New to GWX...

[Javigato]

...and loving it!! So, I am on my first patrol, sailed on Sept. 1st 1939 at around 16:00 and currently is the early morning of Sept. 2nd., passed the Kiel Canal and moving North/West through the North Sea to go to my patrol grid, AM51. One question, when I hit F1 for the Help and more info, I see a tab for Germany's Enemies, but all I see is a bunch of commands (navigation ones I think, I don't have it in front of me right now)... shouldn't it already have Poland? Can I expect to see Britain and France by tomorrow (game time)?

Also, three other tabs with no info are: resupply info, and flotilla news 1 and 2... is that normal?

Thanks!

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Yes that is normal. Just click on the entries with your mouse.

Sink'em all!!!:arrgh!:

[Javigato]

That's what I mean, I click on Germany's Enemies, and a list of commands pops up to the right, but no enemies... with the other three, the resupply and news tabs, I click and the right panel is blank... no info at all!

[JScones]

That's what I mean, I click on Germany's Enemies, and a list of commands pops up to the right, but no enemies... with the other three, the resupply and news tabs, I click and the right panel is blank... no info at all!
Are you running SH3 with German text?

If so, have you installed patch v1.03? If so, are you running the Alternate Flotilla optional mod?

Basically versions of GWX earlier than 1.03 have erroneous German menu and Help files which cause the problem that you have outlined.

Now, if you are running with English text, then it is likely an installation problem. Perhaps you didn't disable all mods or rollback SH3Cmdr (if using) before installing GWX or a subsequent patch?

[Javigato]

That's what I mean, I click on Germany's Enemies, and a list of commands pops up to the right, but no enemies... with the other three, the resupply and news tabs, I click and the right panel is blank... no info at all! Are you running SH3 with German text?

If so, have you installed patch v1.03? If so, are you running the Alternate Flotilla optional mod?

Basically versions of GWX earlier than 1.03 have erroneous German menu and Help files which cause the problem that you have outlined.

Now, if you are running with English text, then it is likely an installation problem. Perhaps you didn't disable all mods or rollback SH3Cmdr (if using) before installing GWX or a subsequent patch?

Oh man, I was fearing it was an install problem :cry: I am running with English text, didn't have any mods prior to GWX other than SH3 Commander... which I think I did the roll back... but who knows for sure... so my steps were, clean SH3, patched to 1.4, SH3 Commander, played one game, deleted campaign, roll back, install GWX and patched to 1.03. Mmm, now I noticed that the tab with the U-Boat locations is also blank... does any one know of a workaround to get these to work?

[Jimbuna]

Did you install the Cfg file for Cmdr ? :hmm:

[Javigato]

Yea, I did replace the 4 GWX/SH3Commander files,

Randomised events.cfg
Ship displacements.cfg
Ship names.cfg
U-boat availability.cfg

According to the readme on GWX102+Cfg4SH3Cmdr.zip where I got them, those are the only ones there... are there any GWX/SH3C files I need in order to make those fields in the F1/Help work?

[Javigato]

I found the file that has this info, in my Ubi/SH3/Data/Menu folder, the file is en_help, I opened and the fields that I can't see in game show up in the file like below... any troubleshooters out there that can help a poor soul resolve it? Thanks a bunch!

# ENEMIES OF GERMANY
`C0xFFFFAAFF`ENEMIES OF GERMANY`C0x0`

Poland 1939 09/01 - 1945 08/14`C0x00CCFFFF`
Britain 1939 09/03 - 1945 08/14`C0x0`
France 1939 09/03 - 1940 06/25`C0x00CCFFFF`
Australia 1939 09/03 - 1945 08/14`C0x0`
India 1939 09/03 - 1945 08/14`C0x00CCFFFF`
New Zealand 1939 09/03 - 1945 08/14`C0x0`
South Africa 1939 09/06 - 1945 08/14`C0x00CCFFFF`
Egypt 1939 09/06 - 1945 08/14`C0x0`
Canada 1939 09/10 - 1945 08/14`C0x00CCFFFF`
Norway 1940 04/09 - 1945 08/14`C0x0`
Denmark 1940 04/10 - 1945 05/08`C0x00CCFFFF`
Netherlands 1940 05/10 - 1945 08/14`C0x0`
Belgium 1940 05/10 - 1945 08/14`C0x00CCFFFF`
Free French 1940 07/01 - 1944 10/22`C0x0`
Greece 1940 04/06 - 1945 05/08`C0x00CCFFFF`
Yugoslavia 1941 04/07 - 1941 04/17`C0x0`
Russia(USSR) 1941 06/22 - 1945 09/01`C0x00CCFFFF`
United States 1941 12/11 - 1945 08/14`C0x0`
Panama 1941 12/12 - 1945 08/14`C0x00CCFFFF`
Honduras 1941 12/13 - 1945 08/14`C0x0`
Uruguay 1942 02/15 - 1945 08/14`C0x00CCFFFF`
Mexico 1942 05/22 - 1945 08/14`C0x0`
Brasil 1942 08/22 - 1945 08/14`C0x00CCFFFF`
Italy 1943 09/09 - 1945 08/14`C0x0`
Colombia 1943 11/26 - 1945 05/08`C0x00CCFFFF`
Yugoslavia 1943 11/29 - 1945 05/07`C0x0`
France 1944 08/26 - 1945 05/08`C0x00CCFFFF`
Romania 1944 09/12 - 1945 08/14`C0x0`
Bulgaria 1944 09/09 - 1945 05/08`C0x00CCFFFF`
Finland 1944 09/15 - 1945 05/08`C0x0`
Albania 1944 11/30 - 1945 05/08`C0x00CCFFFF`
Hungary 1945 01/20 - 1945 05/08`C0x0`
Turkey 1945 03/02 - 1945 08/14`C0x00CCFFFF`
Argentina 1945 03/27 - 1945 08/14`C0x0`
Venezuela 1945 02/15 - 1945 08/14`C0x00CCFFFF`


# RESUPPLY INFO
`C0xFFFFAAFF`Milk Cow Ships and dates (DD/MM/YYYY)`C0x0`

Max Albrecht 05/01/1942 to 28/02/1944 El FerroL

Bessel 01/03/1940 to 21/12/1941 Vigo

Thalia 01/02/1940 to 28/12/1941 Cadiz

Corrientes 05/01/1941 to 06/05/1943 Canarias Islands

Charlotte Schliemann 22/06/1943 to 11/02/1944 South East of Mauritius

Brake 05/09/1943 to 11/03/1944 East of Madagascar



`C0xFFFFAAFF`Milk Cow Uboats and dates (DD/MM/YYYY)`C0x00CCFFFF`

U459 10/09/1942 to 10/02/1943 (GG89) South Atlantic`C0x0`

U460 05/09/1942 to 04/04/1943 (EH53) North Atlantic`C0x00CCFFFF`

U461 10/04/1942 to 04/12/1942 (CC61) North West Atlantic
U461 05/02/1943 to 26/03/1943 (DF67) South West of Azores`C0x0`

U463 05/06/1942 to 30/06/1943 (BD35) North Atlantic`C0x00CCFFFF`

U488 05/06/1943 to 26/04/1944 (DF67) South West of Azores`C0x0`


# UBOATs & DISTANCE INFO
`C0xFFFFAAFF`Max Speed Diving
Surface Submerged Depth Time`C0x0`

IIA 13.0kts 6.9kts 100m 35s`C0x00CCFFFF`
IID 12.7kts 7.9kts 125m 25s`C0x0`
VIIB 17.2kts 8.0kts 150m 30s`C0x00CCFFFF`
VIIC 17.0kts 7.6kts 150m 27s`C0x0`
VIIC/41 17.0kts 7.6kts 150m 27s`C0x00CCFFFF`
IXB 18.2kts 7.3kts 165m 35s`C0x0`
IXC 18.3kts 7.3kts 165m 37s`C0x00CCFFFF`
IXC/40 18.3kts 7.3kts 165m 37s`C0x0`
IXD2 19.2kts 6.9kts 165m 42s`C0x00CCFFFF`
XX1 15.6kts 17.5kts 210m 25s`C0x0`



`C0xFFFFAAFF`DISTANCE/24hs`C0x0`

01 kts = 024 nm = 044 km 11 kts = 264 nm = 489 km`C0x00CCFFFF`
02 kts = 048 nm = 089 km 12 kts = 288 nm = 533 km`C0x0`
03 kts = 072 nm = 133 km 13 kts = 312 nm = 578 km`C0x00CCFFFF`
04 kts = 096 nm = 178 km 14 kts = 336 nm = 622 km`C0x0`
05 kts = 120 nm = 222 km 15 kts = 360 nm = 667 km`C0x00CCFFFF`
06 kts = 144 nm = 267 km 16 kts = 384 nm = 711 km`C0x0`
07 kts = 168 nm = 311 km 17 kts = 408 nm = 756 km`C0x00CCFFFF`
08 kts = 192 nm = 356 km 18 kts = 432 nm = 800 km`C0x0`
09 kts = 216 nm = 400 km 19 kts = 456 nm = 845 km`C0x00CCFFFF`
10 kts = 240 nm = 444 km 20 kts = 480 nm = 889 km`C0x0`

1 kts = 1 nautical mile/h = 1852 meters = 1.15 miles = 6067 feet


# FLOTILLA NEWS I
`C0xFFFFAAFF`The Indian Ocean (10th Flotilla)`C0x0`
Start: February 1942, type IXC and IXD2 U-boats at Lorient, France.
After January 1943, like the historical Pre-Monsun Boats, you will start receiving SouthAtlantic grid references. Then, from July 1943, you will receive radio messages warningof the impending transfer to Penang, and finally, on 1 September 1943, your base will change to Penang, Japanese occupied Malaysia (new GWX base). On 1 November 1944your base changes now to Jakarta, Japanese occupied Dutch East Indies (new GWX base), until the end of the war.
Valid grids for Monsun scenario:

German names `C0x00CDFFFF`Grid**`C0x0` English names* `C0x00CDFFFF`Grid**`C0x0`
Indischer Ozean `C0x00CDFFFF`INDOZN`C0x0` Indian Ocean `C0x00CCFFFF`INDIAN`C0x0`
Westindischer Ozean `C0x00CDFFFF`W.INDOZN`C0x0` West Indian Ocean `C0x00CCFFFF`W.INDIAN`C0x0`
Suedindischer Ozean `C0x00CDFFFF`S.INDOZN`C0x0` South Indian Ocean `C0x00CCFFFF`S.INDIAN`C0x0`
Suedafrika `C0x00CDFFFF`S.AFRIKA`C0x0` South Africa `C0x00CCFFFF`S.AFRICA`C0x0`
Ostafrika `C0x00CDFFFF`O.AFRIKA`C0x0` East Africa `C0x00CCFFFF`E.AFRICA`C0x0`
Mosambik-Kanal `C0x00CDFFFF`MOSAMBIK`C0x0` Mozambique Channel `C0x00CCFFFF`MOSAMBIK`C0x0`
Ceylon `C0x00CDFFFF`CEYLON`C0x0` Ceylon `C0x00CCFFFF`CEYLON`C0x0`
Malidiven `C0x00CDFFFF`MALIDIVN`C0x0` Maldives `C0x00CCFFFF`MALDIVES`C0x0`
Malabarkueste `C0x00CDFFFF`MALABAR`C0x0` Malabarian Coast `C0x00CCFFFF`MALABAR`C0x0`
Arabisches Meer `C0x00CDFFFF`ARABMEER`C0x0` Arabian Sea `C0x00CCFFFF`ARABIAN`C0x0`
Golf von Bengalen `C0x00CDFFFF`BENGALEN`C0x0` Bay of Bengal `C0x00CCFFFF`BENGAL`C0x0`
Westaustralien `C0x00CDFFFF`W.AUST`C0x0` West Australia `C0x00CCFFFF`W.AUST`C0x0`
Suedaustralien `C0x00CDFFFF`S.AUST`C0x0` South Australia `C0x00CCFFFF`S.AUST`C0x0`
Tasmanische See `C0x00CDFFFF`TASMAN`C0x0` Tasman Sea `C0x00CCFFFF`TASMAN`C0x0`
Korallenmeer `C0x00CDFFFF`KORALSEE`C0x0` Coral Sea `C0x00CCFFFF`CORALSEA`C0x0`
Arafurasee `C0x00CDFFFF`ARAFURA`C0x0` Arafura Sea `C0x00CCFFFF`ARAFURA`C0x0`
Timorsee `C0x00CDFFFF`TIMORSEE`C0x0` Timor Sea `C0x00CCFFFF`TIMORSEA`C0x0`
Javasee `C0x00CDFFFF`JAVASEE`C0x0` Java Sea `C0x00CCFFFF`JAVASEA`C0x0`
Bandasee `C0x00CDFFFF`BANDASEE`C0x0` Banda Sea `C0x00CCFFFF`BANDASEA`C0x0`
Andamanensee `C0x00CCFFFF`ANDAMAN`C0x0` Andaman Sea `C0x00CCFFFF`ANDAMAN`C0x0`
Strasse von Malakka `C0x00CCFFFF`MALAKKA`C0x0` Strait of Malacca `C0x00CCFFFF`MALACCA`C0x0`
Makassarstrasse `C0x00CCFFFF`MAKASSAR`C0x0` Makassar Strait `C0x00CCFFFF`MAKASSAR`C0x0`
Golf von Siam `C0x00CCFFFF`GOLFSIAM`C0x0` Gulf of Siam `C0x00CCFFFF`GULFSIAM`C0x0`
Suedchinesisches Meer `C0x00CCFFFF`S.CHINA`C0x0` South China Sea `C0x00CCFFFF`S.CHINA`C0x0`
Celebessee `C0x00CCFFFF`CELEBES`C0x0` Celebes Sea `C0x00CCFFFF`CELEBES`C0x0`

*To utilise the English names, replace the default Flotilla.cfg and 4320_2160.raw files with the corresponding English files included with GWX.
**Please, note that due to Silent Hunter III limitations, RENOWN will NOT be awarded for reaching Indian Ocean/Black Sea patrol grid objectives. Renown, however, will be awarded for all other achievements.


# FLOTILLA NEWS II
`C0xFFFFAAFF`11th Flotilla`C0x0`
Start: June 1942, Type VIIC and VIIC/41 U-boats at Bergen, Norway, until war's end.
After Sept 1944 and mainly after January 1945 11th's U-boats were destined mainly toBritish east coast. Change your Uboat adequately to play this late war scenario usingthe most common Type VIIC/41, snorkel equipped U-boat.

`C0xFFFFAAFF`12th Flotilla`C0x0`
Start: January 1943, Type IXD2 U-boat at Bordeau, France.
End: August 1944, by disbanding. Most of the boats left for Flensburg.
GWX corrected 12th's grids destination and now you will go to the coasts of South America and South West Africa far more frequently.

`C0xFFFFAAFF`13th Flotilla`C0x0`
Start: June 1943, Type VIIC U-boat at Trondheim, Norway (new GWX base).
End: Remain until the end of the war.
After Sept 1944, the flotilla incorporated the boats from the disbanded French flotillas.
The 7th Flotilla will automatically transfer to the 13th Flotilla from August, 1944.

`C0xFFFFAAFF`23rd Flotilla`C0x0`
Start: October 1941, Type VIIB and VIIC U-boats at Salamis, Greece (new GWX base).
End: May 1942, automatic transfer to the 29th Flotilla at La Spezia, Italy.
The flotilla operated in the Eastern Mediterranean.

`C0xFFFFAAFF`The Black Sea (30th Flotilla)`C0x0`
Start: October 1942, Type IID U-boat at Constanza, Romania (new GWX base).
End: August 1944, automatic transfer to the 33rd Flotilla at Flensburg, Germany.
Valid grids for Black Sea scenario:

German names `C0x00CCFFFF`Grid**`C0x0` English names* `C0x00CCFFFF`Grid**`C0x0`
Schwarzes Meer West `C0x00CCFFFF`WEST`C0x0` Black Sea West `C0x00CCFFFF`WEST`C0x0`
Schwarzes Meer East `C0x00CCFFFF`OST`C0x0` Black Sea East `C0x00CCFFFF`EAST`C0x0`
Asowsches Meer' `C0x00CCFFFF`ASOW`C0x0` Sea of Azov `C0x00CCFFFF`AZOV`C0x0`

[Genghis Khan]

Uninstall SHIII Commander.Make a clean uninstall of SHIII,delete all remaining folders,registry entries.After that,reinstall a 1.4b patched SH3,then install GWX,after that- GWX 1.03 patch.In options menu select "English" for texts,keyboard.

[Javigato]

What are the registry entries? Are there any more other than the ones under local machine/software/Ubisoft?

I think I might do your suggestion Gengis, but I might wait a little since I am in the middle of a campaign, and really doesn't seem to be affecting it other than what I described... Thanks!

[Genghis Khan]

What are the registry entries? Are there any more other than the ones under local machine/software/Ubisoft?

No,should be the only registry entries,you mentioned.Just look up there for everything regarding SHIII,Ubisoft in Local Machine/Software and delete all items found.

Personally,I am nearly 100 percent sure that your problem will dissapear as soon as you start running GWX patched to 1.03 without SHIII Commander.Observations are based on my personal experience - I just run GWX v.1.03 on the clean 1.4b patched SHIII and everything works just fine.Read your post yesterday,and looked into those "F1" fields - everything is shown correctly,flotilla news,help issues,milk cow locations etc.

Well,the choice is always up to you.Good luck,Kaleun.:D :up:

[JScones]

I found the file that has this info, in my Ubi/SH3/Data/Menu folder, the file is en_help, I opened and the fields that I can't see in game show up in the file like below... any troubleshooters out there that can help a poor soul resolve it? Thanks a bunch!

# ENEMIES OF GERMANY
`C0xFFFFAAFF`ENEMIES OF GERMANY`C0x0`

...

German names `C0x00CCFFFF`Grid**`C0x0` English names* `C0x00CCFFFF`Grid**`C0x0`
Schwarzes Meer West `C0x00CCFFFF`WEST`C0x0` Black Sea West `C0x00CCFFFF`WEST`C0x0`
Schwarzes Meer East `C0x00CCFFFF`OST`C0x0` Black Sea East `C0x00CCFFFF`EAST`C0x0`
Asowsches Meer' `C0x00CCFFFF`ASOW`C0x0` Sea of Azov `C0x00CCFFFF`AZOV`C0x0`
You need to think a bit more laterally than this. ;)

Pls post your equivalent to the below, from en_menu.txt:

;Help items
3950=HELP
3951=NAVIGATION
3952=STATIONS
3953=OTHER CONTROLS
3954=ENEMIES OF GERMANY
3955=RESUPPLY INFO
3956=UBOATs & DISTANCE INFO
3957=FLOTILLA NEWS I
3958=FLOTILLA NEWS II
3960=CLOSE

Do this TWICE. The first time ensuring that SH3Cmdr has been rolled back first, and the second time with SH3Cmdr files installed (in other words, load SH3 via SH3Cmdr, then alt-tab back to Windows and check SH3's en_menu.txt).

If your results differ, well, you know what the problem is, LOL! ;)

If your results are the same, then, well, I will still bet it's an installation problem. What you are experiencing is NOT normal and is not experienced by players with a correct GWX installation.

PS: I've assumed that there was a lot more to the Help file than what you posted.

[Javigato]

Thanks JC Jones, I tried your idea, and the I get the same results, and the same as what you posted:

;Help items
3950=HELP
3951=NAVIGATION
3952=STATIONS
3953=OTHER CONTROLS
3954=ENEMIES OF GERMANY
3955=RESUPPLY INFO
3956=UBOATs & DISTANCE INFO
3957=FLOTILLA NEWS I
3958=FLOTILLA NEWS II
3960=CLOSE

I only included in my earlier post the sections I am having trouble with, the rest are cool. One thing, when I checked how the text showed here, and compared it against the en_help text file, the entries in the en_help seem kinda out of whack... meaning, for example in the list of enemies, the first few seem that they are with th same spaces in between country and dates, but then on some entries there's a bigger gap between the country and the dates... I don't suppose things like that could be causing the problem, right? I guess if someone can send me their en_help file I can compare it and see...

[JScones]

One thing, when I checked how the text showed here, and compared it against the en_help text file, the entries in the en_help seem kinda out of whack... meaning, for example in the list of enemies, the first few seem that they are with th same spaces in between country and dates, but then on some entries there's a bigger gap between the country and the dates... I don't suppose things like that could be causing the problem, right? I guess if someone can send me their en_help file I can compare it and see...
"Out of whack" is OK.

TBH I see two options:

1. Continue to add to the 36 hours waiting to figure out what's gone wrong, or
2. Trash the install and spend 10 minutes following the below steps:
0. Rollback SH3Cmdr
1. Uninstall SH3 via Windows' "Add/Remove programs"
2. Open Windows Explorer and:
- *delete* the folder where you had installed SH3
- *delete* the \My Documents\SH3 folder
3. Reinstall SH3
4. If your SH3 did not come with patch v1.4b already included, install patch v1.4b. Ensure you install the patch that corresponds to your copy of SH3 (Download/DVD/EMEA/US)
5. OPTIONAL: Copy and paste this "clean" install as a backup to avoid the need to follow steps 1-3 if your game becomes corrupt in future
6. Visit the GWX homepage (http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/GWX/) and download into the SAME folder GWX.exe and the five .bin files. While there grab the v1.03 patch
7. Run GWX.exe and follow the installation prompts
8. Run GWX103.exe and follow the installation prompts
9. SH3 COMMANDER USERS: Visit the GWX homepage (http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/GWX/) and download the GWX 1.02+ Cfg files for SH3 Commander and unzip the contents DIRECTLY into your SH3 Commander\Cfg folder.

Your call though. ;)

[Javigato]

Thanks JC and Genghis, I will follow your recommendations and start over clean. I will follow your steps to uninstall (including deleting the registry entries) and install all of it clean... Thanks!

[JScones]

Thanks JC and Genghis, I will follow your recommendations and start over clean. I will follow your steps to uninstall (including deleting the registry entries) and install all of it clean... Thanks!
And if you undertake step 5, any subsequent angst will be lessened. ;)

[Javigato]

Ok, I am backing the clean/patched to 1.4 install of Sh3 to a disk. One question, I noticed that the fr_help and fr_menu are missing after patching (didn't check after clean install) I do have howver the engligh and german ones... is that normal?

Next, I am planning on installing SH3 Commander, then GWX. Is that the proper order, does it really matter? Thanks and sorry for all the (possibly really dumb) questions! :)

[Jimbuna]

I'd install GWX first :yep:

[Javigato]

Thanks Jim, I will follow your recommended order... do you know if missing the fr_help and fr_menu files from the install will cause problems running the game? I noticed they are missing after patching.

[Jimbuna]

When you install the GWX you should run the JSGME embedded within the file once to create a 'MODS' folder. You should see a choice called 'Fix French'.
If they're not then I'm afraid I'm stumped mate. lets hope Jaesen comes along soon :hmm:

[Javigato]

Hey, what do you know, installed GWX and the fr_help and fr_menu files are now there... I think I am good. Off to patch GWX to 1.03 now, and the SH3 Commander... Thanks a bunch!

[Jimbuna]

Great...now go for it :up:

[Javigato]

Ok, did all the uninstall and install steps specified above. Clean Sh3 install, patch, install GWX, patch, install SH3 Commander. Started a new career via SH3C and I still the same problem!

So, when I hit F1, the first entries are cool, but once I hit Enemies of Germany, instead of getting the enemies (Sept 1st 1939, so it should be Poland at this time) I get the keyboard entries for Time Compression, Even Camera, Periscope and Snorkel Control, and Free Camera Control... :hmm:

Then I get nothing for Resupply Info, Uboat & Distance Info, Flotilla News I and Flotilla News II.

I can see how maybe the last ones are not applicable this early, and hence could possible be blank at this moment in the war, but the Enemies of Germany weirdness puzzles me...

Other than that, the game is running great, and I don't see anything else unusual...

[JScones]

When you install the GWX you should run the JSGME embedded within the file once to create a 'MODS' folder. You should see a choice called 'Fix French'.
If they're not then I'm afraid I'm stumped mate. lets hope Jaesen comes along soon :hmm:
The fr files are not included in stock SH3. French language support was a half-finished inclusion to patch 1.4b. The files are usually installed as part of a specific French language pack (the French community had to essentially finish the feature). As SH3 does, however, support the third language (as opposed to all other languages which are simply en replacements), GWX included a French translation by default.

Re your problem Javigato, I have no idea. But it's 100% GUARANTEED to be an installation problem, otherwise 10,000 other players would have noticed it. I certainly don't have the problem.

[Javigato]

Yea, I suppose it must be an install problem, otherwise like you said, it would be more than 1 person with the problem... The weird thing is that the files the screen is referencing (en_help and en_menu) seem ok... I wonder if I need to look somewhere else, I hope there's a way to manually fix it...

Thanks!

[Javigato]

You know, I was thinking, I ran the SH3 installer with my normal user, I did not specify to run as the Administrator, then for the 1.4 patch, I had to run it as the Administrator, otherwise the patch did not recognize the SH3 version. Then for GWX and SH3Commander, I ran them as the normal user, not Administrator.

Do you guys think this could be it? That unless I run everything as the administrator the installs are suspect? Just wondering, since I am running out of ideas after looking and relooking at the files hoping to find the problem :oops:

[Jimbuna]

I would recommend you go back to post #14 and follow the instructions to the letter as an administrator on your computer. :yep:

[Javigato]

Thanks Jim, I will try that and see if it resolves it.

[Javigato]

Back in this post... :) Uninstalled and reinstalled as directed in post 14. I did again the clean install of Sh3, this time made sure I ran it as Administrator, reboot, install patch 1.4 also as Administrator, reboot, ran GWX as Administrator, reboot, ran GWX patch 1.03 as Administrator and rebooted.

This time I decided NOT to install SH3Commander, just to see if I can start ruling things out, and I can confirm that the problem is not SH3Cmdr related, because I have the same issue with GWX 1.03 and no SH3Cmdr.

As a precaution, I verified the installers and bins, and all checked out prior to installs... I really don't know at this point what can be causing this, and how to correct it, especially since I am the only one with this problem... :damn:

The good news is that the game runs fine, so that's cool, and this missing fields in the F1 are not "required" and I should just let go and enjoy the awesome game this is with GWX :D

Thanks to all that have chipped in so far to help me out, I really appreciate it, and if someone has any other ideas, please let me know.

[Javigato]

I'm getting annoying, aren't I? ;) So, does the F1 list of options/info really read off of the en_help file? I just tried modifying some entries in the en_help file to see if they show up in game when I hit F1, but they don't, the lists are the same as prior to making the changes, so me thinks the F1 information is being read from somewhere else... Any ideas?

[JScones]

You know, I was thinking, I ran the SH3 installer with my normal user, I did not specify to run as the Administrator, then for the 1.4 patch, I had to run it as the Administrator, otherwise the patch did not recognize the SH3 version. Then for GWX and SH3Commander, I ran them as the normal user, not Administrator.

Do you guys think this could be it? That unless I run everything as the administrator the installs are suspect? Just wondering, since I am running out of ideas after looking and relooking at the files hoping to find the problem :oops:
As per the SH3Cmdr help file, you MUST run it under the Administrator account.

You MUST also install GWX under the Administrator account.

[JScones]

I'm getting annoying, aren't I? ;) So, does the F1 list of options/info really read off of the en_help file?
Ummm, yeeessss...

A fundamental question, how many installs of SH3 do you have? If more than one, are you sure you are running the one you installed GWX into? You certainly wouldn't be the first to say no. ;)

Failing that, email me your en_menu and en_help files (email address is in ther SH3Cmdr Help file). I'll have a look.

[Javigato]

Morning JS, I only have one install of SH3, and this last time I did everything as Admin. Anyway, sending you an email with the files. I appreciate your help!

[JScones]

OK, this is Vista related (guys, pls specify if you are using Vista when posting problems as it DOES make a difference).

I'm posting this here as I don't use Vista, so can't help much further.

Basically, SH3 is ignoring the installed files and referencing a cache storage of the original files. I am aware that this can happen with Vista thanks to its permission based approach. Indeed, I can recall that some players here have experienced this very problem. However, what I can't recall is how it has been fixed.

So, hopefully someone here can recall and find the thread/post that provides the answer.

[Javigato]

Thanks JS! Silly Vista :D Anyway, like you said, hopefully someone will see this and point me in the right direction about this. Thanks again.

[bigboywooly]

I take it you have looked through this thread ?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=105144

[Javigato]

Yep re-reading again now, and I have a suspicion as to why this is happening, like JS said Vista is probably not recognizing the new en_help and en_menu files... why? Well, this whole time I have kept a folder in the desktop named "SilentHunter Stuff" and that's where I kept the exe's for GWX, SH3Cmdr and some backed-up files (perhaps even en_help and en_menu, not sure)... so when I uninstalled and removed everything related to SH3, I never touched the desktop folder, since I needed to install the mods... so with VISTA as picky as it seems to be, I think I need to keep that folder somewhere else (burn it to a CD or DVD or something like that), so when I uninstall again it has NOTHING what-so-ever in the harddrive related to Sh3. Then install again, making sure to run everything as Admin.

The weird thing is that when I checked those two files in the Sh3 directory they looked like the GWX files, but as JS pointed out to me, when I attached them to an email and he opened them, they were the stock files.... so weird.

Well, I will try this tonight, I'll let you know how it goes, hopefully I can report some good news!

Thanks again to all.

[Javigato]

Also after uninstalling, I think I will do some disk clean-up and see if I can get rid of any files that are cached...

[Javigato]

I am pleased to announced I got it to work properly!! Did all the things I mentioned, and now everythings seems cool with the F1. Sounds like it was Vista's indexing and caching causing to reference (some) of the original SH3 files instead of using the new GWX files.

Thanks to all of you who have helped me with this, I really appreciate, you guys are the best!

[Jimbuna]

Glad to hear your sorted :up:

[theroc44]

hey guys i read thru the posts and i am using vista and only gwx3 im having the same problem. Im not exactly sure how he corrected this can someone help me with this thanks guys.