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Oberon
06-27-07, 07:20 AM
http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/gordon-brown-1-2.jpg

So, here we go into the Brown age.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Brown

P_Funk
06-27-07, 07:29 AM
He had said that he intends to strip Number 10 of some the powers conferred on it by royal prerogative (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_prerogative), including the ability to declare war. Giving the parliament more powers and rights to vet and veto appointments to senior public positions in a bid to crack down on cronyism. Me likes the sound of that, especially the whole 'declaration of war' stuff. Thats something that basically prevents one man dragging the country into a stink.

jumpy
06-27-07, 09:00 AM
gah!

thiiiiings! can only get bett... sorry, the same.

Bring on the puns about 'brown noise'.
I can't say I'm pleased, given his track record on squeezing every last little drop of cash out of everyone that he could as chancellor of the exchequer, I'm expecting the same attitude as pm. I think what he did regarding taxing pensions was despicable; so on the whole I'm expecting everything to get alot more expensive across the board. From council tax to income tax and god help you if you drive a car.
That's just the money stuff.

I anticipate the same pc pandering fluff his predecessor was so bloody keen on, the steady erosion of liberty where it becomes more and more commonplace to have the law assume guilt and the onus will be transferred to the individual thereafter to prove their innocence instead of the law having to build a successful case against the individual to prove guilt. All this and more; diabolical mishandling of the nhs, endless comities peopled by magazine cut-outs who have no clearer perspective on reality than a jar of olives, deciding how the rest of us should live and pay taxes, more of that 'give to criminals' with laws that are a pointlessly ineffective result of knee jerk politics 'to be seen to be doing something about it' spin.

sickening business as usual then, for nu-labour. :down:


As we all know never ever ever believe the crap that politicians spout at 'the beginning' (of anything) because they never deliver on what they promise and in some cases opt for the complete u-turn effect once they are nicely settled into their new political digs.

Konovalov
06-27-07, 09:26 AM
The two words that the now Prime Minister Brown has kept using over the last few days including his speech in front of No.10 this afternoon have been "new" and "change". Do you get the feeling that Brown is trying to distance himself and the Labour Party from the Tony Blair legacy? :hmm:

The Avon Lady
06-27-07, 09:37 AM
Haven't handled a code brown alert for several years now. :nope:

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/4569/32132086323451e1239gl8.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32132086323451e1239gl8.jpg)

Oberon
06-27-07, 09:48 AM
Lol, you read my mind AL ;)

It's quite amusing, because at this current point in time....the UK doesn't have a government...does that mean we're in a state of anarchy?

QUICK!! Where's STEED?!!! :cool:

Prime Minister, First Lord of the Treasury and Minister for the Civil Service
The Rt Hon Gordon Brown MP (http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page12037.asp)
Deputy Prime Minister and First Secretary of State

To be confirmed

Chancellor of the Exchequer

To be confirmed

Leader of the House of Commons, Lords Reform and Party Funding

To be confirmed

Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs

To be confirmed

Secretary of State for Trade and Industry

To be confirmed

Secretary of State for the Home Department

To be confirmed

Secretary of State for Health

To be confirmed

Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport

To be confirmed

Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, and Secretary of State for Wales

To be confirmed

Leader of the House of Lords and Lord President of the Council

To be confirmed

Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice

To be confirmed

Secretary of State for International Development

To be confirmed

Secretary of State for Education and Skills

To be confirmed

Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government

To be confirmed

Secretary of State for Work and Pensions

To be confirmed

Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

To be confirmed

Secretary of State for Defence

To be confirmed

Secretary of State for Transport and Secretary of State for Scotland

To be confirmed

Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury and Chief Whip

To be confirmed

Chief Secretary to the Treasury

To be confirmed

Penelope_Grey
06-27-07, 09:52 AM
He had said that he intends to strip Number 10 of some the powers conferred on it by royal prerogative (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_prerogative), including the ability to declare war. Giving the parliament more powers and rights to vet and veto appointments to senior public positions in a bid to crack down on cronyism. Me likes the sound of that, especially the whole 'declaration of war' stuff. Thats something that basically prevents one man dragging the country into a stink.
I have to say its a very clever trick, even had me fooled for a second.

Not that it makes a big deal, because Tony Blair never actually declared war on anybody. Just engaged in "military actions" there is a big difference... apparantly...

HunterICX
06-27-07, 10:30 AM
Haven't handled a code brown alert for several years now. :nope:

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/4569/32132086323451e1239gl8.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32132086323451e1239gl8.jpg)

:dead: good grief, I just fell my lunch going up my throat...

The Avon Lady
06-27-07, 10:56 AM
Haven't handled a code brown alert for several years now. :nope:

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/4569/32132086323451e1239gl8.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32132086323451e1239gl8.jpg)
:dead: good grief, I just fell my lunch going up my throat...
Neh! These things don't make me bat an eyelid. :nope:

robbo180265
06-27-07, 12:57 PM
I have to say that I nearly lost my lunch too!

And the baby photo was pretty bad as well;)

bookworm_020
06-27-07, 06:12 PM
So instead of a white out, the U.K. will now have a Brown out???:hmm:

EDIT: Moderators may want to move this post to the bad joke thread...:rotfl:

robbo180265
06-27-07, 06:23 PM
So instead of a white out, the U.K. will now have a Brown out???:hmm:

EDIT: Moderators may want to move this post to the bad joke thread...:rotfl:

Or the "horrible reality of at least another year of this lot, thread" (God,I used to be a labour supporter too):down:

Tchocky
06-27-07, 09:09 PM
Actually, Brown's economic record is fairly solid, an independent Bank Of England now makes interest rate changes apolitical.
I'm cautiously optimistic, the big neighbour over the water ought to be stable. Much of the criticism I've seen is misplaced feelings towards Blair, an "oh-they're-all-the-same" argument. Politicians are not all the same. They can be as bad as each other, but in different ways.

lesrae
06-28-07, 12:15 AM
No better than the last one, no worse than the next (imho).

At least this one's a Jock :yep:

P_Funk
06-28-07, 03:10 AM
Not that it makes a big deal, because Tony Blair never actually declared war on anybody. Just engaged in "military actions" there is a big difference... apparantly... Its a subtle difference thats made it possible for the USA to not have actually been at war since WW2... officially. That the propoganda machines always spout "war" and even the politicians seems to make people forget how NOT at war they legally are.

I'm not sure though. Korea might or might not have been delcared. I heard it wasn't recently. I'll do some checking.

KevinB
06-28-07, 03:35 AM
Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

robbo180265
06-28-07, 04:05 AM
Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

Love that song - as true then as it is now;)

DAB
06-28-07, 06:15 AM
Not that it makes a big deal, because Tony Blair never actually declared war on anybody. Just engaged in "military actions" there is a big difference... apparantly... Its a subtle difference thats made it possible for the USA to not have actually been at war since WW2... officially. That the propoganda machines always spout "war" and even the politicians seems to make people forget how NOT at war they legally are.

I'm not sure though. Korea might or might not have been delcared. I heard it wasn't recently. I'll do some checking.

No war has been declared since 1939. War was declaired abhorrent and illegal by the United Nations which stated that actions in self defence are the only legitimate form of armed action. Since then, the world has been at peace :cool:

So, Korea and the 1991 Gulf War come under acts of collective security

The Falklands becomes the 1982 South Atlantic Crisis (The official UK name)

The 2003 Gulf War becomes an Act of Self Defence

And Vietnam... ...never happened.

robbo180265
06-28-07, 01:57 PM
Not that it makes a big deal, because Tony Blair never actually declared war on anybody. Just engaged in "military actions" there is a big difference... apparantly... Its a subtle difference thats made it possible for the USA to not have actually been at war since WW2... officially. That the propoganda machines always spout "war" and even the politicians seems to make people forget how NOT at war they legally are.

I'm not sure though. Korea might or might not have been delcared. I heard it wasn't recently. I'll do some checking.

No war has been declared since 1939. War was declaired abhorrent and illegal by the United Nations which stated that actions in self defence are the only legitimate form of armed action. Since then, the world has been at peace :cool:

So, Korea and the 1991 Gulf War come under acts of collective security

The Falklands becomes the 1982 South Atlantic Crisis (The official UK name)

The 2003 Gulf War becomes an Act of Self Defence

And Vietnam... ...never happened.

Ahhh, history written by the victors - isn't it lovely;)

P_Funk
06-28-07, 04:51 PM
No war has been declared since 1939. War was declaired abhorrent and illegal by the United Nations which stated that actions in self defence are the only legitimate form of armed action. Since then, the world has been at peace :cool:
Love your wit.:up:

The Avon Lady
07-01-07, 04:29 AM
:ping: Code Double Brown (http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/?p=1567) :ping:

Addendum (http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/?p=1568).

U-533
07-01-07, 05:20 AM
Well I hope the best for you folks over there.

Browns or no.