View Full Version : US aircraft carriers are too small to be important
Skybird
06-16-07, 06:42 PM
Gotcha!
The carriers are on top, you can see them when using a magnifying glass :p
http://www.scifiscoundrels.com/images/comparison.gif
elite_hunter_sh3
06-16-07, 06:55 PM
STAR WARS EXECUTOR CLASS :rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock:
Biggles
06-16-07, 07:07 PM
Bwahaha! In yer face U.S Navy! (wonder how small a U-boat is compared to the Super Star Destroyer....)
AntEater
06-16-07, 07:29 PM
I fail to recognize half of the spaceships in that poster.
Does that mean I failed the nerd test???
:huh:
Heibges
06-16-07, 07:35 PM
I fail to recognize half of the spaceships in that poster.
Does that mean I failed the nerd test???
:huh:
Nope, half confirms your Nerd Status.:lol:
"Apololgy accepted Captain Needa"
Biggles
06-16-07, 07:43 PM
You identified half of them?
Impressive......most impressive....
Bwahaha! In yer face U.S Navy! (wonder how small a U-boat is compared to the Super Star Destroyer....)
Put it this way, if one flew into the Star Destroyers windshield it wouldn't even pit it.
ASWnut101
06-16-07, 08:06 PM
I fail to recognize half of the spaceships in that poster.
Does that mean I failed the nerd test???
:huh:
Nope, half confirms your Nerd Status.:lol:
"Apololgy accepted Captain Needa"
:rotfl:
I don't see the Vorlon planet destroyer on that...I have that 3d model. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sarZ4ZuOX80
Lagger123987
06-17-07, 12:20 AM
STAR WARS :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
Onkel Neal
06-17-07, 09:33 AM
Gotcha!
The carriers are on top, you can see them when using a magnifying glass :p
http://www.scifiscoundrels.com/images/comparison.gif
Hah hah, but the carriers would make great bullets for the guns of some of those ships :sunny:
Godalmighty83
06-17-07, 09:49 AM
sci-fi has always suffered from scaling issues. usually windows.
[showing geek]
the big starwars ships are shown in movies with windows with people behind; for the sizes given to fit the average storm trooper must be about 50 foot tall.
the same issue pops up with enterprise, we often see the captain staring out of his little window while the camera zooms away, following scale his cabin takes up about a 5th of the ship. which probably only has room for about 12 people on board.
Steel_Tomb
06-17-07, 10:19 AM
They didn't include Galactica!!!?? I'm disapointed :nope:, even a Cylon base star would've been cool.
Skybird
06-17-07, 10:46 AM
They didn't include Galactica!!!?? I'm disapointed :nope:, even a Cylon base star would've been cool.
its there.
Bwahaha! In yer face U.S Navy! (wonder how small a U-boat is compared to the Super Star Destroyer....)
VIIC u-boat is 67.1 metres long, and so would be 6.71 pixels on that image. It would be a little bigger than the space shuttle at the top.
Biggles
06-17-07, 11:33 AM
hoho...imagine if a german sub would encounter the Executor lovely name btw).
-Bernard, any targets in sight?
-Uhh....you'd better check for yourself captain....
-Aha! Executor class spotted load tube 1 and 2!
-Eh, captain, the Executor class is about 17484 meters long and has more firepower than the entire U.S fleet....
-You're right....load 3 and 4 while you're at it!:arrgh!:
SUBMAN1
06-17-07, 11:49 AM
sci-fi has always suffered from scaling issues. usually windows.
[showing geek]
the big starwars ships are shown in movies with windows with people behind; for the sizes given to fit the average storm trooper must be about 50 foot tall.
the same issue pops up with enterprise, we often see the captain staring out of his little window while the camera zooms away, following scale his cabin takes up about a 5th of the ship. which probably only has room for about 12 people on board.
Yeah, they used to do this when they only had to work with models. Expect real scale people from now on due to CGI taking over the role of the models. CGI will scale everything appropriately.
-S
SUBMAN1
06-17-07, 11:52 AM
Where is the ultimate spaceship? I do not see the Death Star on this page! It would probably take up the whole page and then some though.
-S
They didn't include Galactica!!!?? I'm disapointed :nope:, even a Cylon base star would've been cool. its there.
Yeah, but only the old 70s version.
Theres no Roger Young either... or the gould ships from Stargate
What about the independence day saucers? and that vacuum cleaner ship from Spaceballs...
Biggles
06-17-07, 12:51 PM
Where is the ultimate spaceship? I do not see the Death Star on this page! It would probably take up the whole page and then some though.
-S
The Death Star is a Space station:roll: (or a small moon:lol: )
Where is the ultimate spaceship? I do not see the Death Star on this page! It would probably take up the whole page and then some though.
-S
The Death Star is a Space station:roll: (or a small moon:lol: )
nope, definitely not a small moon, but a space station, Ben said so :yep:
darius359au
06-17-07, 06:08 PM
Theres one kick butt ship they forgot - The Serenity ,Firefly class for the win :up::up::p
If you look at the star trek ships they seem a bit more realistic compared to the US Aircraft carriers then say those star wars/babylon 5 ships... :p
Biggles
06-18-07, 04:41 AM
Yeah, but you know, size really matters!:p
Steel_Tomb
06-18-07, 08:02 AM
Theres one kick butt ship they forgot - The Serenity ,Firefly class for the win :up::up::p
Damn right, I found the BSG ships, thought they were bigger than that lol. Shame they didn't include the ships from firefly, see how an alliance cruiser would shape up to galactica :p
Size doesn't matter ;)
Take the size of that Executor...then compare it to the Krenim Imperium Temporal Incursion ship (hint, it's to the left of the Borg Cubes).
1550 meters vs 17484 meters....hardly a match, you'd think.
But...when that same tiny Krenim ship goes back in time and wipes out the founding planet of the Galactic Empire before they'd even reached space flight....then you realise just how much size matters ;)
Size doesn't matter ;)
Take the size of that Executor...then compare it to the Krenim Imperium Temporal Incursion ship (hint, it's to the left of the Borg Cubes).
1550 meters vs 17484 meters....hardly a match, you'd think.
But...when that same tiny Krenim ship goes back in time and wipes out the founding planet of the Galactic Empire before they'd even reached space flight....then you realise just how much size matters ;)
Yep! And don't forget the tiny spacecraft that killed the Death Stars :D
Steel_Tomb
06-18-07, 11:27 AM
Size doesn't matter ;)
Take the size of that Executor...then compare it to the Krenim Imperium Temporal Incursion ship (hint, it's to the left of the Borg Cubes).
1550 meters vs 17484 meters....hardly a match, you'd think.
But...when that same tiny Krenim ship goes back in time and wipes out the founding planet of the Galactic Empire before they'd even reached space flight....then you realise just how much size matters ;)
Yep! And don't forget the tiny spacecraft that killed the Death Stars :D
You would be refering to the X-wings :up:
(My avatar - WTF?! lol)
Hey all you modelbuilders
what would you say if you could get the "Galactic Empire Executor Class" in scale 1:32 ??
Markus
Size doesn't matter ;)
Take the size of that Executor...then compare it to the Krenim Imperium Temporal Incursion ship (hint, it's to the left of the Borg Cubes).
1550 meters vs 17484 meters....hardly a match, you'd think.
But...when that same tiny Krenim ship goes back in time and wipes out the founding planet of the Galactic Empire before they'd even reached space flight....then you realise just how much size matters ;)
Yep! And don't forget the tiny spacecraft that killed the Death Stars :D
You would be refering to the X-wings :up:
(My avatar - WTF?! lol)
X-Wings, the Millenium Falcon, and the A-Wing that smashed into Executor's bridge and sent it spiraling into the Death Star II :rock:
ASWnut101
06-18-07, 01:24 PM
Hey all you modelbuilders
what would you say if you could get the "Galactic Empire Executor Class" in scale 1:32 ??
Markus
I want one. :D
I'll hang it on my roof (to the displeasure of the Homeowners Association) and have big neon lights pointing to it!
Biggles
06-18-07, 01:44 PM
Hey all you modelbuilders
what would you say if you could get the "Galactic Empire Executor Class" in scale 1:32 ??
Markus
I want one. :D
I'll hang it on my roof (to the displeasure of the Homeowners Association) and have big neon lights pointing to it!
If you'd do that in the night, it would probably attract attention to all airplanes in the vicinity thinking your house is Atlanta Airport......(you live in Georgia, don't you?)
SUBMAN1
06-18-07, 02:16 PM
Where is the ultimate spaceship? I do not see the Death Star on this page! It would probably take up the whole page and then some though.
-S
The Death Star is a Space station:roll: (or a small moon:lol: )
nope, definitely not a small moon, but a space station, Ben said so :yep:
Well now, both of you are getting a bit technical, but let me lay this down on you (my turn to get technical) - the Death Star not only moves, but has to be able to go light speed so that it can pop into its current favorite star system and blow away the planets! Mr. Obiwan Kenobi - got it partially correct, it was not a small moon, but he screwed up when he called it a space staion! This is a moving tactical ship we are dealing with here, not something that can't move and is stationary.
On top of this, I see space stations also listed on this poster! So there! :p
-S
Hey all you modelbuilders
what would you say if you could get the "Galactic Empire Executor Class" in scale 1:32 ??
Markus
I want one. :D
I'll hang it on my roof (to the displeasure of the Homeowners Association) and have big neon lights pointing to it!
You better have a huge house... a 1/32 scale Executor would still be over 500 metres long! :D :D :D
TLAM Strike
06-18-07, 02:41 PM
Size doesn't matter ;)
Take the size of that Executor...then compare it to the Krenim Imperium Temporal Incursion ship (hint, it's to the left of the Borg Cubes).
1550 meters vs 17484 meters....hardly a match, you'd think.
But...when that same tiny Krenim ship goes back in time and wipes out the founding planet of the Galactic Empire before they'd even reached space flight....then you realise just how much size matters ;)
Yep! And don't forget the tiny spacecraft that killed the Death Stars :D
You would be refering to the X-wings :up:
(My avatar - WTF?! lol)
X-Wings, the Millenium Falcon, and the A-Wing that smashed into Executor's bridge and sent it spiraling into the Death Star II :rock:
Don't forget the Y-Wings- The workhorse of the Rebel Fleet! :arrgh!:
Theres one kick butt ship they forgot - The Serenity ,Firefly class for the win :up::up::p
"Its just Serenity." To quote Inara, Not The Serenity! :damn: :p
AntEater
06-18-07, 03:16 PM
Just started watching Firefly, which will probably never be aired in Germany (RTL has the rights but doesnt do anything about it).
So I got the DVD.
Best SciFi for a long time, even better than the new BSG (barely).
On the other hand, I've always been a Joss Whedon fan so I wasnt suprised it turned out so well.
Sailor Steve
06-18-07, 05:22 PM
Just started watching Firefly, which will probably never be aired in Germany (RTL has the rights but doesnt do anything about it).
So I got the DVD.
Best SciFi for a long time, even better than the new BSG (barely).
On the other hand, I've always been a Joss Whedon fan so I wasnt suprised it turned out so well.
Welcome to the world of the Browncoats!:rock:
Biggles
06-18-07, 07:14 PM
Where is the ultimate spaceship? I do not see the Death Star on this page! It would probably take up the whole page and then some though.
-S
The Death Star is a Space station:roll: (or a small moon:lol: )
nope, definitely not a small moon, but a space station, Ben said so :yep:
Well now, both of you are getting a bit technical, but let me lay this down on you (my turn to get technical) - the Death Star not only moves, but has to be able to go light speed so that it can pop into its current favorite star system and blow away the planets! Mr. Obiwan Kenobi - got it partially correct, it was not a small moon, but he screwed up when he called it a space staion! This is a moving tactical ship we are dealing with here, not something that can't move and is stationary.
On top of this, I see space stations also listed on this poster! So there! :p
-S
Now light speed eh? they actually say hyper space in Star Wars (at most occasions at least). And logically, it has to go faster than the light, 'cause the speed of light isn't nearly fast enough to be the way they travel in Star Wars. For example: It takes the light from the nearest stars to our planet (except "Sol" or "Sun", our own star) Proxima Centauri 4,2 years to reach Earth. And that is our closest stars. The Galaxy far far away has to be very small or packed together if the inhabitants are able to travel between solarsystems within a couple of hours at a speed of 299 792 458 meters per second. I find that very unlikely, so my guess is that either:
1. They use a speed metric system that is different than ours (which they actually do when I come to think of it, Parsek as they call it) OR they use the same, but means something different.
2. The physical laws doesn't quite work the same in Galaxy X (name unknown). There is actually some proofs that this might be the case (sound in space, explosions in space, working lightsabers, laser beams that is visible for the human eye).
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