View Full Version : 100% Realism + Reloading
VonBlade
05-18-07, 04:24 PM
I've noticed that this forum is split into two camps. The "Quake" brigade, and the "Rivet counting"brigade. If you'll pardon my perojatives. My question is more at the Rivets than the Quakes.
We all know that you need to save often, because the game is a little unstable in places. But what determines a reason to reload a savegame? Missed a ship? Got sunk? Game crashed?
I ask because I'm wondering if there is a group of 100%ers who reload if all doesn't go according to plan, or if there are some who play it in a 'dead=dead' fashion.
Purely curious and hoping to get away from these silly anti-UBI threads lately and back to some Sub discussion.
VB
MaxT.dk
05-18-07, 04:31 PM
Exactly one of the reasons why I don't play 100% Realism.
A pure I-play-for-fun "Quaker" here.
And frankly said, I hate the load/save process, specially when SH4 takes it time to load (it's not a pacman after all)...
And that was what I was thinking too... If you play on 100% Realism and all that, then you shouldn't use the load/save feature at all (except when you gotta leave to do some business, sleep etc...)... That would be called "cheating" as I look at it
I don't play at quite 100% realism I still play with the dead=dead mentality.
9th_cow
05-18-07, 04:40 PM
At the moment i reloaded because the japs used a semi nuclear depth charge, wich i consider cheating.
i need to look into mods for that, i dont consider something dropping 100s of feet to one side and above of me a reason to instantly die.
must have been some shockwave.
last time i died i gave up, fair cop. but then i got hit along my hull.
but this was as bad as the time i was killed online, when the depth charge was a good 200 feet away, and instantly i just lost the entire ship.
I play Dead is Dead, even though I don't play with 100% realism.
I am more interested in realistic atmosphere than I am in doing every bloody step of the torpedo calculation myself. So, sometimes (I said "sometimes" :p ) I use "quake" stuff like automatic torpedo calculation etc
But in campaigns I ALWAYS play Dead is Dead, and never reload when I die. That makes me value every target and every potential danger close to what real captain would do in real life. I avoid heavily guarded convoys, I refuse to complete missions that seem suicidal to me (photo recon in Yokohama harbor?!?!?) etc. I play like a bloody coward sometimes, but hey that's campaign realism for me.
I'm wondering if there is a group of 100%ers who reload if all doesn't go according to plan, or if there are some who play it in a 'dead=dead' fashion. VB
If I miss I miss. If my sub is sunk it's time to start a new career. The only reason to save is in case of a crash to desktop.
At the moment i reloaded because the japs used a semi nuclear depth charge, wich i consider cheating...
There's a mod out there by RedWine that restricts DCs to their real abilities. I use it in RFB. If you're tired of uber-Japanese killing you on every other patrol you might want to give it a try.
If I die, I start over in -41. Otherwise I usually accept offers of retirement (haven't been offered one before completing 8 patrols yet) and restart a new career in the same years as I retired. If I hadn't restarted with manual TDC I probably would have reached the end of the war now. I'm currently six patrols into my latest career, and so far I've managed to keep the escorts and aircraft at bay. :)
If I screw up, miss or get depth charged, it's game over. So the only reason I load up saves is to carry on a campaign from the evening or day before. This is on all games and sims by the way, not just subs, as I like the challenge.
Playing like this actually makes it more rewarding for me, as I tend to try and avoid situations that would get my boat destroyed or crew members killed.
Of course it probably means I miss out on some kills, but they would only be kills where luck meant I got away with it too, so when I do get a kill, it's all the more rewarding. This tends to result in tonnages that are more like the real thing, and the occasional RTB with lots of fish still on board, but 'them's the breaks' as they say.
There's nothing wrong with replaying stuff and trying to improve on your last attempt or whatever, and if people want to do that, good luck to them, but it's just not my bag personally.
Chock :D
U-Bones
05-18-07, 07:38 PM
I often kill my own careers.
Never reload except to bug hunt.
I am neither a Quaker nor a 'Counter.
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