SH4 to SH3

[Dustyboats]

It is with very great reluctance that I have abandoned SH4 and am returning to SH3/GWX. There is no need for a lengthy explanation as the many points of my disappointment have been covered by many others. I am just very frustrated with coming up against "bugs" even after the extensive mods to this sim.
Having said that......I do not appear to have a " 360 Bearing Template" on my SH3/GWX "Attack Chart". I can get the cardinal points overlay which is perhaps all I really need. However would some one please put me right as to wether the "360 Bearing Template" was a download mod or was "in game".........Thanks a million in anticipation.......Dusty.

[Genghis Khan]

It is with very great reluctance that I have abandoned SH4 and am returning to SH3/GWX. There is no need for a lengthy explanation as the many points of my disappointment have been covered by many others. I am just very frustrated with coming up against "bugs" even after the extensive mods to this sim.
Having said that......I do not appear to have a " 360 Bearing Template" on my SH3/GWX "Attack Chart". I can get the cardinal points overlay which is perhaps all I really need. However would some one please put me right as to wether the "360 Bearing Template" was a download mod or was "in game".........Thanks a million in anticipation.......Dusty.

Passed by a bunch of SHIV DVD's in the supermarket today.Nobody is buying them.I am not going to also.However,you must run around the whole city or even go elsewhere to find a single available copy of stock SHIII.I think that's a real indication of SHIII vs. SHIV comparison.:lol:

Now,I bought several blank DVD boxed DVD's and will be writing GWX into one of them,I am going to make,so to say,SHIII personal collection.:D :up:

[ReallyDedPoet]

It is with very great reluctance that I have abandoned SH4 and am returning to SH3/GWX. There is no need for a lengthy explanation as the many points of my disappointment have been covered by many others. I am just very frustrated with coming up against "bugs" even after the extensive mods to this sim.
Having said that......I do not appear to have a " 360 Bearing Template" on my SH3/GWX "Attack Chart". I can get the cardinal points overlay which is perhaps all I really need. However would some one please put me right as to wether the "360 Bearing Template" was a download mod or was "in game".........Thanks a million in anticipation.......Dusty.
Sorry to see you go :roll:, maybe after patch 1.3 you will be back:hmm: Since SH4 has come out I have been playing it most of the time, along with GWX, nice to have both theatres to go back and forth with.

Good Hunting with GWX:up:

RDP

[Jimbuna]

Welcome back kaleun :arrgh!:

Have you tried applying it via the '?' tab at the upper centre/right of your attack screen ? :hmm:

[Dustyboats]

Welcome back kaleun :arrgh!:

Have you tried applying it via the '?' tab at the upper centre/right of your attack screen ? :hmm:

Yes dear chap, but I only get the "Cardinal points" overlay by doing so.

[Jimbuna]

All I can think of is offering you this installation information in the hope you might be able to identify something....it's quite possible you have a corrupt file :yep:
Oh and by the way...the bearing template was 'in - game'

1. Uninstall SH3 via Windows' "Add/Remove programs"
2. Open Windows Explorer and:
- *delete* the folder where you had installed SH3
- *delete* the \My Documents\SH3 folder
3. Reinstall SH3
4. If your SH3 did not come with patch v1.4b already included, install patch v1.4b. Ensure you install the patch that corresponds to your copy of SH3 (Download/DVD/EMEA/US)
5. OPTIONAL: Copy and paste this "clean" install as a backup to avoid the need to follow steps 1-3 if your game becomes corrupt in future
6. Visit the GWX homepage (http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/GWX/) and download into the SAME folder GWX.exe and the five .bin files. While there grab the v1.03 patch
7. Run GWX.exe and follow the installation prompts
8. Run GWX103.exe and follow the installation prompts
9. SH3 COMMANDER USERS: Visit the GWX homepage (http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/GWX/) and download the GWX 1.02+ Cfg files for SH3 Commander and unzip the contents DIRECTLY into your SH3 Commander\Cfg folder.

[Dustyboats]

It is with very great reluctance that I have abandoned SH4 and am returning to SH3/GWX. There is no need for a lengthy explanation as the many points of my disappointment have been covered by many others. I am just very frustrated with coming up against "bugs" even after the extensive mods to this sim.
Having said that......I do not appear to have a " 360 Bearing Template" on my SH3/GWX "Attack Chart". I can get the cardinal points overlay which is perhaps all I really need. However would some one please put me right as to wether the "360 Bearing Template" was a download mod or was "in game".........Thanks a million in anticipation.......Dusty.
Sorry to see you go :roll:, maybe after patch 1.3 you will be back:hmm: Since SH4 has come out I have been playing it most of the time, along with GWX, nice to have both theatres to go back and forth with.

Good Hunting with GWX:up:

RDP

Yes one assumes 1.3 will put a lot of things right. I have been playing SH4 since it came out in the UK alongside SH3/GWX too. SH4 was modded up to the hilt however. When I checked last night there were 16 mods on SH4, 5 on SH3/GWX and still SH4 wasn't up to scratch for its supposed tactical side. A great shame really because it has the ability of "outshining" even GWX (I say that with deep respect for the GWX team!). The Pacific Theatre of 41-45 was vastly different to the Atlantic Theatre 39-45, something I believe the Devs of SH4 missed or misunderstood by using much of the SH3 format within SH4.

[Dustyboats]

All I can think of is offering you this installation information in the hope you might be able to identify something....it's quite possible you have a corrupt file :yep:
Oh and by the way...the bearing template was 'in - game'

1. Uninstall SH3 via Windows' "Add/Remove programs"
2. Open Windows Explorer and:
- *delete* the folder where you had installed SH3
- *delete* the \My Documents\SH3 folder
3. Reinstall SH3
4. If your SH3 did not come with patch v1.4b already included, install patch v1.4b. Ensure you install the patch that corresponds to your copy of SH3 (Download/DVD/EMEA/US)
5. OPTIONAL: Copy and paste this "clean" install as a backup to avoid the need to follow steps 1-3 if your game becomes corrupt in future
6. Visit the GWX homepage (http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/GWX/) and download into the SAME folder GWX.exe and the five .bin files. While there grab the v1.03 patch
7. Run GWX.exe and follow the installation prompts
8. Run GWX103.exe and follow the installation prompts
9. SH3 COMMANDER USERS: Visit the GWX homepage (http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/GWX/) and download the GWX 1.02+ Cfg files for SH3 Commander and unzip the contents DIRECTLY into your SH3 Commander\Cfg folder.

Thanks Jimbu......Having investigated under your direction here, the fault lay in my not cancelling the MAIN SH3 Folder in "my documents"......silly me!.....Dusty.

[Iron Budokan]

I stopped playing SH4 after the last patch, too, but I have high hopes and am looking forward to 1.3. So don't give up yet, kaleun! :up:

[joea]

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Passed by a bunch of SHIV DVD's in the supermarket today.Nobody is buying them.I am not going to also.However,you must run around the whole city or even go elsewhere to find a single available copy of stock SHIII.I think that's a real indication of SHIII vs. SHIV comparison.:lol:



Hardly the case. :roll: Sh3 came out 2 years ago and I doubt there are many new copies being made anyway, nor is there much demand as most of those who wqould buy it have already got it.

[btaft]

My plan is to stick with GWX until the patches run dry on SH4 and hope that a group like GWX takes on a similar effort with SH4. I think SH4 has a lot of potential and I really love the theater (more shallow areas, more islands, task force action etc).

[Dustyboats]

It is with very great reluctance that I have abandoned SH4 and am returning to SH3/GWX. There is no need for a lengthy explanation as the many points of my disappointment have been covered by many others. I am just very frustrated with coming up against "bugs" even after the extensive mods to this sim.
Having said that......I do not appear to have a " 360 Bearing Template" on my SH3/GWX "Attack Chart". I can get the cardinal points overlay which is perhaps all I really need. However would some one please put me right as to wether the "360 Bearing Template" was a download mod or was "in game".........Thanks a million in anticipation.......Dusty.

Well there you go!!! I knew as soon as I threatened UBI to take SH4 off my screen they would shudder in their boots and come up with the much needed Patch. It is nice to know that our petition did not fall on deaf ears. Now all I need is a petition from you all to stop paying Income Tax on my Naval Pension.....it might just work too!!!! LOL

[Jimbuna]

Well there you go!!! I knew as soon as I threatened UBI to take SH4 off my screen they would shudder in their boots and come up with the much needed Patch. It is nice to know that our petition did not fall on deaf ears. Now all I need is a petition from you all to stop paying Income Tax on my Naval Pension.....it might just work too!!!! LOL

Can you have a similar word with my commanding officer because I'm looking for an early retirement package?

:lol: :up:

[Vacillator]

As I don't have so much interest in the Pacific, I haven't bought SH4 yet. But I will at some point if only to support the ongoing development of submarine sims. And who knows, if it's modded as well as GWX, I might even get into all things Pacific (although Pacific Fighters didn't do it for me in the Il2 series).

[ReallyDedPoet]

It is with very great reluctance that I have abandoned SH4 and am returning to SH3/GWX. There is no need for a lengthy explanation as the many points of my disappointment have been covered by many others. I am just very frustrated with coming up against "bugs" even after the extensive mods to this sim.
Having said that......I do not appear to have a " 360 Bearing Template" on my SH3/GWX "Attack Chart". I can get the cardinal points overlay which is perhaps all I really need. However would some one please put me right as to wether the "360 Bearing Template" was a download mod or was "in game".........Thanks a million in anticipation.......Dusty.
Sorry to see you go :roll:, maybe after patch 1.3 you will be back:hmm: Since SH4 has come out I have been playing it most of the time, along with GWX, nice to have both theatres to go back and forth with.

Good Hunting with GWX:up:

RDP
When I checked last night there were 16 mods on SH4, 5 on SH3/GWX and still SH4 wasn't up to scratch for its supposed tactical side. A great shame really because it has the ability of "outshining" even GWX (I say that with deep respect for the GWX team!).

GWX itself though is the combination of many mods, plus what people are adding to it presently. If properly patched, SH4 has potential to reach GWX heights. Still some will stay away because of it being in the Pacific , that's fine, in the end it is all about choice :yep:.

As mentioned I like the option of both theatres.

RDP

[Dustyboats]

It is with very great reluctance that I have abandoned SH4 and am returning to SH3/GWX. There is no need for a lengthy explanation as the many points of my disappointment have been covered by many others. I am just very frustrated with coming up against "bugs" even after the extensive mods to this sim.
Having said that......I do not appear to have a " 360 Bearing Template" on my SH3/GWX "Attack Chart". I can get the cardinal points overlay which is perhaps all I really need. However would some one please put me right as to wether the "360 Bearing Template" was a download mod or was "in game".........Thanks a million in anticipation.......Dusty.
Sorry to see you go :roll:, maybe after patch 1.3 you will be back:hmm: Since SH4 has come out I have been playing it most of the time, along with GWX, nice to have both theatres to go back and forth with.

Good Hunting with GWX:up:

RDP
When I checked last night there were 16 mods on SH4, 5 on SH3/GWX and still SH4 wasn't up to scratch for its supposed tactical side. A great shame really because it has the ability of "outshining" even GWX (I say that with deep respect for the GWX team!).

GWX itself though is the combination of many mods, plus what people are adding to it presently. If properly patched, SH4 has potential to reach GWX heights. Still some will stay away because of it being in the Pacific , that's fine, in the end it is all about choice :yep:.

As mentioned I like the option of both theatres.

RDP

I agree with you. The option of both theatres is really a boon. As said by McAthur...."I shall return!"

[kiwi_2005]

I still play SH4 only reason i went back to SH3 is cause i recently got Broadband so was able to download GWX. But im finding myself playing GWX more than SH4:D

[Jimbuna]

I still play SH4 only reason i went back to SH3 is cause i recently got Broadband so was able to download GWX. But im finding myself playing GWX more than SH4:D

Way to go kaleun :rock: :up:

[rascal101]

Id like to go back to SH3 but couldnt face the awful graphics, I dont want to offend any one but after playing SH4 the SH3 graphics are a bit tired in comparison, too bad the game play in SH3 GWX/NYGM leave SH4 for dead

I've been corrupted by SH4's wonderful graphics, but have little patience with SH4 cos every time I play I find a new bug or inconsistency. I must say there is a Coral Sea mod from the German web site which is very good.

I want to go back to the Atlantic, basically I'm waiting for the next installment from the GWX crew as I'm hoping there will be enough significant changes to allow me to see past the SH£ ship models

I still play SH4 only reason i went back to SH3 is cause i recently got Broadband so was able to download GWX. But im finding myself playing GWX more than SH4:D
Way to go kaleun :rock: :up:

[Jimbuna]

Id like to go back to SH3 but couldnt face the awful graphics, I dont want to offend any one but after playing SH4 the SH3 graphics are a bit tired in comparison, too bad the game play in SH3 GWX/NYGM leave SH4 for dead

I've been corrupted by SH4's wonderful graphics, but have little patience with SH4 cos every time I play I find a new bug or inconsistency. I must say there is a Coral Sea mod from the German web site which is very good.

I want to go back to the Atlantic, basically I'm waiting for the next installment from the GWX crew as I'm hoping there will be enough significant changes to allow me to see past the SH£ ship models

I still play SH4 only reason i went back to SH3 is cause i recently got Broadband so was able to download GWX. But im finding myself playing GWX more than SH4:D
Way to go kaleun :rock: :up:

I'm obviously not about to divulge any detail in the next GWX 'instalment'....but what I will say is there are no graphical improvements in the pipeline :nope:

[dcb]

I'm obviously not about to divulge any detail in the next GWX 'instalment'....but what I will say is there are no graphical improvements in the pipeline :nope:
Now, I regard this as really good news. Given the long time involved in creating GWX 1.04, this means the whole time is being spent on gameplay improvements, which is just great. The current graphical aspect of GWX is already excellent, so the more time is taken on gameplay, the better for me. GWX team, take your time and keep up the good work:up: We'll wait as long as it is necessary.

[Jimbuna]

I'm obviously not about to divulge any detail in the next GWX 'instalment'....but what I will say is there are no graphical improvements in the pipeline :nope:
Now, I regard this as really good news. Given the long time involved in creating GWX 1.04, this means the whole time is being spent on gameplay improvements, which is just great. The current graphical aspect of GWX is already excellent, so the more time is taken on gameplay, the better for me. GWX team, take your time and keep up the good work:up: We'll wait as long as it is necessary.

Not quite what I meant :nope:
It depends on what you perceive as a graphical improvement :hmm:
To some it might be a new unit with a different or as yet unseen skin....To others it is a sharper clearer picture with a totally different kind of texture like say, those seen in SH4. (depending on the individuals viewpoint)
I meant the latter :yep:

[ReallyDedPoet]

Id like to go back to SH3 but couldnt face the awful graphics, I dont want to offend any one but after playing SH4 the SH3 graphics are a bit tired

Playing SH4, like the graphics, also the game as a whole, that being said the GWX graphics are not awful, far from it :yep:

RDP

[Jimbuna]

Personally speaking I think the only graphical improvement IMO in SH4 is the water...and even that is debatable :hmm:

[ReallyDedPoet]

The various effects in the water are impressive, light shafts, algae ( a mod has toned this down a bit ), and water transparency is nice. Storm water needs some work though, the effect seems correct, just does look right in its present state.

RDP

[rascal101]

Sorry Guys as I said I did not want to offend any one! Re SH3 graphics, my real problem is with the merchants and effects, this is what I meant by awful graphics.

I played SH3 for ages and loved it, but I always had a problem with the poor modelling of the merchants, ie the targets. Many are awful, take the small merchants or large tankers, they would not look out of place in an old Tom and Jerry or Bugs Bunny carttoon. Then if you take your camera above a certain height, you get miles and miles of...tiles. And the smoke, explosions and lighting effects are primative.

SH4 is streets ahead of this, providing your computer is up to it, I paid a pile to upgrade my PC to play SH4, I was overawed by the graphics, then I discovered the game play.

Now I cant say I'm all that enthused to play either game, SH3/GWX game play are fantastic, but graphics are 'old hat and fail to excite SH4 graphics are fantastic but game play is to say the least useless, I guess I'll have to wait for SH5.

Perhapos the word awful was a bit extreme, perhaps you would accept, dull.


Id like to go back to SH3 but couldnt face the awful graphics, I dont want to offend any one but after playing SH4 the SH3 graphics are a bit tired

Playing SH4, like the graphics, also the game as a whole, that being said the GWX graphics are not awful, far from it :yep:

RDP

[ReallyDedPoet]

Sorry Guys as I said I did not want to offend any one! Re SH3 graphics, my real problem is with the merchants and effects, this is what I meant by awful graphics.


Don't worry about it, everybody has a right to their opinion :yep:

RDP

[Jimbuna]

Sorry Guys as I said I did not want to offend any one! Re SH3 graphics, my real problem is with the merchants and effects, this is what I meant by awful graphics.


Don't worry about it, everybody has a right to their opinion :yep:

RDP

Precisely :up:

[Frenssen]

After the honeymoon with SH4 I returned back to SH3 GWX. I hope no one gets offended, but the Pacific theatre just doesn`t do it for me. When you get the SD/SJ radars it gets boring quickly.
It`s much more exciting with ships popping out of the fog than seeing them on a radar 30nm away.

[Lt. Cobra]

I like the various ways that ships blow up; break up and sink in SH4 although SH3 is great in my opinion. Until they get SH4 fixed I will not be playing it. Too many bugs and CTDs for me. :nope: