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Maraz
05-29-07, 06:42 AM
My SHIII+GWX install worked like a charm until I lost my HD (I had all backed up, including my careers, luckily) and I had to reinstall everything from scratch on a new HD.

I installed the same OS (Win2000 SP4) and the same software (anti-virus, firewall, etc) and then I installed SHIII, GWX and the same mods I had before, in the usual way.

From that time I am experiencing frequent crashes to desktop, in particular when action becomes hot, there are many ships around, etc. Very often the crash happens few seconds after the "She is going down" message.

I tried first disabling all mods, then reinstalling SHIII+GWX, then disabling all programs running in the background (internet connection, firewall, antivirus, etc), then I thought it could be a sound problem (I have an onboard audio device) and I reinstalled the drivers and disabled audio HW acceleration. Nothing helped.

I just put up a small mission with two corvettes and three merchants, when I go on the surface to engage the corvettes (it's just a test, would not do that in my career) I _always_ get a CtD within few minutes, during the engagement, usually just after I sink the first corvette. This also happens with no mods installed (only GWX).

I saw that when the CtD happens, often the "Dr Watson" application starts running, can I get some information about the reason of crash from this program (I know it's a sort of a debugger)? How?

What I am sure about is that my system can handle SHIII+GWX (I have an AMD2800, 1 GB RAM, GeForce 6600 GT video card). I think it's impossible that a new HD has caused all these problems.

Any chance that I can overcome the problem without a complete reformat and Windows reinstall? Unfortunately I am not very good at this and I would have to take the PC again to the repair shop...

I must say that other programs and simulators (e.g. Ubisoft's IL-2FB) are showing no problem.

Thanks to all those who will try and help...

Maraz

Brag
05-29-07, 11:01 AM
Have you deleted your old careers?
I deleted mine and the problem stopped

Good luck with your machine

Maraz
05-29-07, 02:57 PM
I did delete everything when reinstalling (including the registry) but recovered my current career (I did not want to lose it).

But the problem is not only when playing in career mode, but also in single mission only.

Anyway I will follow your advice, I will initiate a new "career" and play under that name the single mission, to see if the problem appears again.

Thanks
Maraz

GakunGak
05-29-07, 03:59 PM
Your rig is perfect to windows xp, make a "switch"...
As for the crash, do a complete uninstall, manually delete all files/folders from the Ubisoft folder in program files, cleanup registry, install sh3, patch it and mod it in this order....
Install latest direct x.
Fire up gameshadow program and patch video drivers and major fixes if available...

Maraz
05-29-07, 04:41 PM
Your rig is perfect to windows xp, make a "switch"...
As for the crash, do a complete uninstall, manually delete all files/folders from the Ubisoft folder in program files, cleanup registry, install sh3, patch it and mod it in this order....
Install latest direct x.
Fire up gameshadow program and patch video drivers and major fixes if available...

Hi,
I followed you procedure for the clean reinstall.
Then I also thought that some files my DVD could be corrupt and made another reinstall by copying the files from another install I have on my laptop. Result did not change, so at least my DVD is not corrupt.

I have DirectX 9.0c installed, is there a newer version around?

Yes I could switch to XP, but I have an old game peripheral (Saitek PC Dash-2) that is said to have some problems with XP, infact I could not install it on my XP laptop. So I am staying with 2000 for the moment...

I don't have gameshadow installed.

So next step would be checking all the drivers, though maybe I should look for older drivers (cause they did work with my old system before reinstall).

Thanks for your support
Maraz

GakunGak
05-29-07, 04:45 PM
Install only latest drivers...
Now try this:
try to run SH3 WITHOUT ANY MODS OR ANYTHING, just patch it t 1.4b and thne give it a go.
Post back results...

Maraz
05-29-07, 04:54 PM
Install only latest drivers...
Now try this:
try to run SH3 WITHOUT ANY MODS OR ANYTHING, just patch it t 1.4b and thne give it a go.
Post back results...
I'll do this tomorrow, now it's late :)
Meanwhile here is the Dr Watson log, maybe some computer geek can understand something, I cannot... unfortunately it's Italian, anyway te format should be standard. Only thing I see is that NTDLL.DLL seems to be involved...

Maraz


Microsoft (R) Windows 2000 (TM) versione 5.00 DrWtsn32
Copyright (C) 1985-1999 Microsoft Corp. Tutti i diritti riservati.



Exception dell'applicazione:
App: (pid=1572)
Ora: 29/05/2007 @ 21:48:02.031
Numero exception: c0000005 (access violation)

*----> System Information <----*
Nome computer: CASA
Nome utente: XXXXXXXXX
Numero processori: 1
Tipo processore: x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 1
Versione di Windows 2000: 5.0
Build corrente: 2195
Service Pack: 4
Tipo corrente: Uniprocessor Free
Organizzazione registrata:
Proprietario autorizzato: XXXXXXXXX

*----> Elenco Task <----*
0 Idle.exe
8 System.exe
160 smss.exe
192 csrss.exe
212 WINLOGON.exe
240 SERVICES.exe
252 LSASS.exe
396 svchost.exe
432 vsmon.exe
536 spoolsv.exe
564 SAgent2.exe
584 svchost.exe
676 nvsvc32.exe
716 regsvc.exe
720 mstask.exe
760 winmgmt.exe
796 svchost.exe
896 explorer.exe
1056 zlclient.exe
1084 CnxDslTb.exe
1108 jusched.exe
1100 ProfilerU.exe
1116 SaiMfd.exe
1140 internat.exe
1160 msnmsgr.exe
1480 firefox.exe
1592 wuauclt.exe
1572 sh3.exe
932 drwtsn32.exe
0 _Total.exe

(00400000 - 0063A000)
(78460000 - 784E1000)
(79260000 - 792C5000)
(796B0000 - 7976B000)
(77120000 - 7718F000)
(10000000 - 10008000)
(00230000 - 002AE000)
(00640000 - 007E9000)
(007F0000 - 007F5000)
(78000000 - 78045000)
(77E10000 - 77E6F000)
(77F40000 - 77F7C000)
(77820000 - 77827000)
(75980000 - 75986000)
(77550000 - 77581000)
(7C340000 - 7C396000)
(75000000 - 75009000)
(74FE0000 - 74FF4000)
(74FD0000 - 74FD8000)
(00800000 - 0081A000)
(7C3A0000 - 7C41B000)
(00820000 - 00834000)
(7CE60000 - 7CF4F000)
(00840000 - 0084C000)
(70BD0000 - 70C34000)
(00850000 - 00858000)
(00860000 - 0088A000)
(7CF70000 - 7D1BA000)
(71780000 - 7180A000)
(00890000 - 008A4000)
(008B0000 - 008C5000)
(008D0000 - 008D7000)
(74820000 - 74836000)
(773F0000 - 77403000)
(6A7B0000 - 6A7D0000)
(30000000 - 30072000)
(008E0000 - 008E8000)
(00EE0000 - 00EE7000)
(00EF0000 - 00EF7000)
(00F00000 - 00F15000)
(00F20000 - 00F28000)
(00F30000 - 00F3B000)
(00F40000 - 00F64000)
(00F70000 - 00F78000)
(00F80000 - 00F89000)
(00F90000 - 01004000)
(70200000 - 70295000)
(798A0000 - 7992C000)
(77410000 - 77421000)
(779B0000 - 77A4B000)
(01420000 - 01430000)
(01430000 - 01454000)
(01460000 - 01484000)
(01590000 - 015DD000)
(015E0000 - 015F2000)
(01600000 - 01649000)
(51080000 - 510E1000)
(01660000 - 0166B000)
(71A20000 - 71A28000)
(6E380000 - 6E386000)
(75E30000 - 75E4A000)
(72C90000 - 72D1F000)
(783C0000 - 78450000)
(79060000 - 790C5000)
(01D60000 - 01D67000)
(1FF00000 - 1FF7E000)
(1A400000 - 1A478000)
(091A0000 - 091ED000)
(77540000 - 77548000)
(773E0000 - 773E8000)

Scarico dello stato per l'id del thread 0x5f8

eax=45dd0032 ebx=45ef6fd8 ecx=4445a5c1 edx=44a49459 esi=00000000 edi=45dd1a30
eip=015ac289 esp=0012ecf4 ebp=45dd1a30 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000 efl=00200246


funzione: <nosymbols>
015ac264 8bc7 mov eax,edi
015ac266 e8b55efeff call 01592120
015ac26b eb5e jmp 015afdcb
015ac26d 3bc7 cmp eax,edi
015ac26f 0f94c0 sete al
015ac272 84c0 test al,al
015ac274 7555 jnz 015b89cb
015ac276 c744240800000000 mov dword ptr [esp+0x8],0x0 ss:00bb8bdb=????????
015ac27e e9f1030000 jmp 015ac674
015ac283 8bb764010000 mov esi,[edi+0x164] ds:45dd1b94=00000000
FAULT ->015ac289 8b4640 mov eax,[esi+0x40] ds:00a89ee6=????????
015ac28c 83c614 add esi,0x14
015ac28f 3bc7 cmp eax,edi
015ac291 7538 jnz 015b47cb
015ac293 85c0 test eax,eax
015ac295 7434 jz 015b4dcb
015ac297 8bce mov ecx,esi
015ac299 ff151c305c01 call dword ptr [015c301c] ds:015c301c=00248300
015ac29f 8b4630 mov eax,[esi+0x30] ds:00a89ee6=????????
015ac2a2 85c0 test eax,eax
015ac2a4 c7462c00000000 mov dword ptr [esi+0x2c],0x0 ds:00a89ee6=????????
015ac2ab 7406 jz 015b89b3

*----> Back Trace dello stack <----*

FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1 Param#2 Param#3 Param#4 Function Name
45DD1A30 45DD1BD0 45DD16E4 9E0AE3E6 B3C8CADB 00000000 !<nosymbols>
015C6B48 015A9040 015A57A0 015A9AD0 015C16A6 015A9010 <nosymbols>
015A94C0 00000138 082444F6 560A7401 310015FF C483015C !<nosymbols>

*----> Scarico Raw Stack <----*
0012ecf4 d6 d9 e0 3c f8 59 c8 3f - ef ff cd 41 59 94 a4 44 ...<.Y.?...AY..D
0012ed04 e3 f8 bf 44 98 78 5b 3f - 59 94 a4 44 c1 a5 45 44 ...D.x[?Y..D..ED
0012ed14 c1 a5 45 44 19 d5 6f bf - 25 ae 28 3a 8e 11 b3 be ..ED..o.%.(:....
0012ed24 76 cc 5a 01 44 ed 12 00 - 48 ed 12 00 d6 d9 e0 3c v.Z.D...H......<
0012ed34 d6 d9 e0 3c 30 1a dd 45 - 90 fb dc 45 78 f0 4d 12 ...<0..E...Ex.M.
0012ed44 00 00 80 3f 00 00 00 00 - 90 fb dc 45 78 f0 4d 12 ...?.......Ex.M.
0012ed54 00 00 00 00 d6 d9 e0 3c - 90 fb dc 45 78 f0 4d 12 .......<...Ex.M.
0012ed64 67 9a 5a 01 d6 d9 e0 3c - d6 d9 e0 3c 30 1a dd 45 g.Z....<...<0..E
0012ed74 f5 13 59 01 d6 d9 e0 3c - d6 d9 e0 3c d0 1b dd 45 ..Y....<...<...E
0012ed84 30 e8 23 00 d6 d9 e0 3c - 68 d2 4a 01 d8 0d ec 45 0.#....<h.J....E
0012ed94 d6 d9 e0 3c 09 74 4d 00 - d6 d9 e0 3c 78 f0 4d 12 ...<.tM....<x.M.
0012eda4 b8 2a dd 12 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .*..............
0012edb4 d6 d9 e0 3c 00 00 00 00 - 12 00 00 00 64 c7 44 00 ...<........d.D.
0012edc4 d6 d9 e0 3c d6 d9 e0 3c - b8 2a dd 12 80 94 49 01 ...<...<.*....I.
0012edd4 e8 c7 4c 00 d6 d9 e0 3c - d6 d9 e0 3c c0 83 24 00 ..L....<...<..$.
0012ede4 00 00 00 00 c3 42 40 00 - 01 d9 e0 3c d6 d9 e0 3c .....B@....<...<
0012edf4 80 94 49 01 18 ff 12 00 - d6 d9 e0 3c 80 94 49 01 ..I........<..I.
0012ee04 7e 8a 40 00 00 d9 e0 3c - 24 00 00 00 d6 d9 e0 3c ~.@....<$......<
0012ee14 6c 5b e1 77 b5 1d 40 00 - d6 d9 e0 3c 01 00 00 00 l[.w..@....<....
0012ee24 30 47 80 00 b3 33 e3 77 - 00 10 23 00 d6 d9 e0 3c 0G...3.w..#....<

Scarico dello stato per l'id del thread 0x5e8

eax=00000102 ebx=80064bd4 ecx=80064bd4 edx=00000000 esi=0014ca08 edi=0014ca48
eip=78468b37 esp=0177fe28 ebp=0177ff74 iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na po nc
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000 efl=00000206


funzione: ZwReplyWaitReceivePortEx
78468b2c b8ac000000 mov eax,0xac
78468b31 8d542404 lea edx,[esp+0x4] ss:02209d0f=35f117de
78468b35 cd2e int 2e
78468b37 c21400 ret 0x14
78468b3a 8bff mov edi,edi

*----> Back Trace dello stack <----*

FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1 Param#2 Param#3 Param#4 Function Name
0177FF74 77148E4A 7712AEED 0014CA08 77140101 00130000 ntdll!ZwReplyWaitReceivePortEx
0177FFA8 77127DE8 0014C310 0177FFEC 796BB396 0014CAF0 rpcrt4!TowerConstruct
0177FFB4 796BB396 0014CAF0 77140101 00130000 0014CAF0 rpcrt4!I_RpcConnectionInqSockBuffSize2
0177FFEC 00000000 77127DD0 0014CAF0 00000000 05180000 kernel32!lstrcmpiW

*----> Scarico Raw Stack <----*
0177fe28 d9 95 14 77 34 01 00 00 - 54 ff 77 01 00 00 00 00 ...w4...T.w.....
0177fe38 18 f1 14 00 00 00 00 00 - 28 a1 14 00 10 c3 14 00 ........(.......
0177fe48 f0 ca 14 00 19 00 02 00 - f4 eb ab bb 80 d3 e9 85 ................
0177fe58 b8 ec ab bb 40 ed ab bb - 60 88 56 e3 30 00 00 00 ....@...`.V.0...
0177fe68 40 ed ab bb 40 ed ab bb - 40 ed ab bb 80 fc 45 80 @...@...@.....E.
0177fe78 00 09 40 80 ff ff ff ff - b8 eb ab bb 6e 73 4d 80 ..@.........nsM.
0177fe88 a8 d5 56 85 a8 eb ab bb - 00 00 00 00 a8 44 95 e2 ..V..........D..
0177fe98 00 00 00 00 c8 12 ea 85 - 30 88 00 e1 00 00 00 00 ........0.......
0177fea8 01 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 - 30 13 ea 85 a8 44 95 e2 .... ...0....D..
0177feb8 19 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 - 10 ec ab bb 00 00 00 00 ................
0177fec8 18 09 17 e2 d4 eb ab bb - 00 00 00 00 f3 2b 41 80 .............+A.
0177fed8 50 14 ea 85 00 00 00 00 - c4 ec ab bb 5f fe 44 80 P..........._.D.
0177fee8 04 00 00 00 68 12 f4 77 - 09 00 4c e3 62 0e 52 80 ....h..w..L.b.R.
0177fef8 52 00 45 e3 03 00 00 00 - 6c 5d 45 e3 ec 08 48 e3 R.E.....l]E...H.
0177ff08 54 ec ab bb 24 26 50 c0 - ba 00 00 00 00 10 50 c0 T...$&P.......P.
0177ff18 4d 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - e4 03 00 00 24 26 50 c0 M...........$&P.
0177ff28 01 00 00 00 00 10 50 c0 - 60 3d 42 85 a0 b7 59 85 ......P.`=B...Y.
0177ff38 00 00 00 00 30 b9 59 85 - 60 ec ab bb 75 c3 42 80 ....0.Y.`...u.B.
0177ff48 7d c3 42 80 a0 b7 59 85 - 00 b9 59 85 d4 4b 06 80 }.B...Y...Y..K..
0177ff58 00 a2 2f 4d ff ff ff ff - 50 fe 77 01 ff ff ff ff ../M....P.w.....

Scarico dello stato per l'id del thread 0x288

eax=77542bda ebx=00000002 ecx=0000001c edx=00000000 esi=78468ef8 edi=00000002
eip=78468f03 esp=1fa5ff24 ebp=1fa5ff70 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000 efl=00000246


funzione: NtWaitForMultipleObjects
78468ef8 b8e9000000 mov eax,0xe9
78468efd 8d542404 lea edx,[esp+0x4] ss:204e9e0b=bb0d390c
78468f01 cd2e int 2e
78468f03 c21400 ret 0x14
78468f06 8bff mov edi,edi

*----> Back Trace dello stack <----*

FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1 Param#2 Param#3 Param#4 Function Name
1FA5FF70 796DA150 1FA5FF48 00000001 00000000 00000000 ntdll!NtWaitForMultipleObjects
1FA5FFB4 796BB396 00000000 00132FB8 7FFDEBF8 00000000 kernel32!WaitForMultipleObjects
1FA5FFEC 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 kernel32!lstrcmpiW

Scarico dello stato per l'id del thread 0x5a4

eax=7b360000 ebx=00000001 ecx=00010101 edx=00000000 esi=78468ef8 edi=00000001
eip=78468f03 esp=003afde4 ebp=003afe30 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000 efl=00000246


funzione: NtWaitForMultipleObjects
78468ef8 b8e9000000 mov eax,0xe9
78468efd 8d542404 lea edx,[esp+0x4] ss:00e39ccb=????????
78468f01 cd2e int 2e
78468f03 c21400 ret 0x14
78468f06 8bff mov edi,edi

*----> Back Trace dello stack <----*

FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1 Param#2 Param#3 Param#4 Function Name
003AFE30 796DA150 003AFE08 00000001 00000000 003AFE28 ntdll!NtWaitForMultipleObjects
003AFE60 510C2E51 00000001 000001F4 00000000 003AFE80 kernel32!WaitForMultipleObjects
003AFF80 510A2329 000001F4 00000000 00000000 00000000 !<nosymbols>
003AFFB4 796BB396 01651EFC 0012E9D8 784AA907 01651EFC !<nosymbols>
003AFFEC 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 kernel32!lstrcmpiW

Scarico dello stato per l'id del thread 0x614

eax=1fb76b50 ebx=00000002 ecx=00004fe0 edx=00000000 esi=78468ef8 edi=00000002
eip=78468f03 esp=0199fecc ebp=0199ff18 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000 efl=00000246


funzione: NtWaitForMultipleObjects
78468ef8 b8e9000000 mov eax,0xe9
78468efd 8d542404 lea edx,[esp+0x4] ss:02429db3=d5dfba10
78468f01 cd2e int 2e
78468f03 c21400 ret 0x14
78468f06 8bff mov edi,edi

*----> Back Trace dello stack <----*

FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1 Param#2 Param#3 Param#4 Function Name
0199FF18 796DA150 0199FEF0 00000001 00000000 00000000 ntdll!NtWaitForMultipleObjects
0199FF48 510B228A 00000002 FFFFFFFF 00000000 0199FF6C kernel32!WaitForMultipleObjects
0199FF78 510B2559 0000046C 0012EAFC 78497E64 01653428 !<nosymbols>
0199FFAC 510B25FC 0199FFEC 796BB396 01653428 0012EAFC !<nosymbols>
0199FFB4 796BB396 01653428 0012EAFC 78497E64 01653428 !<nosymbols>
0199FFEC 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 kernel32!lstrcmpiW

Scarico dello stato per l'id del thread 0x49c

eax=0baf13d0 ebx=00000000 ecx=7ffd9000 edx=00000000 esi=78468f08 edi=00000460
eip=78468f13 esp=01d5ff60 ebp=01d5ff84 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs=0000 efl=00000246


funzione: ZwWaitForSingleObject
78468f08 b8ea000000 mov eax,0xea
78468f0d 8d542404 lea edx,[esp+0x4] ss:027e9e47=94349432
78468f11 cd2e int 2e
78468f13 c20c00 ret 0xc
78468f16 8bff mov edi,edi

*----> Back Trace dello stack <----*

FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1 Param#2 Param#3 Param#4 Function Name
01D5FF84 796BB3E9 00000460 FFFFFFFF 00000000 775441DF ntdll!ZwWaitForSingleObject
78467EE0 8B000000 83042454 7500147A 42FF904F 8B197504 kernel32!WaitForSingleObject
180D8B64 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 <nosymbols>

*----> Scarico Raw Stack <----*
01d5ff60 72 a0 6d 79 60 04 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 r.my`...........
01d5ff70 c0 7f 46 78 00 f6 ae 0b - 60 04 00 00 e8 ff a0 07 ..Fx....`.......
01d5ff80 e8 ff a0 07 e0 7e 46 78 - e9 b3 6b 79 60 04 00 00 .....~Fx..ky`...
01d5ff90 ff ff ff ff 00 00 00 00 - df 41 54 77 60 04 00 00 .........ATw`...
01d5ffa0 ff ff ff ff 85 41 54 77 - 00 00 00 00 ec ff d5 01 .....ATw........
01d5ffb0 00 f6 ae 0b 00 00 00 00 - 96 b3 6b 79 00 f6 ae 0b ..........ky....
01d5ffc0 85 41 54 77 00 00 00 00 - 00 f6 ae 0b 00 90 fd 7f .ATw............
01d5ffd0 00 30 00 00 c0 ff d5 01 - 00 30 00 00 ff ff ff ff .0.......0......
01d5ffe0 6c 21 70 79 08 2b 6b 79 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 l!py.+ky........
01d5fff0 00 00 00 00 85 41 54 77 - 00 f6 ae 0b 00 00 00 00 .....ATw........
01d60000 4d 5a 90 00 03 00 00 00 - 04 00 00 00 ff ff 00 00 MZ..............
01d60010 b8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........@.......
01d60020 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
01d60030 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 e0 00 00 00 ................
01d60040 0e 1f ba 0e 00 b4 09 cd - 21 b8 01 4c cd 21 54 68 ........!..L.!Th
01d60050 69 73 20 70 72 6f 67 72 - 61 6d 20 63 61 6e 6e 6f is program canno
01d60060 74 20 62 65 20 72 75 6e - 20 69 6e 20 44 4f 53 20 t be run in DOS
01d60070 6d 6f 64 65 2e 0d 0d 0a - 24 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 mode....$.......
01d60080 a3 fe 01 8c e7 9f 6f df - e7 9f 6f df e7 9f 6f df ......o...o...o.
01d60090 23 bb 76 df e5 9f 6f df - 1d bc 76 df ee 9f 6f df #.v...o...v...o.

GakunGak
05-29-07, 05:01 PM
Abandon Zone Alarm and get Kaspersky.
The processes that I don't like at all:
Idle.exe
0 _Total.exe
What are they?

Suggestion, just to be safe:
Try the game WITHOUT ZONE ALARM
full scan computer with latest update from kaspersky, set everything to maximum.
Search for these two files and tell me their location.

The last lines of your report shows this program cannot run in dos mode....
Probably corrupt original exe/no cd/dvd?

Maraz
05-30-07, 03:02 AM
OK, of course I tried running SH3 after shutting down Internet connection, Zone Alarm, MSN Messenger, Saitek Profiler, etc. Got the same error, but sometimes Dr Watson is not started, don't know why.

idle.exe should be the system idle process, so I think it's normal. _total.exe is a bit stranger, but it has the same pid so must be the same thing as idle.exe. I found no idle.exe or _total.exe file on my PC. I am unfamiliar with Kaspersky (I know it's payware, and not cheap) but I just run Spybot Search & Destroy and it only found some cookies. Maybe I can download the trial version of Kaspersky and try that.

About no dvd you are right, I am using a nodvd to preserve my original dvd. By the way I am worried about it because when I got it from Simware it was loose in its box, so it had some nasty scratches, I could install the game but, with hindsight, I should have returned it. But i was so impatient! :)

I looked better at Dr Watson's logs and I found several cases when sh3.exe goes in error.

The first one is this:

*----> Back Trace dello stack <----*
FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1 Param#2 Param#3 Param#4 Function Name
0012FD98 784AB80C 00EA0000 118FBE58 0012FE10 00000000 ntdll!RtlZeroHeap
0012FE44 7C34218A 00EA0000 00000000 118FBE60 118FBE40 ntdll!RtlFreeHeap
0012FE8C 00231025 118FBE60 118FBE60 118FBE40 008042F9 !free
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 !EngFree

This is an error I sometimes got when exiting SH3, looks like the program cannot free the memory allocated, it causes no harm but its worrying. I read on the forum of other people having this problem.

The error I am getting in my little hot surface action against corvettes is this:

*----> Back Trace dello stack <----*
FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1 Param#2 Param#3 Param#4 Function Name
450D0B78 45F42E78 45F3D1BC 368F19F2 4225E2DB 00000000 !<nosymbols>
015C6B48 015A9040 015A57A0 015A9AD0 015C16A6 015A9010 <nosymbols>
015A94C0 00000138 082444F6 560A7401 310015FF C483015C !<nosymbols>

And is strange because al the <nosymbols> whose meaning I don't know. I can steadily replicate this error all times I want, in few minutes game crashes.

But the errors I got while on patrol, that almost cost me my whole patrol, were different:


*----> Back Trace dello stack <----*
FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1 Param#2 Param#3 Param#4 Function Name
12734594 408442E0 00000000 00000000 00000000 3F800000 !SoundDataLib::operator=
468F03D8 00000000 12734594 09782CD6 D3F07B4F 00000000 <nosymbols>

*----> Back Trace dello stack <----*
FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1 Param#2 Param#3 Param#4 Function Name
01534118 00000000 0A87E5A0 00000002 00000000 00000002 !sTexture::Release

These errors seem to be related to sound and texture (graphics?).

These are not easy to reproduce, infact using a previous save (about an hour earlier) I was able to continue and end the patrol. But using the latest save, the error happened within a couple of minutes. So I had to abandon this save (after I had torpedoed two ships in a convoy :cry: ). But I have kept this save so I can try if the error happens again after the updates I have done.

So I have some attempts to do:
- try stock SHIII
- try without nodvd
- try the old in-patrol save (I must try this with all mods enabled otherwise it will crash)
- I will also try the small mission on the laptop to see if it crashes there too.

or maybe

- trash everything and go playing pinball and solitarie ??? :D :D

Thanks for support
Maraz

Maraz
05-30-07, 02:34 PM
Latest news is that I am experiencing exactly the same crash in the single mission with the corvettes in my other PC, a laptop with XP and ATI video card, so a completely different system.

So after all this crash may be not system-related. I am thinking it may be GWX related: I am using GWX ships and when one of them is hit, disaster seems to happen. But I cannot affirm this before I make furter tests. I must still find the time to install a stock version and make tests in this configuration, of course I won't be able to reproduce exactly the same mission because I will not have the corvette, but I will try with a similar unit.

Maraz

3Jane
05-30-07, 04:27 PM
I am currently having a very similar sounding problem with SHIII GWX on my recently upgraded system. I used to have a socket A sempron 3000+ with sata HDD and 2 Gb DDR. I though it would be a great idea to upgrade to an AM2 system with DDRII 800. Unfortunately not as things turned out.

My system:
AM2 AMD 64 Athlon 3200+
X2 Gb DDRII
ATI X800 XT
Audigy 2
MSI MB
X2 Maxtor SATA 1.50 Gb/s HDD.

The dvd, GWX setup files, mods and patches are exactly the same ones I used when I installed the game on my old system on which everything worked fine. Now, after between 30sec and four minutes, the whole system locks up completely. I thought this might just be a problem with the GWX installation or possibly some of the mods, but I have tried the stock 'vanilla' game with and without the 1.4b patch, sadly with the same result.
I have replaced all the GXW and mod files from different download sites incase they were corrupted. Both the HDD which I have tried the game on have been reformatted. I even went to the extent of stripping the system down and reassembling it and replacing the sata data cables. No improvement.
I thought possibly my Zone Alarm might be responsible, but it had caused no problems on my socket A system, so I couldn't see why it would start now. But I tried a fresh SHIII/GWXC installation after first uninstalling and stripping out any and all ZA files. With no improvement either. I have updated my MB chipset drivers, tried eight different versions of the Omega drivers, even though they worked fine on the old system. All my other games work fine such as Tomb Raider Legend, Myst 4 and 5 and others, no problems at all. The rest of the time my system works fine, no issues at all with any other applications or software. The O.S has been reloaded three times just in case.
Right the way through from vanilla to fully patched and modded GWX 1.03 the lock ups continued.
Is it just that SHIII/ GWX is incompatable with my system somehow or is there any way of fixing this. Please.......anyone :roll:

bigboywooly
05-30-07, 04:40 PM
Do you have a 64 bit operating system ?

3Jane
05-30-07, 04:45 PM
As far as I am aware, it's 32 bit. Windows XP Home with service pack 1. Thanks for the swift reponse.

bigboywooly
05-30-07, 04:48 PM
No worries
I know starforce wont work on a 64bit OS
The only way to get the game to play in that case is remove starforce :doh:

3Jane
05-30-07, 04:52 PM
Thanks. Seems like a very odd situation. I have contacted all the relevant manufacturers hoping they might be able to shed some light on this, but I am still awaiting any responses from them.

3Jane
05-31-07, 06:32 AM
Thanks. Seems like a very odd situation. I have contacted all the relevant manufacturers hoping they might be able to shed some light on this, but I am still awaiting any responses from them.



I'm sick, sick, sick, sick ,sick of this.:-?

GakunGak
05-31-07, 06:36 AM
Thanks. Seems like a very odd situation. I have contacted all the relevant manufacturers hoping they might be able to shed some light on this, but I am still awaiting any responses from them.



I'm sick, sick, sick, sick ,sick of this.:-?
I fully understand you, but I am unable to solve this....
Try at CNET forum.

3Jane
05-31-07, 07:53 AM
Thanks :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

3Jane
06-03-07, 12:40 AM
That's it, enough. Tried everything, nothing helps. Everything else works fine, it's only when this damned game is installed that things happen. Uninstalled, short of another complete hardware upgrade which may help, I think perhaps permanently :roll: