SH3 finished ?

[bigboywooly]

Ah doubt it

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2125/subsimav0.jpg

:rock:

[Kptlt. Siegmann]

The legacy of the U-Boats will live on forever. I don't imagine SH4 surpassing SH3 anytime soon. I just don't like the US Submarines, most of them seem like the same boat to me, then again, I'm not all that much educated about them either, unlike the U-Boats:zzz:

[Kaleun Volk]

I would not trade my copy of SHIII for SHIV. Period.:rock:

[GoldenRivet]

its not that I dont like US Subs... its just that Ubi knew what the majority of players wanted

more compartments
More units
fight enemy subs
more diverse missions

etc etc etc

what they gave us was more or less the complete opposite...

less compartments
same or similar units
no sub v sub action
more diverse missions some of whoch you can never accomplish and the ones that require troop insertions the dingys either flip over and sink or row around in circles for infiniti or you cant find the downed airmen.

im sure that in a year or so SH4 will be awesome NO THANKS TO UBI but only because if the hard work of modders.

I have only been sickeningly dissapointed in video games twice in my life... blazing angels and SH4.

i know there are SH4 die hards out there who oogle over clear water, grass and rocks... but give me a break default SH4 down right stinks, ubi released a product KNOWING that it was unfinished, KNOWING that it stunk, and KNOWING that unpaid modders would not only beta test their product but would make it 100 times better over time.

[Kptlt. Siegmann]

i know there are SH4 die hards out there who oogle over clear water, grass and rocks... but give me a break default SH4 down right stinks, ubi released a product KNOWING that it was unfinished, KNOWING that it stunk, and KNOWING that unpaid modders would not only beta test their product but would make it 100 times better over time.

Agreed, and my many thanks to those modders out there who work so hard and provide so much to our community, it is really appreciated! I haven't the slightest clue about modding, but I'm doing my part for the community by donating to Subsim. A great bunch of Kapitans and Commanders here:ahoy:

[JScones]

Definitately not:

Silent Hunter 4: Wolves of the Pacific (119 Viewing)
SH4 Mods Workshop (75 Viewing)

Silent Hunter III (134 Viewing)
SH3 Mods Workshop (113 Viewing)

Must be night time in America. :)

[joea]

i know there are SH4 die hards out there who oogle over clear water, grass and rocks... but give me a break default SH4 down right stinks, ubi released a product KNOWING that it was unfinished, KNOWING that it stunk, and KNOWING that unpaid modders would not only beta test their product but would make it 100 times better over time.
Please... the missions work fine if you follow the rules...er well if you figure them out cause the manual is sh#$ :down: As I said, the layout for crew manangement and damage control is far better than Sh3, oh and JScones i don't see much difference in the numbers, and stop with "only Yanks are interested in the Pacific" thing, by that logic no Brits should play Sh3 since you're sinking your own ships.

That said Sh3 still rules :rock:, hope to finish my patrol today...if it doesn't finish me. :eek:

[Jimbuna]

i know there are SH4 die hards out there who oogle over clear water, grass and rocks... but give me a break default SH4 down right stinks, ubi released a product KNOWING that it was unfinished, KNOWING that it stunk, and KNOWING that unpaid modders would not only beta test their product but would make it 100 times better over time.
Please... the missions work fine if you follow the rules...er well if you figure them out cause the manual is sh#$ :down: As I said, the layout for crew manangement and damage control is far better than Sh3, oh and JScones i don't see much difference in the numbers, and stop with "only Yanks are interested in the Pacific" thing, by that logic no Brits should play Sh3 since you're sinking your own ships.

That said Sh3 still rules :rock:, hope to finish my patrol today...if it doesn't finish me. :eek:

Well in that case Joe....if applying the same logic...what's a Canadian or anyone else that lives in the Commnonwealth playing it for ? :hmm:
I can only come to the conclusion that SH3 is 'borderless' because of the great work that modders (JS being a classic example) have done to the game :rock: :arrgh!:

[Camaero]

I'm a yank (damn proud too:lol: ) and SHIII helped me appreciate U boats even more than I already did. I love them, I love their stories, and I still love SHIII. That said, SHIV has helped me to appreciate our good ol sub boys as well. Both sides is VERY interesting if you only read into it a little.

Either way I will keep playing both. The gameplay of SHIII is just awesome, but there are some gameplay elements of SHIV that is great as well. Once the modders fix the other problems, I may start to have a hard time coming back... Who knows.:cool:

I do think SHIII's days will be numbered when, or if GWX moves on. I know GWX is what has kept SHIII alive for me at least.

[JScones]

JScones i don't see much difference in the numbers, and stop with "only Yanks are interested in the Pacific" thing, by that logic no Brits should play Sh3 since you're sinking your own ships.
I didn't say that at all. If I was saying that, how could I account for, or justify, the numbers that were in the SH4 forums at that time??? For as you state, the numbers were similar. No, I'm simply saying that the true test will come at American prime time simply because Americans make up a large percentage of overall SubSim visitors. ;)

Geez, talk about 1 + 1 = 3. :doh:

And btw, I love SH3 because I *can* sink British ships. Beating the poms shouldn't just be limited to the Australian cricket team or the Australian soccer team or the Australian rugby league team... :rotfl:

[joea]

Sorry guys, I need to go out a bit. :-? Things at subsim have been tense lately and I got into a minor tiff over another sim (Il2) here yesterday and over at another forum got really annoyed with a what I am sure is a secret Nazi sympathiser. :nope:

Your right JScones, go and sink those pom ships. :rotfl:Oh and jimbuna, I can sink Canadian and Greek ships no problem, and have. :arrgh!: Errr well can't tell if they're Canuck or Brit, same darn flag...was a bit before our Maple Leaf.

Bye guys I think I'll take a breather from posting for a few days...especially after the other website thread which was interesting at first but now...:dead:

[johan_d]

Its the fatality I think thats makes SH3 shine.. knowing that you cant win, but try.
The atlantic has its athmosphere, lot of enemies, and thrills.

Sh4 is not much better, even worse on performance here, and dont give me much more. Sh3 all the way!

[ReallyDedPoet]

what's a Canadian or anyone else that lives in the Commnonwealth playing it for ? :hmm:
I can only come to the conclusion that SH3 is 'borderless' because of the great work that modders (JS being a classic example) have done to the game :rock: :arrgh!:

Canadian here, playing SH4, also playing SH3 GWX:up:, live on PEI not far from Halifax, one of the bigger Canadian ports in WW2, lots of convoys formed up there. In the end it is just a game, those who took part in the war, the soldiers, were not much different from each other at the end of the day.

By the way I can almost park my sub in my backyard in SH3:o

RDP

[GlobalExplorer]

I have SHIV but I really really didn`t like it. Has it become better with the patches? I didn`t even try :roll: ..

[Jimbuna]

And btw, I love SH3 because I *can* sink British ships. Beating the poms shouldn't just be limited to the Australian cricket team or the Australian soccer team or the Australian rugby league team... :rotfl:

Yeah yeah yeah ....and there are just as many sheep over here as where I originated from ...:rotfl:

[Ducimus]

i know there are SH4 die hards out there who oogle over clear water, grass and rocks... .

Thats acutally the last reason i'd like SH4. My two biggest reasons, and im not sure which i hold more value over then the other, they both kind of have equal weight with me.

1.) The campaign's varied mission types. This helps with gameplay immensly, rather then the same old, dull, tedius, same thing ive done for the last two years, "Go here and patrol for 24 hours".

2.) US Fleet boats. My admitdly first love of WW 2 subs. Reading novels by Edward Beach is what got me into subsims to begin with. So combined with the varied campaign play, its like a double treat. To that end though, i admit, to the uniformed or casual view they all do look alike, but theres a reason for that. Id explain that, but i dont think anyone here could care less.



But to go back on topic, is SH3 finished? Of course not. I think the software that is SH3 maybe close to, or at, its technical limits in terms of what it can support or render in game, but it is by no means finished. What would ever put that silly thought in anyones mind? Truthfully this topic strikes me as a little xenophobic. SH3 isn't going anywhere, i think people can rest easy.

[ReallyDedPoet]

I have SHIV but I really really didn`t like it. Has it become better with the patches? I didn`t even try :roll: ..

Yes it has gotten better, the mod Ducimus has just completed: Trigger Maru 1.0 , an evolution of FTT, is quite well done. He has plans to further develop it as well. Some other great mods also.

Great time to be into sims with having the option to be in the Atlantic or Pacific:up:

RDP

[Keelbuster]

its not that I dont like US Subs... its just that Ubi knew what the majority of players wanted

more compartments
More units
fight enemy subs
more diverse missions

etc etc etc

what they gave us was more or less the complete opposite...

less compartments
same or similar units
no sub v sub action
more diverse missions some of whoch you can never accomplish and the ones that require troop insertions the dingys either flip over and sink or row around in circles for infiniti or you cant find the downed airmen.

im sure that in a year or so SH4 will be awesome NO THANKS TO UBI but only because if the hard work of modders.

I have only been sickeningly dissapointed in video games twice in my life... blazing angels and SH4.

i know there are SH4 die hards out there who oogle over clear water, grass and rocks... but give me a break default SH4 down right stinks, ubi released a product KNOWING that it was unfinished, KNOWING that it stunk, and KNOWING that unpaid modders would not only beta test their product but would make it 100 times better over time.

Exactly how I feel.:nope: On the bright side, now that I have a system that can run SH3 flawlessly, I always have the best that the SH series has to offer.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Ah doubt it

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2125/subsimav0.jpg

:rock:

(Evil laughter from the flotilla office...:rock: :rock: :rock: I foresee "SH5 - TOTAL GLOBAL WORLD WAR II" submarine simulations in the near-ish future.)

[Umfuld]

My brother played this game called Tribes Annihilation online for many years and finally got me to get into last Fall. It was part of a seris of Tribes games.
They no longer make the game and it is available for free download. From what he tells me this version was the most popular and newer versions of the game never got the same following.
It has an active modding community and still many online players 10 years or so after its release.

Just because there is a newer version of a series doesn't mean it's better.

Eventually the mods may stop more or less, and activity on this board may slow way down, but that doesn't mean people won't still be playing it.
I for one will probably never buy another sub sim game but will continue to play SHIII until my disc is too scratched to load anymore.

[daft]

Of course SH3 isn't dead. It's all up to the people who play it, and that is still a healthy number of people. Personally SH4 has given me more enjoyment than SH3 ever managed, but that's just a matter of personal taste. As Ducimus pointed out earlier, this thread does come across as a bit xenophobic. I think there is enough submarine love around for two really good subsims. :)

[bigboywooly]

Its all you lot who make it xenophobic

The original posting was to show that the amount of ppl veiwing each game wasnt that different
Exactly the same in the case of mods forum

If ppl choose to see that as taking one game over the other then it not my fault :roll:

[daft]

Its all you lot who make it xenophobic

The original posting was to show that the amount of ppl veiwing each game wasnt that different
Exactly the same in the case of mods forum

If ppl choose to see that as taking one game over the other then it not my fault :roll:

No need to get upset. As I said, there's plenty of love for everyone. :sunny:

[bigboywooly]

:rotfl:

I dont get upset
Makes no odds to me what anyone else plays only what I play

[daft]

:rotfl:

I dont get upset
Makes no odds to me what anyone else plays only what I play

That's the spririt! Once the war's over and I've run out Japanese merchants to shoot at, I'll find the POW-camp you're held in and buy you a beer. ;) :sunny:

[johan_d]

Guys, there is something with the Atlantic and Nordsee, its evil, ist about ghosts, of men who dwell around and lurcking in the deep..

I am sure that the most haunted waters are those of the Sh3 settings, we all know, we all lost something out there..

Its that evil thing, that ungrippable feeling, that athmosphere.. its like The Bunker on sea, unsayable, unspeakable, just waiting in the forg, the mist, the uncertainty, the fast comming death...

The setting for SH3 will imho Never surpass the Sh4 setting, just read on on the web, on uboat.net an such.. its ghostly waters out there, spooky, but off course we arent affraid.

That makes the difference.. or dont it?
:o

[bigboywooly]

:rotfl:

I dont get upset
Makes no odds to me what anyone else plays only what I play

That's the spririt! Once the war's over and I've run out Japanese merchants to shoot at, I'll find the POW-camp you're held in and buy you a beer. ;) :sunny:

Nah I will be sunning it in South America
:rotfl:

Be rich after selling my uboot :yep:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

:rotfl:

I dont get upset
Makes no odds to me what anyone else plays only what I play

That's the spririt! Once the war's over and I've run out Japanese merchants to shoot at, I'll find the POW-camp you're held in and buy you a beer. ;) :sunny:

Nah I will be sunning it in South America
:rotfl:

Be rich after selling my uboot :yep:

or on the oceanfloor just before the war ends :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[bigboywooly]

Ah more likely the truth but I can dream of a sunny end instead of a watery grave :nope:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

yeah... my vision is... sunning with my crew on bismarck's deck in 1945 :rotfl: :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[KeptinCranky]

to do list in sh3....

Admittedly, most of these are not very doable but you've gotta strive ever forward :arrgh!:

-sail to New York, shoot miss Liberty right between the eyes (nothing against americans, just I read a book about something like this once) and think about the propaganda value...:oops:

-navigate the suez canal, because it's there and it should therefore be possible :hmm:

-sinking the Tirpitz for BDU ordering me to PA91 then defecting to Sweden or something (going Naval??)

-seeing how much damage a god-class Uboat (unlimited torpedoes and fuel) can do...never played the game on very low realism

also I'd like to figure out how the Kriegsmarine managed to get all those Type 34 destroyers into the Med

Nope, sh3 ain't dead yet, no sirree Bernhard