Is Destroyer Command worth buying

[ReubenJames]

Yesterday, I went down town and found a retail copy of DC on sale $15.99. Is it worth buying? Is DC a very hard core naval simulator? Does it support internet gameplay?

I am also looking for Harpoon 3. When was it released? Is it an old game? Is it like Fleet Command?

[STEED]

I would not pay that price for Destroyer Command no way, I checked the UK prices brand new £5.00 odd. DC is an old game but it's good fun it has a similar lay out like SH2 so if you like SH2 you probably will like DC.

[ReubenJames]

It's pretty aged. Would it look out-dated?

[STEED]

Have a look at my SH2 pictures here -

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=105911 (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=105911)

They will give you an idea what it looks like as both look very Simula.

[Hitman]

Sure, but not as much as old DOS/Win95 games. After all, there is 3D environment, Direct3D graphics acceleration and 1024x768 res. Not great by today's standards, but doesn't look that bad at all. Check the review section at Subsim's main page, there are pictures attached and you can have an idea of how it looks like.

Hardcore: There are many options, so you can go from full manual to full auto on everything, you can customize it to your taste.:yep:

Multi: DC2 allows multi against other DC or SH2, though subsim's unofficial Projekt Messerwetzer patch is nearly mandatory for internet play. LAN isn't that bad, though PM enhances it also considerably.

Price: For the price you mentioned you can get here in Spain the combo SH2/DC

[horsa]

found a retail copy of DC on sale $15.99. Is it worth buying?
Sigh .... where do I begin ....

Do you like old books, prefer the smell of real leather, like to wear the same comfortable jacket for years, prefer driving a Model T ford to a smart modern sports car, ...... then DC is for you at any price. The thing about DC is it does things no other sim can do.

It's not as pretty as SH3 but you can sail/steer the DDs, drop depth charges, and launch torpedo attacks. At least you can actually get inside the ships instead of admiring them from afar like in SH3/4. Its not got the prettiest of models but ( with editing) you have virtually every type of warship at your disposal, and for every nationality you care to choose.

If you can find the mods it actually can look quite good too.

[Sailor Steve]

The biggest complaint about SH2 was the lack of replayability; that is all the missions were scripted. The odd thing is that in DC it was the same, but it felt more realistic that way. Part of this is because submarines were told to go into enemy territory and sink ships, which obviously a lone destroyer couldn't do. This meant that the missions were either simple escort missions or you were part of a group.

Also, DC allowed several campaigns to be stored at once, so you could have several campaigns at once.

Also mentioned is the multi-play. You can actually play DC and SH2 against other players, and as mentioned you could also write missions that let you play against other destroyers. Much fun, especially with the mods that let you run battleships (not to mention the WWI mod).

[Lagger123987]

Go for it, your going to be happy when you get this classic game, also it's moddable so you can control the big BBs in the game not DDs.

[horsa]

For you Steve.

DC is an open canvas to virtually any gun based naval sim

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9505/forthbridgetex01qr6.th.jpg (http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=forthbridgetex01qr6.jpg)

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2088/irondukeclean05eh7.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=irondukeclean05eh7.jpg)

[JapLance]

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9505/forthbridgetex01qr6.th.jpg (http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=forthbridgetex01qr6.jpg)

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2088/irondukeclean05eh7.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=irondukeclean05eh7.jpg)


:o :o :o :o

:hmm:

I'd take it. Simply because there is nothing similar in the market, apart from the good old Fighting Steel.

Check E-bay, you may find it even cheaper.

[Heer Kapitain]

Is it worth buying?

ReubenJames

I am playing Destroyer Command at the moment and I find it cool even if its an old game. I am at the moment doing 2 different campaigns one is the Atlantic and one is the Pacific.

I have started the Pacific Campaign first to which is cool especially being attacked by jap Zero's, Val's and Kates :D about 10 times in the last mission and the going to find the Jap carrier and sink it.

[Mr Lemmy]

I'm probably too late as you've probably bought DC (:D), but....

Yes. It has a kind of infamous reputation in the sim world as an unfinished, bug ridden piece of software, but it's a unique sim as far as I know. It has all the flaws of SH2 (scripted missions etc) but I personally have had a lot of fun with it. (Even patched, it has some quirks though)

The main disappointment is the sub hunting. The AI throughout DC is generally poor, but the U boat skippers too often remain at periscope depth and you ram just ram them.

For me though DC really redeems itself in the anti aircraft and torpedo action. I always found the anti aircraft station a lot of fun in SH2 and often found it a pity that I had to dive to survive :) In DC however, the anti aircraft action is even more fun. Wave after wave of dive and torpedo bombers are there to shoot down, whether you do it by yourself at the station, or order the crew to do it and watch from the bridge.

The most baffling initially, yet most satisfying aspect is the torpdedo station. The manual isn't much help, but I eventually managed to figure it out, and I can tell you, hitting a Japanese or German cruiser with a torpdedo that you fired with manual sight information is extremely satisfying. If you have trouble with the torpedo station, PM me and I'll explain how to use it :D

[Monterey]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=123583

[Pisces]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=123583Isn't that spamming? Off topic if you ask me.

[d@rk51d3]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=123583Isn't that spamming? Off topic if you ask me.

I wouldn't say spamming, maybe just an alternative option.

[EAST]

Destroyer Command isn't the only game to offer command of a ship. Enigma does as well. You can command historical ships, as well as a couple of one off ships like a German converted Flower class corvette (historical evidence exists) against very good submarine AI.

Depth charges, torpedo runs, anti-aircraft, anti-ship; if you haven't tried it then you are missing a compelling experience.

Note: Many simmers here are thrown off by the alternate history, particularly our British friends (they lost WWI in Enigma), however, we didn't just throw together some ill-conceived and fantasy based history; we researched real history, found critical points of divergence in real history and followed those.

For all of Enigmas (no budget) mistakes, omissions, and choices, it was made by people who love the era, are knowledgeable about it, and devoted years to creating it. The add-on will give you the ability to change how any ship behaves, how the weapons perform, reload times, etc. Craft your own missions or campaigns and, if you choose, we'll even convert your 3ds Max models to the format needed to run inside the game. Not to mention the add-on will remove the cd check and copy protection.

Enigma isn't facile and it isn't dull; if you aren't trying it because of the naysayers, you are missing out.

Destroyer Command is worth buying because any product that isn't complete garbage and is in this game space is worth supporting.

Kelly 'East' Asay
Tesseraction Games, Inc.

[Sea Demon]

Yes. I finally went out and bought Enigma. It is a very enjoyable game. I would recommend both Enigma and Destroyer Command. For different reasons. Both give a different perspective of command, have different goals, but both offer unique gaming experiences. In all honesty, I'm glad I own both of them.

[nikimcbee]

For you Steve.

DC is an open canvas to virtually any gun based naval sim

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9505/forthbridgetex01qr6.th.jpg (http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=forthbridgetex01qr6.jpg)

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2088/irondukeclean05eh7.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=irondukeclean05eh7.jpg)


Horsa, are these mods ready? :hmm:

[horsa]

Very hard to give a clear cut answer to that.

Obviously interest in something like this is going to be pretty limited because of the era chosen and a somewhat "old hat" game engine. Currently I've a fairly laid back approach to the whole thing, which includes avoiding a situation where I make myself a hostage to a timetable.

Having said all that the "plan" is to release bundles of assets in stages, so the gaming environment is functional, but develops and expands with each release. The bundles will use placeholders a lot.
The "Raiders of the Deep" approach is perhaps the closest to this that I can think of. There are differences of course. RaidersDeeep has its own game engine and is also more innovative.

I'm under no delusions about this being any sort of cutting edge supermod that's going to set the world alight. Its an indulgence on my part to satisfy an old need to create a WW1 naval environment. DC/SH2 has a lot of scope for enhancement and despite its age and limitations can produce a more than acceptable gaming experience.

For general information :-
Its part of a project called Iron Seas which has its own forum here
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=226

Website : http://www.ironseas.co.uk/index.html

[PhilM]

Those screen shots by Horsa

I just installed DC for the first time since it came out.

Couldn't stand the dark water then and I still can't now, but I'm going to try to ignore it and concentrate on game play.

So whats the story with the dark ocean. I have seen some other shots here with lighter colored water also.

[Castout]

Don't get it then. Don't get it now unless for 2 bucks or less.

[yubba]

Get Hires ocean and wakes at { 2/3 mods } sorry I don't have link right at hand. They have plenty of mods here to dress it up, would be a little more fun to get campaigns for the Heavys.

[PhilM]

Get Hires ocean and wakes at { 2/3 mods } sorry I don't have link right at hand. They have plenty of mods here to dress it up, would be a little more fun to get campaigns for the Heavys.

Thanks yubba, got em but haven't tried them yet.

I tried to edit the water2.tga file myself in PSP ( well it looked like the dark ocean file to me) and replaced the original, but it was still the same old dark ocean when I run DC again.

I'm not a modder. Am I missing something in trying to get my edited tga file to show.