Are you also waiting for V1.3 to buy SH4??

[Wulfmann]

I have made myself promise I would not buy SH4 until I heard from the community it was stable and ran reasonably well in general.

I have maintained that and sill will not buy it until I hear it works.

While it might not reflect correctly as a poll because many waiting might not visit the SH4 forum as they wait (I hardly do) but for those that have not bought it but intend to when it is right this is your thread to say so.

Wulfmann

[daft]

Well, it is stable and runs reasonably well in general. That's my opinion. Now go out and buy it. ;)

[Axlwolf]

I'm waiting... :ping:

[Wulfmann]

Well, it is stable and runs reasonably well in general. That's my opinion. Now go out and buy it. ;)

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I do not have time to copy them nor is there space on any server yet devised to handle the number of links to threads that would dispute that post!:nope:

Wulfmann

[TDK1044]

It's very stable and runs like a dream on my system. If you play at 100 percent realism though, then I'd wait for patch 1.3 in order to be able to play the sim and really enjoy it.

[Gizzmoe]

Well, it is stable and runs reasonably well in general. That's my opinion. Now go out and buy it. ;)
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I do not have time to copy them nor is there space on any server yet devised to handle the number of links to threads that would dispute that post!:nope:

Wulfmann
It runs very stable on my system and I find it very enjoyable with some mods installed. SH4 v1.0 was a horrible mess, v1.2 plus TM or RFB and some other mods is good.

[switch.dota]

Well, it is stable and runs reasonably well in general. That's my opinion. Now go out and buy it. ;)

:nope:
I do not have time to copy them nor is there space on any server yet devised to handle the number of links to threads that would dispute that post!:nope:

Wulfmann
Agreed there.

[daft]

Well, it is stable and runs reasonably well in general. That's my opinion. Now go out and buy it. ;)
:nope:
I do not have time to copy them nor is there space on any server yet devised to handle the number of links to threads that would dispute that post!:nope:

Wulfmann

Well, in all honesty you could try all you want to disprove that SH4 is both stable and runs reasonably well for me. There simply is no way to disprove it since that is my experience with the game so far. If you for some reason don't want to buy the game, that is of course your choice. Thanks for sharing your intentions though. :up:

[Rose]

It is a stable and enjoyable game. Now go buy it.

[Skipbo]

From my experience with SHIV, your criteria have already been met with version 1.2 and one of the mod-packs...........Skipbo

[TDK1044]

I have a mid range system and I've played 70 plus hours of SH4 (1.2) with zero CTDs and no issues with saving games. As Gizz says, 1.2 modded is good, stable and playable.....perfect it isn't. We're all hoping that 1.3 will take it from good to very good.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Well, it is stable and runs reasonably well in general. That's my opinion. Now go out and buy it. ;)
:nope:
I do not have time to copy them nor is there space on any server yet devised to handle the number of links to threads that would dispute that post!:nope:

Wulfmann
It runs very stable on my system and I find it very enjoyable with some mods installed. SH4 v1.0 was a horrible mess, v1.2 plus TM or RFB and some other mods is good.

This:up:

RDP

[GTHammer]

Ok well so far my experiences have been mixed but positive. I've experienced probably 3 ctd's and a few larger bugs which have f-ed up my patrols in my 50+(just a guess) hours of play. The game is a bit slow for me but my comp is a couple years old and isn't exactly top knotch. The big thing for me is that I didn't run off to Best Buy and get this game for $54.99. I bought my copy off eBay for (After shipping) a grand total of $32.00. It arrived 7 days later(Media mail is a bit slow) and despite some of the issues it has been a worthwhile purchase that I see only getting better with time/patches/mods. Hell I might even upgrade the comp a bit just for this game. Those my thoughts...

[The Avon Lady]

No CTDs yet running SH4 1.2 on a Dell Lattitude D820 notebook with an officially non-supported nVidia graphics chipset.

Plays like a charm. Patch 1.3 will be the icing on the cake.

[Wulfmann]

Well, that is all great news as all I see when I come to this forum is horrible stories and rants of mobs organizing to burn down UBI and all!!!:rotfl:

I will still wait for 1.3 to solve the many things the devs admit. After all, it will be as much the first time then as today when I take to the big water.

Nice to see you are still around AL and now in the service of the Stars and Stripes:up:

Wulfmann

[TDK1044]

Well, that is all great news as all I see when I come to this forum is horrible stories and rants of mobs organizing to burn down UBI and all!!!:rotfl:

Wulfmann

Sadly, we do have that element here....not in great numbers though. They soon get fed up with the lack of support they get here and they go elsewhere to find other petulent children.

Being critical of Ubisoft is understandable, but ranting, hysterical threads are not wanted here.

[daft]

Sadly, we do have that element here....not in great numbers though. They soon get fed up with the lack of support they get here and they go elsewhere to find other petulent children.

Being critical of Ubisoft is understandable, but ranting, hysterical threads are not wanted here.

Hear, hear. The game has issues, that's obvious. But I've had great fun with it since day one. Patch 1.3 will hopefully make it even more enjoyable. :)

[The Avon Lady]

Nice to see you are still around AL and now in the service of the Stars and Stripes:up:
I just hope my phoney German accent, which I can't seem to shake off, doesn't land me in the brig. :dead:

[GSpector]

Now, if anyone should complain about bad performance, it's me since I am using a GeForce 5700LE (256 MB), but I can't complain.

I actually enjoy this Sim. Obviously, the frame rate is low but playable. I've only had an issue with the tail end sinking after the conning tower was damaged, so yes, there are minor problems out of the box.

I am still very glad bought this Sim.

I think the problem with CTD has more to do with System conflicts with the Sim then the Sim itself.

Post your Specs and see if anyone else has the same Specs. Those are the people that will let you know if the Sims worth getting or if something needs to be upgraded.

[SirMoric]

Works fine for me, okay graohics and all-round good gameplay.

Gameplay even got better after I started 100 pct realism....

But I'd like they fix the gameplay bugs, which in my opinion is the biggest killer, I don't mind if they don't fix the graphical ones.

And yes, I'm playing on a laptop with all effect at 100 pct and very high resolution. Granted, I just bought a brand new laptop with state of the art hardware to haul with me when visiting friends for LAN.

rgds

[GnarPow]

Post 1.2 this game is extemely stable and I play it on a laptop with no issues. I have had an occasional CTD but I blame that not on the game but the lack of cooling efficiency in my laptop and I know others have had similiar issues.

The only CTDs really around now are because this game is extemely GPU and CPU intensive so you computer might say it has had enough every so often.

[Snuffy]

SHIV runs a charm on my system.
Never CTD yet. I've experienced a few graphical stutters but I think that's because of the settings I use and the amount of information the system was tasked to process.

I run a SLI nVida 7600GS with 512megs each.

[kylania]

I've run the game on...

1. Lenovo T-60 laptop (Vista, Centrio Dual something, 1GB, ATI Mobility x1400 or something)
2. Dell Dimension 9200 or something (XP and Vista at different times, core duo 2.13/2GB/Nvidia 7900 or 8600)
3. homebuild (XP Core Duo 1.86, 1GB, ATI x1300)
4. another homebuild (P4 3GHz, 2GB, ATI x850)
5. Some other P4ish XP box my friend has

...and have had absolutely no problems with stock, 1.1 or 1.2 patches.

[Wulfmann]

I run CoD2 completely maxed so don't believe SH4 will be a problem and in fact it is why I will not bother to upgrade as i don't see anything else that is power draining that I want to run.
By today's standards I have a mid level system at best
But, for sake of comparison:

AMD 64x2 4600 2.4GHZ
Asus A8N-SLI Mobo
2X 1GB PC3200-DDR400 RAM
SB2 Audigy 5X1
X850XT 256MB (VC is only thing OCed)

CPU never hits 50C and VC never 70C with SH3 GWX running at Max

I might drop my almost never used 3500 64 SC in my email PC and use the X850XT in that and up the VC in the 4600 rig but the longer I wait the cheaper DX9 VCs will be.

Wulfmann

[THE_MASK]

By the time i have saved up for my 2 gigs of memory for my laptop they should have 1.3 finished . Then i will buy SH4 . :yep:

[java`s revenge]

I am also waiting.

It scared me that the customers have to beg for a patch.
They have to sell a 100% game.

So i am still playing shIII + GWX.

[John Channing]

This rapidly growing urban myth that Ubisoft made anyone beg for a patch is really starting to irk me.

If you read the various posts by UbiSoft community managers nowhere does it state that people had to beg for anything What it said was that the people who make the financial decisions had to be convinced that a 3rd patch was required.

Now how could this be? How could they not know?

Well, given the level of irresponsible, jeuvenile comments that flooded the UbiSoft site (and here) post 1.0 release it was almost impossible to sort out what was a real bug, what was someone expecting it to be the same as Sh3, what was someone whinning because they didn't get the feature they wanted and what was a minor issue that could easily be modded by the community. Several of us here at Subsim worked for days to sort out a real bug list for the developers for 1.2 and believe me, it wasn't easy sorting out the wheat from the chaff.

PLUS...

If you go to the bug list that was prepared from the posts by this community pre 1.2 you will find that almost all of the issues that were so vitally important back then were indeed addressed by 1.2

So given the above it is completely understanable that, if your responsibility is the bottom line, then you might truly wonder if 1.3 is really necessary. But instead of just saying "That's it... shut 'er down", Ubisoft comes back to the community with 2 requests...

1) Convince us that there are real problems that need to be fixed and...

2) Give us a list of the top 10 remaining issues.

But insead of embracing this as an opportunity to really fix this game once and for all, the "community" does exactly what it always does... it went APE***T.

Boycottts, threats of lawsuits, stupid immature polls, name calling... all of the foolishness that caused UbiSoft to question whether 1.3 was really needed in the first place.

If it wasn't for Neal's efforts here and a few people on the UbiSoft site, I doubt that we would have seen a 1.3

So let's can the "made us beg" nonsense, and recognize that UbiSoft did exactly what we all want them to do... interact with the community, listen to the community and respond to our requests.

JCC

[joea]

Well said John!!! :know:

[Wulfmann]

Well said John!!! :know:
Second that thought!

I just realized this my 883rd post.
DD883 was the USS Newman K Perry which my father served on post WWII.
While he served on many ships including an S-Boat prewar and was at Pearl Harbor on Dec 7, 1941 (on the USS Sacramento) I have his Mediterranean cruiser book from the Perry and that is why I think of it as more "his" ship.
Also it is Memorial Day so the irrelevant to anyone else my 883 post on this day seems kinda special as well.

Wulfmann

[Paul Roberts]

I'll buy it after 1.3 is out.

[Sailor Steve]

I'll buy it as soon as I have a place to set up my computer. I would have bought it on the day of release, but it's kind of silly to buy something you can't play at all.:dead:

[TDK1044]

Buy it. Patch it. Mod it. Enjoy it. Then wait for patch 1.3. :D

[SUBMAN1]

It's very stable and runs like a dream on my system. If you play at 100 percent realism though, then I'd wait for patch 1.3 in order to be able to play the sim and really enjoy it.

Exactly my problem. At 100%, and things clearly broken, I hope you are good at guestimates since that is how you have to fire torps - through guesses. Of course if you like tracking your quary for days on end before setting up and firing, then you can mathmatically calculate speed, etc. Problem comes with task forces - you don't get a second chance - fire on guesstimate and pray you guessed proper speed, etc.

-S

[Wulfmann]

Except for initial learning the game when I stated at 72% for one career than everything but outside camera on the next career I have always played SH3 at 100%.

I intend on starting SH4 at 100% and never less so I guess I need to wait for 1.3.

Wulfmann

[BowHunter]

Have been looking forward to this game, but since I don't have a lot of time to play, I'm not willing to put up with the hassles I've read about. If they come out with a boxed version of software containing the hoped for V1.3 patch, I will immediately go out and buy the game.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Welcome:up: BowHunter

RDP

[Greentimbers]

Have been looking forward to this game, but since I don't have a lot of time to play, I'm not willing to put up with the hassles I've read about. If they come out with a boxed version of software containing the hoped for V1.3 patch, I will immediately go out and buy the game.
Welcome!

I doubt UBI will ever reissue the game with the patches included, that said, it is not hard to install the patches. The patches include all previous work so all you need is the latest one to be up to date.

Cheers

SHIV, Great game, warts and all.:up:

[macky]

If it helps I have, I believe, a low range system by todays standards.

2.9Ghz P4 (just 1 core :p )
1.5Gb Corsair RAM
GEOFORCE 7600 with 512mb ram(bought so I could play this game as my radeon 9600 sucked)

and I can confirm there are no issues on running SH4.

Not had a DC, apart from the 1st patch which we inherited the "A" CTD error from.

Hence the game is very playable. Therefore by waiting for the 3rd patch to come out is pointless imo. Although I never play at 100% realism so I cannot say for that.

[Binky1st]

Its still too Buggy and will be yet another dead Ubisoft game til they fix it, save you money and buy something else imho.

[AkbarGulag]

Well, considering the length of time the games been out and the number of patches, released in said short time, its clear ubisoft is serious about making this game truly awesome. I cant believe the stresses here, if you want half hearted support, you could have bought Medieval2 :o. Ubisoft seems almost as serious about its games as Anet.

I loved Silent Hunter (C64)... these games just get better. Im in :rock:

[AVGWarhawk]

I would buy now. The game is stable. Game play is good. I'm enjoying the heck out of the S-class.

[Jaber]

It's very stable and runs like a dream on my system. If you play at 100 percent realism though, then I'd wait for patch 1.3 in order to be able to play the sim and really enjoy it.

Exactly my problem. At 100%, and things clearly broken, I hope you are good at guestimates since that is how you have to fire torps - through guesses. Of course if you like tracking your quary for days on end before setting up and firing, then you can mathmatically calculate speed, etc. Problem comes with task forces - you don't get a second chance - fire on guesstimate and pray you guessed proper speed, etc.

-S

Not sure I agree here. I play 100% with RFB 1.27 and never have an issue with speed, even with task forces when quick speeds are necessary. By plotting out distance (while setting up your firing solution) you can have speed very close at the 1 or 2 min mark with it nailed spot on by 3mins. Set max/2 as start, mark 0 spot and start timer. Then modify your speed (if necessary) each min. Very quick and works well while working up your firing solution/position.

Buy the game. 1.2 works well with mods like RFB and TM and is very stable even on my mid range computer. There will always be a bunch of people point screaming at the flaws; seems we always key in on that 1% of negative and ignore the 99% positive.

[AVGWarhawk]

It's very stable and runs like a dream on my system. If you play at 100 percent realism though, then I'd wait for patch 1.3 in order to be able to play the sim and really enjoy it.
Exactly my problem. At 100%, and things clearly broken, I hope you are good at guestimates since that is how you have to fire torps - through guesses. Of course if you like tracking your quary for days on end before setting up and firing, then you can mathmatically calculate speed, etc. Problem comes with task forces - you don't get a second chance - fire on guesstimate and pray you guessed proper speed, etc.

-S


Not sure I agree here. I play 100% with RFB 1.27 and never have an issue with speed, even with task forces when quick speeds are necessary. By plotting out distance (while setting up your firing solution) you can have speed very close at the 1 or 2 min mark with it nailed spot on by 3mins. Set max/2 as start, mark 0 spot and start timer. Then modify your speed (if necessary) each min. Very quick and works well while working up your firing solution/position.

Buy the game. 1.2 works well with mods like RFB and TM and is very stable even on my mid range computer. There will always be a bunch of people point screaming at the flaws; seems we always key in on that 1% of negative and ignore the 99% positive.

I agree hear also. The TDC is very good if you use it correctly. Last night I have a text book torp sinking. It was a beautiful thing. I do not need the chronometer. The top AOB outline of the target should remain constant to what you physically see, if not, your speed is to great or too slow depending on how it changed over time from initial set up. Once it matches exactly with what his happening outside in the scope view, the TDC is set. Solution is good. The only thing I use the chrono for is timing my dives.

The game is great. 1.3 will make it even better.

[ReallyDedPoet]

I'm enjoying the heck out of the S-class.
Never thought I would enjoy the S Boats, but I do, great dive times:up:

RDP

[AVGWarhawk]

I'm enjoying the heck out of the S-class.
Never thought I would enjoy the S Boats, but I do, great dive times:up:

RDP
She is ugly and slow and did I mention ugly? Really, only the aft section is ugly. She dives great!! Did my first patrol in the S last night. Perfect text book torpedoing of a merchant. Never did that in the other subs. I'm mean perfect shot, one torp to just after the stack and the vessel went down. It was very gratifying. I will be out again tonight with the old S. She is just so simple and spars with things. You really feel you are half way sunk motoring around in the S.

[John Channing]

The Japanese Empire is learning to fear S-37.

Coming soon to an ocean near you.

JCC

[Bort]

Its still too Buggy and will be yet another dead Ubisoft game til they fix it, save you money and buy something else imho.
I could not disagree with you more. Everyone complains about how terrible the game is and how much it crashes and every other little imperfection that this game has. Yes, some aspects of this game are not functioning as of now, but in general, most of these things are fixed by the truly dedicated modders that we have here at Subsim.

I also don't think that the "save your money, buy something else" statement works here seeing as there is no other game that can match SH4 right now, no other WWII pacific subsims available, SH4 is what we have and you have to believe in it and that it can and will improve.

Finally, you say that this game will be "dead" if Ubisoft doesn't fix it. Right now, this game looks very alive to me. There are many mods available that can vastly improve stock SH4 and if there are so many people playing and modding this game, how can it be dead? Ubisoft has also, as I'm sure you know, said that they are already working on a fix for SH4. SH4 is in the process of being fixed and all that it takes is a little dab of patience to see that this game will come out amazing.

/Anti anti-SH4 rant

[daft]

I could not disagree with you more. Everyone complains about how terrible the game is and how much it crashes and every other little imperfection that this game has. Yes, some aspects of this game are not functioning as of now, but in general, most of these things are fixed by the truly dedicated modders that we have here at Subsim.

I also don't think that the "save your money, buy something else" statement works here seeing as there is no other game that can match SH4 right now, no other WWII pacific subsims available, SH4 is what we have and you have to believe in it and that it can and will improve.

Finally, you say that this game will be "dead" if Ubisoft doesn't fix it. Right now, this game looks very alive to me. There are many mods available that can vastly improve stock SH4 and if there are so many people playing and modding this game, how can it be dead? Ubisoft has also, as I'm sure you know, said that they are already working on a fix for SH4. SH4 is in the process of being fixed and all that it takes is a little dab of patience to see that this game will come out amazing.

/Anti anti-SH4 rant

Well spoken. To be honest, I've gotten more enjoyment out of SH4 this far than I ever got out of SH3. And I really like SH3. Hopefully WotP will get even better once 1.3 comes around. :)

[hobnailboot]

I have only used sh4 a dozen times. One one patrol having sank a battleship, two destroyers and several merchants without the escorts batting an eyelid, I became bored. So at the moment I am back with sh3 GWX.
I am not sure if things have improved at the moment but when/if the next patch comes out I will give it another try. But at the end of the day the U-boat war gives me a greater feeling of danger, knowing that the British navy will hunt my sorry *ss. That is my 2 pence worth.

[NefariousKoel]

I have only used sh4 a dozen times. One one patrol having sank a battleship, two destroyers and several merchants without the escorts batting an eyelid, I became bored. So at the moment I am back with sh3 GWX.
I am not sure if things have improved at the moment but when/if the next patch comes out I will give it another try. But at the end of the day the U-boat war gives me a greater feeling of danger, knowing that the British navy will hunt my sorry *ss. That is my 2 pence worth.

There's a couple mods that will make the escorts more difficult. It makes a huge difference. The hard-code issue of whole convoys just stopping when the lead unit is sunk is to be fixed in 1.3 from the fix-list I saw. It doesn't happen too often for me so I don't worry too much about it since it's been confirmed.

[Stary Wuj]

I have SH4, but my friends are waiting for 1.3 patch.

Best Regards

Stary Wuj

[java`s revenge]

I am also waiting.

It scared me that the customers have to beg for a patch.
They have to sell a 100% game.

So i am still playing shIII + GWX.


Today i bought it, i had the last copy in the shop.
I am trusted that the game will become perfect.

[STEED]

I'm just playing on easy mode for now and so far it's running alright and when the 1.3 patch comes out time to move up the realism ladder. ;)

[UnSalted]

Kinda like waiting for a wife to come along that's a perfect 10, cooks like a famous chef, is a virgin and hates to talk.

You take the first one that fits one of the four and live happily everafter. :)

[java`s revenge]

You can`t compare.

When a game comes on the market it should be bugfree.
It`s always with bugs. But always later comes the patches.
Now what happened with SHIV wasn`t nice.
It looked like that the game wasn`t tested.


In the time of the Commodore c64 and amiga the games came perfect on the market.
In that days we never heared of patches.

[AVGWarhawk]

Kinda like waiting for a wife to come along that's a perfect 10, cooks like a famous chef, is a virgin and hates to talk.

You take the first one that fits one of the four and live happily everafter. :)


Well said and a good comparison:up: You forgot one thing, a flat head so you have a place to put your beer when....well use your imagination:roll:

[Weather-guesser]

Mods definately help until the next patch. I think you are stressing about the bugs too much. At least missing out :ping: