CTD circoumstances

[Ansirial]

I've done many searches in the forum regarding the CTD causes, especially after last convoy encounter when the most dangerous trap were not sleepy japs destroyers but many and many :damn: CTDs.

So I didn't have an exact idea of what can cause a CTD in SH4.

Es.
-Event camera + periscope
-External views
-Torps hits
-Specific sounds or events

I don't know.

I think that would be useful report CTD circoumstances... in that manner, grouping most common causes, maybe some problems will be resolved easly.

If you want, we can report sensations and feelings about the CTD circoumstances.

[SteamWake]

Maybe in the buglist thread stickied at the top of the forums ?

Sorry I cant help you much as I havent had many CTD's. Maybe 2 or three and one of those was intentional.

The others were caused by virus protection deciding it was a good time to update.

[CCIP]

I think all the crashes for which there were known/documented reasons have by now been patched. The only remaining one I know of is a general memory overload which dumps you out of the game, but that happens very rarely and usually if you have something running in the background.

In my observation, anyway.

[AVGWarhawk]

Lets start with you specs on the computer. Also a thought here, drop the event camera. Your asking the computer to generate a lot with torps exploding.

[FIREWALL]

Lets start with you specs on the computer. Also a thought here, drop the event camera. Your asking the computer to generate a lot with torps exploding.

Once again AVGWarhawk YOU BEAT ME TO IT. :D

I've had no dtds unless I brought it on myself after patches and the mods and advice made available.

After reading all the posts on this suject i've come to the conclusion it's mostly 2 things that cause CTD'S.

1. Low computer specs. Can hardly play SH-3.

2. The User themselves. They don't do a little research and read the excellent advice on the forum. They just jump in then post they were robbed.

Example: one new member posted "patch what patch they put out a patch". When ? But said he was an old hand at SH-3 :huh:

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[GTHammer]

The reasons/circumstances for your CTD's are EXACTLY the ones I originally encountered. Now I shut off all extra programs including explorer.exe when I run SH4 AND have set my graphics to the lowest settings. No more crashes...for me anyways.

Only other change I've made was removing the "Die slowly" mod b/c part of it added more visuals(secondary explosions and that sort).

[SteamWake]

drop the event camera.

It just covers up the darn TDC anyhow.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Had maybe 2-3 of these, one I know was me, one the infamous " a " key early on. Anyway, it has not been an issue.

RDP

[Lt. Cobra]

Lets start with you specs on the computer. Also a thought here, drop the event camera. Your asking the computer to generate a lot with torps exploding.
Once again AVGWarhawk YOU BEAT ME TO IT. :D

I've had no dtds unless I brought it on myself after patches and the mods and advice made available.

After reading all the posts on this suject i've come to the conclusion it's mostly 2 things that cause CTD'S.

1. Low computer specs. Can hardly play SH-3.

2. The User themselves. They don't do a little research and read the excellent advice on the forum. They just jump in then post they were robbed.

Example: one new member posted "patch what patch they put out a patch". When ? But said he was an old hand at SH-3 :huh:

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:I can imagine that more people are having CTDs than are even reporting here but are afraid of posting for fear of being bashed everytime by those more fortunate persons that do not have this problem. I think it is more that the game engine needs to be optimized rather than it being “dumb users” of the product. Please give those of us who are having this problem a break. This is the only game that I have ever experienced this with and I have games that require more system specs than SH4 does. :yep:

[SteamWake]

Look, I have no question that some users have issues with crashes.

But in the long run it is usually due to some pesky little thing like sound drivers, not enough ram, or even power supplies.

The program itself is pretty solid.

Im not 'bashing' anyone with problems. In fact Id like to help them if I can.

But sometimes folks just dont want help they would rather just place blame on everything but themselves.

(edit; cant type worth a damn)

[Canonicus]

Well....I just spent over 5g's for Alienware super computer SPECIFICALLY to play SH4.....and I get CTD after CTD after CTD...so on and so forth.....you know the drill!

So... I KNOW its not the hardware....Its the GAME....period.

I pray the next patch will fix or make stable..... the unstable, unfinished, unrefined...or whatever you want to call it.....GD game engine.

As much as I love this Sim....I can't fully enjoy my skippering if I constantly have to worry about when the next *******ing CTD might happen.

[Lt. Cobra]

Well....I just spent over 5g's for Alienware super computer SPECIFICALLY to play SH4.....and I get CTD after CTD after CTD...so on and so forth.....you know the drill!

So... I KNOW its not the hardware....Its the GAME....period.

I pray the next patch will fix or make stable..... the unstable, unfinished, unrefined...or whatever you want to call it.....GD game engine.

As much as I love this Sim....I can't fully enjoy my skippering if I constantly have to worry about when the next *******ing CTD might happen.There you go! :yep:

[Lt. Cobra]

Look, I have no question that some users have issues with crashes.

But in the long run it is usually due to some pesky little thing like sound drivers, not enough ram, or even power supplies.

The program itself is pretty solid.

Im not 'bashing' anyone with problems. In fact Id like to help them if I can.

But sometimes folks just dont want help they would rather just place blame on everything but themselves.

(edit; cant type worth a damn)Hi, Steam Wake!

I don’t deny that many of these CTDs could be fixed on the player’s end. I, however, don’t have any of these problems with other games that even require more than this game does. I’m just saying that just because many are not having the problem that others are having does not mean that it is always the user’s fault. I appreciate the help that has been given to me over this great forum but my game will still not run. I blame UBI SOFT as it is clear that they released a game that is full of problems. :nope:

[Canonicus]

Look, I have no question that some users have issues with crashes.

But in the long run it is usually due to some pesky little thing like sound drivers, not enough ram, or even power supplies.

The program itself is pretty solid.

Im not 'bashing' anyone with problems. In fact Id like to help them if I can.

But sometimes folks just dont want help they would rather just place blame on everything but themselves.

(edit; cant type worth a damn)Hi, Steam Wake!

I don’t deny that many of these CTDs could be fixed on the player’s end. I, however, don’t have any of these problems with other games that even require more than this game does. I’m just saying that just because many are not having the problem that others are having does not mean that it is always the user’s fault. I appreciate the help that has been given to me over this great forum but my game will still not run. I blame UBI SOFT as it is clear that they released a game that is full of problems. :nope:


There you go!...back at ya mate! :up:

[SteamWake]

Well....I just spent over 5g's for Alienware super computer SPECIFICALLY to play SH4.....and I get CTD after CTD after CTD...so on and so forth.....you know the drill!

So... I KNOW its not the hardware....Its the GAME....period.

I pray the next patch will fix or make stable..... the unstable, unfinished, unrefined...or whatever you want to call it.....GD game engine.

As much as I love this Sim....I can't fully enjoy my skippering if I constantly have to worry about when the next *******ing CTD might happen.

I was saying.

Wait a minute Ill bet you two have something in common.

Vista.

[Canonicus]

Nope.......XP ( w /SP2)
Vista's not quite ready yet...kinda like SH4 :yep:

BTW....I have 20 other games on this computer and not one....I repeat...not ONE.... has ever had a CTD..

Only SH4.....

So,like Forrest Gump,...."Thats all I've got to say..about that"

[Lt. Cobra]

Well....I just spent over 5g's for Alienware super computer SPECIFICALLY to play SH4.....and I get CTD after CTD after CTD...so on and so forth.....you know the drill!

So... I KNOW its not the hardware....Its the GAME....period.

I pray the next patch will fix or make stable..... the unstable, unfinished, unrefined...or whatever you want to call it.....GD game engine.

As much as I love this Sim....I can't fully enjoy my skippering if I constantly have to worry about when the next *******ing CTD might happen.
I was saying.

Wait a minute Ill bet you two have something in common.

Vista.Nope! I use Windows XP Home Edition. Thanks anyway though… ;)

[crapgame]

Well....I just spent over 5g's for Alienware super computer SPECIFICALLY to play SH4.....and I get CTD after CTD after CTD...so on and so forth.....you know the drill!

So... I KNOW its not the hardware....Its the GAME....period.

I pray the next patch will fix or make stable..... the unstable, unfinished, unrefined...or whatever you want to call it.....GD game engine.

As much as I love this Sim....I can't fully enjoy my skippering if I constantly have to worry about when the next *******ing CTD might happen.

I was saying.

Wait a minute Ill bet you two have something in common.

Vista.

I am running vista and have never had a crash. Go figure.

[Lt. Cobra]

BTW....I have 20 other games on this computer and not one....I repeat...not ONE.... has ever had a CTD..

Only SH4.....

So,like Forrest Gump,...."Thats all I've got to say..about that":rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[AVGWarhawk]

Well....I just spent over 5g's for Alienware super computer SPECIFICALLY to play SH4.....and I get CTD after CTD after CTD...so on and so forth.....you know the drill!



Not to be funny, I spent $650.00 two years ago on a off the shelf Emachine at Best Buy. Dropped in 1 stick of 512 RAM to make it 1 gig total. Dropped in a $150.00 for a ATI X1300. I have had 3 CTD with this game. But, no CTD with any other games I play. Someone weeks ago stated the game is not optimized. I not sure how that works but at this moment anything is plausible.

Reading this forum everyday I would say the top of the list for CTD is usually a soundcard problem. Some have reduced the acceleration on the soundcard and this usually stops the CTD. Just food for thought.;)

[THE_MASK]

The only CTD i have had was when on the surface i had a radar contact and went to 1024TC , lost contact ,went to 1024TC , regained contact , went to 1024TC and lost contact then went to bridge view , pressed the esc key then save then CTD .

[ReallyDedPoet]

Well....I just spent over 5g's for Alienware super computer SPECIFICALLY to play SH4.....and I get CTD after CTD after CTD...so on and so forth.....you know the drill!


Not to be funny, I spent $650.00 two years ago on a off the shelf Emachine at Best Buy. Dropped in 1 stick of 512 RAM to make it 1 gig total. Dropped in a $150.00 for a ATI X1300. I have had 3 CTD with this game. But, no CTD with any other games I play. Someone weeks ago stated the game is not optimized. I not sure how that works but at this moment anything is plausible.

Reading this forum everyday I would say the top of the list for CTD is usually a soundcard problem. Some have reduced the acceleration on the soundcard and this usually stops the CTD. Just food for thought.;)

emachines are rated fairly high, low base price, can be upgraded, etc. I built a half decent system for about 850.00 Canadian recently, lots of upgrade room down the road as well :yep:

There was a poll as far as CTD awhile back, I was surprised to see that it was split about 50\50 as far as people who were experiencing CTD and those who were not.
As mentioned, I have had about 2-3 with lots of gameplay.

RDP

[SteamWake]

Alienware is owned by Dell now :hmm:

[AkbarGulag]

Running an old rig...

Windows XP pro
875P Abit IC7-Max3
P4 2.8ghz (running 3.5ghz)
1gig Corsair
old 9800XT raedeon

Play it with all sliders turned up, but all the special tick box options off. Disabled Music.

Only played since patch 1.2.

No. of CTD's: 3

All CTD's were from buggy saves, im picking from saving in the periscope view. Aside from that the game has been flawless.

[AVGWarhawk]

emachines are rated fairly high, low base price, can be upgraded, etc. I built a half decent system for about 850.00 Canadian recently, lots of upgrade room down the road as well :yep:

All I have ever owned is emachines. I like them.


One thing is for sure, we can not put our finger on what is causing the CTD. It seems to be wide and varied from system to system.

[ReallyDedPoet]

This is a strange one:hmm:, did not think it was happening that much, then saw the old poll.

RDP

[cappy70]

Hi

Not one CTD here, I don't know why if you ask me.

Though, run 'jw16 Power Tools' and/or Ace Utility and/or Free RegistryFix and you'll be "scared" what can be running in the background and what can cause CTD's / "slugg" a PC down, like a "broken link" can cause applications to crash for example, or even recent downloaded files or something in POST that drags along, there are hundreds of options for a CTD :D.

[crapgame]

I am running vista and have never had a crash. Go figure.

I realy jinxed myself with that post. The game suddenly crashing like crazy. I am doing a clean install, as I suspect a corrupted file.

[AVGWarhawk]

I am running vista and have never had a crash. Go figure.
I realy jinxed myself with that post. The game suddenly crashing like crazy. I am doing a clean install, as I suspect a corrupted file.


It was bad mojo:shifty:

[orangenee]

I am running vista and have never had a crash. Go figure.
I realy jinxed myself with that post. The game suddenly crashing like crazy. I am doing a clean install, as I suspect a corrupted file.

It's called Karmic retribution, it hits hard when you get cocky.

[crapgame]

I am running vista and have never had a crash. Go figure.
I realy jinxed myself with that post. The game suddenly crashing like crazy. I am doing a clean install, as I suspect a corrupted file.

It's called Karmic retribution, it hits hard when you get cocky.

My thoughts exactly. :o

[cappy70]

,,ooopss. I should say,,"yet" no CTD's..:)

I try to keep my registry very clean and i.e. I run the cleaning programs on daily basis and clean every "corner" of the it ,i.e. backupfiles/junkfiles(temp)/registry/history/cookies/prefetch/ and so on. The less amount of icons down in the right corner of the screen,,the better.....

I don't know if this can help,,but I have not seen a SBOD, "Sudden Blue Screen Of Death" since I started doing this...and yes,, the soundcard can mess things up though, needs it's own special treatment in the OS, sometimes.

[Ansirial]

there are many variables... I thought we can relate CTDs frequency
to the career lenght;
to different hw (especially video cards) or maybe different drivers too

Maybe in the reports these things could be useful, very interesting are some full detailed reports, next time I will play (so to the next sure CTD) I'll report all.

[SteamWake]

there are many variables... I thought we can relate CTDs frequency
to the career lenght;
to different hw (especially video cards) or maybe different drivers too

Maybe in the reports these things could be useful, very interesting are some full detailed reports, next time I will play (so to the next sure CTD) I'll report all.

Ive had some rather lengthy carriers with at least 8 missions per patrol and at 3rd patrol. No CTD's. Pretty damn long load times though.