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SUBMAN1
06-25-07, 10:47 PM
Posted: November 20, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern


The other day I was reading Newsweek magazine and came across some poll data I found rather hard to believe. It must be true given the source, right? The same magazine that employs Michael (Qurans in the toilets at Gitmo) Isikoff. Here I promised myself this week I would be nice and I start off in this way. Oh what a mean man I am. The Newsweek poll alleges that 67 percent of Americans are unhappy with the direction the country is headed and 69 percent of the country is unhappy with the performance of the president. In essence 2/3s of the citizenry just ain't happy and want a change.

So being the knuckle dragger I am, I starting thinking, ''What we are so unhappy about?''

Is it that we have electricity and running water 24 hours a day, 7 days a week? Is our unhappiness the result of having air conditioning in the summer and heating in the winter? Could it be that 95.4 percent of these unhappy folks have a job? Maybe it is the ability to walk into a grocery store at any time and see more food in moments than Darfur has seen in the last year?

Maybe it is the ability to drive from the Pacific Ocean to the Atlantic Ocean without having to present identification papers as we move through each state? Or possibly the hundreds of clean and safe motels we would find along the way that can provide temporary shelter? I guess having thousands of restaurants with varying cuisine from around the world is just not good enough. Or could it be that when we wreck our car, emergency workers show up and provide services to help all involved. Whether you are rich or poor they treat your wounds and even, if necessary, send a helicopter to take you to the hospital.

Perhaps you are one of the 70 percent of Americans who own a home, you may be upset with knowing that in the unfortunate case of having a fire, a group of trained firefighters will appear in moments and use top notch equipment to extinguish the flames thus saving you, your family and your belongings. Or if, while at home watching one of your many flat screen TVs, a burglar or prowler intrudes; an officer equipped with a gun and a bullet-proof vest will come to defend you and your family against attack or loss. This all in the backdrop of a neighborhood free of bombs or militias raping and pillaging the residents. Neighborhoods where 90 percent of teenagers own cell phones and computers.

How about the complete religious, social and political freedoms we enjoy that are the envy of everyone in the world? Maybe that is what has 67 percent of you folks unhappy.

Fact is, we are the largest group of ungrateful, spoiled brats the world has ever seen. No wonder the world loves the U.S. yet has a great disdain for its citizens. They see us for what we are. The most blessed people in the world who do nothing but complain about what we don't have and what we hate about the country instead of thanking the good Lord we live here.

I know, I know. What about the president who took us into war and has no plan to get us out? The president who has a measly 31 percent approval rating? Is this the same president who guided the nation in the dark days after 9/11? The president that cut taxes to bring an economy out of recession? Could this be the same guy who has been called every name in the book for succeeding in keeping all the spoiled brats safe from terrorist attacks? The commander in chief of an all-volunteer army that is out there defending you and me?

Make no mistake about it. The troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have volunteered to serve, and in many cases have died for your freedom. There is currently no draft in this country. They didn't have to go. They are able to refuse to go and end up with either a ''general'' discharge, an ''other than honorable'' discharge or, worst case scenario, a ''dishonorable'' discharge after a few days in the brig.

So why then the flat out discontentment in the minds of 69 percent of Americans? Say what you want but I blame it on the media. If it bleeds it leads and they specialize in bad news. Everybody will watch a car crash with blood and guts. How many will watch kids selling lemonade at the corner? The media knows this and media outlets are for-profit corporations. They offer what sells. Just ask why they are going to allow a murderer like O.J. Simpson to write a book and do a TV special about how he didn't kill his wife but if he did … insane!

Stop buying the negative venom you are fed everyday by the media. Shut off the TV, burn Newsweek, and use the New York Times for the bottom of your bird cage. Then start being grateful for all we have as a country. There is exponentially more good than bad.
I close with one of my favorite quotes from B.C. Forbes in 1953:''What have Americans to be thankful for? More than any other people on the earth, we enjoy complete religious freedom, political freedom, social freedom. Our liberties are sacredly safeguarded by the Constitution of the United States, 'the most wonderful work ever struck off at a given time by the brain and purpose of man.' Yes, we Americans of today have been bequeathed a noble heritage. Let us pray that we may hand it down unsullied to our children and theirs.''I suggest this Thanksgiving we sit back and count our blessings for all we have. If we don't, what we have will be taken away. Then we will have to explain to future generations why we squandered such blessing and abundance. If we are not careful this generation will be known as the ''greediest and most ungrateful generation.'' A far cry from the proud Americans of the ''greatest generation'' who left us an untarnished legacy.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53028

Reaves
06-25-07, 11:27 PM
I think this could apply to most countries citizens. :yep:

waste gate
06-25-07, 11:33 PM
Kind of puts our lives into perspective, doesn't it?

SUBMAN1
06-25-07, 11:46 PM
Kind of puts our lives into perspective, doesn't it?

You might say that. You, living in America are probably in the top 2% of the richest people in the world, including if you are simply middle class. If you have a 6 digit household income, you are in the top 0.2% or even better of the entire world population. So why is it that we are complaining exactly? We have everything already. There is no more. You may not have a Ferrari in the driveway, but by no means, nothing is stopping you from getting one if you put your mind to it. So what exactly is the problem?

I like to tell myself this when I see someone that has more than me. When you analyze it, they really don't have much more than me unless they are Bill Gates, but even he doesn't spend as much money as one would think.

-S

waste gate
06-25-07, 11:51 PM
Kind of puts our lives into perspective, doesn't it?

You might say that. You, living in America are probably in the top 2% of the richest people in the world, including if you are simply middle class. If you have a 6 digit household income, you are in the top 0.2% or even better of the entire world population. So why is it that we are complaining exactly? We have everything already. There is no more. You may not have a Ferrari in the driveway, but by no means, nothing is stopping you from getting one if you put your mind to it. So what exactly is the problem?

I like to tell myself this when I see someone that has more than me. When you analyze it, they really don't have much more than me unless they are Bill Gates, but even he doesn't spend as much money as one would think.

-S


I try to go with this:

If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain and bitter;
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
-Desiderata

Reaves
06-25-07, 11:55 PM
No matter how much you have you will always want more. It's human nature.

You become accustomed to your living conditions and as a human you are always thinking (even subconsciously) "How can my life be easier?" "How could my life be better?" It's how we became what we are, it's the journey to infinity and beyond.


-couldn't help the last line.

waste gate
06-25-07, 11:57 PM
No matter how much you have you will always want more. It's human nature.

You become accustomed to your living conditions and as a human you are always thinking (even subconsciously) "How can my life be easier?" "How could my life be better?" It's how we became what we are, it's the journey to infinity and beyond.


-couldn't help the last line.

Unless of course you live under a Marxist regime. In which case no matter what you do or how hard you work to achieve your dream your lot is set for the good of the common cause.

From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.
-Karl Marx

Reaves
06-26-07, 12:10 AM
Unless of course you live under a Marxist regime. In which case no matter what you do or how hard you work to achieve your dream your lot is set for the good of the common cause.

From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.
-Karl Marx

That way of thinking would be great in a perfect world, the only problem? We're pretty far away from a perfect world. On the other hand those regimes can actually work better in areas with low population and extreme living conditions, but that's a discussion for another thread. ;)

August
06-26-07, 12:43 AM
From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.
-Karl Marx

But I really do need a Ferrari! :D

The Avon Lady
06-26-07, 12:51 AM
I think this could apply to most countries citizens. :yep:
Go figure (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1181570268507)! :hmm:

Reaves
06-26-07, 01:51 AM
I think this could apply to most countries citizens. :yep: Go figure (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1181570268507)! :hmm:

Interesting article, maybe you just get more vitamin D from the sun there.

The Avon Lady
06-26-07, 01:58 AM
I think this could apply to most countries citizens. :yep: Go figure (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1181570268507)! :hmm:

Interesting article, maybe you just get more vitamin D from the sun there.
10AM and it's already 30 celcius, going up to 35. :sunny:

I'll be indoors all day. :yep:

P_Funk
06-26-07, 02:28 AM
No matter how much you have you will always want more. It's human nature.

You become accustomed to your living conditions and as a human you are always thinking (even subconsciously) "How can my life be easier?" "How could my life be better?" It's how we became what we are, it's the journey to infinity and beyond.


-couldn't help the last line. I find it ironic that people would be so critical of the nature of American society when it seems that its a perfect example of the nature of capitalism. More more more! Surely that reality isn't lost on all you folks.

Personally I think the public must always complain since we have a duty to look out for society. As citizens we need to be responsible for our collective future. That, if I am not incorrect, is the principle of Democracy. But if its just bitching about how middle class life in the 'burbs isn't good enough then those people really can go suck a railroad spike.

U-533
06-26-07, 04:40 AM
True to true.
We Americans have more to be thankful for than most countries...
But... We have forgotten how to be thankful. and most importantly who to be thankful to.

:sunny: :sunny: :sunny: :sunny: :sunny:

Reaves
06-26-07, 05:01 AM
No matter how much you have you will always want more. It's human nature.

You become accustomed to your living conditions and as a human you are always thinking (even subconsciously) "How can my life be easier?" "How could my life be better?" It's how we became what we are, it's the journey to infinity and beyond.


-couldn't help the last line. I find it ironic that people would be so critical of the nature of American society when it seems that its a perfect example of the nature of capitalism. More more more! Surely that reality isn't lost on all you folks.

Personally I think the public must always complain since we have a duty to look out for society. As citizens we need to be responsible for our collective future. That, if I am not incorrect, is the principle of Democracy. But if its just bitching about how middle class life in the 'burbs isn't good enough then those people really can go suck a railroad spike.


Sorry about correcting you but....

I think this could apply to most countries citizens. :yep:

I wasn't talking about America... It was a comment about the nature of human beings. It sums up our strive for new technologies. We are constantly seeking an easier way to do things, better ways to stay alive... human nature...

The Avon Lady
06-26-07, 05:23 AM
I wasn't too spoiled when growing up.

Certainly not like this (http://www.monkeydooz.net/). :o

Reaves
06-26-07, 05:25 AM
I wasn't too spoiled when growing up.

Certainly not like this (http://www.monkeydooz.net/). :o


The horror... the horror

Letum
06-26-07, 05:36 AM
67 percent of Americans are unhappy with their country?

GREAT!

That means 67 percent of Americans want to improve their country!


America is a prosperous country, but you would be burying your head in the sand* if you thought it had no faults. The only way a nation can become great is when people are unhappy with something and they change that something!

I am unhappy with many, many aspects of the UK. That doesn't mean I am not proud of the good things we have or that I take them for granted.

In 1642 the people of England where amongst the richest in the world and enjoyed a high standard of living for the time, but they still wanted to have a greater nation and from that discontentment sprang the first Parliamentary Democracy.

In Short: Being unhappy with the things that are wrong is the first step to improvement in any case.


* i.e."use the New York Times for the bottom of your bird cage"

P_Funk
06-26-07, 05:42 AM
Sorry about correcting you but....

I think this could apply to most countries citizens. :yep:
I wasn't talking about America... It was a comment about the nature of human beings. It sums up our strive for new technologies. We are constantly seeking an easier way to do things, better ways to stay alive... human nature...
Feel free to correct anytime. Though I wasn't entirely replying to you so much as using your point as a reference to the original article, specific to the US.

Human progress is indeed continuous. What is a luxery today is an essential tomorrow. I think that if you don't complain about the worse parts of your country then you really aren't very aware of how things are. All the good that we enjoy is always at risk of being lost or diminished by a few bad decisions at the top of the ladder.

And of course that counts for all of the world.;)

The Avon Lady
06-26-07, 05:52 AM
* i.e."use the New York Times for the bottom of your bird cage"Ooooooooh nooooooooooooooo! Don't do that! Those pages might be collector's items at the rate things are going (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/06/nyt_print_advertising_decline.html).

Tchocky
06-26-07, 07:17 AM
I stopped reading that when kids set up lemonade stalls.

Seems like a variation on angry-man standup comedy. "There are too many kinds of coffee these days" etc etc.

There's a lot in there I find funny or disagreeable.
Whether you are rich or poor they treat your wounds and even, if necessary, send a helicopter to take you to the hospital.
Heart rate? - Normal
Blood pressure? - Dropping fast
Credit card? - Maxed out!

Yeah, it's once you get to the hospital that the fun starts.
And...surely electricity and running water aren't Bush Administration initiatives?
Those troops defending your freedoms from people who want to fight each other in a country thousands of miles away...and the Tiger Defense Rock argument...why doesn't the news reeport on all the planes that didn't crash....amber waves of grain....just like mother used to make..


ah, ne'ermind

kiwi_2005
06-26-07, 07:37 AM
How can people in this country be happy when Iran (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1181570268507#) is going nuclear and threatening to wipe them off the map? How can they be happy when the Palestinians are firing rockets every day at civilians in Sderot? How can they be happy when nothing they try - not peace negotiations, not unilateral withdrawal, not military force - brings them security? How can they be happy when the peace process with the Palestinians gives new meaning to the word "dead," while the hope for a peace process with Syria is dying fast? How can they be happy when the IDF failed to win the war against Hizbullah? How can Israelis be happy when their political leaders seem to be a collection of crooks, incompetents, sex criminals and/or retreads?

To people who don't live in Israel (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1181570268507#), this is a mystery. A lot of Israelis probably can't figure it out, either.
Thats easy. One word. God.

You gotta walk through the valley of death to get to paradise so all this turmoil is worth it at the end.


Thats why they're happy! Thats why every God fearing nation is happy:yep:

The Avon Lady
06-26-07, 07:46 AM
Thats why they're happy! Thats why every God fearing nation is happy:yep:
I would not at all describe the Israel of today as a G-d fearing nation. :nope:

kiwi_2005
06-26-07, 08:12 AM
Thats why they're happy! Thats why every God fearing nation is happy:yep: I would not at all describe the Israel of today as a G-d fearing nation. :nope:
I'll refraze that. God fearing nations or nations that believe in the bibical God seem to have confidence that the mightly one will make everything right. So theirs no need to worry, be happy and rejoice when you can.

And whats wrong with that!:lol:

Jimbuna
06-26-07, 08:14 AM
I'd have thought they were more fearful of those immediately across from their borders right now! :hmm:

The Avon Lady
06-26-07, 08:46 AM
Thats why they're happy! Thats why every God fearing nation is happy:yep: I would not at all describe the Israel of today as a G-d fearing nation. :nope:
I'll refraze that. God fearing nations or nations that believe in the bibical God seem to have confidence that the mightly one will make everything right. So theirs no need to worry, be happy and rejoice when you can.

And whats wrong with that!:lol:
It is a false hope. Need I point out to you numerous historical calamities that befell my people, when they thought that they had a free ticket to ride?

kiwi_2005
06-26-07, 09:10 AM
Thats why they're happy! Thats why every God fearing nation is happy:yep: I would not at all describe the Israel of today as a G-d fearing nation. :nope:
I'll refraze that. God fearing nations or nations that believe in the bibical God seem to have confidence that the mightly one will make everything right. So theirs no need to worry, be happy and rejoice when you can.

And whats wrong with that!:lol: It is a false hope. Need I point out to you numerous historical calamities that befell my people, when they thought that they had a free ticket to ride?

But isn't it better to have hope than to have none at all? What were seeing here is hope all around the world, Christian nations are been attacked, yet they still stand firm. Without hope your giving up. Without faith your nothing... And surely Avon you can't tell me you dont have hope or faith that one day it will be better for your ppl and christians alike.
When American & British went to war during WW2 with their allies close behind, the war was won not only on milatary strength but on faith in the almighty.

And who won...:)

Tchocky
06-26-07, 09:15 AM
Wasn't "Gott mitt uns" a German motto?

"Without faith you're nothing" - disagree..

XLjedi
06-26-07, 09:20 AM
Wasn't "Gott mitt uns" a German motto?

"Without faith you're nothing" - disagree..

Cool... and I believe it could also be directly translatted as: "Are your hands cold?"

Tchocky
06-26-07, 09:23 AM
You caught me :)

"God is with us" - there we go. I'll try not to regurgitate half-remembered fragments of a language I don't speak :)

The Avon Lady
06-26-07, 09:28 AM
Thats why they're happy! Thats why every God fearing nation is happy:yep: I would not at all describe the Israel of today as a G-d fearing nation. :nope:
I'll refraze that. God fearing nations or nations that believe in the bibical God seem to have confidence that the mightly one will make everything right. So theirs no need to worry, be happy and rejoice when you can.

And whats wrong with that!:lol: It is a false hope. Need I point out to you numerous historical calamities that befell my people, when they thought that they had a free ticket to ride?

But isn't it better to have hope than to have none at all?
1. You have to be hoping for the right thing.
2. As General Tommy Franks said (and was in my sig until recently): "Hope is not a strategy." :nope:
What were seeing here is hope all around the world, Christian nations are been attacked, yet they still stand firm.
What planet are you on? Christians are suffering throughout the Mideast and Africa and Eurabia is slowly being devoured.

http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/3198/dscf0035ssz6.jpg
Without hope your giving up.
No argument. The problem is false hope.
Without faith your nothing... And surely Avon you can't tell me you dont have hope or faith that one day it will be better for your ppl and christians alike.
One day is one thing. Wish it were tomorrow but if it isn't, there's plenty that needs fixin' until then.
When American & British went to war during WW2 with their allies close behind, the war was won not only on milatary strength but on faith in the almighty.
No arguments.
And who won...:)
Psalm 92:

1. A song with musical accompaniment for the Sabbath day.
2. It is good to give thanks to the Lord, and to sing to Your name, O Most High.
3. To declare in the morning Your kindness and Your faith at night.
4. Upon a ten-stringed harp and upon a psaltery, with speech upon a harp.
5. For You have made me happy O Lord, with Your work; with the work of Your hands I shall exult.
6. How great are Your works, O Lord! Your thoughts are very deep.
7. A boorish man does not know; neither does a fool understand this.
8. When the wicked flourish like grass, and all workers of violence blossom, only to be destroyed to eternity.
9. But You remain on high forever, O Lord.
10. For behold Your enemies, O Lord, for behold Your enemies will perish; all workers of violence will scatter.
11. But You have raised my horn like that of a wild ox; to soak me with fresh oil.
12. My eye has gazed upon those who stare at me [with envy]; when evildoers rise up against me, my ears hear [them].
13. The righteous one flourishes like the palm; as a cedar in Lebanon he grows.
14. Planted in the house of the Lord, in the courts of our God they will flourish.
15. They will yet grow in old age; fat and fresh will they be.
16. To declare that the Lord is upright, my rock in Whom there is no injustice.

Heibges
06-26-07, 10:46 AM
I think this could apply to most countries citizens. :yep:
Go figure (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1181570268507)! :hmm:


As the saying goes, "you only have to worry about soldiers when they stop complaining."

Letum
06-26-07, 10:53 AM
Thats why they're happy! Thats why every God fearing nation is happy:yep: I would not at all describe the Israel of today as a G-d fearing nation. :nope:
I'll refraze that. God fearing nations or nations that believe in the bibical God seem to have confidence that the mightly one will make everything right. So theirs no need to worry, be happy and rejoice when you can.

And whats wrong with that!:lol:
Thats bang on the definition of "opiate of the people". Do I have to explain what is wrong with that? :nope:

Heibges
06-26-07, 12:21 PM
Posted: November 20, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern


The other day I was reading Newsweek magazine and came across some poll data I found rather hard to believe. It must be true given the source, right? The same magazine that employs Michael (Qurans in the toilets at Gitmo) Isikoff. Here I promised myself this week I would be nice and I start off in this way. Oh what a mean man I am. The Newsweek poll alleges that 67 percent of Americans are unhappy with the direction the country is headed and 69 percent of the country is unhappy with the performance of the president. In essence 2/3s of the citizenry just ain't happy and want a change.

So being the knuckle dragger I am, I starting thinking, ''What we are so unhappy about?''

Is it that we have electricity and running water 24 hours a day, 7 days a week? Is our unhappiness the result of having air conditioning in the summer and heating in the winter? Could it be that 95.4 percent of these unhappy folks have a job? Maybe it is the ability to walk into a grocery store at any time and see more food in moments than Darfur has seen in the last year?

Maybe it is the ability to drive from the Pacific Ocean to the Atlantic Ocean without having to present identification papers as we move through each state? Or possibly the hundreds of clean and safe motels we would find along the way that can provide temporary shelter? I guess having thousands of restaurants with varying cuisine from around the world is just not good enough. Or could it be that when we wreck our car, emergency workers show up and provide services to help all involved. Whether you are rich or poor they treat your wounds and even, if necessary, send a helicopter to take you to the hospital.

Perhaps you are one of the 70 percent of Americans who own a home, you may be upset with knowing that in the unfortunate case of having a fire, a group of trained firefighters will appear in moments and use top notch equipment to extinguish the flames thus saving you, your family and your belongings. Or if, while at home watching one of your many flat screen TVs, a burglar or prowler intrudes; an officer equipped with a gun and a bullet-proof vest will come to defend you and your family against attack or loss. This all in the backdrop of a neighborhood free of bombs or militias raping and pillaging the residents. Neighborhoods where 90 percent of teenagers own cell phones and computers.

How about the complete religious, social and political freedoms we enjoy that are the envy of everyone in the world? Maybe that is what has 67 percent of you folks unhappy.

Fact is, we are the largest group of ungrateful, spoiled brats the world has ever seen. No wonder the world loves the U.S. yet has a great disdain for its citizens. They see us for what we are. The most blessed people in the world who do nothing but complain about what we don't have and what we hate about the country instead of thanking the good Lord we live here.

I know, I know. What about the president who took us into war and has no plan to get us out? The president who has a measly 31 percent approval rating? Is this the same president who guided the nation in the dark days after 9/11? The president that cut taxes to bring an economy out of recession? Could this be the same guy who has been called every name in the book for succeeding in keeping all the spoiled brats safe from terrorist attacks? The commander in chief of an all-volunteer army that is out there defending you and me?

Make no mistake about it. The troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have volunteered to serve, and in many cases have died for your freedom. There is currently no draft in this country. They didn't have to go. They are able to refuse to go and end up with either a ''general'' discharge, an ''other than honorable'' discharge or, worst case scenario, a ''dishonorable'' discharge after a few days in the brig.

So why then the flat out discontentment in the minds of 69 percent of Americans? Say what you want but I blame it on the media. If it bleeds it leads and they specialize in bad news. Everybody will watch a car crash with blood and guts. How many will watch kids selling lemonade at the corner? The media knows this and media outlets are for-profit corporations. They offer what sells. Just ask why they are going to allow a murderer like O.J. Simpson to write a book and do a TV special about how he didn't kill his wife but if he did … insane!

Stop buying the negative venom you are fed everyday by the media. Shut off the TV, burn Newsweek, and use the New York Times for the bottom of your bird cage. Then start being grateful for all we have as a country. There is exponentially more good than bad.

I close with one of my favorite quotes from B.C. Forbes in 1953:''What have Americans to be thankful for? More than any other people on the earth, we enjoy complete religious freedom, political freedom, social freedom. Our liberties are sacredly safeguarded by the Constitution of the United States, 'the most wonderful work ever struck off at a given time by the brain and purpose of man.' Yes, we Americans of today have been bequeathed a noble heritage. Let us pray that we may hand it down unsullied to our children and theirs.''I suggest this Thanksgiving we sit back and count our blessings for all we have. If we don't, what we have will be taken away. Then we will have to explain to future generations why we squandered such blessing and abundance. If we are not careful this generation will be known as the ''greediest and most ungrateful generation.'' A far cry from the proud Americans of the ''greatest generation'' who left us an untarnished legacy.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53028

The obesity rate in America pretty much makes it all perfectly clear.

And the Baby Boomers are as worthless as any later generation, so this guy seems a little sanctimonious to me.

My parents were both members of the Greatest Generation, so although they were old when I was born, I feel extremely blessed to have had them as parents.

Takeda Shingen
06-26-07, 01:14 PM
We're back on topic. Let's keep it there. We have plenty of Middle East threads on this forum for the rest.

Thanks,
The Management

bradclark1
06-26-07, 02:17 PM
What an idiotic pinhead article!
There, that about covers my thoughts on that drivel.

FIREWALL
06-26-07, 02:54 PM
Posted: November 20, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern


The other day I was reading Newsweek magazine and came across some poll data I found rather hard to believe. It must be true given the source, right? The same magazine that employs Michael (Qurans in the toilets at Gitmo) Isikoff. Here I promised myself this week I would be nice and I start off in this way. Oh what a mean man I am. The Newsweek poll alleges that 67 percent of Americans are unhappy with the direction the country is headed and 69 percent of the country is unhappy with the performance of the president. In essence 2/3s of the citizenry just ain't happy and want a change.

So being the knuckle dragger I am, I starting thinking, ''What we are so unhappy about?''

Is it that we have electricity and running water 24 hours a day, 7 days a week? Is our unhappiness the result of having air conditioning in the summer and heating in the winter? Could it be that 95.4 percent of these unhappy folks have a job? Maybe it is the ability to walk into a grocery store at any time and see more food in moments than Darfur has seen in the last year?

Maybe it is the ability to drive from the Pacific Ocean to the Atlantic Ocean without having to present identification papers as we move through each state? Or possibly the hundreds of clean and safe motels we would find along the way that can provide temporary shelter? I guess having thousands of restaurants with varying cuisine from around the world is just not good enough. Or could it be that when we wreck our car, emergency workers show up and provide services to help all involved. Whether you are rich or poor they treat your wounds and even, if necessary, send a helicopter to take you to the hospital.

Perhaps you are one of the 70 percent of Americans who own a home, you may be upset with knowing that in the unfortunate case of having a fire, a group of trained firefighters will appear in moments and use top notch equipment to extinguish the flames thus saving you, your family and your belongings. Or if, while at home watching one of your many flat screen TVs, a burglar or prowler intrudes; an officer equipped with a gun and a bullet-proof vest will come to defend you and your family against attack or loss. This all in the backdrop of a neighborhood free of bombs or militias raping and pillaging the residents. Neighborhoods where 90 percent of teenagers own cell phones and computers.

How about the complete religious, social and political freedoms we enjoy that are the envy of everyone in the world? Maybe that is what has 67 percent of you folks unhappy.

Fact is, we are the largest group of ungrateful, spoiled brats the world has ever seen. No wonder the world loves the U.S. yet has a great disdain for its citizens. They see us for what we are. The most blessed people in the world who do nothing but complain about what we don't have and what we hate about the country instead of thanking the good Lord we live here.

I know, I know. What about the president who took us into war and has no plan to get us out? The president who has a measly 31 percent approval rating? Is this the same president who guided the nation in the dark days after 9/11? The president that cut taxes to bring an economy out of recession? Could this be the same guy who has been called every name in the book for succeeding in keeping all the spoiled brats safe from terrorist attacks? The commander in chief of an all-volunteer army that is out there defending you and me?

Make no mistake about it. The troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have volunteered to serve, and in many cases have died for your freedom. There is currently no draft in this country. They didn't have to go. They are able to refuse to go and end up with either a ''general'' discharge, an ''other than honorable'' discharge or, worst case scenario, a ''dishonorable'' discharge after a few days in the brig.

So why then the flat out discontentment in the minds of 69 percent of Americans? Say what you want but I blame it on the media. If it bleeds it leads and they specialize in bad news. Everybody will watch a car crash with blood and guts. How many will watch kids selling lemonade at the corner? The media knows this and media outlets are for-profit corporations. They offer what sells. Just ask why they are going to allow a murderer like O.J. Simpson to write a book and do a TV special about how he didn't kill his wife but if he did … insane!

Stop buying the negative venom you are fed everyday by the media. Shut off the TV, burn Newsweek, and use the New York Times for the bottom of your bird cage. Then start being grateful for all we have as a country. There is exponentially more good than bad.

I close with one of my favorite quotes from B.C. Forbes in 1953:''What have Americans to be thankful for? More than any other people on the earth, we enjoy complete religious freedom, political freedom, social freedom. Our liberties are sacredly safeguarded by the Constitution of the United States, 'the most wonderful work ever struck off at a given time by the brain and purpose of man.' Yes, we Americans of today have been bequeathed a noble heritage. Let us pray that we may hand it down unsullied to our children and theirs.''I suggest this Thanksgiving we sit back and count our blessings for all we have. If we don't, what we have will be taken away. Then we will have to explain to future generations why we squandered such blessing and abundance. If we are not careful this generation will be known as the ''greediest and most ungrateful generation.'' A far cry from the proud Americans of the ''greatest generation'' who left us an untarnished legacy.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53028

Great Post.:up: :up: :up: I'm makeing a copy of this and putting it on my wall and take a copy to my local V.F.W. and distribute it among my friends. You will of course be shown as author.

The Avon Lady
06-26-07, 03:05 PM
What an idiotic pinhead article!
There, that about covers my thoughts on that drivel.
Why?

Tchocky
06-26-07, 03:16 PM
How about the complete religious, social and political freedoms we enjoy that are the envy of everyone in the world?
No, not everyone. Get off the horse.

The Avon Lady
06-26-07, 03:17 PM
How about the complete religious, social and political freedoms we enjoy that are the envy of everyone in the world?
No, not everyone. Get off the horse.
How about the unlimited horseback riding potentials?

Tchocky
06-26-07, 03:18 PM
This is the whole country, not just Kentucky.

And it's statements like that one that get my back up, American exceptionalism is unnecessary and unhelpful.

yankee-V
06-26-07, 05:38 PM
Hey! Leave Kentucky out of this....

Several versions of this message or something similar have been circulating on the net for a while. One of them credited to Jay Leno.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/hitnail.asp

Heibges
06-26-07, 05:47 PM
Thats why they're happy! Thats why every God fearing nation is happy:yep: I would not at all describe the Israel of today as a G-d fearing nation. :nope:
I'll refraze that. God fearing nations or nations that believe in the bibical God seem to have confidence that the mightly one will make everything right. So theirs no need to worry, be happy and rejoice when you can.

And whats wrong with that!:lol:
It is a false hope. Need I point out to you numerous historical calamities that befell my people, when they thought that they had a free ticket to ride?

Probably everyone has at one time or another. The French have certainly paid for their belief in "the Man on the White Horse".

bradclark1
06-26-07, 07:59 PM
What an idiotic pinhead article!
There, that about covers my thoughts on that drivel.
Why?
Why bother trying to improve, we have everything.
We have the perfect president because he happened to be in office during 9/11? ...................Massive Edit!...............................

Fact is, we are the largest group of ungrateful, spoiled brats the world has ever seen.
I honestly agree there.

I have heavily edited this because I think most are sick of threads sinking into a political firefight. Lets just say I disagree with some of his reasoning.

Heibges
06-26-07, 08:50 PM
What an idiotic pinhead article!
There, that about covers my thoughts on that drivel.
Why?
Why bother trying to improve, we have everything.
We have the perfect president because he happened to be in office during 9/11? ...................Massive Edit!...............................

Fact is, we are the largest group of ungrateful, spoiled brats the world has ever seen.
I honestly agree there.

I have heavily edited this because I think most are sick of threads sinking into a political firefight. Lets just say I disagree with some of his reasoning.

I agree with you Brad, because most of the lame arguments this guy made, were also made to validate he Nazi's and Hitler. Everybody had a job, the trains ran on time, protecting us from the evil-doers (in the Nazi case Communists, Homosexuals, Slavs, Jews, Gypsies, and Catholics), etc etc etc.