Thank God for SH3

[GoldenRivet]

because man... the SH4 forums can get pretty darned ugly!

nearly all that is posted is stuff like

i hate ubi...

why is my thread closed...

we need to get a lawsuit against ubi...

we need to petition ubi for another patch...

etc etc etc

its as if the SH3 forum contains soft music in a fairly quiet setting where there are a bunch of Kaleuns discussing tactics and offering advice to the new L.T.s fresh our of U-boat school... and then you go and open the door to the SH4 forums and its like opening the door to a pre-school filled with screaming, yelling, and flinging poo

but here in the SH3 forum we have open and generally pleasant exchanges with one another. SH3 was good to start with - nowhere near what the modders made it into but it was a good product from day one as far as im aware.

I have purcahsed games that i can stack up wall to wall in my office here, and several of them have been BAD products wrapped in pretty boxes with cool screenies but it never once crossed my mind to petition anyone or get a lawsuit going. :roll: just a situation where you have to live and learn and throw that particular game into the buck fifty bin at the next garage sale!

anyway i just wanted to praise the SH3 bunch and how grouded in reality you all seem to be. :up: what a group of modders and players we have over here in the Atlantic!

[Jimbuna]

As I recall SH3 wasn't that much better when it was released :nope:
That the modifications it has underwent has totally transformed it into a mega game, I gotta agree :yep:

[GoldenRivet]

allow me to revise my statement...

after playing vanilla SH2 for ages and ages and thinking it was a pretty cool game

i loaded stock SH3 on the day of release and it was AWESOME compared to what i was used to.

i cannot say that stock SH4 had the same "wow" effect on me when compared to what i am now used to.

as a player who enjoys a strong basis in realism and immersion, i have developed a need for many compartments in the sub, working stations, and a somewhat interactive crew that does more than just look at me funny.

I know SH3 had issues when it was first released, but when it was compared to the subsims i had grown accustomed to playing it was nothing short of revolutionary.

while SH4 was just a new coat of paint on the same old subsim... it would be as if SH3 were just a remake of SH2 with higher resolution or a clearer picture.

does that make better sense?

[Jimbuna]

Both your posts make sense mate :up:
I'm not disagreeing with you :nope:
I think SH4 had a harder act to follow in SH3 (modded) than that which SH3 followed (SH2).
On a personal note I'm bitterly dissapointed with the quality of SH4....I pre ordered it despite my connection with GWX :damn:

[Boris]

http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/col-trautman.jpg

God didn't make SH3, I made it!

[GoldenRivet]

http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/col-trautman.jpg

God didn't make SH3, I made it!

Hahaha i like that!

[Syxx_Killer]

its as if the SH3 forum contains soft music in a fairly quiet setting where there are a bunch of Kaleuns discussing tactics and offering advice to the new L.T.s fresh our of U-boat school... and then you go and open the door to the SH4 forums and its like opening the door to a pre-school filled with screaming, yelling, and flinging poo

lol I love that description. I can picture it in my head. :rotfl:

But anyway, you are so right. This forum is still pretty pleasant. For the most part it always has been. I am still baffled how the devs could have missed the mark so much on SH4. The drama over there is something else. When patch 1.4b hit the scene, SH3 was (and still is) pretty darn playable. I really enjoyed it before the supermods arrived on the scene. Then that is when SH3 went to an entirely new level.

[johan_d]

There arent any WOW releases anymore.. just sequels. They need to bring somthing better and LISTEN, not only to the $$$ !

SH3 will be better due to the fatalism its having it into. Yes.. just think!

SH3 will be better due to the atlantic.. think!

:know:

[ReM]

its as if the SH3 forum contains soft music in a fairly quiet setting where there are a bunch of Kaleuns discussing tactics and offering advice to the new L.T.s fresh our of U-boat school... and then you go and open the door to the SH4 forums and its like opening the door to a pre-school filled with screaming, yelling, and flinging poo

lol I love that description. I can picture it in my head. :rotfl:

But anyway, you are so right. This forum is still pretty pleasant. For the most part it always has been. I am still baffled how the devs could have missed the mark so much on SH4. The drama over there is something else. When patch 1.4b hit the scene, SH3 was (and still is) pretty darn playable. I really enjoyed it before the supermods arrived on the scene. Then that is when SH3 went to an entirely new level.

Couldn't have said it better myself!

[Dietrich]

When patch 1.4b hit the scene, SH3 was (and still is) pretty darn playable. We still play "stock 1.4b" for multi-player games and it is excellent. And despite having played it continuously since the day it came out, I'm still finding new things in this game. SH3 was a giant leap forward over anything ever published so far.

I've not played SH4. Having read the reviews, I've decided not to buy it.

So, I'm left thinking, what would I do, if I were the SH3/4 devs? Well, I guess it would be to write a destroyer based game, that would interface with SH3 for Escort-v-Uboat battles. SH3 is fine. It works well and the community have modded it to a higher level for those interested in such things. But as a developer, you have to think "what can't the community do?" and "what would be a giant leap forward for the genre?".

[Reece]

and flinging poo Quick duck ... here comes a steamer! .... oooh I can't look, a peg, a peg, my kingdom for a peg!:lol:

[Jimbuna]

The old 'stinkers' are still the best ;)

[HunterICX]

its as if the SH3 forum contains soft music in a fairly quiet setting where there are a bunch of Kaleuns discussing tactics and offering advice to the new L.T.s fresh our of U-boat school... and then you go and open the door to the SH4 forums and its like opening the door to a pre-school filled with screaming, yelling, and flinging poo

lol I love that description. I can picture it in my head. :rotfl:

But anyway, you are so right. This forum is still pretty pleasant. For the most part it always has been. I am still baffled how the devs could have missed the mark so much on SH4. The drama over there is something else. When patch 1.4b hit the scene, SH3 was (and still is) pretty darn playable. I really enjoyed it before the supermods arrived on the scene. Then that is when SH3 went to an entirely new level.

this fits better

http://youtube.com/watch?v=a_-Eigd7RbU&mode=related&search

:rotfl:

[Dowly]

As I recall SH3 wasn't that much better when it was released :nope:


Indeed. But it still got patched up. Maybe UBI is pissed of to the guys on the SHIV forums who cryied the 3 first weeks constantly how the game sucks that they decided to cut the support. :hmm:

IN YOUR FACE!! HAAAHAAAA!!!

:rotfl:

[DanCanovas]

I can really relate to this post, SH3 is like a nice peaceful holiday in the carribean compared to the stress of SH4. I have to say, I don't feel the same about SH4 as SH3 apart from the graphics!
I like to come over to this forum to chill out after asking someone why I don't have a watch officer on my American boat!

[maddysad]

because man... the SH4 forums can get pretty darned ugly!

nearly all that is posted is stuff like

i hate ubi...

why is my thread closed...

we need to get a lawsuit against ubi...

we need to petition ubi for another patch...

etc etc etc

!

:) :) :)
As an avid "il2 Sturmovik" "18 patrol SH3" player :yep:

In my PERSONAL opinion

Ubi have made the same mistake TWICE :yep:
The European/Atlantic operations is not won/lost on a single battle/conflict :know:
whereas the Pacific could claim total victory :roll: on the sinking of certain ships :-?

The "poor guys" at Ubi have to make a saleable game out of History

The SH3 (GWX)mods have made a brilliant difference to this game
The same guys probably dont have so much scope for SH4 (apart from eye candy)

I thought Ubi done themselves an injustice moving from Russian Front to Pacific in il2
I feel they have done the same injustice in Atlantic to Pacific in Silent Hunter

More time/£££$$$ could have been used improving the game in the original theatres regarding realism,immersion,gameplay etc....

Just my opinion :D

[joea]

PERSONAL[/color] opinion

Ubi have made the same mistake TWICE
The European/Atlantic operations is not won/lost on a single battle/conflict
whereas the Pacific could claim total victory on the sinking of certain ships

The "poor guys" at Ubi have to make a saleable game out of History

The SH3 (GWX)mods have made a brilliant difference to this game
The same guys probably dont have so much scope for SH4 (apart from eye candy)

I thought Ubi done themselves an injustice moving from Russian Front to Pacific in il2
I feel they have done the same injustice in Atlantic to Pacific in Silent Hunter

More time/£££$$$ could have been used improving the game in the original theatres regarding realism,immersion,gameplay etc....

Just my opinion

Dumb thread, and now this post. :roll: You guys have short memories, there was a lot of crying about bugs with SH3, and do you remamber this evil word:

Starforce.

As for the comment about the Pacific not being worth it...where do you get the idea :

whereas the Pacific could claim total victory :roll: on the sinking of certain ships :-?

Bollocks...it was a war of attrition (speaking about the sub campaign) just like the Atlantic. Plus there were other theatres, China and Burma for example. :damn:

[DanCanovas]

PERSONAL[/color] opinion

Ubi have made the same mistake TWICE
The European/Atlantic operations is not won/lost on a single battle/conflict
whereas the Pacific could claim total victory on the sinking of certain ships

The "poor guys" at Ubi have to make a saleable game out of History

The SH3 (GWX)mods have made a brilliant difference to this game
The same guys probably dont have so much scope for SH4 (apart from eye candy)

I thought Ubi done themselves an injustice moving from Russian Front to Pacific in il2
I feel they have done the same injustice in Atlantic to Pacific in Silent Hunter

More time/£££$$$ could have been used improving the game in the original theatres regarding realism,immersion,gameplay etc....

Just my opinion

Dumb thread, and now this post. :roll: You guys have short memories, there was a lot of crying about bugs with SH3, and do you remamber this evil word:

Starforce.

As for the comment about the Pacific not being worth it...where do you get the idea :

whereas the Pacific could claim total victory :roll: on the sinking of certain ships :-?

Bollocks...it was a war of attrition (speaking about the sub campaign) just like the Atlantic. Plus there were other theatres, China and Burma for example. :damn:

I disagree. I remember clearly the SH3 release and yes it has bugs but it was not unplayable. Im struggling to even play Sh4! the thread can't be that dumb because you have posted in it.

[johan_d]

I find the Atlantic more appealing, maybe because I am European? dunno.

The atlantic is more spooky, and a lot of enemies in GWX3. Dunno of Sh4 since it eats my computer for breakfast.

Maybe thats the reason there are so many world war two movies playing against the germans, and less movies with the japanese.

And then, on SH4.. it could be that the expectations were to high ?

[Reece]

Hi Joe, SHIII never had anywhere near as many bugs as SHIV, but you are correct Starforce was bad, but I tell you what Securom aint much better, 2 out of 5 times I got an error (code 1000) stating I had an illegal copy!:-? Why does UBI use this type of protection I don't know, they only punish the genuine owner!!:nope:
But on a lighter note lets all take up ballet!! Kaloo Kalay!!:88):lol:
Sorry I don't know what came over me!!:doh:

[joea]

Oh well I'm getting tired of the arguing. Regardless of anything, SHIV should have been better just cause it was built on SHIII. Thank goodness for the good people who made SHIII and the new crop who have made some nice stuff for SHIV.


Back to the Black Sea for me, gotta fight those Reds. :arrgh!:

[MONOLITH]

i just wanted to praise the SH3 bunch and how grounded in reality you all seem to be.


I'd like to think that we are all on the same team here at Subsim. I didn't realize such an "Us and Them" mindset had developed over here.

You're belittling the SH4 guys, yet your very post of "Let me pick on those guys" doesn't demonstrate behavior that's any better.

It's worth noting too, that Neal himself is one of those people you are accusing of not being 'grounded in reality'.

SH3 had just as many whiners until some patches came out.

We're all brothers at sea here at subsim. Let's not kick each other when we're down.

[Genghis Khan]

Well,after starting playing Silent Hunter III,all other games stopped existing for me.

Silent Hunter III is the game,that really blows my mind.It's especially charmfull,pleasant and intelligent.It's flawless.For sure.:D :up:

[_Seth_]

We're all brothers at sea here at subsim. Let's not kick each other when we're down.:yep: :up::up:

[melnibonian]

We're all brothers at sea here at subsim. Let's not kick each other when we're down.
True :yep: :up: I wish everyone was thinking like that :yep:

[Lord_Kitchener]

I just could never get into SH4...just wasnt interested in starting over..American subs..not very pretty...plus..no Germans..lol. All these sims I like being a German for some reason:D . WW1, WW2 cause mainly they had all the coolest equipment, paint jobs, snappy uniforms....if it ever gets fixed might try it someday

[KPII]

Just transferred from SHIV. I haven't played a sub sim since 1986, so I was quite excited about trying SHIV when I stumbled into it by accident. Now i'm totally submerged as I was 20 years ago.

I've given up on SHIV due to a couple of crash dives to desktop just when I was in a perfect position to take on a carrier group, so I'll leave it on the shelf until it gets fixed and/or modded to completion. Yesterday I went and bought SHIII and promptly installed GWX. Oh what joy ... it's just amazing that the interface and gameplay is so much better than SHIV IMHO. GWX is the most amazing mod I have ever seen! even the 300+ page manual is an excellent product by itself - I took it to bed last night and didn't sleep before 5 AM ... what a sterling piece of work.

The need to micro-manage the crew is a bit annoying, but I can live with that since the AI is excellent and provides a real challenge. Now back to chasing those slippery zig-zagging convoys without a radar ...

[maddysad]

[quote=maddysad

More time/£££$$$ could have been used improving the game in the original theatres regarding realism,immersion,gameplay etc....
Just my opinion :D[/quote]


If ya gonna read my post.....read it to the end :know:

I think SH3 vanilla is a great game (patches? ?........I've installed enough patches from Ubi to make a quilt :damn: ) BUT the mods (GWX,Captain America..etc :|\\ ) made SH3 BRILLIANT

UBI should have SH4 vanilla to (at least) the level we enjoy at
SH3......THANKS TO THE MODS :()1:

instead they AGAIN introduce a different theatre and tweak a couple of things, hoping to attract new blood to a great game, which will depend on MODS to make brilliant

maddysad

[Genghis Khan]

Silent Hunter III,never mind stock one or with Add-ons,either mods has got a potential for maybe,5 - 7 years future gaming.You know,I never look to the software shelves being in supermarket now.No interest in that at all.I have got the most intelligent,unpredictable and charmfull game ever.So,after finishing playing my Silent Hunter III with U-Boat Battle in the Mediterranean Add-On,I will go in for GWX,after that I will try other mods.:D

What are the main reasons of Silent Hunter III success?I think it is the plot or story behind the game.

It has already become a brand of popular culture.A trademark-lonely ship crosses the Atlantic during World War II.Total stress atmosphere.Nobody around.Only waves of endless ocean.And sudden huge explosion quakes the ship.And nobody knows where the death has come from.

It's Befelshaber Der Unterseeboote,Oberkommando der Kriegsmarine :D :up:

[Iron Budokan]

SH3 is gonna be on top a long, long time. Oh, eventually a sub sim will come along to knock it off its perch. That's normal evolution in gaming. But right now it's still the best and it will always have a special place in our hearts.

Now, back to that tramp steamer off Dogger Bank....

[GoldenRivet]

i just wanted to praise the SH3 bunch and how grounded in reality you all seem to be.

I'd like to think that we are all on the same team here at Subsim. I didn't realize such an "Us and Them" mindset had developed over here.

You're belittling the SH4 guys, yet your very post of "Let me pick on those guys" doesn't demonstrate behavior that's any better.

It's worth noting too, that Neal himself is one of those people you are accusing of not being 'grounded in reality'.

SH3 had just as many whiners until some patches came out.

We're all brothers at sea here at subsim. Let's not kick each other when we're down.
i didnt mean to imply that all SH4 players are "unreal" or whatever - just that IMHO the difference between the SH4 forums and the SH3 forums is like night and day.

Just seems to be a lot of complaining about the sim (though it IS plenty worthy of complaint) and "threats" to sue UBI and compile petitions against UBI to "force" them into releasing yet another patch for their steaming pile of a sub sim.

but in the SH3 forums there seems to be a lot of comradery, and friendly exchanges.

i guess i wasnt around for all of the complaining about SH3... but when you have been playing SH2 for so long SH3 vanilla was a brilliant masterpiece by comparison... SH4 just doesnt bring many new and exciting ideas to the table as far as im concerned other than giant undersea rocks and clear water... i dont know, myabe im hard to please... or maybe i just expected more of a leap to occur based on what ubi and the rest of us learned of subsims and what they were really capable of with the release of SH3.

maybe the difference is because sh3 is so complete in comparison to SH4... but all of the bickering only reinforces the argument i have presented since my first hours of playing SH4...

Ubi knew it was not finished, they knew it was bugged beyond belief, they knew they were letting us down and stealing our money and they went ahead and released it anyway, relying on modders to finish the job they started (i can only pray that the mod community will once again step in and clean up ubi's litter box)... it says a lot about their company if you ask me.

[Reece]

Ubi knew it was not finished, they knew it was bugged beyond belief, they knew they were letting us down and stealing our money and they went ahead and released it anyway, relying on modders to finish the job they started

Now if they don't want to finish the job of fixing SHIV then the least they could do is give us the SDK so that we can do it, it would keep us happy (no more whinging) and wouldn't cost UBI a cent, especially since the SDK would be of no value to them now anyway!:yep:

[GoldenRivet]

every time i have a wet dream about a super model...


when i finish making a romance explosion on her chest...

... she hands me the SH3 and SH4 SDKs

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[MONOLITH]

- just that IMHO the difference between the SH4 forums and the SH3 forums is like night and day.

I believe it's a temporary thing.

The game is only a couple months from release, still has some issues to fix, and Subsim was just told "Hey, you may not get another patch if you don't prove you want and need it".

That's not only pretty harsh, but I think the reactions of the players is pretty "to be expected".

It will smooth out.

SH3 has two years of modding and tweaking behind it. SH4 has 60 or so days.

And some seriously impressive modding is going on right now with it, and we've just gotten started.

Respectfully, I think those that are not impressed with SH4 aren't really giving it a fair shake, or have spent enough time with it and the mods for it. I honestly have a hard time looking at SH3 after playing with SH4. But that's irrelevent, as it's just my one opinion. But I certainly wouldn't post over there "Hah, those suckers at the SH3 side are still looking at 2 year old outdated graphics. And they have no Tunable Radio stations!"

Yes, what is currently happening on the SH4 side is a bit disheartening. But it's even more disheartening to see yet another rift and divide develop at Subsim, similar to what we had between DW and SH3.

I just think we should support each other regardless of which sub sim version we prefer. After all, we're all still subsimmers together. And this really isn't 3 seperate websites.

Meh. Just thinking out loud.

Cheers.

[Lt. Cobra]

Just transferred from SHIV. I haven't played a sub sim since 1986, so I was quite excited about trying SHIV when I stumbled into it by accident. Now i'm totally submerged as I was 20 years ago.

I've given up on SHIV due to a couple of crash dives to desktop just when I was in a perfect position to take on a carrier group, so I'll leave it on the shelf until it gets fixed and/or modded to completion. Yesterday I went and bought SHIII and promptly installed GWX. Oh what joy ... it's just amazing that the interface and gameplay is so much better than SHIV IMHO. GWX is the most amazing mod I have ever seen! even the 300+ page manual is an excellent product by itself - I took it to bed last night and didn't sleep before 5 AM ... what a sterling piece of work.

The need to micro-manage the crew is a bit annoying, but I can live with that since the AI is excellent and provides a real challenge. Now back to chasing those slippery zig-zagging convoys without a radar ...I feel the same way where ctd is concerned playing SHIV. Btw, where did you go out and buy Silent Hunter III? I can’t find it in any of the stores that I’ve been in and I’ve been to several lately. I would rather buy SHIII, however, somewhere that I would know that Ubi Soft is not going to profit from my purchase since they are doing their customers the way that they are right now. Any ideas from anybody of an excellent source where I could get SHIII? Sound like an excellent game with the help of the mod community over the years. Many thanks for your advice!

[Jimbuna]

Buy from the link at the top of this page and you will be supporting this forum :up:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/index.php

[d@rk51d3]

Now if they don't want to finish the job of fixing SHIV then the least they could do is give us the SDK so that we can do it, it would keep us happy (no more whinging) and wouldn't cost UBI a cent, especially since the SDK would be of no value to them now anyway!:yep:


Unless they want to re-hash it again in SH-V.:rotfl:

[Reece]

Don't threaten me d@rk51d3!:rotfl:

[Dowly]

Ubi knew it was not finished, they knew it was bugged beyond belief, they knew they were letting us down and stealing our money and they went ahead and released it anyway, relying on modders to finish the job they started
Now if they don't want to finish the job of fixing SHIV then the least they could do is give us the SDK so that we can do it, it would keep us happy (no more whinging) and wouldn't cost UBI a cent, especially since the SDK would be of no value to them now anyway!:yep:

Who knows, maybe they need the SDK for other kinds of games? A sailing game with SHIII/SHIV's engine? Scuba Diving game? ;)

1C does it, IL2's modified engine is used in atleast two other games I can think of; "Whirlwind Over Vietnam" and the new Close Combat + Combat Mission wargame "Theatre of War".

[KPII]

Just transferred from SHIV. I haven't played a sub sim since 1986, so I was quite excited about trying SHIV when I stumbled into it by accident. Now i'm totally submerged as I was 20 years ago.

I've given up on SHIV due to a couple of crash dives to desktop just when I was in a perfect position to take on a carrier group, so I'll leave it on the shelf until it gets fixed and/or modded to completion. Yesterday I went and bought SHIII and promptly installed GWX. Oh what joy ... it's just amazing that the interface and gameplay is so much better than SHIV IMHO. GWX is the most amazing mod I have ever seen! even the 300+ page manual is an excellent product by itself - I took it to bed last night and didn't sleep before 5 AM ... what a sterling piece of work.

The need to micro-manage the crew is a bit annoying, but I can live with that since the AI is excellent and provides a real challenge. Now back to chasing those slippery zig-zagging convoys without a radar ...I feel the same way where ctd is concerned playing SHIV. Btw, where did you go out and buy Silent Hunter III? I can’t find it in any of the stores that I’ve been in and I’ve been to several lately. I would rather buy SHIII, however, somewhere that I would know that Ubi Soft is not going to profit from my purchase since they are doing their customers the way that they are right now. Any ideas from anybody of an excellent source where I could get SHIII? Sound like an excellent game with the help of the mod community over the years. Many thanks for your advice!

I picked it up in the second game store I visited at a bargain price of ~$15. However, I should of course have bought it here at Subsim to support the maintenance costs of this excellent forum - to compensate I have made a donation of approx. the difference to the initial purchase price.

I hope that someone in time will make something like GWX for SHIV - it would be excellent to have all the eye-candy together with the challenging AI ... and of course the U-boots. Until then SHIII with GWX will suit me just fine for months to come.

U-98 (Type VIIC) currently heading towards the hunting grounds at grid AM51 at cruising speed - wish me luck :arrgh!:

[Reece]

@ Dowly, call it .. wishful thinking!!:lol:

[NightCrawler]

As a former "aces of the deep", SHII and now SHIII gamer
Graphics getting better and better, I think "WOW" is a big word....

When SHIII came out, everybody would say "WOW", or "AWESOME" game.
but when we bounch up agains a bug during the gameplay.
that 2 DD collided eachother, than "WOW" become "WTF???" lmao.

Than in Stock game that "sudden sink", even you didn't touch the ship yet or even fire the eal...

"wow" become, anoying, and ask yourself "this must be improve".

But Ubi didn't do allot after stock-patches...
We still have empty habours no ships nothing...


Than the magical crew step up and identified themself as "GRAYWOLF".
A bunch of amature programmers that SPICE UP SHIII.
With Sweat, blood and tears after working in there free time or weekend.
They finaly finish SHIII...

Graywolf gave us habour traffic and more realistic combat for the UBoot.
Ok even GW patch there are some minor blitzes, but Graywolf crew fix it for us..

If we dont have GW-Team i think SHIII was still "****ty" to play...

I would like to thanks the Graywolf crew for finishing a game that UBI never had the time to do it...

For them(UBI) it's all about money.
Graywolf never saw a dime after working on GW patches.

But i think that GW crew have a new project in SHIV.
And i hope that GW-Team still love to reprogram, fixing the SHIV that UBI forgot to put that in the game...

Just a thank you for the GW-Team, for fixing SHIII for all the SHIII gamers in the world...

Regard,
NightCrawler

[Dowly]

But i think that GW crew have a new project in SHIV.


I wouldnt be too surprised if it would not happen. GW was made out of love for uboats. But time will tell what is to come from them regarding SHIV. ;)

[bruschi sauro]

We're all brothers at sea here at subsim. Let's not kick each other when we're down.
True :yep: :up: I wish everyone was thinking like that :yep:
giusto:up: true:up:

[Lt. Cobra]

Just transferred from SHIV. I haven't played a sub sim since 1986, so I was quite excited about trying SHIV when I stumbled into it by accident. Now i'm totally submerged as I was 20 years ago.

I've given up on SHIV due to a couple of crash dives to desktop just when I was in a perfect position to take on a carrier group, so I'll leave it on the shelf until it gets fixed and/or modded to completion. Yesterday I went and bought SHIII and promptly installed GWX. Oh what joy ... it's just amazing that the interface and gameplay is so much better than SHIV IMHO. GWX is the most amazing mod I have ever seen! even the 300+ page manual is an excellent product by itself - I took it to bed last night and didn't sleep before 5 AM ... what a sterling piece of work.

The need to micro-manage the crew is a bit annoying, but I can live with that since the AI is excellent and provides a real challenge. Now back to chasing those slippery zig-zagging convoys without a radar ...I feel the same way where ctd is concerned playing SHIV. Btw, where did you go out and buy Silent Hunter III? I can’t find it in any of the stores that I’ve been in and I’ve been to several lately. I would rather buy SHIII, however, somewhere that I would know that Ubi Soft is not going to profit from my purchase since they are doing their customers the way that they are right now. Any ideas from anybody of an excellent source where I could get SHIII? Sound like an excellent game with the help of the mod community over the years. Many thanks for your advice!Buy from the link at the top of this page and you will be supporting this forum :up:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/index.phpI picked it up in the second game store I visited at a bargain price of ~$15. However, I should of course have bought it here at Subsim to support the maintenance costs of this excellent forum - to compensate I have made a donation of approx. the difference to the initial purchase price.

I hope that someone in time will make something like GWX for SHIV - it would be excellent to have all the eye-candy together with the challenging AI ... and of course the U-boots. Until then SHIII with GWX will suit me just fine for months to come.

U-98 (Type VIIC) currently heading towards the hunting grounds at grid AM51 at cruising speed - wish me luck :arrgh!:Done! :up: I just bought two copies, one for my son and one for myself! Thank you very much for your advice. I can’t believe that I missed the link at the top of this page to buy from. Now I will just need to know what all to do to get SHIII patched up once I get it. I will be laying SHIV to the side until we hear something from Ubi on what they are going to do about this newly but badly flawed release of theirs. :nope:

[KPII]

It's not a big deal actually:
1) Install SHIII
2) Patch to v1.4b (UBI has a good page with different download links to patch 1.4)
3) Install GWX
4) Patch GWX to v1.03with the latest patch
5) Install SH3 Commander (a small program that allows you to pre-configure the mission set-up as well as increase time-compression from the stock 1056x,)
6) Patch SH3 Commander so it's compatible with GWX v1.03 (info in the excellent GWX manual as well as on the GWX download page)

No sweat - shouldn't take more than 7-8 hours tops :p

[Jimbuna]

You might want to get used to the stock version of the game then try a supermod :up:

[KPII]

You might want to get used to the stock version of the game then try a supermod :up:

Well, all the controls and commands are the same as the Trigger Maru mod for SHVI, so it's not a big differnece actually. The biggest change is actually that the AI is a really good challenge, so I just keep my ambitions in check and work on getting a good crew before taking on the big juicy targets.

[Jimbuna]

You might want to get used to the stock version of the game then try a supermod :up:

Well, all the controls and commands are the same as the Trigger Maru mod for SHVI, so it's not a big differnece actually. The biggest change is actually that the AI is a really good challenge, so I just keep my ambitions in check and work on getting a good crew before taking on the big juicy targets.

'SHVI' !! :o
I'll settle for SHV :lol:

[KPII]

'SHVI' !! :o
I'll settle for SHV :lol:

Ouupss .. got a bit ahead of myself there. Normally when I do that I hear something like: "WO: Contact!, Battleship, 358 degrees, fast moving, closing, short rang...argh ..."

[Lt. Cobra]

It's not a big deal actually:
1) Install SHIII
2) Patch to v1.4b (UBI has a good page with different download links to patch 1.4)
3) Install GWX
4) Patch GWX to v1.03with the latest patch
5) Install SH3 Commander (a small program that allows you to pre-configure the mission set-up as well as increase time-compression from the stock 1056x,)
6) Patch SH3 Commander so it's compatible with GWX v1.03 (info in the excellent GWX manual as well as on the GWX download page)

No sweat - shouldn't take more than 7-8 hours tops :pWith regards to steps numbers 2 and 4, can I just directly put in patches v1.4b and GWX v1.03 or will I need to put in previous patches leading up to these first?

[down and out]

Now you only need the 1.4b patch and GWX 1.03 patches
They are both cumalative and contain all previous ones

[Lt. Cobra]

Now you only need the 1.4b patch and GWX 1.03 patches
They are both cumalative and contain all previous onesThank you! I look forward to getting it. :up:

[Jimbuna]

1.Uninstall SH3 via Windows' "Add/Remove programs"
2. Open Windows Explorer and:
- *delete* the folder where you had installed SH3
- *delete* the \My Documents\SH3 folder
3. Reinstall SH3
4. If your SH3 did not come with patch v1.4b already included, install patch v1.4b. Ensure you install the patch that corresponds to your copy of SH3 (Download/DVD/EMEA/US)
5. OPTIONAL: Copy and paste this "clean" install as a backup to avoid the need to follow steps 1-3 if your game becomes corrupt in future
6. Visit the GWX homepage (http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/GWX/) and download into the SAME folder GWX.exe and the five .bin files. While there grab the v1.03 patch
7. Run GWX.exe and follow the installation prompts
8. Run GWX103.exe and follow the installation prompts
9. SH3 COMMANDER USERS: Visit the GWX homepage (http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/GWX/) and download the GWX 1.02+ Cfg files for SH3 Commander and unzip the contents DIRECTLY into your SH3 Commander\Cfg folder.

[Genghis Khan]

GWX is really something.:D I have been playing it for two days already and it differs from stock SHIII as the day from the night.

Moreover,what's is foremost pleasant it does improve framerate on my notebook,you know.:D :up:

And as for SHIV,I am not even going to buy it.His own to each,I think,during World War II,the most powerfull submarine fleet was German Kriegsmarine,the most powerfull air force was USAF.Ubisoft should make a difference,what certain type of warfare matches each country best.:D

[joea]

GWX is really something.:D I have been playing it for two days already and it differs from stock SHIII as the day from the night.

Moreover,what's is foremost pleasant it does improve framerate on my notebook,you know.:D :up:

And as for SHIV,I am not even going to buy it.His own to each,I think,during World War II,the most powerfull submarine fleet was German Kriegsmarine,the most powerfull air force was USAF.Ubisoft should make a difference,what certain type of warfare matches each country best.:D

Funny post, the RAF was pretty powerful too, and the VVS did very well (once they learned some hard lessons) at tacair support. Maybe you didn't know the US submarine fleet actually won their war (60% of all Japanese shipping I believe) and the U-boats lost their's? Though they certainly went down fighting can't deny that. You seriously think a flight sim should be made were you only fly US planes??? :rotfl:

[codmander]

As I recall SH3 wasn't that much better when it was released :nope:
That the modifications it has underwent has totally transformed it into a mega game, I gotta agree :yep:

sh3 is way better period not half the probs sh4 was throw together like sh2

[Lord_Kitchener]

You seriously think a flight sim should be made were you only fly US planes??? :rotfl: DON'T GIVE THEM ANY IDEAS!!!!!!

[Lt. Cobra]

1.Uninstall SH3 via Windows' "Add/Remove programs"
2. Open Windows Explorer and:
- *delete* the folder where you had installed SH3
- *delete* the \My Documents\SH3 folder
3. Reinstall SH3
4. If your SH3 did not come with patch v1.4b already included, install patch v1.4b. Ensure you install the patch that corresponds to your copy of SH3 (Download/DVD/EMEA/US)
5. OPTIONAL: Copy and paste this "clean" install as a backup to avoid the need to follow steps 1-3 if your game becomes corrupt in future
6. Visit the GWX homepage (http://www.users.on.net/%7Ejscones/GWX/) and download into the SAME folder GWX.exe and the five .bin files. While there grab the v1.03 patch
7. Run GWX.exe and follow the installation prompts
8. Run GWX103.exe and follow the installation prompts
9. SH3 COMMANDER USERS: Visit the GWX homepage (http://www.users.on.net/%7Ejscones/GWX/) and download the GWX 1.02+ Cfg files for SH3 Commander and unzip the contents DIRECTLY into your SH3 Commander\Cfg folder.Thank you for these excellent instructions! I got SH3 up and running in hardly no time at all including the patches and the GWX mod. Now I see what everyone has been talking about for all this time. For the short time that I've played it I can already see that this is truly a masterpiece and an immersing game with the help of the GWX mod! It really puts you on your toes and feels great not to mention that it feels so REAL! I don’t have SH3 Commander Users in yet and I’m not even quite sure what all that it does but I sure like what I see in this game so far. You guys are brilliant in this community with everything you come up with. I can see that I am going to have tons of fun with this. I just need to figure out how everything works and learn the ins and the outs of this great sim that you guys have made better. I hope to see some of you on the high seas sometime. Maybe you can give me some good pointers on how to be a better Skipper. Cheers to all! :()1:

[bigboywooly]

Glad you are sorted Lt Cobra

Sh3commander is a great program which can run alongsie any mod and be tailored in any way you like

Reduce crew management to 0
Addin custom\random start screens etc
Reduce\lengthen days in port
Reduce gun reload rates and much much more

If you decide to get SH3commander dont forget the additional GWX specific files ( from below my sig )
Will give you all the new shipnames on your SH3commander patrol reports and much more again

Have fun

[kiwi_2005]

http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/col-trautman.jpg

God didn't make SH3, I made it!

CHUCK NORRIS MADE IT!!!:arrgh!:

[GoldenRivet]

right after he rode a nine foot tall grizzly bear through a drive in car wash instead of taking a shower.

[Lt. Cobra]

Glad you are sorted Lt Cobra

Sh3commander is a great program which can run alongsie any mod and be tailored in any way you like

Reduce crew management to 0
Addin custom\random start screens etc
Reduce\lengthen days in port
Reduce gun reload rates and much much more

If you decide to get SH3commander dont forget the additional GWX specific files ( from below my sig )
Will give you all the new shipnames on your SH3commander patrol reports and much more again

Have funSounds very interesting! I will have to get this too but I think that I am going to spend a little more time at sea first getting to know my new ship before I delve off into another mod at this time. Thanks for the info! :ahoy:

[Jimbuna]

Glad your sorted mate :up:

[Lt. Cobra]

Glad your sorted mate :up::rock: