Immigration Reform deal done?

[SUBMAN1]

The end is near I see:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070517/ap_on_go_co/immigration_congress

-S

[The Avon Lady]

Capitulation, from A------ to Z (http://www.suntimes.com/news/steyn/393216,CST-EDT-steyn20.article), by Mark Steyn.

:nope:

[Hitman]

Someone should start thinking seriously about putting an end to this ASAP, not just in the US but mainly in the EU. We can't continue absorbing the results of irresponsable demographics in the third world and/or poorer countries:hmm:

[SUBMAN1]

Someone should start thinking seriously about putting an end to this ASAP, not just in the US but mainly in the EU. We can't continue absorbing the results of irresponsable demographics in the third world and/or poorer countries:hmm:
Exactly. I'm willing to pay the 12 million person bill for deportation.

They say Americans won't do the job - BS. Pay them enough and they will. This is just an excuse to pay people under minimum wage for jobs that Americans would demand more $$$ for. Americans did these jobs long before there was a problem.

-S

PS. If they need the money to get rid of them, add $10 to everyones tax return for one year. That will give them over $3 Billion to get rid of them all. I won't miss the $10.

[Hitman]

They say Americans won't do the job - BS. Pay them enough and they will. This is just an excuse to pay people under minimum wage for jobs that Americans would demand more $$$ for. Americans did these jobs long before there was a problem.


It always amazes me how the leftish politicians and the trade unions are accepting the inmigration. Completely crazy and against any logical reason...the wages and general conditions of the humble classes would skyrocket if those jobs had to be paid enough to attract people to them. It's actually the inmigration a good part of the reason why they still are crappy jobs. Only the inmigrants do them....

Anyway I'm not against a certain amount of inmigration, but any amount that makes it impossible to assimilate and integrate them is a NO NO for me. That is an invasion, not inmigration. :nope:

EDIT: Forgot to add:

A guy I know here had this idea to end inmigration: Put death penalty on the second ilegal border-crossing. If you are caught once you are informed that finding you again in this country will result in death penalty. Then you are asked where you want to return and helped arrive there. But if you are caught again in this country, you are shot after a summary trial.

Got an idea how upset is people here already?

[The Avon Lady]

They say Americans won't do the job - BS. Pay them enough and they will. This is just an excuse to pay people under minimum wage for jobs that Americans would demand more $$$ for. Americans did these jobs long before there was a problem.


It always amazes me how the leftish politicians and the trade unions are accepting the inmigration. Completely crazy and against any logical reason...the wages and general conditions of the humble classes would skyrocket if those jobs had to be paid enough to attract people to them. It's actually the inmigration a good part of the reason why they still are crappy jobs. Only the inmigrants do them....

Anyway I'm not against a certain amount of inmigration, but any amount that makes it impossible to assimilate and integrate them is a NO NO for me. That is an invasion, not inmigration. :nope:
There was a big article in Businessweek 2 weeks ago, singing the praise of the success of massive immigration in your country, Spain. The article claimed that Spain could serve as the positive role model for the rest of Europe, now much more experienced in the negative aspects of immigration. The article devoted one small paragraph to what-if-it-doesn't-work and then moved on to nothing but blind positive thinking.

It's not my country. I could afford to laugh at the author but I just shook my head. :nope:

[Heibges]

Someone should start thinking seriously about putting an end to this ASAP, not just in the US but mainly in the EU. We can't continue absorbing the results of irresponsable demographics in the third world and/or poorer countries:hmm:

You guys should have thought of that before you went and colonized them. Great job you did around the world. You really should be proud of yourselves.

As yee sow, so shall yee reap.

[The Avon Lady]

Someone should start thinking seriously about putting an end to this ASAP, not just in the US but mainly in the EU. We can't continue absorbing the results of irresponsable demographics in the third world and/or poorer countries:hmm:

You guys should have thought of that before you went and colonized them. Great job you did around the world. You really should be proud of yourselves.

As yee sow, so shall yee reap.
How far back in history can we go to use this logic? :hmm:

[Heibges]

Start back 50 years ago since the end of WWII, for most of the world. Which is barely history if you follow the 30 Years Rule.

But look at Russia, and some of those bad feelings go back 600 years. It's always been tough being Russia's neighboor.

I had a professor in college who predicted that a war between Russia and Ukraine was likely. But it's been almost 20 years so hopefully this will not come to pass.

Japan, you could argue, is the only country that benefited by contact with the West.

[The Avon Lady]

Start back 50 years ago since the end of WWII, for most of the world. Which is barely history if you follow the 30 Years Rule.
And what does this have to do with Spain?

[Hitman]

There was a big article in Businessweek 2 weeks ago, singing the praise of the success of massive immigration in your country, Spain. The article claimed that Spain could serve as the positive role model for the rest of Europe, now much more experienced in the negative aspects of immigration. The article devoted one small paragraph to what-if-it-doesn't-work and then moved on to nothing but blind positive thinking.

It's not my country. I could afford to laugh at the author but I just shook my head. :nope:

Hey, inmigration has been a success here. We have MILLIONS of inmigrants, can you think of a higher success?:shifty: [Irony mode OFF]

Spain as we know it today is the result of inmigration and a flow of lots of cultures. All of them contributed to form us as we are today, Romans, cartaginens, phoenicians, visigotes, islam...yet it should be obvious that NONE of those cultures exists any longer but instead there is a fusion of all of them. Many cheap columnists seem to forget that. If we continue to have such a flow of inmigration, we might have a succesful society, a strong economy here and a strong culture here (Which I doubt) but it will NO LONGER be the spanish one, that's for sure:hmm:

You guys should have thought of that before you went and colonized them. Great job you did around the world. You really should be proud of yourselves.

As yee sow, so shall yee reap.

Great contribution to the discussion Heibges, backed with lots of historical data and a deep reasoning. You must be proud of it. :up:

[jumpy]

And what does this have to do with Spain?

in the context of this topic one might well ask 'And what does this have to do with Israel?' it surely makes as much or as little sense... :roll:

[The Avon Lady]

And what does this have to do with Spain?

in the context of this topic one might well ask 'And what does this have to do with Israel?' it surely makes as much or as little sense... :roll:
Yep. I lost track. :damn: :88)

EDIT: But Hitman replied to Heibges spot on.

[Heibges]

Start back 50 years ago since the end of WWII, for most of the world. Which is barely history if you follow the 30 Years Rule.
And what does this have to do with Spain?

I thought we were talking about immigration in the United States.

If the countries of Central and South America had prospered under America's tutelage since the Monroe Doctrine, would America have the problem with illegal immigrants it has today.

If the gentlemen of Europe, in assuming their White Man's Burden, had actually meant to help the countries they colonized, would they have the problems with immigrants looking for a bigger piece of the pie?

[Hitman]

Past is past, Heibges, no sense crying over it now. I'm talking about present and future; this flow of inmigration must stop. That does not mean we shall ignore the poverty and the problems in those countries that force people to emigrate. But IMO ultimately the quick and dirty solution of opening the doors to uncontrolled inmigration to hape cheap workers will in the medium term have catastrophic consequences. France is a good example...and it had a much stronger personality and national feel than us, and look what happened after absorbing more inmigrants than it could succesfully integrate in his structures:hmm:

[waste gate]

I've been assured that my congressman, from Colorado's 6th congressional district, will vote against this bill. His name is Tom Tancredo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Tancredo).

[waste gate]

BREAKING NEWS
A temporary restraining order has been issued by U.S. District Judge Sam Lindsay that blocks Farmers Branch from implementing an ordinance banning apartment rentals to most illegal immigrants. Details to come.


http://www.dallasnews.com/index.html

The voters of Farmers Branch passed this ordinance by a 68% to 32% vote.

BTW here is the judge who issued the order http://www.txnd.uscourts.gov/judges/lindsay.html

If you cannot win at the ballot box take it to the court! Ala Algore. So much for believing in democracy.
This why we cannot allow the amnesty.............these folks don't believe in democracy.
wg

[Heibges]

Past is past, Heibges, no sense crying over it now. I'm talking about present and future; this flow of inmigration must stop. That does not mean we shall ignore the poverty and the problems in those countries that force people to emigrate. But IMO ultimately the quick and dirty solution of opening the doors to uncontrolled inmigration to hape cheap workers will in the medium term have catastrophic consequences. France is a good example...and it had a much stronger personality and national feel than us, and look what happened after absorbing more inmigrants than it could succesfully integrate in his structures:hmm:

I see your point, but I feel everyone, even a nation-state, must take responsibility for its actions, and make corrections.

In some respects, I think that Spain was lucky to lose the Spanish American War, because all those countries that may have been angry with Spain, ended up angry at the United States instead. All my friends from Central and South America, have nothing but good things to say about Spain, and are very proud of their Spanish Heritage. But they all seem to be angry at the United States for sticking its fingers in their business.

In the United States, I think the issue of Illegal Immigrants is seperate from that of Cheap Labor. United States agriculture has relied on a supply of cheap labor since the Dust Bowl in the 1930's. And I think this stems from more basic problems with the Western Agricultural Economy since the Industrial Revolution. Hasn't England been subsidizing her farmers in one form or another for almost 300 years?

Someone brought up just raising the minimum wage in the United States, but this has small and medium sized business owners going crazy if you do that.

[waste gate]

Finally someone is getting the word to the white house that this is and should be a non-starter.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070624/NATION/106240047/1001&template=printart


On a separate note, it'll be coming to Canada soon.

http://www.wnd.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56332

[Skybird]

In some respects, I think that Spain was lucky to lose the Spanish American War, because all those countries that may have been angry with Spain, ended up angry at the United States instead.

:-?

:D

:lol:

:rotfl:

[waste gate]

In some respects, I think that Spain was lucky to lose the Spanish American War, because all those countries that may have been angry with Spain, ended up angry at the United States instead.

:-?

:D

:lol:

:rotfl:

Now Spain has nothing to worry about but Muslums blowing up their trains:88) :down: :nope: :doh:

[geetrue]

They will pass the bill eventually so President Bush can finish the five and half billion dollar fence.

I feel sorry for the poor fruit pickers and at the same time I wonder how the skilled labor illegally here can take my son's job away from him, because they don't charge as much is the reason why.

My son tried several years ago to get a job picking fruit over in Chico, California. They wouldn't hire him because he didn't speak spanish and that's the truth.

The fence is good to keep not only illegal mirgrant's from walking across, but it is also good to give the terroist another option of gaining entry to America, besides just wading across the Rio Grande River.

It'll pass, because deals are being made even as we speak, uh type.

[waste gate]

I don't trust the white house or congress one iota. The fence bill has already been passed but congress didn't appropriate any money to build it. 'Fool me once its your fault, fool me twice its mine'. That is why their is such a fight over this bill. How many more lies are we willing to accept on this immigration threat.

[Tchocky]

Woah, House members saying to the President that their support on Iraq is contingent on what happens on illegal immigration?

That's......professional :-?

[Heibges]

I think they did what they had to do in light of moving 12 million people is an impossible task.

The fence thing is stupid out will only lead, as it has already, to increased bureaucracy and corruption. Go back a millenium and you find that more often than not, the Mongols bribed their way past the guards on the Great Wall of China.

Do we really want to follow the model set by the two great wall builders of the presnt day: the Soviet Union and Israel?

[The Avon Lady]

Do we really want to follow the model set by the two great wall builders of the presnt day: the Soviet Union and Israel?
The former kept people in. The latter keeps terrorists out. And it works for the most part.

But suit yourself. :roll:

[Iceman]

Always thought this was a chilling line...

"Agent Smith (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0915989/): I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure. "

http://fc02.deviantart.com/images/large/icon/emoticons/Matrix_emoticon_II.gif

[Yahoshua]

Well, one things for sure. I'm already looking at foreign properties if TSHTF

[The Avon Lady]

I'm already looking at foreign properties if TSHTF
Skip London. :roll:

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/5752/z12896570fe1.jpg

[P_Funk]

On a separate note, it'll be coming to Canada soon.

http://www.wnd.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56332 I'm really scared about this kind of stuff. But if this goes through its our own fault completely. We elected Harper even though he's openly in awe of Brian Mulroney and last time I checked we were supposed to hate him up here. That and the bloody NDP effectively handed power to Harper and gave him the chance to legitimize his position and now this crap is coming at us.

Its hard to believe that the legacy of Pierre Trudeau is already dead. It was right after his tenure too. America keeps takingliberties with Canada's sovereignty all the time. Trying to assert control of the North-West Passage, flouting the NAFTA agreement whenever it benefits Canada, sending DEA and ATF and Texas Rangers up here to be part of the process of law and order (RCMP are so corrupt). And CSIS already openly shares info on Canadian citizens with American agencies, often in attempts to get criminals arrested in the US where laws are stricter.

Trudeau was a nationalist and when I look back at the things he said and did I believe that it really would have felt special to be a Canadian at that time. Now we're selling our selves out and slowly losing those few distinctions we have as a nation from the US. We've always been somewhat complicit with American Foreign policy and we've been a part of the Military Industrial Complex since the end of WW2. But now it seems as if the businessmen we elect and trying to make a merger with the US. People wonder how I can be such a pinko-commie liberal, but this sh!t is what keeps me yapping.

Interesting that we've managed to enter a Canadian vein into this very American topic. :cool:

[The Avon Lady]

Everybody, let's swing: I've got the Amnesty Bill Blues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04b2bz9u8Uc)!

[The Avon Lady]

Its hard to believe that the legacy of Pierre Trudeau is already dead.
Oh please! :roll:

Legacy, part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eueOLhynoM)

Legacy, part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K-C1sG-hbY)


UPDATE: Ahahahahaha (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70lL9DYZ8Ak) :rotfl:

[Yahoshua]

I'm already looking at foreign properties if TSHTF
Skip London. :roll:

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/5752/z12896570fe1.jpg

Europe isn't factoring in at all in my plans. I'm looking more to hook up with some buddies in either the Phillipines or Australia. Good places to sit out the fun there (depending on where you are).

[The Avon Lady]

Europe isn't factoring in at all in my plans. I'm looking more to hook up with some buddies in either the Phillipines or Australia. Good places to sit out the fun there (depending on where you are).
The Phillipines is an up and coming Islamic Asian target (http://www.jihadwatch.org/cgi-bin/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=1&search=philippines) for a Sha'aria state.

[Oberon]

Countries really need to start closing their borders to any form of immigration, I've long since argued that for Britain, that enough is enough. Britain has the advantage over Spain that it's an island, and therefore (hopefully) a little easier to monitor if anyone can be bothered.
Hitmans friends idea bears merit but I dare say would be quashed by the EUnichs.
It can be argued that we are to blame in some respects for this situation, it can be argued (and it is certainly of my opinion) that the Allies were to blame for World War II, by creating the situation for Hitler to rise to power....but, at the end of the day, we can sit back and hindsight until we're blue in the face (or hind) and it's not going to do a blind bit of difference. Action must be taken.

BTW: AL I love the pic!! :D

[The Avon Lady]

Britain has the advantage over Spain that it's an island, and therefore (hopefully) a little easier to monitor if anyone can be bothered.
Another disadvantage to Spain is up and coming (http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/017094.php).

Good luck, Europe!

[P_Funk]

Its hard to believe that the legacy of Pierre Trudeau is already dead. Oh please! :roll:

Legacy, part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eueOLhynoM)

Legacy, part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K-C1sG-hbY)


UPDATE: Ahahahahaha (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70lL9DYZ8Ak) :rotfl:
Very nice. Spit on the memory of my country's greatest leader. Your ignorance is nearly as offensive as your mockery. I suppose you get some satisfaction from this of course, obviously since you choose to ignore your intellect and make shots like this. A completely fatuous reamark without any real point other than your repeatedly obvious disdain for the left. People around here make legitimate criticisms of Israel and the USA and it gets branded anti-US or anti-Israel, yet you don't hesitate to make such an obviously inflammatory remark in passing.

You really are pathetic, AL.

[Yahoshua]

Europe isn't factoring in at all in my plans. I'm looking more to hook up with some buddies in either the Phillipines or Australia. Good places to sit out the fun there (depending on where you are).
The Phillipines is an up and coming Islamic Asian target (http://www.jihadwatch.org/cgi-bin/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=1&search=philippines) for a Sha'aria state.

The MILF (Moro Islamic Liberation Front) Is based mostly in the south and they're well contained on a single island. The rest of the country has to deal with communists.

I'll be right smack in the middle of the island chain....so it'll be against either commies or islamics, or neither.

[waste gate]

Perhaps the US should do this.

Mexico's Immigration Law: Let's Try It Here at Home:
Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:
* in the country legally;
* have the means to sustain themselves economically;
* not destined to be burdens on society;
* of economic and social benefit to society;
* of good character and have no criminal records; and * contributors to the general well-being of the nation.


http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=14632

[The Avon Lady]

Its hard to believe that the legacy of Pierre Trudeau is already dead. Oh please! :roll:

Legacy, part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eueOLhynoM)

Legacy, part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K-C1sG-hbY)


UPDATE: Ahahahahaha (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70lL9DYZ8Ak) :rotfl:
Very nice. Spit on the memory of my country's greatest leader.
If appropriate, I will not hesitate. But the 2 documentaries speak for themselves.
Your ignorance is nearly as offensive as your mockery.
Pray tell, dear sir, what ignorance are you referring to? That lots of Canadians adored, nay, worshipped Trudeau? Check. That he held Canada together in more ways than one? Check. But above and beyond that, to swoon at the sound of his name and ignore his hero worship of some of the brutalist regimes since WWII? Well, that sir, would appear to be your ignorance. Check.
I suppose you get some satisfaction from this of course, obviously since you choose to ignore your intellect and make shots like this.
Snore.
A completely fatuous reamark without any real point other than your repeatedly obvious disdain for the left.
If the shoe fits and if justifiably so, then what exactly is your gripe?
People around here make legitimate criticisms of Israel and the USA and it gets branded anti-US or anti-Israel,
Some are legitimate, others are absolutely convoluted.
yet you don't hesitate to make such an obviously inflammatory remark in passing.

You really are pathetic, AL.
Who cares! :roll:

[P_Funk]

Your ignorance is nearly as offensive as your mockery. Pray tell, dear sir, what ignorance are you referring to? That lots of Canadians adored, nay, worshipped Trudeau? Check. That he held Canada together in more ways than one? Check. But above and beyond that, to swoon at the sound of his name and ignore his hero worship of some of the brutalist regimes since WWII? Well, that sir, would appear to be your ignorance. Check. And what does his relationship with Castro have to do with my adoration for his leadership as a Canadian nationalist anyway? That was how he was brought up. By pointing out this irrelavent point of contention you are changing the focus of the discussion so that you can comfortably critcize Trudeau without actually being on topic.


A completely fatuous reamark without any real point other than your repeatedly obvious disdain for the left. If the shoe fits and if justifiably so, then what exactly is your gripe? That you made it obviously. Are you admitting your attempt to piss me off outside of any constructive conversational purpose?

yet you don't hesitate to make such an obviously inflammatory remark in passing.

You really are pathetic, AL. Who cares! :roll: I should hope those people around here who enjoy the community would care that someone is just trying to make fire where there is none.

[The Avon Lady]

Your ignorance is nearly as offensive as your mockery. Pray tell, dear sir, what ignorance are you referring to? That lots of Canadians adored, nay, worshipped Trudeau? Check. That he held Canada together in more ways than one? Check. But above and beyond that, to swoon at the sound of his name and ignore his hero worship of some of the brutalist regimes since WWII? Well, that sir, would appear to be your ignorance. Check. And what does his relationship with Castro have to do with my adoration for his leadership as a Canadian nationalist anyway? That was how he was brought up. By pointing out this irrelavent point of contention you are changing the focus of the discussion so that you can comfortably critcize Trudeau without actually being on topic.


A completely fatuous reamark without any real point other than your repeatedly obvious disdain for the left. If the shoe fits and if justifiably so, then what exactly is your gripe? That you made it obviously. Are you admitting your attempt to piss me off outside of any constructive conversational purpose?

yet you don't hesitate to make such an obviously inflammatory remark in passing.

You really are pathetic, AL. Who cares! :roll: I should hope those people around here who enjoy the community would care that someone is just trying to make fire where there is none.
Necessary clarifications:

1. Anyone who proclaims here, as you have done, that he "adores" a western leader who himself hero-worshipped the likes of Mao and Castro, should expect a response here. Otherwise, keep your adorations to yourself or at least do not assume that your sentiments are shared by the entire world.

2. My purpose was to point out the other side of what you brought up for conversation, which I'm sure many posters here were not even old enough to know or remember and for others to have forgotten or overlooked. Life is not only about you. Live with it.

3. When I said "who cares", I was responding to your insults at me.

[P_Funk]

Necessary clarifications:

1. Anyone who proclaims here, as you have done, that he "adores" a western leader who himself hero-worshipped the likes of Mao and Castro, should expect a response here. Otherwise, keep your adorations to yourself or at least do not assume that your sentiments are shared by the entire world.

2. My purpose was to point out the other side of what you brought up for conversation, which I'm sure many posters here were not even old enough to know or remember and for others to have forgotten or overlooked. Life is not only about you. Live with it.

3. When I said "who cares", I was responding to your insults at me. 1. His history of having an interest or friendship with Castro was not part of the discussion and as such had no material value to the topic at hand.

2. Your purpose, if as you represent it, was coloured by your own disdain for non-complimentary ideas and as such any legitimate criticism was heaved with a liberal share of something other than just academic intent. Having said that it still has nothing to do with what he was being used as an example for. George W. Bush's alleged relationship with the Saudi Royal family has nothing to do with his domestic policies on education or health care. It has a prejudicial value since its an irrelavent detail to the topic of discussion.

3. Sorry for my 4 words of insult. I'll try and keep those out of my replies in the future. I don't know why you quoted the other 13 words of legitimate criticism along with it though.

[The Avon Lady]

Necessary clarifications:

1. Anyone who proclaims here, as you have done, that he "adores" a western leader who himself hero-worshipped the likes of Mao and Castro, should expect a response here. Otherwise, keep your adorations to yourself or at least do not assume that your sentiments are shared by the entire world.

2. My purpose was to point out the other side of what you brought up for conversation, which I'm sure many posters here were not even old enough to know or remember and for others to have forgotten or overlooked. Life is not only about you. Live with it.

3. When I said "who cares", I was responding to your insults at me.
1. His history of having an interest or friendship with Castro was not part of the discussion and as such had no material value to the topic at hand.
That's life!

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8379/schiavosnsimagespr9.jpg

Heh. :p
2. Your purpose, if as you represent it, was coloured by your own disdain for non-complimentary ideas and as such any legitimate criticism was heaved with a liberal share of something other than just academic intent. Having said that it still has nothing to do with what he was being used as an example for. George W. Bush's alleged relationship with the Saudi Royal family has nothing to do with his domestic policies on education or health care. It has a prejudicial value since its an irrelavent detail to the topic of discussion.
Moderators, if you feel it necessary, please cut out the relevant posts and paste them in a new "Trudeau" thread.
3. Sorry for my 4 words of insult. I'll try and keep those out of my replies in the future. I don't know why you quoted the other 13 words of legitimate criticism along with it though.
I found the other 13 words to be your wishful thinking. My "who cares" applied to them as well. :roll:

[P_Funk]

That's life! What does that mean? That you dont much care for the logical conventions of argument? That being off topic for the sake of being contrary is alright?

I believe thats in the same vein as flaming.

[The Avon Lady]

I believe thats in the same vein as flaming.
Then by all means, report me to Gizzmoe. :p

[P_Funk]

I believe thats in the same vein as flaming. Then by all means, report me to Gizzmoe. :p
Your first witticism to actually made me smile.

[Takeda Shingen]

That's enough for now.

The Management