Wave wailing.

[Saintaw]

I noticed a post that had someone complaining about the waves being too high in the game. Instead of just screaming 'WHAT A LOAD OF BO****CKS!' ... I found these ...

Imagine trying to get something through the scope lensses with that:

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/19_1183464276_pic18540.jpg

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/19_1183464285_pic23245.jpg

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/19_1183464297_pic25508.jpg

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/19_1183464306_pic28318.jpg

[ReallyDedPoet]

Nice pics:up:, love that water. SH4 storm water is missing that effect. Not just on size of the waves, but look as well.

However in time we will get there, Sober is working on this in another thread :yep:


RDP

[THE_MASK]

This is the best i can come up with atm .
http://rapidshare.com/files/40766612/Sobers__SH4_ver1.2__waves_mod_ver_1.4_for_RFB_ver_ 1.28.rar.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/40766612/Sobers__SH4_ver1.2__waves_mod_ver_1.4_for_RFB_ver_ 1.28.rar.html)

[switch.dota]

@Saintaw

Some of those pictures have been edited for effect. Try to look at thr properties of the original files.

[Saintaw]

switch.dota,

Possibly (Those are from a Bulker in Australia IIRC). They were sent to me, i don't have the originals.

[Mush Martin]

They appear to only be treated for colour and light
those are genuine pacific waves. the kind that kill.
M

[switch.dota]

I hughly doubt the LAST photo is not modified.

[Typhaon]

But why? Ever heared of freakwaves? The waves that flush the crew of big tankers from the bridge? Those waves in the pictures are not even close to the top scale...
But why would you like to have this kind of weather in the game... wouldn't it be disappointing if you chase a large convoy for a day only to see it sinking alone in a storm without any credit for the ships?
And as long as the physics in the game don't support proper movements of the ships and boats in storm, I think it's better the way it is now.

[ReallyDedPoet]

But why? Ever heared of freakwaves? The waves that flush the crew of big tankers from the bridge? Those waves in the pictures are not even close to the top scale...
But why would you like to have this kind of weather in the game... wouldn't it be disappointing if you chase a large convoy for a day only to see it sinking alone in a storm without any credit for the ships?
And as long as the physics in the game don't support proper movements of the ships and boats in storm, I think it's better the way it is now.

It can be frustrating ,the weather, and if the ship physics do not match up and are out of sync with the effects, then that is not good.

But this was modified in SH3, eventually it will be here. In its right state, it adds another element to the game.

RDP

[John Channing]

I hughly doubt the LAST photo is not modified.


Smaller ship, and it was the North Atlantic, but... Been There, Done That.

It's called "Going green fore and aft".

JCC

[SteamWake]

That ship is quite a bit larger than our boats.

If I was the skipper I wouldent spend much time on the surface. :oops:

[SingeDebile]

I hughly doubt the LAST photo is not modified.

im sorry but i can see no reason at all why this would not be a geniune picture.

and as was mentioned before the 'freak waves' or more comonly called "rogue waves" (though not pictured) would and still destroy ships, however not only are they not model'd in the game they are very rare and for our purposes dont need to be included. (what makes them so dangerous is that they are 'seperate' from the other waves and can hit a boat from the side, appearing almost out of nowhere leaving no time to react, turning it over almost instantly... leaving no time for escape etc...)

Whats shown in the pictures are simply very large storm waves, I think that in game we get sort of picky and become annoyed when whe come accross a task force but cannot engage it because of the weather, when in reality this must have been an all too real problem... Think about how low to the water a sub is, combine that with the almost neutral boyancy (compared with a normal boat), a very poor ability to self right itself, and you have something that cannot function very well in serious weather.

this is something we should instead of reacting against take it as part of the experience, often the weather was just plain bad and a sub could not engage under those conditions.

[TheBrauerHour]

Guys just watch an episode of Deadliest Catch...and there is your answer!!!

[edjcox]

Thanks for sharing the images..

All I coud thnk of was the Edmund Fitzgerald and it's collapsing Hatch covers. With that kind of action in shallows seas you could see how she stove in her bottom side on rocks and never knew it till the wave actions further down toward Whitefish allowed the over runs and hatchway collapse. The weakened keel just allowed her to snap in two and she dove deep and green and never came back up....

Amazing the angry sea can get when she's shaking her fists...

:shifty:

[Fearless]

Whats shown in the pictures are simply very large storm waves, I think that in game we get sort of picky and become annoyed when whe come accross a task force but cannot engage it because of the weather, when in reality this must have been an all too real problem... Think about how low to the water a sub is, combine that with the almost neutral boyancy (compared with a normal boat), a very poor ability to self right itself, and you have something that cannot function very well in serious weather.

this is something we should instead of reacting against take it as part of the experience, often the weather was just plain bad and a sub could not engage under those conditions.

Aint that the truth. One of the patrols I did had bad weather for some 44 days.
Lot of opportunities slipped by :damn:

[Jhereg]

Hi all, usually just a lurker....but yes those waves happen IRL. I was in worse than that in the Mediterranean Sea in 1988 onboard USS Bainbridge CGN25. We actually attempted a rescue of two Greeks who were in a sailboat that capsized in a storm with 75 ft seas. The waves were breaking over the bridgewings, and we managed to save one civilian but when another wave went over the bow the second guy had just disappeared. Some really amazing weather, had to buckle up in Sonar on the stacks, as one minute you would be above the stack and the next the stack would be above you:doh:

[Navigator857]

I hughly doubt the LAST photo is not modified.

Actually, that is an average size for waves in the North Atlantic during the winter months. As Jhereg stated it can be pretty much world wide, depending on the local weather, time of year and sea temps. On all 4 of my patrols in the North Atlantic on the Iowa we ran into seas equal to and worse than those shown in the photos. I remember during our task forces' mock invasion cruise of Norway we had one DDG loose two watchmen overboard and four FFG's had to turn around due to almost floundering. I was on the 04 level bridge and watch wave after wave crash over turrets 1 and 2, then smash into the front viewing ports of the bridge. One of our liberty boats was washed overboard and the other one, along with the Captain's Gig where totally thrashed.

There were a few times the entire bow up to turret 1 would submerge, only to slowly rock back up. At 19 years of age I was scared to death. I just knew the ship was gonna break in two, or over-turn. But, we made it. But I can attest that those pictures, specially the last one, do occur regularly.

[ReallyDedPoet]

On all 4 of my patrols in the North Atlantic on the Iowa we ran into seas equal to and worse than those shown in the photos. I remember during our task forces' mock invasion cruise of Norway we had one DDG loose two watchmen overboard and four FFG's had to turn around due to almost floundering. I was on the 04 level bridge and watch wave after wave crash over turrets 1 and 2, then smash into the front viewing ports of the bridge. One of our liberty boats was washed overboard and the other one, along with the Captain's Gig where totally thrashed.

There were a few times the entire bow up to turret 1 would submerge, only to slowly rock back up. At 19 years of age I was scared to death. I just knew the ship was gonna break in two, or over-turn. But, we made it. But I can attest that those pictures, specially the last one, do occur regularly.

Interesting to hear from somebody who has been in through this, thanks for sharing.
A relative of my wife's is retired from the Canadian Navy, it was something to hear him speak about what it was like in heavier waters.

Thanks again.

RDP

[kv29]

crap, those waves are huge :stare:
I can easily imagine my new sub name.... SS "Puke Fest"

[Reaves]

crap, those waves are huge :stare:
I can easily imagine my new sub name.... SS "Puke Fest"
It's only a puke fest when you still have something to puke. I prefer the name "HMAS Dry Reaching" myself. :rotfl:

[StandingCow]

You guys ever watch Deadliest Catch? Some of the waves they have on that show are terrifying.