View Full Version : would you pay for a expansion including 1.3
the_belgian
05-23-07, 12:02 PM
would you pay for patch 1.3 as part of an "expansion" pack including other vessels and such?
I would(as i did by SH3)!
AVGWarhawk
05-23-07, 12:05 PM
Yep.....
I would pay for an expansion. If it ships patch 1.3, the better then:up:
Well, if the expansion pack had some really cool stuff, then yes I would.
But!
I think after the Foo Pah on Ubi's part some compensation is in order, perhaps a light priceing index would be nice with the patch included.
Would be a good money making scheme for them though, business is rough gotta make them bonz
Charlie
kakemann
05-23-07, 12:10 PM
I would pay for a expansion, but not a patch - should be released anyway!
To quote Dowly if I may.... "of course not!"
Sonarman
05-23-07, 12:13 PM
Yes, In fact I would pay for four different ones! This may be a much better way of getting Ubi to fix SH4 taking a "carrot instead of the stick" approach. It would also mean that "our" devteam would not be split up as happened after SH3 development finished.
I would like expansion packs which offered:
wolfpack attacks
playable Japanese units
playable destroyers
all submarine comparments modelled
U-Bones
05-23-07, 12:18 PM
Just a small quibble.
The initial release needs to be patched before UBI ever gets a dime from me again. Good faith goes only so far.
So, NO.
But I would buy any and all expansions after a good patch.
the_belgian
05-23-07, 12:24 PM
An expansion doesn't neccesarely have to be from UBI,Grey wolves(as far as i know)was also not from UBI,although it has a link to the SH3 1.4 patch.
If the content seems interesting I would buy it.
MemoryLeaK
05-23-07, 12:29 PM
I can't beleive you would empower these people even more than what has already been done by telling them you would pay them for defrauding you. I have an empty box I would like to sell, if past posts are any indication I can sell it here.
U-Bones
05-23-07, 12:34 PM
An expansion doesn't neccesarely have to be from UBI,Grey wolves(as far as i know)was also not from UBI,although it has a link to the SH3 1.4 patch.
Even though it is massive, and includes new content, I think of GW as a mod, not an expansion, with no offense intended. I guess simply because it started as a lot if independant mods, ideas and discoveries, and then reached a critical mass and congealed into this new uberborg mod expansion thingie. I'm not sure exactly when it became self aware.
But point taken.
GWX is an expansion with various mods included, as over a million lines of code were written to accomplish this. It was no small task by the GWX Dev team.
I would pay for 1.5/expansion on SH3... :up:
I would pay for an expansion if the major problems were fixed prior to its release. I have purchased two copies of SH4, that is enough support from me.
Now I do like the concept behind Steel Beast 2 PE, a modern tank sim I just love. The price is $125 and it uses a dongle for protection, you can load it on a 1000 pc's but without the dongle no play.
Along, with the game you get ongoing support, patches addons etc. This concept works for niche market type sims.
I support all sims that deliver, I do not expect perfection, nor that they be bug free, but I do expect support and patches as this is what the PC game market has become. Release a Beta and patch it into a finished product with the consumer being patient and understanding. With that said, I will refrain from any negativity. Its in UBI's court now, the consumers have spoken.
Wilcke
DJSatane
05-23-07, 01:32 PM
Yes, however I would buy it from a store where I can return it for credit/cash because I would suspect the product wouldnt be finished and require patches of its own.
robbierob2005
05-23-07, 01:37 PM
no!!
Spartan
05-23-07, 01:52 PM
This post is a joke right? Pay again for them to fix what they should have had working in the initial release? I think not. Moreover if they have any plans on releasing an expansion pack they had better fix the base package. If they do so without fixing it I will make sure the X-pack as well as the game with a fully cracked application file is the number one downloaded file for at least the first couple days of its release on major torrent sites both public and private that I'm aware of. This is no idle threat or rant. I have the bandwidth, knowledge and connections as well as the money to make it happen. I spent well over $2000 to return the slap in the face Creative Assembly and Activision gave the Total War community and I will think nothing about doing it to UBI because they are of the same ilk.
mookiemookie
05-23-07, 01:54 PM
I'd pay more than the usual $50 for a product that works as intended out of the box, with a robust and informative manual.
If they do so without fixing it I will make sure the X-pack as well as the game with a fully cracked application file is the number one downloaded file for at least the first couple days of its release on major torrent sites both public and private that I'm aware of. This is no idle threat. I have the bandwidth, knowledge and connections as well as the money to make it happen. I spent well over $2000 to slap Creative Assembly and Activision in the face before and I will think nothing about doing it to UBI because they are of the same ilk.
Keep s--t like this out of these forums.
I am not made of money.
NO.
GakunGak
05-23-07, 02:15 PM
This post is a joke right? Pay again for them to fix what they should have had working in the initial release? I think not. Moreover if they have any plans on releasing an expansion pack they had better fix the base package. If they do so without fixing it I will make sure the X-pack as well as the game with a fully cracked application file is the number one downloaded file for at least the first couple days of its release on major torrent sites both public and private that I'm aware of. This is no idle threat. I have the bandwidth, knowledge and connections as well as the money to make it happen. I spent well over $2000 to slap Creative Assembly and Activision in the face before and I will think nothing about doing it to UBI because they are of the same ilk.
It is best to keep this to yourself as you MAY find yourself in a brig...
:yep: :yep: :yep:
bruschi sauro
05-23-07, 02:15 PM
no no no no no no
the_belgian
05-23-07, 02:37 PM
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if so,why not use these in a positive way to the SH4-comunity.
btw;piracy is one of the courses dev's prefer low cost/high rendement games above high cost/low rendement sims!!!!!
GakunGak
05-23-07, 02:40 PM
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if so,why not use these in a positive way to the SH4-comunity.
btw;piracy is one of the courses dev's prefer low cost/high rendement games above high cost/low rendement sims!!!!!
Translation, please?:hmm:
Spartan
05-23-07, 02:42 PM
Keep s--t like this out of these forums.
You might think it is crap and that is your right, just as it is my right to express my opinion as long as it (and yours does not breach the ToS) With that said, I dont see how voicing my opinion in the manner I did comes even close to directly or indirectly violating any rules.
UBI is telling the community to bend over and take it like a man without preverbal lubricant yet again and people seem to have issues with consumers and very long term community members getting fed up with the crap and deciding to engage in a little civil disobedience and political activism - how sad, truly...
@ the_belgian (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=231879) - I have done so in the past many times over. The last major thing I did for the SS community that the average person may remember was develop a hires mod pack with some stalwart friends for SH2 (then gave it to WPL for exclusive distribution) after the developers said it was not possible due to some technical issues and other reasons.
BTW: They call it piracy when consumers use the product without a valid license. But they don’t have a name for it when they give us a license for a product that does not do what it is supposed to do - wait I think they do... They call it maximizing profits. I think the law calls it breach of contract. However the current legal system as well as purchasing systems are set up in such a way that the average consumer really has no recourse except to "try before they buy" in order to reasonable protect themselves from fraud and outright theft. Consumerism is a two-way street my friend.
Major Johnson
05-23-07, 02:46 PM
I voted yes, although I really do feel that Ubi needs to put the patch out first and fix everything that should be fixed, not just the top 10 issues. That's BS! It's called good business. But I would gladly purchase an expansion disk if it was ever produced. I've been an SH1 junkie since the beginning, and have been waiting 10 plus freakin' years for this game!
hamburger
05-23-07, 02:48 PM
my money for ubi?
no!
mookiemookie
05-23-07, 02:51 PM
Keep s--t like this out of these forums.
You might think it is crap and that is your right, just as it is my right to express my opinion as long as it (and yours does not breach the ToS)
It does, and it's not welcome here.
What is Subsim.com's stance in relation to warez and piracy?
SUBSIM Review has a longstanding policy against software piracy. We do NOT allow discussion or even mention of warez, abandonware, peer-to-peer game swapping, illegal download sites, or rip-off websites. Nothing will get you banned faster than pointing people to illegal software distribution sites. Don't ask for serial numbers, manuals, or cracks. Any admission that you have in your possession illegal software can and usually will result in revocation of your Radio Room forum account. Support computer game programmers buy legally purchasing their work. They have to eat too, you know.
theluckyone17
05-23-07, 02:53 PM
I would. My reasoning? If SH4 had retailed for $80 and did not have the majority of issues it has now, I'd have bought it. Even $100, or possibly more. So I wouldn't mind shelling out a bit more cash, if (and only if) I knew that the current issues were resolved.
Until I'm assured of that, I'm too irritated at Ubi to hand over any of my hard earned cash.
the_belgian
05-23-07, 02:57 PM
btw;piracy is one of the courses dev's prefer low cost/high rendement games above high cost/low rendement sims!!!!!
Translation, please?:hmm:
low cost/high sales numbers games = $$$$$$$$$$ :cool:
high cost/low sales numbers sims = $$$ :shifty:
GakunGak
05-23-07, 03:00 PM
btw;piracy is one of the courses dev's prefer low cost/high rendement games above high cost/low rendement sims!!!!!
Translation, please?:hmm:
low cost/high sales numbers games = $$$$$$$$$$ :cool:
high cost/low sales numbers sims = $$$ :shifty:
Wicked....:|\\
the_belgian
05-23-07, 03:00 PM
Keep s--t like this out of these forums.
You might think it is crap and that is your right, just as it is my right to express my opinion as long as it (and yours does not breach the ToS)
It does, and it's not welcome here.
What is Subsim.com's stance in relation to warez and piracy?
SUBSIM Review has a longstanding policy against software piracy. We do NOT allow discussion or even mention of warez, abandonware, peer-to-peer game swapping, illegal download sites, or rip-off websites. Nothing will get you banned faster than pointing people to illegal software distribution sites. Don't ask for serial numbers, manuals, or cracks. Any admission that you have in your possession illegal software can and usually will result in revocation of your Radio Room forum account. Support computer game programmers buy legally purchasing their work. They have to eat too, you know.
So,take evasive action!
you have my vote on that!
Spartan
05-23-07, 03:06 PM
It does, and it's not welcome here.
Sorry my friend maybe we have a different understanding of the English used in Neal's ToS. I did not name, talk about or mention any such sites nor did I point to any and I did not ask for any information related to such things and I did not claim to have any illegitimate products. Additionally for the record I fully support software developers that fully support the communities I belong to. Shoot many of my clients are such people.
mookiemookie
05-23-07, 03:07 PM
It does, and it's not welcome here.
Sorry my friend maybe we have a different understanding of the English used in Neal's ToS. I did not name, talk about or mention any such sites nor did I point to any and I did not ask for any information related to such things and I did not claim to have any illegitimate products. Additionally for the record I fully support software developers that fully support the communities I belong to. Shoot many of my clients are such people.
Dance around semantics all you want.
Canonicus
05-23-07, 03:31 PM
How much do they want?
GakunGak
05-23-07, 03:32 PM
How much do they want?
Just give them the money and they will tell you when to stop....:rotfl:
I spent well over $2000 to return the slap in the face Creative Assembly and Activision gave the Total War community and I will think nothing about doing it to UBI because they are of the same ilk.
May I ask what was the outcome of that?:hmm: If you "spent" it, looks to me as if you got no return :88)
Pay for a patch? Not in a hundred years.
Pay for an expansion that added new ships, proper aircraft for the PTO, and other things? Of course.
mookiemookie
05-23-07, 03:44 PM
proper aircraft for the PTO
That will never happen as the manufacturers of those aircraft would not give licenses for them to be used in the game.
Canonicus
05-23-07, 03:49 PM
Why don't we pool our resources, (as meager as they might be!), and buy the friggin SKD!
( mind you....I just might be a little intoxicated...at the moment)
Oops..my bad...... I meant SDK
proper aircraft for the PTO
That will never happen as the manufacturers of those aircraft would not give licenses for them to be used in the game.
Which is why Ubi should be banished from making PTO games in the future. It's precisely because of their stupidity (i.e., the Grumman fiasco) that we have a PTO game without core aircraft like the Dauntless and the Wildcat, and fake medals that are called "WWII medals" in the manual. Oh yes, the Dauntless and the Catalina, two aircraft slated for SH4, were neither designed by Grumman, nor were their design firms ever bought out by Grumman. Ubi is just running scared and using poor logic in matters like this.
The future of wargaming lies with smaller development houses like Storm Eagle Studios, Tripwire Interactive and Battlefront, not huge, faceless corporations like Ubi and EA that dump games on the market one day and abandon their development the next.
Spartan
05-23-07, 04:12 PM
@Mookie - You can call it semantics if you like I call it "deliberate speak" and it is exactly what the business world engages in every day except it is more focused on the "legal linguistics" elements of communication. With that said I have known Neal nearly ten years and if he feels my comments will hurt his business model, which I'm well aware depends somewhat on cozy relations with developers, then he is more than welcome to edit my posts.
Additionally some food for thought, I spent a couple hours today working with one of my clients from Canon who is a senior manager and tomorrow he as well as his division boss, Q&A manager, and promotional manager will visit one of their clients to offer a truly heartfelt apology for some bugs found in their software. The entire process will take nearly four hours and involve a few briefs and a demonstration of corrective measures that Canon will implement to try to prevent future bugs of that nature in its software. Moreover they will also inform the client that several employees have had pay reductions and a few have been terminated as repentance for the oversight.
Companies like Canon that take software development so seriously warrant my full support. Now I ask you, can you name me one game developer that has ever apologized to gamers in a similar fashion - maybe with a video from the project manager on its website or some other such stuff?? I think not. It is ONLY the gaming software companies that fully exploit its consumer base and when people try to fight back they get labeled bad names. I find it all very amusing to be sure.
@Hitman - The outcome was marginally successful for the community and I ended up developing something of a mutually respectful rapport with one of the company representatives. Needless to say he simply could not believe I would spend such money on the community and I told him I'm a man of my word and I always put my money where my mouth is and I stand up for what I believe is a just cause. If more people did things like that this would truly be a better place.
Additionally if you doubt me you can always ask Neal about my veracity as I'm sure he will vouch for it. It was one such instance that led to my basically becoming a lurker in this community. You see I had a disagreement about a policy interpretation and several of the people that stood against me where at that time more valuable to Neal and logically he support their faction; in all fairness it was tacitly. Sadly enough in the long run many of them screwed Neal and the community over. However I'm still here and they are gone. Moreover if Neal ever needs help with anything he knows how to contact me and he should know if it is within my ability I'll do it.
Sailor Steve
05-23-07, 04:15 PM
Maayyyyybe. IF it is guaranteed to fix all the listed problems, and IF sufficient members of the community are allowed to be involved in the testing, and IF further patching is guaranteed if needed; then I would be glad to pay extra. I'm still hoping for a proper fixing/upgrade for SH3, which I would also be glad to pay for.
CaptainHunter
05-23-07, 04:35 PM
Hell I'm easy I would pay for the patch and the expansion:doh:
Capt. Shark Bait
05-23-07, 04:50 PM
maybe, but not cuz the patch is part of it. it'ld have to have a lotta new content
Nightmare
05-23-07, 05:04 PM
I voted "No" because I'm not paying between $19.99 and $29.99 for working radar, stopwatch, and imperial measurement system, which should have worked correctly, right out of the box. I had a gut feeling the SH4 release was going to extremely bumpy and I still bought the game as soon as it hit the store shelves knowing full well the state of the game as a first patch had been released that afternoon. It was purchased in good faith that the developers/Ubi would give the game the usual 4-6 month patching cycle. :damn:
pocatellodave
05-23-07, 06:39 PM
If I was going to pay anyone for fixes,new content etc.,it would be to the hard working modders!If I got it right,and I think I do,the SH III add on was nothing but mods that were churned out by dedicated modders.I'll be danged if I'll pay Ubi for something that should have been working in the first place.I know nothing about SDK,but if opening it up would give are modders a chance to fix things,it would be nice if Ubi did that so are sim could be fixed up.
Pocatellodave
acetoolguy
05-23-07, 07:02 PM
Every day on here I read proof that P.T. Barnum was dead on right.
StandingCow
05-23-07, 07:06 PM
I would love to say no... but in the end curiosity would get the best of me, and I would think.. hmmmm.. I could pay 20 bucks to get this game patched up (something people are talking about paying the devs to do anyway) and some extra content... or keep something I paid 50 bucks for shelved because I cant stand the bugs?
Im the reason big companies get away with this. :oops:
THE_MASK
05-23-07, 07:14 PM
Patch SH4 first , then i will buy SH4 , then i would buy an expansion . :yep:
I voted no.
I'd love to see expansions, but why would I commit to buying them when the core game is broken? That doesn't exactly give me the warm and fuzzies about ongoing support.
I vote no. Far too many gaming companies asside from MMOLG's use this money grab to justify "completing" a game.
How could I or anyone pay for an add-on / patch, when for our buck we already spent did not result in a product received as advertised.
I have over a dozen games that lay on the shelf, incomplete because I refuse to pay for a payed add-on. I bought them cause the box and advertizing stated certain features and capabilities. But fell short of the mark.
Choice titles like: Pacific Storm that now needs Allied expansion. Star Wars Empire at War. etc etc...
On the flip side X3 - The Reunion (space sim) continue "years" after release to put out patches and what could be considered free expansion packs. Such as the latest one that allows you to build your very own Player owned HeadQuarter station. A major add-on. at no cost.
I played SH4 for 2 whole weeks. added patch 2. played 1 more week. and then shelved it waiting for patch 3... but so far to no avail.
I for one am tired of being duped by a management team that sits around an oval table conjuring up ways to milk the buying public for fixes of their unfinished product by financial design.
What can we do about this? Simple. I am no longer going to take part in the fan fair on new games. I will wait 1 or 2 years after the game's original release and by that time the game will sell as a gold edition at a reduced price which will include said expansion pack, patches, mods, and completed game.
I love the game idea SH4 represents, I have followed the series for years. I dream of how it should have been like many others. but there is only so much my imagination can fill in where the game designers fell short. If one must pay for a patch to fix SH4. It will join my growing pile of almost a good game covered in dust. But will be the last one to do so.
Iron Budokan
05-23-07, 08:54 PM
No, I'm afraid I would not, either. And for the record I also bought two copies, one for me and one for my little boy on the computer downstairs.
bookworm_020
05-24-07, 12:21 AM
Depends on the content of the extra's, If it's good (extra ships, aircraft, new missions, some more sub's to play with and a few new tweaks and tricks for the boat) you bet!:up:
If it is just a rip off of what some modders here have posted and a fix for known issues, forget it:nope:
I'd certainly buy and expansion for SH4 but I won't pay for a patch twice.
(You pay for patches with the initial purchase.)
I would have paid a more premium price for a finished product, that didnt require a patch. i have no qualms about paying $100 for a Finished quality specialized kind of game like a naval simulator, or in depth strategy game. 40 or 50 bucks at generic bargain store is nice, but cheap. look what you get.
i would buy an expansion with playable japs, or other campaigns.
RENEGADE-623
05-24-07, 06:55 AM
No, i owuld not pay for a patch taht they should be giving to the community to complete their product that they charged so much money for in the first place. I would pay for an expansion pack tho, depending on what it was and how much it was
Yes, I would and gladly. Many game developers have released 'upgrades/updates' in this format in the past. I would much rather shell out a few more bucks and be satisfied than plod along with a frustrating game that shows great promise. The bottom line is...there is a bottom line. Game developers must show a profit. I love sims too much to see them die on the vine due to the lack of money. I'll happily pony up if that's what it takes.
MONOLITH
05-24-07, 07:45 AM
On the flip side X3 - The Reunion (space sim) continue "years" after release to put out patches and what could be considered free expansion packs. Such as the latest one that allows you to build your very own Player owned HeadQuarter station. A major add-on. at no cost.
X3 is awesome. :up:
As is it's support team. :yep:
Oh, and I would easily pay for an expansion.
Three reasons...
1. I don't want the subsim genre to die.
2. Angry at UBI or not, I want to support the efforts of the dev team.
3. I love the game and want more of it, even if it means unjustly paying for a patch disguised as an expansion.
Look, right or wrong, if we boycott further UBI sim products, and if they stop making the silent hunter series, and if we don't get a patch, do you know who loses?
WE DO.
leeclose
05-24-07, 07:48 AM
Yup i play X3 as well and they guys know how to support theere gamers. As to paying more to ubi i would rather be ran over by a whale first:nope:
Spartan
05-24-07, 08:40 AM
Look, right or wrong, if we boycott further UBI sim products, and if they stop making the silent hunter series, and if we don't get a patch, do you know who loses?
WE DO.
That is exactly the reasoning they are using and frankly speaking it is flawed. It is a monopolistic philosophy and is inherently bad for consumers. Maybe the SH series may be put in the vaults by UBI and sure we might lose the franchise. But you cant say with certainty that there is not a developer out there in the market place with a different and maybe far superior new franchise just waiting in the wings to capitalize on such an event. Guess who wins in that situation? WE DO.
StandingCow
05-24-07, 08:45 AM
But if we keep supporting it and they keep putting out games that are broken and refuse to fix them, we not only lose, we lose 50 bucks.
proper aircraft for the PTO
That will never happen as the manufacturers of those aircraft would not give licenses for them to be used in the game.
LukeFF, remember the problem with IL2 and the trouble Oleg had over a/c and not getting permission? Same applies with an expansion for SH4. More than likely they'd have to pay to use a/c from those mfgs.
mookiemookie
05-24-07, 09:17 AM
proper aircraft for the PTO
That will never happen as the manufacturers of those aircraft would not give licenses for them to be used in the game.
LukeFF, remember the problem with IL2 and the trouble Oleg had over a/c and not getting permission? Same applies with an expansion for SH4. More than likely they'd have to pay to use a/c from those mfgs.
This is also why we don't have Yorktown class carriers in the game...from what I've read, Grumman laid a legal smackdown on Ubisoft over IL2 and won. Now anything Grumman is off limits, and the Yorktown was built at Newport News Shipbuilding & Drydock Co, which is *SURPRISE!* owned by Grumman.
Murdock
05-24-07, 10:49 AM
Me Thinks not Dont need to be Depth Charged Twice.:D -Patch to fix the Bugs Then Maybe when we have a Finished Game a Exspansion.:up:
darkfin
05-24-07, 10:55 AM
HECK NO!!! I paid for SH4 and it's in need of some fixing. After fixing that then I'll think of purchasing an expansion pak. There's no doubt in my mind the expansion pak will need a patch or two. Get the product solid then build upon it.
Spartan
05-24-07, 12:53 PM
But if we keep supporting it and they keep putting out games that are broken and refuse to fix them, we not only lose, we lose 50 bucks.
Exactly and we also lose an opportunity to have another product from a different publisher replace the current one.
Additionally for the record, I have no complaints with dev team they are doing their jobs as told. My reprehension is for the parent company and its utter disrespect and contemptuous actions towards its consumer base. UBI has pulled crap like this so many times already it disgusts me to say the least. Worst of all with all the laws related to DRM and IPR being twisted and extended at break neck speeds in full opposition against society in recent years, all I can see are darker days ahead for media consumers unless the general public wakes up, stands up and does something about it.
I do not think to connect to multiplayer until they extract the 1.3 and since they do not extract it do not think to buy anything of UBI
:gulp:
flintlock
05-24-07, 09:42 PM
would you pay for patch 1.3 as part of an "expansion" pack
Absolutely not!
skullman86
05-24-07, 10:03 PM
I will not pay for a patch, neither should anyone else and I find the votes shocking.
1.3 is being made because the game has flaws, I don't think people should have to pay for a patch even if it includes new content because the people who don't buy it get stuck with the same flawed game (how exactly is that fair?).If they wanted to sell new content then that is fine but 1.3 needs to be released separately.If they were going to release direct 2 drive content, then I could see possibly purchasing it (depending on the nature of the content) if it were a reasonable price, maybe $5-10.
U56_Dragon
05-25-07, 03:11 AM
SHEEP......One leads, the rest follow!!!
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I will not pay twice, to fix what should have been completed upon release.
An expansion, if worthy, will be considered as long as the original title version is correct.
rascal101
05-25-07, 06:26 AM
I'd pay double and double again if they'd release an Atlantic addon so we have a choice to play pacific or atlantic, US or Gemrman subs as and when we wanted to with all the wonderful graphics that SH4 has bought to the game series
Ah but it is to dream!!
would you pay for patch 1.3 as part of an "expansion" pack including other vessels and such?
I would(as i did by SH3)!
switch.dota
05-25-07, 06:53 AM
I already feel ripped off due to the poor quality of the released product. I'm not going to pay anymore for a PATCH. It's their job to fix the bugs and I've payd them for that when I bought the game.
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