GWX AI has Eagle Eyes!!

[TwistedFemur]

Ok September 9, 1939 come across a HUGE convoy sailing west at 9Knts in sector BE61. The southernmost escort is just visible to me check the UZO and it give me a range of around 11.5 KM's its a hazy day around 10am so turn west and order flank to get ahead of the convoy next thing I see is splashes :doh: WTF that escort SAW ME and is now charging hard, he had to have saw me because i didnt think they had radar in 1939 let alone flower class corvettes

Am I incorrect about the radar? or does GWX have eagle eyed escorts?

[Packerton]

Tell me about it.

I was at 20 meters (no sign of my sub above water periscope was fully down) on my first patrol in 1939 on my new Career.

I got a merchant contact moveing slow, Moved to intercept then came up to periscope depth to launch my attack.....when I raised my scope the merchant was already in THE MIDDLE OF EVASIVE ACTION :damn:

I never figured out how he detected me.

Whether was Calm by the way so my con tower wasent sticking up.

[red_one]

Your bosun's been doing some drum practice on the pressure hull. That's how they found you.

[Reece]

Whilst moving your periscope leaves a wake, what I do is move within a few kilometers go silent, stop, wait a half minute, raise scope just out of water, get relative information, mark down details then lower scope to consider my options, I always try to make a 90 degree approach ahead of the convoy!:yep:

[Penelope_Grey]

No but if you check the manual they did have long range scopes used specifically for spotting U-Boats. In fact, the ships the U-Boats hunted, had better spotting capabilities, in day time, than the U-boat did, so it would seem.

At night however, its a different story... if it were me, Id have stayed under all day, following their general route on the map. Then at night, I'd have been up to the surface and at least 2 ships would be going to the bottom. That's how ya do it.:up:

[Canovaro]

Penelope is a very patient kaleuness :yep:

[Reece]

Frauline kaleuness ... I say nothing else incase I'm demoted and end up a crew member on U-101!!!:oops::lol:

[Dimitrius07]

Frauline kaleuness ... I say nothing else incase I'm demoted and end up a crew member on U-101!!!:oops::lol:

:hmm: :rotfl:

Now lets back to the topic

It depends on what mod you use - my recomendation is a 16 kilometer visibiliti mod, your watch crew will detect ships and air threats more effective and realistic eather.
In some situation especially when you have a lite or medium fog - you need to be carefulle and check visuall contact for your self, especially when you run the game in time compression
(P.S. My personal recomendation is to not run compresion higher that 128)
And offcorse - make shure you have two WE officers on board - also very important ;)

[Nichren]

Long time lurker first time poster...

What's the name of the 16KM visibility mod? I'm always getting jumped on by destroyers...I've only gone on three patrols with GWX however.

[SmokinTep]

It's part of GWX. I use it and don't seem to have the problem of being detected early.

[java`s revenge]

In the past i have downloaded a file (i am at work and don`t know the
name now) from a forum. That were the sensors altered into more realistic.

It stays dangerous to near convoys etc but now i can live with it.

I think sometimes that the gwx developer have looked the movi Das Boot
too much.

But GWX is a great mod but i use some other sensors.

[TwistedFemur]

Your bosun's been doing some drum practice on the pressure hull. That's how they found you.

Normally I would agree with you but ....I was surfaced

[TwistedFemur]

After reading all your posts I will install the 16km mod :ping:

[Penelope_Grey]

if you check the manual they did have long range scopes used specifically for spotting U-Boats. In fact, the ships the U-Boats hunted, had better spotting capabilities, in day time, than the U-boat did, so it would seem.

Also since you were going ahead flank you would have been splashing a bit too which would help them spot you.

[Dimitrius07]

if you check the manual they did have long range scopes used specifically for spotting U-Boats. In fact, the ships the U-Boats hunted, had better spotting capabilities, in day time, than the U-boat did, so it would seem.

Also since you were going ahead flank you would have been splashing a bit too which would help them spot you.

true:yep:, remember that before a night surface convoy attack :ping: :arrgh!:

[gg.]

I think GWX is great, but sometimes i really don't understand how escorts detect me (at night especially or at sunset or dawn when i'm in the dark side of the horizon!)

[Swooth]

I think GWX is great, but sometimes i really don't understand how escorts detect me (at night especially or at sunset or dawn when i'm in the dark side of the horizon!)

Perhaps they were out looking for a wonderful sunrise, only to see something moving in the water to ruin their precious sight and declare to get even. Something to think about :hmm:

I can't say I've really had the eagle eyes thing happen to me, except once. I had a merchant visual, so I started the chase and dived under and stalked it for awhile. After I believed I had a well enough attack route set up, I raised the periscope up a bit only to see it in evasive action. I fired anyway, and I missed. So all the way to my patrol grid I was a tad bit bitter about that, but on the way back I found two ships of more value, and I got em. So it all worked out, really. Though I really would've liked that ship.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Long time lurker first time poster...

What's the name of the 16KM visibility mod? I'm always getting jumped on by destroyers...I've only gone on three patrols with GWX however.

Welcome:up: long-time lurker :o, I mean Nichren

Good Hunting:up:

RDP

[joea]

In the past i have downloaded a file (i am at work and don`t know the
name now) from a forum. That were the sensors altered into more realistic.

It stays dangerous to near convoys etc but now i can live with it.

I think sometimes that the gwx developer have looked the movi Das Boot
too much.

But GWX is a great mod but i use some other sensors.

More realistic according to who? :roll:

[sunvalleyslim]

[quote=Nichren]Long time lurker first time poster...
Welcome aboard Nichren,
HEY, sometimes we're going to be seen, maybe by a jumpy lookout that thought he saw something. There's soo many eyes on that ship compared to your lookouts and officer. S__T is going to happen. If I could sneak in everytime, what fun would that be. I personally haven't been detected every time by an Escort. But there have been times when I thought all was well, only to have to crash dive and evade to escape. To me it's much more rewarding to escape death sometimes than to rack up 100,000 tons every patrol. To be able to go home, get my crew some awards, see the family, Fatherland, and go on another patrol is reward enough.............IMO

[Kpt. Lehmann]

From the GWX manual page 29::arrgh!: GWX has big peepers!:o

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