Deck Gun

[STEED]

Well I tried both stern and bow and I must go for bow on the grounds I'm more use to using it in SH3.

I like to charge at the enemy with my gun on the bow.

[joea]

Bow because I'm "being more aggressive." :arrgh!:

[kv29]

Stern all the way. I almost finished the destabilized deck gun mod. I think the bow gun will pitch and roll BAD. The stern gun being on the center of the ship will be more stable.

[wetwarev7]

Well, I voted both, since I'd rather have both, but since I usually only have the option for one deck gun installed, I allways put it on the stern. It just seems more 'sporting' that way, and it gives pursuing destroyers something else to think about besides catching me. :up:

And I swear I get better gas(battery) milage by not having to push a bow mounted deck gun through the water. Kinda like having the tail gate down on my truck, only different.. :p

[tater]

What kv29 said. Near the center will be more stable when the guns get fixed.

[SteamWake]

Stern,

It has a greater firing arc and some of the boats dont have crew slots for a fore gun.

[UnSalted]

It's much more graceful to chase merchantmen on the surface with the deck gun shredding them as they flee than it would be trying to out-reverse them. :)

I think my best chance against a destroyer on the surface is to run at flank and let them chase me until my stern tubes give them a chance to swallow a nasty old fish. Sushi tastes great and is more filling...with seawater.

[Rockin Robbins]

I have to say bow just because I'm an SH III player and that's what I'm used to. That may change with more experience. I especially like the comments about being nearer the center of rotation of the sub. Being a some-time offshore sailor, I can appreciate the advantages of that and hope to see it become a factor in the game.

[Sailor Steve]

Don't care, as long as it shoots.

Actually, I'm a destroyer kind of guy - two forward, two aft, one in the middle, a few torpedoes, a few depth charges, a very fast ship; you know, stuff like that.

[switch.dota]

Bow, because both my Gato and now my Balao can't accomodate stren gun crew slots.

[TwistedFemur]

How come a fishing boat can swallow 60+ HE hits and not sink?

[switch.dota]

Try using 60 20mm AP rounds from the twin AA gun. Works wonders and if you aim at the engine (big steel-looking thing in the middle) you'll blow it up in no-time flat.

[Ilpalazzo]

I tried to figure out how to get two. I started a career in 45 with gato and there it was. Looks so cool can't wait to try it out.

What other subs and at what times can they have two deck guns? It looks so cool and feels so....manly.

[JSF]

Well, I voted both, since I'd rather have both, but since I usually only have the option for one deck gun installed, I allways put it on the stern. It just seems more 'sporting' that way, and it gives pursuing destroyers something else to think about besides catching me. :up:

And I swear I get better gas(battery) milage by not having to push a bow mounted deck gun through the water. Kinda like having the tail gate down on my truck, only different.. :p

Ditto.....

[STEED]

Don't care, as long as it shoots.

Hats off to that one. :yep:

[Mush Martin]

Both the Ying and the Yang of it.

[V.C. Sniper]

Both. So I can hunt down destroyers on the surface.

[sqk7744]

Bow because I'm "being more aggressive." :arrgh!:
Hey, that has a nice ring to it! :arrgh!:


( Front and Back Guns -gett'em to cross the T )

[Hawk_345]

i dont know how to explain why but i rather the stern.

[kiwi_2005]

On the bow. Anyone get that anoyying AA gun blindside, if you turn the guns your view is blocked:damn: :damn:


This has to be fixed in patch 3 or im disabling AA guns as well! :nope:

[Reaves]

I use bow because the only reason I use a deck gun is when i'm chasing merchants.

If you think stern is good so you can shoot when running away there are two flaws in your plan

1. Be MORE aggressive! Come on you're running away, what type of man are you?

2. If you are going to run away, do it like the sissy you are and run silent and run deep. That's the sissy style like me Captain Reaves. :arrgh!:

[peterloo]

i voted for bow desk gun. Just get used to it as desk gun is in bow for U-boats

[Captain Scribb]

Someone mentioned putting the tailgate down on a truck increases your gas mileage. It doesn't, try it. It creates downward pressure from the air coming off of the roof and down onto the bed. With the gate up, a cyclone is formed in the bed of the truck, thus pushing wind up over the roof and "bubble" of cycloning air in the truck, reducing drag. Mythbusters even did it once.

Just sayin'.

I have gone back and forth, but have settled for the front. It's easier for me to walk my fire onto opposing ships while approaching them. Also, if an enemy freighter has a forward deckgun as they sometimes do, I can just surface in tight right behind them, and blast the bejesus out of them without giving them a shot. A lot harder to do in reverse.

I don't worry about not having one aft for destroyers, because if it has come to that I don't think my one gun against their multiple ones, plus superior speed and agility is going to help. I would be much better off running silent and deep.

[chopped50ford]

if I could put in on the stern, I would prefer that location. The Gato class for some reason wont allow me to switch it from the bow w/ the proper manned locations.

Either way, I like both

[FooFighters]

Definetly bow, I like to attack with the target in front of me.

[magick]

I prefer the deckgun at the stern, because the deckgun is not a attack weapon, normaly it's only used to finish badly damaged targets or as last defence to fire at incoming destroyers after emergency surfacing, at flank speed running away from the destroyer only showing minimum profile ofcourse:)

[FAdmiral]

BOTH. Because I once saw a western movie where a vet gunfighter told
a young wanabe that 2 guns are ALWAYS better than 1....

JIM

[magick]

Nah, Billy the Kid only used 1 gun:)

[Captain_Stabbing]

You gotta think of it from the point of view of the fellers manning your gun too. If you have a crew exposed to the open elements and breaking waves as you go forward, they are gonna be the ones that take the brunt of any waves.
Conversely, if you have them aft, the conning tower will take most of the force of any head sea, and allow them to fire with more accuracy.
As a naval gunner, I vote aft, just on behald of saving my own rear-end

[Captain Scribb]

Wow, that's a pretty good point, Captain Stabbing. I may have to think that over and discuss it with my boys.

[Rockin Robbins]

Conversely, if you have them aft, the conning tower will take most of the force of any head sea, and allow them to fire with more accuracy.
As a naval gunner, I vote aft, just on behald of saving my own rear-end

See? I TOLD you there was a reason real captains liked the aft gun. I just couldn't figure out what it was. Of course once a real life naval gunner says his piece the situation becomes much clearer! Just another thing that isn't modeled in the simulation.

[FAdmiral]

Nah, Billy the Kid only used 1 gun:)

And thats probably why he never grew up to be know as "Billy the Man"


JIM

[tycho102]

Up front.

I prefer to present minimal profile when the shooting starts and the shooting starts while I'm still closing. Stern placement takes quite a bit of manuvering in comparison -- not to mention you have a small window of opportunity if you attempt minimal profile, and a very large cross-section if you turn parallel to fire.

[Sailor Steve]

Nah, Billy the Kid only used 1 gun:)

And thats probably why he never grew up to be know as "Billy the Man"


JIM
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I was going to comment on other real gunfighters who also only carried one gun, but I like yours better.:rock:

[Fleet Snipe]

I read once that one of the WWII skippers, when asked the question "front or rear" replied..."Front. I'm planning on attacking not running away".

I think it might have been Dick O'Kane, but I'm not sure.

[magick]

Nah, Billy the Kid only used 1 gun:)

And thats probably why he never grew up to be know as "Billy the Man"


JIM Don't have a answer on that one:) Excellent:)

[NEON DEON]

I want guns everywhere. The more the better.

If they let me, I would have 5s fore and aft with twin 40s fore and aft on the conn.

Oh wait I forgot. Rocket launchers. Yeah I want rocket launchers too. :cool:

[alunatic]

Maybe a noob question but can you actually have 2 deck guns? And if you can what subs can have 2?

[seafarer]

I want guns everywhere. The more the better.

If they let me, I would have 5s fore and aft with twin 40s fore and aft on the conn.

Oh wait I forgot. Rocket launchers. Yeah I want rocket launchers too. :cool:

Why not twin 8", like the Surcouf? I mean if your going to festoon your boat with guns and create all that drag, at least mount something impressive.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/MuseeMarine-Surcouf-FNFL-p1000460.jpg

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNFR_8-50_m1924_pics.htm

[Seadogs]

Stern just because I must show off my navigational kung-fu to chase an armed merchant and keep his gun masked while keeping my stern unmasked.

[Roger Dodger]

I prefer the Bow Gun because I can't see past the conning tower to the rear. I prefer to look at what I'm shooting at. Annie Oakley I'm not!

Training the Gun Crew on Sampans helps muchly when you go against a real target. Practice, practice and then practice some more. On my 6th Patrol on S-23, my gun crew consists of a Chief and PO1 Gunners Mates, and my bar is all GREEN. During Patrol 5, they sunk two merchants with no assist from torpedoes.

Both earned Bronze Stars!

[Crosseye76]

Both, you can't ever have too many guns !

:arrgh!:

[Charlielima]

4 tubes forward. 1 deck gun forward. It must be an S boat thing. I feel if I have to wreck stuff on my way out or to save my stern, I made a bunch of wrong choices not conducive to boat or crew survival. V/R, CL

[Fishie]

Stern.

In my experience, when using the deck gun it's either to finish off a merchant that's not worth a fish (no real maneuvering needed), or as a total last resort gunfighter in which case I'm running away, shreiking like a little girl, sending some 4" love to try and keep them occupied.

Plus, I can keep an eye on the chasers, and make maneuvers to maximize seperation in the least amount of time.

[DavyJonesFootlocker]

Always the one to have my whole cake I'd go for both. Besides the deckkies I have are less effective than stock. So, two may make up for it.

[jasondef]

Stern. That way I can fire it behind me as emergency propulsion if I run out of fuel.:roll:

[NealT]

Both if I am going to have them.

Neither if I am going to use the sub as it was intended...

[k1l0]

When i use the gun i try to lower my profile (turn towards the target) so it would be easier to miss me, and with a bow mounted gun this is accomplished more effectively.


:hulk:

[Patboot]

Next career, I'm going to lose it in favor of another Bofors.

[Schlippittz]

Stern. Dunno why, I just seem to aim better with it. ;)

[Forsaken]

Front of my sub to desroy mercs i rather save torps for warships and maybe mercs wih guns.