FYI: New signature rules

[Gizzmoe]

Hi! Here are the new rules regarding signatures.

The maximum allowed size for signature images is 400x120, the signature filesize must not exceed 100kB (under 50kB is preffered), and the whole signature must not be higher than 150 pixels. Animated sigs are allowed.

If you are unsure if your signature is within those limits, please post a message here and a moderator will check it, or use the below examples for comparison.

If your current signature is only 20% wider and/or 10% higher than allowed you don´t need to change it.

This is an example of a 400x120 signature:
http://home.arcor.de/gizzmoe/400x120.jpg

This is a signature that´s about 150 pixels high:

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http://home.arcor.de/gizzmoe/400x120.jpg
Text 1
Text 2

[The Avon Lady]

What about me, boss?

[Gizzmoe]

What about me, boss?
137kB in total, please find a smaller annoying GIF! ;)

[elite_hunter_sh3]

o comeone... now its being reduced more?????? :nope::nope::nope::nope:

edit: wait i jumped to conclusions.. saw the 20%/10% rule... nvm... :D

[Gizzmoe]

o comeone... now its being reduced more?????? :nope::nope::nope::nope:

edit: wait i jumped to conclusions.. saw the 20%/10% rule... nvm... :D

You´ve missed the "filesize must not exceed 100kB" part. Your signature is 2.2MB.

[Letum]

mmm...I have ad-blocked almost all animated Sigs apart from those little flags. Too distracting.

Which is a shame as I find Sig's very useful for remembering who people are.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

mehh 2.2mb isnt that big...:arrgh!:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

p.s why was it lowered again????:shifty:

[Letum]

mehh 2.2mb isnt that big...:arrgh!:


Many people, especially in the UK, pay for the Internet per kb transferred.
That means that several sigs that size is going to start costing them.

Other people in remote areas (including my self until recently) operate 56k modems. 2.2mb will take 5 or 6 mins to download. It becomes a real nightmare if there are several images that size.

[Bort]

Heh, my signature picture is exactly 10% taller than 120 pixels. Woo Hoo! :smug:

[MaxT.dk]

Many people, especially in the UK, pay for the Internet per kb transferred.
That means that several sigs that size is going to start costing them.

Other people in remote areas (including my self until recently) operate 56k modems. 2.2mb will take 5 or 6 mins to download. It becomes a real nightmare if there are several images that size.
User CP (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/usercp.php) > Edit Options > Thread Display Options > Uncheck "Show Signatures" and "Show Avatars" > Problem solved :)

[robbo180265]

How's mine?

[XabbaRus]

so elite hunter when are you changing your sig?

[Takeda Shingen]

How's mine?

The maximum height allowed is 120. Your's is 200. Please reduce the size.

I also echo Xabba's question.

[P_Funk]

Many people, especially in the UK, pay for the Internet per kb transferred.
That means that several sigs that size is going to start costing them.
That sounds like a rip off. How do any of these people pirate software, browse terrorist sites or download massive quantities of high quality porn?! I say its an affront to freedom and decency.

I don't think mine's bad though.

[GakunGak]

Am I complying with da rulez?:arrgh!:

[robbo180265]

How's mine?

The maximum height allowed is 120. Your's is 200. Please reduce the size.

I also echo Xabba's question.

Pointless - you'll not be able to see it or read it - Gone!

[Takeda Shingen]

Am I complying with da rulez?:arrgh!:

It's a little tall. 120 is the limit. The 10% rule is for existing signatures only. Your's is new, and therefore not applicable with this regulation.

[Takeda Shingen]

How's mine?

The maximum height allowed is 120. Your's is 200. Please reduce the size.

I also echo Xabba's question.

Pointless - you'll not be able to see it or read it - Gone!

Excellent. Your current signature display is acceptable and within the perameters. Thank you for your cooperation.

[robbo180265]

How's mine?

The maximum height allowed is 120. Your's is 200. Please reduce the size.

I also echo Xabba's question.

Pointless - you'll not be able to see it or read it - Gone!

Excellent. Your current signature display is acceptable and within the perameters. Thank you for your cooperation.

It's my pleasure:arrgh!:

[Letum]

Many people, especially in the UK, pay for the Internet per kb transferred.
That means that several sigs that size is going to start costing them.

Other people in remote areas (including my self until recently) operate 56k modems. 2.2mb will take 5 or 6 mins to download. It becomes a real nightmare if there are several images that size.
User CP (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/usercp.php) > Edit Options > Thread Display Options > Uncheck "Show Signatures" and "Show Avatars" > Problem solved :)

Ahh, but why have none at all, when with a little coperation from everyone you can have lots of nice (but small) sigs. :D

[HunterICX]

Many people, especially in the UK, pay for the Internet per kb transferred.
That means that several sigs that size is going to start costing them.

Other people in remote areas (including my self until recently) operate 56k modems. 2.2mb will take 5 or 6 mins to download. It becomes a real nightmare if there are several images that size.
User CP (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/usercp.php) > Edit Options > Thread Display Options > Uncheck "Show Signatures" and "Show Avatars" > Problem solved :)

Ahh, but why have none at all, when with a little coperation from everyone you can have lots of nice (but small) sigs. :D

Thought there is a NEG side on it
Modders have their Download links placed upon their Signatures so if you disable it.you cant see modders links so.

[GakunGak]

Am I complying with da rulez?:arrgh!:

It's a little tall. 120 is the limit. The 10% rule is for existing signatures only. Your's is new, and therefore not applicable with this regulation.
Will do something about that later in the day...:yep:

[tycho102]

Why are these options not more feasable:

Keep a stickied thread with a hosts.txt file. People with large signatures are required to update the thread with a post, giving the location of the picture host. Modify the hosts file, delete the post. People can copy 'n paste the text into their c:/windows/hosts.txt file to block the hosting domains.

Uncheck "show signatures" and "show avatars" in the control panel.

Turn off images in your browser. This is partially why I use Firefox, Galeon, Epiphany, and Konquerer. Use one browser for surfing, another browser for functionality.
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I sympathize with the people under a quota, but having a "colorful" forum goes a long way to making it attractive. I don't normally keep a signature just because I'm cool like that -- I know there's poor bastards in Australia under Bigpond that get hosed per gigabyte. Still, I like seeing some of the signatures. If I had to deal with a quota, I would be using the "block images" functionality in most Gecko browsers. Firefox makes it very easy to withhold images until you press the toolbar icon to "show images on this page". If I was really strapped (dialup *and* quota), I'd be using Lynx (text-only browser).


It just seems like there is a superior way of handling the issue, although bombing this thread with all my animated .gifs probably isn't it. :)

[Gizzmoe]

Why are these options not more feasable:

Keep a stickied thread with a hosts.txt file. People with large signatures are required to update the thread with a post, giving the location of the picture host. Modify the hosts file, delete the post. People can copy 'n paste the text into their c:/windows/hosts.txt file to block the hosting domains.
This completely blocks entire domains and is not a good idea for various reasons.

Uncheck "show signatures" and "show avatars" in the control panel.
Only works if you´re logged in, visitors would still be "bombarded" with oversized sigs. Plus, when you disable "show signatures" you no longer see the links to sites or mods some people put in their sigs.

Turn off images in your browser.
That, for example, blocks emoticons as well, which could change the meanings of sentences. If you mean that people selectively block certain oversized sigs, that would work in theory, but it´s far more "customer friendly" to attack the problem at the root.

[VipertheSniper]

wow, if I didn't check this section once in a while I wouldn't have noticed this at all, just changed my sig.

[VipertheSniper]

WTF??? From Navy Dude to this avatar ARGHH someone please shoot me


EDIT: Ohhh much better now, is the post 179 something special? One wild night in Bangkok, what is that about?

[GakunGak]

How's mine? [again?]

[Reaves]

Done but my ensign looks really small.

Elite Hunter: Your sig is just too big. I don't mind animations but movies? :hmm: Nice but at work it takes a long time to load, even on ADSL 250...

[Fish]

Is there a easy way to minimize a pic?

[Gizzmoe]

How's mine? [again?]

It´s 168kB, max is 100kB.

[GakunGak]

How's mine? [again?]

It´s 168kB, max is 100kB.
Soo.....
Can I keep it? Please? No more changing sigs, just text?:yep:

[danlisa]

Is there a easy way to minimize a pic?
What exactly do you mean?

Resize or compress?

You can use a free image suite (i.e Infran view or GIMP) to resize your image. You can do this by setting your own pixel dimensions or by manually dragging corners. Sometimes, cropping maybe your best choice as if you just resize you may experience some distortion/warping of the original.

To compress your JPG, you can use the same programs and when choosing 'save as jpg' set your compression percentage before saving. Usually 70-80% will still keep the image sharp and without pixelation.

[Gizzmoe]

Can I keep it?

No.

[GakunGak]

Can I keep it?

No.
Very well...
Loud & clear, aye sir!:lol:

[Reaves]

Hehe Warhawks sig doesn't meet the criteria. :rotfl:


-Runs away


Sorry elite_hunter... I do like your sig, I lmao the first time I saw it. Even though I waited for a few minutes for it to load. :)

[HunterICX]

I was just trying to calm the situation.... I failed... Now I will terminate myself with Trident nuke....

its not dangerous situation mate,
its a bit rude to fire foul language in a different language at others

and I know what he said, I work in tourism armed with lots of dictionaries.

I know some people are fond of their sigs...but a sig of 2 MB is a pain for 56 K users and other slow internet users, or people that have limited bandwitch.

thats all mate nothing to worry about.

HunterICX

[Fish]

Is there a easy way to minimize a pic?
What exactly do you mean?

Resize or compress?

You can use a free image suite (i.e Infran view or GIMP) to resize your image. You can do this by setting your own pixel dimensions or by manually dragging corners. Sometimes, cropping maybe your best choice as if you just resize you may experience some distortion/warping of the original.

To compress your JPG, you can use the same programs and when choosing 'save as jpg' set your compression percentage before saving. Usually 70-80% will still keep the image sharp and without pixelation.

Thanks mate. :up:

[Takeda Shingen]

I have removed the off topic items in this discussion. Make your own threads in which to cry like small children.

[Onkel Neal]

Guys, we have to set some baselines for sig sizes, otherwise they get bigger and bigger.... kind of like my Mastercard bill.

Thanks for your cooperation.

Neal

[elite_hunter_sh3]

yes but 100kb is rediculous... if its gonna be that low... might as well ban all images/animated gifs in signatures and only allow text......:shifty:

[GakunGak]

yes but 100kb is rediculous... if its gonna be that low... might as well ban all images/animated gifs in signatures and only allow text......:shifty:
But what about dial-up users?:know:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

ok dailup is 56kb/s ... 2.2mb is 2200ish kb... divide by 56... u get around 40.22 or so seconds..... and the rest of the page is a megabyte or 2 more....another 2min or so...
so the sig pictures are reduced to a ridculously small size of 100kb.. jus for 40 seconds... while the overall page while take a good min or 2 to load....:roll:

if they are gonna reduce sigs to be that small... then just ban them overall.... :shifty:

[GakunGak]

Why do you have to have that pasta sig, you d/l the archive i posted, why not choose something smaller or at least resize pasta to a smaller resolution/quality?:lol:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

mehh... i dont care that much anymore....lol if i probably add a sig... a month or 2 down the road they r gonna reduce it again...... so i dont care now....:shifty:

p.s its one hell of a collection.. ;) :P

[GakunGak]

mehh... i dont care that much anymore....lol if i probably add a sig... a month or 2 down the road they r gonna reduce it again...... so i dont care now....:shifty:

p.s its one hell of a collection.. ;) :P
Still updatin'...:yep:
Why not use userbars, or animated userbars?:know:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

no thanks.... they are just gonna yell in 1 month when they reduce the sigs to 50kb and like 100x50 pixels.....:shifty:

[GakunGak]

no thanks.... they are just gonna yell in 1 month when they reduce the sigs to 50kb and like 100x50 pixels.....:shifty:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
That was good... Anyhow, It's up to the Uncle Neal and the Mods to make rules and we gotta obey them the best in our ability...
Don't be too hard on them...:smug:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

ya.... kinda feel sorry for the ppl with dialup...considering the fact i jus scored 2.4mb/s.. get better internet soon!!!:up:

[GakunGak]

ya.... kinda feel sorry for the ppl with dialup...considering the fact i jus scored 2.4mb/s.. get better internet soon!!!:up:
You scored what?
Provide details...:ping:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

ya.... kinda feel sorry for the ppl with dialup...considering the fact i jus scored 2.4mb/s.. get better internet soon!!!:up: You scored what?
Provide details...:ping:


check the general topics section for the internet speed thread... :arrgh!:

[GakunGak]

ya.... kinda feel sorry for the ppl with dialup...considering the fact i jus scored 2.4mb/s.. get better internet soon!!!:up: You scored what?
Provide details...:ping:


check the general topics section for the internet speed thread... :arrgh!:
You....
You got ADSL XL, don't you?:hmm:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

idk wut i got... my dad and his neighbor (good friend) we set up a wireless network.. cuz we live in condominiums right beside each other..and he has i think the fastest bell canada offers... im not sure thou... it keeps me satisfied :up:

[GakunGak]

idk wut i got... my dad and his neighbor (good friend) we set up a wireless network.. cuz we live in condominiums right beside each other..and he has i think the fastest bell canada offers... im not sure thou... it keeps me satisfied :up:
How much do you pay for that?

[elite_hunter_sh3]

pfft... none.... my neighbors a expert programmer... and im a expert in computer hardware.. i can assemble a 8000$ gaming computer in under 20 min and it will work perfectly for a hell of a long time... considering the fact i built 2 of his 8 dual core cpu server computers, 1 laptop, and his wireless network... so in exchange i get to do wut i love (compute hardware) while i get free internet... :arrgh!: and besides.... assmebling a a 8 computer wireless network consisting of 2 11,000$ server computers, 3 2000$ laptops, and 3 gaming computers (my house)....conpensation is in effect.. :up:

[GakunGak]

pfft... none.... my neighbors a expert programmer... and im a expert in computer hardware.. i can assemble a 8000$ gaming computer in under 20 min and it will work perfectly for a hell of a long time... considering the fact i built 2 of his 8 dual core cpu server computers, 1 laptop, and his wireless network... so in exchange i get to do wut i love (compute hardware) while i get free internet... :arrgh!: and besides.... assmebling a a 8 computer wireless network consisting of 2 11,000$ server computers, 3 2000$ laptops, and 3 gaming computers (my house)....conpensation is in effect.. :up:
Free heaven on earth... MOther of God!!!:doh:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

:arrgh!::arrgh!::arrgh!::arrgh!:

[Onkel Neal]

yes but 100kb is rediculous... if its gonna be that low... might as well ban all images/animated gifs in signatures and only allow text......:shifty:

If you want, I can do that for you, as a special case?

[elite_hunter_sh3]

no no.. its ok you dont have to... :up: ill wait.

[Gizzmoe]

ok dailup is 56kb/s ... 2.2mb is 2200ish kb... divide by 56... u get around 40.22 or so seconds..... and the rest of the page is a megabyte or 2 more....another 2min or so...
Wrong. Analogue dialup is 56kbit, 2.2MB is around 2200 kByte. 56kbit/s=7kByte/s (at best, usually it´s more like 5kByte/s). 2000/7=286 seconds.

Here are the proper abbreviations btw:

kb=kilobit
kB=kiloByte
Mb=Megabit
MB=MegaByte

[GakunGak]

What is this, a math class?
Good God, have mercy...:lol:
Just kidding, Giz. Good post!:up:

[bookworm_020]

I think mine is OK, Just want to make sure:up:

[Letum]

I think mine is OK, Just want to make sure:up:
Technicaly it is 20pixels too wide (includeing the 20% rule)

But the file size is tiny and it's a nice sig so you should get away with it. ;)

Edit: Heres one that falls within the with rule of 200pixels for you. Feel free to hot-link. :)


http://www.b3tards.com/u/57a418c694bc7c6296b3/bookworm020ef2.gif

[Oberon]

How about this one...it's only a temp one....but I don't want to fall foul of the rules. :D

[Tchocky]

I have to go into profiles to see sigs, but nice one! :)

[Takeda Shingen]

Max height is 120. That is 200. It is very funny, but you have to reduce it.

EDIT: Oops. That's the width. 138 falls within the +10% rule. Keep it.

[Lzs von swe]

Hm, think mine is almost spot on, or:hmm: :sunny: