Hilarious...and scary.

[Tchocky]

The opening of the world's first creationist museum, in Kentucky. Science H Logic, what's gotten into these people? :lol:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2090664,00.html

Critics say the $27m (£14m) centre, whose motto is "Prepare to believe!", will be the first museum in the world whose exhibits are almost entirely fake.

[ASWnut101]

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Education/Pix/pictures/2007/03/01/trex128.jpg
Tyrannosaurus rex was vegetarian and lived alongside humans, the Creation Museum claims.


:rotfl:

Those are some sharp-looking plant teeth, Mr. Rex!

I will Belive!!








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Seriously, those people are quite messed up in the head.:yep:

[The Avon Lady]

Hey! Most vegetarians I know have a grumpy side.

[SUBMAN1]

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Education/Pix/pictures/2007/03/01/trex128.jpg
Tyrannosaurus rex was vegetarian and lived alongside humans, the Creation Museum claims.


:rotfl:

Those are some sharp-looking plant teeth, Mr. Rex!

I will Belive!!








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Seriously, those people are quite messed up in the head.:yep:


Yep - messed. Hmm, what are those other dino's parts that t-rex has been found with in its stomach then? They must have crawled in there after t-rex's death. Then again, let me see, t=rex would die in the time they were talking about - they would have lived forever until the fruit was eaten in the garden of eden. So exactly how did this t-rex die after the fruit was eaten, and then go backwards in time so that it could be fossilized over a millions or so years? Hmm, but wait, the Earth couldn't have fossils since it is not old enough to have fossils. So maybe we never found any fossils? But wait.....

[Heibges]

In Kentucky?

Buy one ticket, and your sister gets in for free.

[TteFAboB]

When the Dollar devalues that will be the first property I'll buy with my gold bars. I'll combine the robots with the Japanese Mechwarrior (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL7QnCAmcWQ) and create a Dino-hunter theme-park with giant walking robots.

what's gotten into these people?

Self-training/learning through endless repetition, group mechanics and a few drops of sugar. Mix well, let it rest for 30 minutes then put it in the oven for 1 hour. Ding, dessert's served!

[Prof]

Oh Lord... (no pun intended :D)

The Bible is not to be taken literally :nope:. For all of you fundamentalist Christians out there: it's metaphorical! I'm glad you see fit to instruct others regarding how to read and understand the Bible :roll:

[Rose]

Oh Lord... (no pun intended :D)

The Bible is not to be taken literally :nope:. For all of you fundamentalist Christians out there: it's metaphorical! I'm glad you see fit to instruct others regarding how to read and understand the Bible :roll:

You're right. Post deleted. I'm just going to try and stay out of these discussions from now on. Wait 'till I'm a bit older and seen more of life... :D

Sorry if anyone took offense.

[Tchocky]

Don't see much of that here, Rose :up:

good man

[Skybird]

Heared of it before. Please nobody expect me to take these people serious. Dangerous - yes, serious - never.

The little daughter of my parent's neighbours sometimes spend time with them (my mum has a huge and beautiful garden on the balcony), and when I was there one day during autumn last year, TV showed a short report on "documentation films" made by creationists. It was hilarious statements, pseudo-scientific babbling, and illustration that reminded me of the old Ray Harryhausen movies :lol: The girl, seven years old, watched it a bit from the side while observing some insects on the flowers, and when the report was finished she just said: "Sind die dumm oder noch klein?" (Are they stupid, or are just too young?)

My Mum and me bursted with laughter. Promising child - I have started to teach her chess. :D

[MadMike]

Don't know if the rest of the world get's "Family Guy", but this clip just about sums it up- :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feEynLQkY_E

Yours, Mike

[Letum]

That place has gotta be a good laugh.

[Skybird]

This I copied over from anothe thread where I misplaced it completely. Bad day over here, I'm messing up everything I touch today...
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Creationists project quite some influence by the Christian right in the US. 2005 Bush agreed in public that their views should become part of official teaching in public schools. In Kansas, so says wikipedia, their views are taught in schools in fact, which lead to two major science associations withdrawing all their support in material and personnel from assisting public schools (which probably is exactly what creationists hoped to achieve). The American Civil Liberties Union commented on a law case they had over there, saying that they support the ruling from that case that teaching creationism in schools is violating the constitution. There were also a number of scandals concerning schools where creationists tried to enforce the teaching of their views even against valid laws and court rulings.

Laut einer Umfrage Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life (http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pew_Forum_on_Religion_and_Public_L ife&action=edit) (2005) glauben etwa 26 Prozent der US-Bevölkerung, dass sich das Leben über Jahrmillionen durch natürliche Auslese entwickelt habe. Dass ein höheres Wesen die Entwicklung der Lebewesen gesteuert hat, stimmen 18 Prozent zu. Während insgesamt 48 Prozent an eine Entwicklung der Lebewesen glauben, sind 42 Prozent der Ansicht, dass „die Lebewesen seit Anbeginn der Zeit in ihrer heutigen Form existierten“. Außerdem befürwortet die Mehrheit der US-Amerikaner, dass in den Schulen beides nebeneinander gelehrt werden soll.[6] (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kreationismus#_note-5)
Insbesondere die Faktoren Alter und Ausbildung bestimmen dabei die Einstellung der US-Amerikaner. So akzeptieren von den College-Absolventen etwa 40 Prozent die natürliche Auslese im Gegensatz zu 18 Prozent bei den Amerikanern ohne College-Ausbildung. Die Hälfte der Amerikaner mit einem Alter über 65 akzeptiert den Kreationismus, verglichen mit 37 Prozent bei den unter 30-Jährigen.
This quote again is from wikipedia, saying that only 26% of Americans believe in evolutionary selection over millions of years, 18% believe in some superior entity having influenced it, 42% believe that all lifeforms have been created by someone and have exiosted in their current state since since all of time. It also says that 40% of those who finished high school, prefer the evolution theory, while amongst those not having been at high school only 18% are agreeing on evolution theory. Half of those older than 65 years, and 38% of those under the age of 30 accept creationism. - All in all this is an example that the best weapon against religiously motivated narrow-mindedness or even fanaticism is - education. That's why religious education in so many cases tries to prevent their children from being educated properly, and isolate them from everything that is not written in their holy books. such people having access to enormous financial and economical resources, even military and nuclear options, is a perspective I do not live well with.

to make it clear, I do not attack a community that is peaceful, does not mistreat or abuse it's members and children, and does not run an agenda to take over a state, a nation, foreign cultures, and does not push it's ideas by propaganda, intrigues or violence. I do not know much about them (only what was said in that famous movie, "Witness"), but the Amish for example seem to be such a group. If they are like they were depicted in that movie - no problem for me. I may be wrong, I really don't know much more about them than what the movie said. But creationists as well - and even far more aggressive - scientologists are something different. I have identified them as a thread and for that reason consider them a valid target. I attack them wherever they stroll over my way. Aggressive sectarian missionaries occasionally appeared and still appear on my doorstep. when I do not play games with them and trap them with their own rhetorical cheats and tricks (after all I got some solid training in talking techniques, body language and hypno-therapy :) ), I kick them out. I am co-owner of the property and house I live in, so I have the right to speak out a sending-off as well as an unlimited prohibition of entering our place again (they aren't invited by anyone here, so they cannot claim a right for public access).

Thankfully, there are also signs of reason:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/28/national/28utah.html?ex=1180670400&en=641ab215249143a6&ei=5070
In past years, their were several scandals and incidents where creationists tried to push their agenda in schools. American medias often took and take nationwide notice of it.

With economy and ecology mounting increasing problems in the foreseeable future, and by that raising existential fears amongst people, I expect political as well as religious extremism growing. The consequences from that will be felt on a global, international, intercultural level.

Damn - I ruined the fun-fun-fun-party again... :-?

[kurtz]

Education may be good but I can't help thinking that some would classify that museum as being educational.

Actually I think it may be, I've learned a lot from it:huh:

@Rose you carry on you can only form opinions properly by arguing. Also I think the idea of the Bible is it is meant to be taken literally.

http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/when_to_stone_your_children/dt21_18a.html

[Happy Times]

Read all about it. :rotfl:

http://creationwiki.org/Main_Page

[Rose]

Education may be good but I can't help thinking that some would classify that museum as being educational.

Actually I think it may be, I've learned a lot from it:huh:

@Rose you carry on you can only form opinions properly by arguing. Also I think the idea of the Bible is it is meant to be taken literally.

http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/when_to_stone_your_children/dt21_18a.html

Well, what I really meant to say is that: I believe that the stories in the Bible are meant to be taken metaphorically, with each story having a hidden meaning that Christians are meant to follow. The stories aren't all necessarily true, but they were put in the Bible so we could uncover the teachings in them.

Take for example the story of Jonah and the Whale. The literal story of Jonah being swallowed by a whale and living inside it's stomach for X number of days is "rediculous" (in my opinion) because 1) it isn't physically possible to survive in the stomach of a whale with stomach acid and without oxygen and 2) In Biblical times, there was NO WATER in the area where the story is supposed to have taken place. However, more important (imo) than being able to memorize the literal word-for-word passages of a story such as Jonah, is actually being able to take away a deeper meaning from the story and keep that as a value with you in your daily life.

I don't think that the story of Jonah and the Whale ever happened as described in the Bible. What I do think is that the writers wanted to impart upon us a valuable lesson, and the best medium they could use to convey that message was through a "rediculous" (imo), but straightforward, easy to understand story. I believe that the lesson is for children to obey their parents, young people to respect their elders, etc. The story of Jonah is a story of respect.

I think all stories in the New and Old Testaments follow this formula of the "impossible" used to convey a valuable message/lesson.

I am not the most articulate person, so I hope that makes sense. Also, I mean to offense to anyone. My original posting of my beliefs was very rude (sorry Prof), and I hope I've made it clear now that it is only what I believe -- I'm not trying to tell anyone how to read the Bible.

Btw, I am Catholic with a Jewish dad -- just to put things into context.

[The Avon Lady]

Take for example the story of Jonah and the Whale.
There were no such belief as Christianity at the time of Jonah the prophet.
The literal story of Jonah being swallowed by a whale and living inside it's stomach for X number of days is "rediculous" (in my opinion) because 1) it isn't physically possible to survive in the stomach of a whale with stomach acid and without oxygen
You would think that it would take a miracle ...and maybe that is what the story of Jonah is about.

BTW, it says that G-d arranged a great/large fish (Hebrew: "Dag Gadol") to swallow Yonah. It does not say specifically that this was a whale (usually called a "Levyatan" in Hebrew).
and 2) In Biblical times, there was NO WATER in the area where the story is supposed to have taken place.
Um, Jonah departed from the port of Jaffa/Yafo, still around today on the south side of Tel Aviv.