OPEC openly blackmailing the West

[Skybird]

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,487000,00.html

It certainly is no surprise, but it is a nice reminder of the nature of this cartel, and the intolerable vulnerability of the West.

The OPEC president has warned of doing too much research for alternative energies and trying to continue developing bio-fules. He said that this practice will make OPEC to significantly reduce it's investements into oil producing facilities, which would make oil prices hitting through the ceiling.

No further comment needed, I assume. It's almost kind of a war declaration.

[Jimbuna]

This has always been their kind of response to alternative energy development. There are a few countries in the gulf that have less than 25 years known oil reserves left, and this factor alone clearly (in their opinion) leaves them vulnerable to oppression from some of their better off neighbours.

[KevinB]

My heart bleeds for them. This organistion as well as the oil companies have us over a barrell (pun intended).
Just try and invent something that runs without oil or gas and see what happens to you.

I remember reading some years ago the editor of a magazine I subsribe to was contacted by a man who had invented a process where a car could run on water. An appointment was set up with the magazine for a demonstration.
Later that day the man called the editor and said he wasn't going ahead with demonstration because when he finished speaking with him earlier, he received a call from someone who said if he went ahead with the demonstration, his family would be mailed to him in pieces. Nice people!

[August]

Bah that is nothing! Look at what the Sudanese are threatening!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/30/AR2007053002157.html

"I want you to know that the gum arabic which runs all the soft drinks all over the world, including the United States, mainly 80 percent is imported from my country," the ambassador said after raising a bottle of Coca-Cola. A reporter asked if Sudan was threatening to "stop the export of gum arabic and bring down the Western world."
"I can stop that gum arabic and all of us will have lost this," Khartoum Karl warned anew, beckoning to the Coke bottle. "But I don't want to go that way."
As diplomatic threats go, that one gets high points for creativity: Try to stop the killings in Darfur, and we'll take away your Coca-Cola.

[The Avon Lady]

NO!!!!!!

[The Avon Lady]

The OPEC president has warned of doing too much research for alternative energies
Yet at the same time those crafty Saudis have developed an advanced process (http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20041020_MemriTV_Popup/video_480x360.asp?ai=214&ar=1475wmv&ak=null) which reduces fuel consumption by 50% and is not within reach of the western world. :hmm:

[Jimbuna]

Bah that is nothing! Look at what the Sudanese are threatening!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/30/AR2007053002157.html

"I want you to know that the gum arabic which runs all the soft drinks all over the world, including the United States, mainly 80 percent is imported from my country," the ambassador said after raising a bottle of Coca-Cola. A reporter asked if Sudan was threatening to "stop the export of gum arabic and bring down the Western world."
"I can stop that gum arabic and all of us will have lost this," Khartoum Karl warned anew, beckoning to the Coke bottle. "But I don't want to go that way."
As diplomatic threats go, that one gets high points for creativity: Try to stop the killings in Darfur, and we'll take away your Coca-Cola.


We'd better get used to drinking beer then!! :lol:

[Jimbuna]

The OPEC president has warned of doing too much research for alternative energies
Yet at the same time those crafty Saudis have developed an advanced process (http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20041020_MemriTV_Popup/video_480x360.asp?ai=214&ar=1475wmv&ak=null) which reduces fuel consumption by 50% and is not within reach of the western world. :hmm:

Those women need to be careful....next they'll be allowing them to bear children and do the washing :lol:

[Letum]

The OPEC president has warned of doing too much research for alternative energies Yet at the same time those crafty Saudis have developed an advanced process (http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20041020_MemriTV_Popup/video_480x360.asp?ai=214&ar=1475wmv&ak=null) which reduces fuel consumption by 50% and is not within reach of the western world. :hmm:

Thats a seriously bizzare discussion!

[The Avon Lady]

The OPEC president has warned of doing too much research for alternative energies Yet at the same time those crafty Saudis have developed an advanced process (http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20041020_MemriTV_Popup/video_480x360.asp?ai=214&ar=1475wmv&ak=null) which reduces fuel consumption by 50% and is not within reach of the western world. :hmm:
Thats a seriously bizzare discussion!
Have a field day with these (http://memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S5&P1=77) - 7 pages of them.

[Jimbuna]

@AL

ROFLMAO :rotfl:

[bradclark1]

I remember reading some years ago the editor of a magazine I subsribe to was contacted by a man who had invented a process where a car could run on water.
That old wives tale has been around forever(as in decades). If that were true it would be a matter of national security.

[Heibges]

You guys are a bunch of commies. :lol: :rotfl:

My cable company, Comcast, operates largely the same way.

[tycho102]

I guess the jizyah (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=jizyah&x=0&y=0) could be called "blackmail (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=blackmail&x=0&y=0)".

It's just a specific type of blackmail.

[Skybird]

You guys are a bunch of commies. :lol: :rotfl:

My cable company, Comcast, operates largely the same way.

Communist Casting? Is it a KGB-recruiting show?

[KevinB]

I remember reading some years ago the editor of a magazine I subsribe to was contacted by a man who had invented a process where a car could run on water.
That old wives tale has been around forever(as in decades). If that were true it would be a matter of national security.

If that were the case, tell that to this guy's widow.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3333992194168790800&q=water+car+inventor+murdered

[August]

I remember reading some years ago the editor of a magazine I subsribe to was contacted by a man who had invented a process where a car could run on water. That old wives tale has been around forever(as in decades). If that were true it would be a matter of national security.
If that were the case, tell that to this guy's widow.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3333992194168790800&q=water+car+inventor+murdered

Show me some link that doesn't fill the first 5 minutes with images of faded flags and other emotion provoking stuff and maybe i'll believe it.

[bradclark1]

I remember reading some years ago the editor of a magazine I subsribe to was contacted by a man who had invented a process where a car could run on water. That old wives tale has been around forever(as in decades). If that were true it would be a matter of national security.
If that were the case, tell that to this guy's widow.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3333992194168790800&q=water+car+inventor+murdered

Show me some link that doesn't fill the first 5 minutes with images of faded flags and other emotion provoking stuff and maybe i'll believe it.
There's a 2 minute piece underneath it that explains the technology. I don't know about the murdered piece as I didn't have the patience either, but it seems that KevinB is correct about the water power.
If it wasn't a hoax how come no one has picked up the ball? As far as murdered for it, thats like closeing the gate after the cows were out. He had already invented it.
Hmmm, anybody want to play detective?

Edit: Here we go. Thought it was funny the world hasn't turned into water world.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/video-revolutionary-water-based-power-for-cars.html

[Deamon]

This has always been their kind of response to alternative energy development. There are a few countries in the gulf that have less than 25 years known oil reserves left,
Nah, just dig a little deeper :yep:

http://www.vialls.com/wecontrolamerica/peakoil.html

[moose1am]

During WWII Hitler and Germany were concerned about their Oil Situation. So they developed the technology to create oil from Coal reserves in Germany.

Fast forward to 1973/74 and the formation of OPEC and the first OPEC disruption of oil supplies to the USA. We waited in long lines to get a few gallons of gasoline. Before 1973 gasoline was as low as 25 Cents per gallon during the gas wars. After the formation of OPEC the US Did nothing except to arm these OPEC nations especially Saudi Arabia. We should have invaded Saudi Arabia and taken back the oil fields that we and the British discovered and developed with Western Technology while them camel riding Dough nut hole /rag wearing dwellers were still riding horses and fishing with WW1 type guns and swords.

. But I think that the oil people in the US were in bed with the Saudi Royal Family. They worked together to get them all more money from us poor suckers in the USA by manipulating the price of crude oil throughout the world.

Anyway fast forward to 1976 and the election of Jimmy Carter as President. This peanut farmer knew a thing or two about energy sources. He tried to develop the same synfuel type plants in Western KY that German used at the end of WWII. There were going to be 4 to 6 synfuel plants in Western KY alone.

Now when Ronald Reagan got into office he killed the Synfuel plants in Western KY with the stroke of a pen. I also remember at the time that Saudi Arabia lowered the price of oil by pumping out more oil suddenly. This had the effect of making the Synfuel plants look like a bad investment. Only with high oil prices could the developers recoup the costs of building these plants and turning coal into liquid Oil. When the price of oil fell it make the synfuel plants less economically feasible.

So Saudi Arabia with the help of the GOP oil people have been manipulating the price of oil for a very long time now. Over 35 years since 1973.

I grew up in the days of Muscle Cars with 500 HP and 4 on the 4 positive track rear ends with 4 barrel Holley Carbs. Pontiac GTO's, Shelby Mustangs, Chevy Corvette Stingrays, and Plymouth Hemi's were what all the guys drove back in the late 1960's and during the first two years of 1970's. After 1973 the price of gasoline started to sky rocket and the muscle cars were history. That helped to bring on the age of the Mini Van and the Compact Foreign Cars.

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,487000,00.html

It certainly is no surprise, but it is a nice reminder of the nature of this cartel, and the intolerable vulnerability of the West.

The OPEC president has warned of doing too much research for alternative energies and trying to continue developing bio-fuels. He said that this practice will make OPEC to significantly reduce it's investments into oil producing facilities, which would make oil prices hitting through the ceiling.

No further comment needed, I assume. It's almost kind of a war declaration.

[moose1am]

During WWII Hitler and Germany were concerned about their Oil Situation. So they developed the technology to create oil from Coal reserves in Germany.

Fast forward to 1973/74 and the formation of OPEC and the first OPEC disruption of oil supplies to the USA. We waited in long lines to get a few gallons of gasoline. Before 1973 gasoline was as low as 25 Cents per gallon during the gas wars. After the formation of OPEC the US Did nothing except to arm these OPEC nations especially Saudi Arabia. We should have invaded Saudi Arabia and taken back the oil fields that we and the British discovered and developed with Western Technology while them camel riding Dough nut hole /rag wearing dwellers were still riding horses and fishing with WW1 type guns and swords.

. But I think that the oil people in the US were in bed with the Saudi Royal Family. They worked together to get them all more money from us poor suckers in the USA by manipulating the price of crude oil throughout the world.

Anyway fast forward to 1976 and the election of Jimmy Carter as President. This peanut farmer knew a thing or two about energy sources. He tried to develop the same synfuel type plants in Western KY that German used at the end of WWII. There were going to be 4 to 6 synfuel plants in Western KY alone.

Now when Ronald Reagan got into office he killed the Synfuel plants in Western KY with the stroke of a pen. I also remember at the time that Saudi Arabia lowered the price of oil by pumping out more oil suddenly. This had the effect of making the Synfuel plants look like a bad investment. Only with high oil prices could the developers recoup the costs of building these plants and turning coal into liquid Oil. When the price of oil fell it make the synfuel plants less economically feasible.

So Saudi Arabia with the help of the GOP oil people have been manipulating the price of oil for a very long time now. Over 35 years since 1973.

I grew up in the days of Muscle Cars with 500 HP and 4 on the 4 positive track rear ends with 4 barrel Holley Carbs. Pontiac GTO's, Shelby Mustangs, Chevy Corvette Stingrays, and Plymouth Hemi's were what all the guys drove back in the late 1960's and during the first two years of 1970's. After 1973 the price of gasoline started to sky rocket and the muscle cars were history. That helped to bring on the age of the Mini Van and the Compact Foreign Cars.

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,487000,00.html

It certainly is no surprise, but it is a nice reminder of the nature of this cartel, and the intolerable vulnerability of the West.

The OPEC president has warned of doing too much research for alternative energies and trying to continue developing bio-fuels. He said that this practice will make OPEC to significantly reduce it's investments into oil producing facilities, which would make oil prices hitting through the ceiling.

No further comment needed, I assume. It's almost kind of a war declaration.

[Jimbuna]

I take it your not from Saudi Arabia or the Persian Gulf region then? :hmm:

[Heibges]

Unfortunately, arms merchants go where the money is.

Chysler lobbied hard to sell M-1 to Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait just to keep their factories open.

Defense contractors in every country bend over backwards to sell weapons to our enemies. Self-fulfilling proficy.

And sadly, a lot of America's problems could have been avoided just if we hadn't backed off from carpooling. Every 16 year old doesn't need their own car.