Happy Hunting Grounds

[Brag]

To all Kaleuns!

We need your help to compile enemy shipping routes!

Recently I started making detailed notes of shipping routes. Like all intelligence gathered, the observations are fragmentary and need more inputs.

The way I identify a hot area is:

Either a contact report or a real contact. This is followed up by actual intercepts to confirm traffic frequency.

A good example: On my way home a contact appeared too far to act on it. But I would be transiting the area in a day or two.

I drew a course line on the chart. Reaching the location, I patroled this line for two days. During that period one large freighter (11K) and two small freighters appeared. Not a bad place to get tonnage.

One needs to be precise as a few kilomters difference you could end up out of hearing range and each ship's path will be slightly different.

Here is my description of this fairly good hunting ground:

AM51 20 KMS south of northern edge of grid square. Direction of route 095-275. GWX 1.03

Here is another heavily traveled sea lane:


Center of Gibraltar Strait to 20 KMS of Cape Sao Vicente. Some ships take an arched route to the north (westbound traffic mostly). Big tonnage possible here. GWX 1.03

In your reports Include what mode you're using as traffic is quite different in the mods.

[ReM]

Here is my description of this fairly good hunting ground:

AM51 20 KMS south of northern edge of grid square. Direction of route 095-275. GWX 1.03



You might want to use another sytem to precisely designate the location.....

Use the old German grid system for instance....

http://uboat.net/maps/images/grid_quad_41.gif

Read about it here (http://uboat.net/maps/grid.html)

Your location would be something like AM 5133 or 5132

[Brag]

Rem:

Thanks for your imput! :D Good idea for one spot (datum)-- we're looking for a line to identify a route. So two of these locations are needed to establish a line. I use the projected course of a reported ship as a base line.

We also need to keep in mind that routes are not straight.

[KeptinCranky]

note: all this data has been gathered between september of 39 and april of 41
also I'm assuming GWX here,

BF17 to CG48 A good line to follow for outbound convoys, mostly cargos some tankers, sometimes a bigger warship.

the eastern half of AM36

CG94 except for grids 1 2 and 3 (but you knew that :up:)
also goes for CG86 although less so as well as CG95 grids 4 and 7

Any grid starting with BE3x mostly inbound convoys

AM17 18 19 and 01

AM53

and between 9-3-1940 until half of april 1940 definitely check out AF8325, but be there early or the nutcases in the Stukas will have sunk all the lovely troopships.

Now, obviously, looking at the map you will notice some of these areas are in shallow waters and definitely within aircraft range. This might result in big red exclamations along the lines of OMGWTFBBQ STAY OUT OF DER KANAL and so forth :D and I couldn't agree more, but sometimes that's the chance you take for nice tonnage :arrgh!:

other no go areas IMO anything starting with AN7x or AN8x, unless of course one is fond of mines and MTBs and planes in 20meters of water or so :D

I've also sort of come up with a no go chart as follows


with a type II sub in 1939 don't go near anything with less than 25 meters of water

add 50 meters to that figure for:

a: type of submarine above II (so add 50 for a VII 100 for a IX)
B: every year after 1939

Ignore tables at own risk or for more than 20k tonnes of warship :arrgh!:

[Brag]

:D Thanks, Cranky!

We have a good start collecting info.

On my present patrol (Late May 1940) I stopped by the E-W sea lane crossing AM51 and stooged around for 48 hours. Made contact with 5 small freighters. they all came within visual contact without my need to change course.

It would have been excellent target practice for the gunnies in calmer weather.

[Brag]

Bump to give Kaleuns a chance to contribute. Come on, guys, time to share your knowledge!

[Sneaky_Pete]

AM51 here too Brag. I usually just hang around in that vicinity when I'm too lazy to go hunting elsewhere ;). It's Nov 15, 1939 in-game for me btw.

[KeptinCranky]

was gathering data tonight, went really well too, found a convoy, had just torpedoed the escorting Fiji and a c3, in my patrol area too BE67 when stupid power company had a surge, :damn::damn: game gone, pc reboots....gah!
will update this thread as relevant info becomes available...

on the matter of the north sea,
find the easternmost point of Scotland, north of Aberdeen, draw a circle about 75km from that point, if in a type II it's definitely a good place to lurk, lots of lone merchants and the occasional convoy, also lots of small fry (schooners and such) ignore those, wait for something big to come along (like HMS Hood) and sink that :|\\

Oh, as an aside, I saw some people mention this elsewhere and have experienced it repeatedly myself.....Passenger/Cargos what's up with those things :damn: are they made of high grade steel and filled with bubblewrap???

they just won't sink with one eel, and they're only 2000 tonnes, what's their weak spot? I'm not shooting any more till I know, it's just not worth it

oh well, If i find some other traffic hotspots I'll report in

Cranky out

[ReM]

Oh, as an aside, I saw some people mention this elsewhere and have experienced it repeatedly myself.....Passenger/Cargos what's up with those things :damn: are they made of high grade steel and filled with bubblewrap???

they just won't sink with one eel, and they're only 2000 tonnes, what's their weak spot? I'm not shooting any more till I know, it's just not worth it

oh well, If i find some other traffic hotspots I'll report in

Cranky out

I found that out too; I usually don't even engage them because they are so hard to sink.

If I can bag one using the deck gun I will happily send it the bottom, if not....I'll let it go because I am not gonna spend 3+ eels on such a meagre tonnage...

[TarJak]

I've managed a few P/C's with one eel. The problem is how much random damage you can do with one torp and the amount of hit points. If you have the time to be patient they can sink from flooding, but you have to hit them somewhere vital to get anywhere.

I think bow hits make a big difference because they then seem to drive down under the waves as the bow compatrment fills with water and the rest of the boat gets pulled under.

[Canovaro]

If we would just make notes together of all our encounters using the German grid system, we would have a whole lot of dots on a map.
There are map systems online like Google that we could use to make a community dot map, the dots together revealing real shipping lanes. However these maps do not have the German grid system.

I would be possible to do this manually.
To have a picture online and manually put the dots on it.
If everyone would send this person a list of contacts frequently, it could be updated like every week or so.

Downside would be that the closer to europe, the more dots you would have, because that's where we are most of the time.

Any thoughts?

[Avatar]

Just south of Ireland. I'm at the library and I dont know what grid loc. that is, but it's the only place I've seen convoys. I've only been to that area twice, as I've only been playing sh3 for about 2 weeks now.

Also, I might be dumb but I shoot at anything that comes across my path. It does take a few torps to sink a Passenger/Cargo, but I shoot anyway. I sometimes even use two torps against a Tramp. I dont know what the torpedo/ship ratio is for every ship, but I think that anything like a Tramp or DD gets one torpedo. Anything bigger gets more eels.

This brings me to a question, I'm playing GWX1.03 and SH3 Commander, and if you sink a ship is that like a "flaming datum" where other ships will avoid like the plague?

[Jimbuna]

BF13-15 :arrgh!:

[gabeeg]

The southern ends of CJ 72, 73 and Northern ends of CJ 75, 76. Right in the middle between Sardinia and Tunisia. This is a bottle neck where single ships and MKS, MKF, KMF, KMS must pass going east to west and west to east in the Med. It is narrow enough a bottle neck that by cruising in the middle you will pickup any contacts coming thru. I have only cruised this area so far for most of 1942, but I never go home with torpedos left (VII boat) :) So far during '42 the only down side is that most all trafic has been single ships so far and of those 70% were small or coastal merchants and ~30% C2's (I have also seen two Pyro's). Maybe someone else can post what can be expected during the later war years.

One other benefit is that in 1942 there is no allied air cover in this area...there is Axis aircover though...for better or worse...I had a ship sunk right under my nose as I lined up my attack on a Pyro...doh!

I am playing Stock (Heavily modded) with "ImprovedConvoys" Mod.

[FIREWALL]

IIRC the Wiki has some good areas on it. But that could be for vanilla SH3.

[KeptinCranky]

good point gabeeg, let's not forget the med

Only trouble I have is the need to identify every freighter because some of those are Italians and other axis ships supplying the afrika korps, and I'd hate to sink a ship full of brand new Tiger tanks destined for herr Rommel (I did that once :damn:)


also in gwx there's the suez canal, I didn't see any locks on the map, is it actually navigable in a uboat? say a type IXd2 heading for penang, or maybe a U-flak, it would be extremely silly and entirely wrong historically, but what fun :arrgh!:

[Brag]

Bloody passenger/cargoes.
I followed one forever. Damn thing would not sink. Must be carrying ping-pong balls. That is one ship not worth torpedoing.

[Canovaro]

Hmm this is getting off topic.:-? May I ask your attention to my post above?

No offence intended ;)

[KeptinCranky]

just got home form work, I like your idea canovaro,
anywhere I can find a more detailed gridmap online, the one that came with the game is not very clear and the ingame worldmap is nice but I can't alt-tab because of serious crashosity in the game if I even think about it :x

I'll just take notes for now :D

[KeptinCranky]

small update, had a very short patrol last night, no useful info, for now I intend to use a copy of the paper map to keep notes on,

I'm just about to start another IXc patrol to freetown, will make notes,

Canovaro, your online editable map idea sounds good, however, I'm not all that good with that sort of stuff (forum tags like [img are about my level :-?)

If there were such a thing though, I'd definitely help in adding contacts, eventually the single dots would sort of coalesce together to give clearly defined shipping lanes and hotspots that are not shown on the ingme map, they'd also indicate areas that see little or no traffic, although, it could also indicate that no-one is actually visiting them...a good example is BF73, I usually go past that or plow right through on the way to better things, but early on, say 39-40-41, when I happened to be there for some reason, can't recall why I did encounter some lone merchants there, big ones too IIRC

sorry for double post :oops:

[Canovaro]

Canovaro, your online editable map idea sounds good, however, I'm not all that good with that sort of stuff (forum tags like [img are about my level :-?)

Me neither, I can't program in html script languages or things like that, but I can make a website and host it myself.
If I would make a picture of the atlantic, I could update that with dots myself. This would be no problem at all to do.
But I would need the community to send me reports of the contacts.
That would be a fun alternative to the weird contact reports in SH3 ;)

I'm still thinking how to make it work.
We could work with colors to make a difference between the sorts of contacts.
Maybe put an arrow to show the general direction?
Would the contact map only be used for convoys? Or also single ships?
What about task forces and single war ships?
What about the mods? Only do this for stock? GWX?
Or use the colors to indicate different years?


If there were such a thing though, I'd definitely help in adding contacts, eventually the single dots would sort of coalesce together to give clearly defined shipping lanes and hotspots that are not shown on the ingme map,
That's the spirit :lol:


they'd also indicate areas that see little or no traffic, although, it could also indicate that no-one is actually visiting them...a good example is BF73, I usually go past that or plow right through on the way to better things, but early on, say 39-40-41, when I happened to be there for some reason, can't recall why I did encounter some lone merchants there, big ones too IIRC

Yes you're right, if everyone would use the same route, then there will be lots of contacts there. That's why I intend to use this only for the open ocean grids.
But still, I think most of us use the sea lanes provided by the SH3 map.
That's a bit of a problem.
Any ideas on this are welcome.


sorry for double post :oops:
What double post? I think that's already taken care of by the admin :)

[KeptinCranky]

well, that was brief patrol.....

ran into a convoy in thick fog, nearly got rammed by a black swan,:o hardly any relevant notes, then just when I have evaded the damn escort, the crew mutinies...they wouldn't respond to anything anymore, all the other buttons worked, but no response from the crew, couldn't manage the boat, couldn't navigate, had to exit the game...:damn::damn:

I generaly don't stick too close to the sealanes, at least, not when heading south, near britain, sure, but when heading to gibraltar or further the convoy lanes on the map are a tad out of the way, and i run into a lot of southbound convoys when sticking to a line from BF7 via CG1 4 and 7, then I choose to close in on the straits or go further south past the canaries

I'll post screenies of my near fatal encounter later, right now I'm just going to reboot the computer and do a type II patrol, or maybe start a career in the med...

later...

[Lagger123987]

Go to AN 16 for good hunting grounds, because it's full of big ships!

[KeptinCranky]

I've just been to AM92, because Donitz said so, befehl ist befehl and so on, was pretty hairy, and of course the big convoy comes along just when I've only one eel left. still sunk a tanker with it though.

then, when I've waited for dark, along comes a taskforce.....and no eels at all, very frustrating :damn:

came out with 40k tons this patrol and a promotion to full Kapitanleutnant, I think it might be time to retire this captain after this patrol (number 8)

oh well, below are some notes on contacts between 27-2-41 and 6-3-41

lone ships
BF1369 heading 0 slow, specific type unknown, failed intercept
BF2111 small freighter heading 60 9knts
AM9746 type unknown ssw slow
BF2419 large cargo ssw slow

larger groups

28-2-41 AM9734 convoy ssw, chages heading to due south, 5 knts

AM9242 TF 2 CL 4 DD heading 210 at least 20knts

Kpt. Lehmann noted in another thread that some changes will be made in GWX 1.04 might want to wait for that, who knows :hmm:

[The_Rus]

Bloody passenger/cargoes.
I followed one forever. Damn thing would not sink. Must be carrying ping-pong balls. That is one ship not worth torpedoing.

First they should be worth about double the tonnage. Also I have sunk one with about 3 rounds from a deck gun.:lol: Also AM52, it is the best for tonnage. I literally got 120K of tonnage out of one grid. :smug:
It was a good mix of convoys and single contacts.

[blue3golf]

I've had good luck from AM54 throught AM52, pretty good traffic.

[johan_d]

We need a database for this, a BDU hotline...

enter:
encounter:-- ship, convoy, dd, etc
datum;-- time of day
location;-- bdu grid, like be49
comment;-- severe dd here!, watch out.

results from the database just show the info.. all compiled together..

if anyone want to pick this off, joomla with a facile form will do.

I can have it up in short time, but it will be a telnet database connection, not webbased., nor your regular info connections, but sufficient. PM me in you are interrested?

[Brag]

Here is Tanker Alley:

BF 13.
On southern boundary measure 35 kms from western edge of grid. Then run a line 60 -240 degrees. draw second 60 degree line at 60 kms. You will find plenty of large tankers inside that corridor.15K tons per ship.

This also passes through NW corner of BF 17

[KeptinCranky]

Confirmed Brag!

I'd noticed this as well, but not that specific, I usually cruise through there on the way to my patrol grid, BF17 is like a box of chocolates....:D

concerning the Eastern Med as follows:

CO6477 seems to be a turnaround point for lots of small groups of warships, watch out there unless you like depthcharges for breakfast

Stick your sub about 50km below the first M in the word Mittelmeer on the map, draw a line parallel to the entire word Mittelmeer, sail along that, rinse and repeat, works like a charm plenty of lone-merchant allsorts, only trouble is they are often escorted by 1 or 2 DDs, also taskforces and groups of DDs heading for Tobruk

also look for two CLs at 15knts heading to Tobruk from CO42, gave me quite a shock spotting those only 4000 meters away and me still surfaced :o didn't see me thankfully

also CO35, look for an S class sub heading roughly 290 at 7knts, 1 fish wont take it out and it has a deckgun too, but it's worth shooting for coolness' sake, doesn't register as a kill though in the after action log but you do get the tonnage

[Canovaro]

We need a database for this, a BDU hotline...

enter:
encounter:-- ship, convoy, dd, etc
datum;-- time of day
location;-- bdu grid, like be49
comment;-- severe dd here!, watch out.

results from the database just show the info.. all compiled together..

if anyone want to pick this off, joomla with a facile form will do.

I can have it up in short time, but it will be a telnet database connection, not webbased., nor your regular info connections, but sufficient. PM me in you are interrested?

Johan_d, sounds interesting, but what excactly would this look like?
How to make this visual with a database?
See my ideas some posts before. I'm planning on working out a visual map.
In fact, I've already started.

[Brag]

A visual map showing sea lanes would be the greatest. So far, I have identified 3. Will check out a tanker route during my present patrol. (04 Aug. 1940) GWX 1.03

Gotta make sure that info provided by Kaleuns states what version of game they are using.

[Canovaro]

A visual map showing sea lanes would be the greatest. So far, I have identified 3. Will check out a tanker route during my present patrol. (04 Aug. 1940) GWX 1.03

Gotta make sure that info provided by Kaleuns states what version of game they are using.

That is exactly what I have in mind.

Can you confirm that GWX and the other supermods change shipping routes and frequencies (talking about merchants).

[Stoli]

We set sail to the AM52 promise land in our new Type III to see all this "Tonnage". All the way there we were forced under by air patrol, dogged by DD's and armed trawlers. Finally make it, setup patrol and surface to attack sound contacts only to find fishing boats. The crew's morale is down from the long journey, repeated air bombardments and boat repairs. I'm cursing the "faulty" radio reports about this area. We submerge and wait for darkness to cover our retreat. Four hours before nightfall, Warship, long range, moving slow and closing. One hour later half the hydrophone dial is nothing but slow spinning screws. Five completed patrols and NO convoys… Whatever is heading are way is massive.

Here’s the rub, the sea is calm, sun is up, visibility is high, there is no chance of surfacing to gain distance on the convoy (Air Patrols are relentless). Can’t waste the batteries, they will be needed for the escape. I’m leaning towards a strategy of putting one fish on each large freighter/tanker, going deep, reload and come back at after DD’s have left to finish of the wounded. Or would it be best to salvo two large ones and assure the kill?

[johan_d]

We need a database for this, a BDU hotline...

enter:
encounter:-- ship, convoy, dd, etc
datum;-- time of day
location;-- bdu grid, like be49
comment;-- severe dd here!, watch out.

results from the database just show the info.. all compiled together..

if anyone want to pick this off, joomla with a facile form will do.

I can have it up in short time, but it will be a telnet database connection, not webbased., nor your regular info connections, but sufficient. PM me in you are interrested?
Johan_d, sounds interesting, but what excactly would this look like?
How to make this visual with a database?
See my ideas some posts before. I'm planning on working out a visual map.
In fact, I've already started.
I dont think it is easy with a map, with so much ships sailing around it may be cluttered like hell.
Maybe a simple database, where one enters a grid name, like BE, and a year and month. Once can then see what ships are reported that month in that sector. Like this:

Query: BE 1942 04

Result:
BE10 merchant
BE25 destroyer
BE45 convoy

Possibly with comments of the Kaleun who entered it in the database.
Also, a date can also be used, so that when one enters a date, yy/mm/dd the database gives results for a week after the date too.
It could be presented on a map, in one knows how.. must be doable. :o

[Canovaro]

I think we could do both!
We practically need the same contact info from the community.

I would need:

Type: Single merchant
Grid: BE342
Year: 1941
Mod: GWX
Heading: SSW

[KeptinCranky]

I think we could do both!
We practically need the same contact info from the community.

I would need:

Type: Single merchant
Grid: BE342
Year: 1941
Mod: GWX
Heading: SSW

don't forget speed estimate slow/medium/fast and if actually encountered and attacked (or spotted and left alone) type and more specific speed

pasting those onto a map, to eventually form clear shipping lanes would definitely work and noting the mod(s) involved seems fairly important since I do suspect changes made in convoy routes by GWX at least, I'm encountering convoys where i never saw 'em before using RUB and/or stock sh3

[Brag]

U-123 The Happy Hunting Grounds research ship, confirms that Tanker Allee really exists. One large and one medium tankers sinking. 26,733 tons.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o207/Braguine/fsscr541.jpg

[Canovaro]

I think we could do both!
We practically need the same contact info from the community.

I would need:

Type: Single merchant
Grid: BE342
Year: 1941
Mod: GWX
Heading: SSW

don't forget speed estimate slow/medium/fast and if actually encountered and attacked (or spotted and left alone) type and more specific speed

pasting those onto a map, to eventually form clear shipping lanes would definitely work and noting the mod(s) involved seems fairly important since I do suspect changes made in convoy routes by GWX at least, I'm encountering convoys where i never saw 'em before using RUB and/or stock sh3
Yes every supermod gets its own map, and the years 39-45 will be in 7 colors from white to red.

Don't know about speed and attack info, I don't think that is relevant here. We want to know if and what we will likely encounter when we go to a certain spot, not how fast they go imo.
Historically that would have been vital info, but not in this project imo.

I'm already working on it now.
The biggest challenge is to keep the graphic file size as low as possible. I work with gif's, it's working out alright.
Soon we will have a community contact collection map.
Hey that sounds good..

:)

[Canovaro]

U-123 The Happy Hunting Grounds research ship, confirms that Tanker Allee really exists. One large and one medium tankers sinking. 26,733 tons.

Apparently the Happy Hunting Grounds research ship's role is not limited to research. Nice tonnage!

[Brag]

[quote=KeptinCranky][quote=Canovaro]I think we could do both!
We practically need the same contact info from the community.

I'm already working on it now.
The biggest challenge is to keep the graphic file size as low as possible. I work with gif's, it's working out alright.
Soon we will have a community contact collection map.
Hey that sounds good..

:)

Sounds great! This will save weeks of stooging around empty seas and will yield a dramatic rise in tonnage. :up:

[Telgriff]

Giving this a bump to keep it active!

Will have to go and check my grids tonight afterwork to find where I located the 3 convoys within 100km's of each other.

[KeptinCranky]

that's definitely helpful Telgriff

U-303
reports from grid CO59
8-11-41 2.00u

4-11-41 20.55u
CO6455 warship heading w 12kts

7-11-41 5.07u
CO6475 Large Cargo escorted by DD type unkown
wnw slow

7-11-41 20.12u
CO5989 warship reported heading 10 14knts detected leaving Tobruk
Intercepted and identified contact as 2 DDs 1DE
sank 2 evaded third
(they were coming straight for me what was I to do?) :D

[Canovaro]

sank 2 evaded third
(they were coming straight for me what was I to do?) :D
Panic!

:lol:

Thanks for the contact reports, Kaleuns!
I'll use these for testing. These will also be the first to appear on the live map.

Machen Sie weiter so.

[Brag]

U-123
Aug 1940, still trying to confirm tanker route. After spotting and sinking 2 tankers business been slow for a week.

[Jimbuna]

Be more aggressive :arrgh!:

:rotfl: :rotfl:

[Kptlt. Siegmann]

In one of my earlier careers ran into a rather big convoy June 5, 1940 almost exactly in the center of AN16, course WNW (draw a line that goes WNW (292.5 I think) from the center of AN16, then extend it the opposite direction and that was pretty much their course. Speed 7kts, lightly guarded by 5 Flower Class Corvettes and Armed Trawlers, sunk 11 out of 18 merchant ships in the convoy plus all escorts, including two that went to the aid of the stricken convoy. Expended all torps and deck gun ammo. Later on in the night I caught sight of a Destroyer (forgot class), leading two Large Cargos, course NW from the center of AM16. Hope that's detailed enough, I don't have a screenshot of the map, just the log from the patrol.

http://www.isaf.us/Paul_Siegmann/Log_5.html

GWX 1.03

Also, I don't know if you have something lined up, but I can provide hosting for this if you need it. My server package has:

4 Terabytes of bandwidth per month (4,000 GB)
Unlimited Disk Space
Unlimited Databases

[Canovaro]

Also, I don't know if you have something lined up, but I can provide hosting for this if you need it. My server package has:

4 Terabytes of bandwidth per month (4,000 GB)
Unlimited Disk Space
Unlimited Databases

Very generous! :rock:
I have a server myself but not by far the specs you have. I'll keep it in mind!
btw, can I have access, by ftp or something?

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

il post a screeny in about a hour or more... with verry correct intel :up:

year 1939. first patrol. U-i dont know yet. intel collecting boat.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

as i prommised. here is a starting intel of raiding scapa flow.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6581/sh3img175200705830453ao1.png

this is the most south enterance at the east side of scapa flow. the lines are the ship wreckages that are supposed to be blocking the enterance.

more intel following.

[Telgriff]

Excellent work Kaleun, look forward to more intel.

Have request for a safe passage into and through Gibraltar straight aswell...when your in town. :up:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

part 2 of scapa flow intel collecting mission.

the markings are DD's who are stational until you sink a ship.
the circkle's (dont know how to spell this) are V&W's on patrol... they move around there so be carefull when passing there. the west enterance is to avoid. there is a sub net (struck it once a while ago).

next intel will be from the scapa flow harbour.

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4355/sh3img175200711448312wi7.png

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

here is part 3.
now you can see how precise i was with the DD's.

now... in the harbour are 1 V&W (below on the left) and next to it is a troop transport. in the harbour itselve are a armed trawler (middle) a small merchant (right) a modern tanker (up) and a small tanker (left) above those 3 DD's are 2 fishing boats. and on the right next to the 2 DD's is a trawler (not a armed trawler)

and if you are lucky enuf you can spot a battleship here (mostly a revenge class)

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/425/sh3img175200712549968yu0.png

[Brag]

Good job there, Port Captain :D

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

what port is next... i think il take loch ewe

[Kptlt. Siegmann]

Very generous! :rock:
I have a server myself but not by far the specs you have. I'll keep it in mind!
btw, can I have access, by ftp or something?

Sure can, You should have recieved a message "For Captain's Eyes Only" from BdU, might want to unlock that cabinet and see what the file says:up:

[Brag]

Your choice, oh great scout of the shallow deep :yep:

The other crazies will follow your wake :D

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

Your choice, oh great scout of the shallow deep :yep:

The other crazies will follow your wake :D

after the scouting i sank the 2 tankers the armed trawler and a V&W DD :up:
in a deapth of only 17m. with a VIIB

[Kptlt. Siegmann]

Your choice, oh great scout of the shallow deep :yep:

The other crazies will follow your wake :D
after the scouting i sank the 2 tankers the armed trawler and a V&W DD :up:
in a deapth of only 17m. with a VIIB

I had my first casualty, my Type IID was made to surrender in a failed raid on Scapa Flow. I don't think submerged endurance was good enough.
Sorry to hear. Longevity and shallow water don't mix very well :dead:
unless your name is Kaleun Jochen Mohr :arrgh!: :arrgh!: :arrgh!:

Kaleun Jochen Mohr, you're making the Kriegsmarine very proud:up::()1:

[KeptinCranky]

U 303 reporting on tobruk 8-11-41

Intel for you harbor raiders out there, not my thing I must say, this info comes dearly bought :cry:, ah well in a little while Herr Rommel will be knocking on the door making their life miserable...

http://home.wanadoo.nl/omf17235/images/tobruk1941.jpg


To clarify, the subnet is from the coast to the southern lighthouse on the pier

stationary traffic detected

1 Vosper MTB
1 V&W DD
1 Landing Ship tank
1 Troop Transport
1 Medium Cargo
2 Small Tankers
at least 1 small trawler
1 Tramp Steamer



also in that vicinity:

8-11-41 8.46u CO5994 2 merchants in small convoy speed medium heading east

1 of those turned out to be a liberty cargo, sunk that but man those things pack a lot of guns, puts an auxiliary cruiser to shame, the other 1 was a passenger cargo (of course) had to deckgun it into submission only 55km off Tobruk, thankfully the weather was overcast and light fog

[xlbob]

U-45 reporting.

Here’s some hunting grounds from my last two patrols in December 1939 - Feb 1940:
3rd patrol which resulted in 106 K tonnes and 4th patrol with 131 K tonnes.

Patrol 3
Grid AM 29, December 20, 1939, at 20:42 a large merchant. (lone ship)
Grid AM 2, December 20-21, 1939, Large Convoy, HMS Nelson is in this Convoy, headed NNE.
Grid AM 29, December 24 1939, at 06:59, a Large Merchant (lone ship)
Grid AN 14, January 4, 1940 at 17:47, a large merchant.(lone ship)

Patrol 4
Grid AN 14, Feb 12 1940, at 21:04, Large Merchant (lone ship)
Grid AN 14, Feb 13, 1940 at 04:44, Large Merchant (lone ship)
Grid AN 14, Feb 13, 1940 at 12:46, Large Cargo (lone ship)
Grid AN 13, Feb 14 1940, at 06:21, Convoy, sunk 4 Large Cargoes.
Grid AN 13, Feb 24 1940, at 13:47, Large Cargo (lone ship)
Grid AN 13, Feb 24 1940, at 23:46, Large Cargo (lone ship)
Grid AN 13, Feb 24 1940, at 23:51, Large Cargo (lone ship)
Grid AN 13, Feb 25 1940, at 04:35, Large Merchant (lone ship)
Grid AN 43, Feb 28 1940, at 05:55, large Merchant (lone ship)

There were some smaller ships there, but I figure they’re not worth the torps :D

[Canovaro]

Very generous! :rock:
I have a server myself but not by far the specs you have. I'll keep it in mind!
btw, can I have access, by ftp or something?
Sure can, You should have recieved a message "For Captain's Eyes Only" from BdU, might want to unlock that cabinet and see what the file says:up:

:lol: I like your style! See PM.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

say... what about creating a intel sub skin...
like a black sub with golden inscription saying Intel Sub or somthing :hmm:
this idea is spooking in my head for some time

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

i decided to collect intel of Firth Of Forth harbour.
on my way thare i got bothered by a armed trawler and a V&W. i sank them both and continuing to the harbour.

edit: reached Firth Of Forth. but not whitout trouble. once your spotted by the enterance patrol (elco TB) you will get some anoying fly's around you.

stay submerged when going to the harbour. coastal bunkers are stationed at the smallest space. once passed this point there is no danger to reach the harbour.
there are NO SUBNETS or MINEFIELDS only a elco,armed trawler and 1 DD at the base
in the base there are large and small merchants also 1 tanker.

edit 2: after sinking the warships you gan go into the harbour to destroy the ships with your deck gun. be sure to be INSIDE at the end. there is a coastal bunker nearby.

here is a pict of what i have done in the harbour

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7707/sh3img185200702344937ys5.png

happy hunting to all of you

[KeptinCranky]

Howdy,

I've just been to Malta, but the weather was just too crummy to do anything useful except map the patrol patterns, which I did

also ran in to one mother of a taskforce unfortunately they spotted me so I had to evade contained 5 dido CL, a bunch of escorts, A King George V, the Nelson and the Rodney. :o

after this I made my way back to tobruk, ran into another taskforce, 2 fiji's this time, sank them both :arrgh!:

I'll compile the data on all sorts of contacts later and post it as well as the Malta harbor patrol patterns but right now I'm sleepy and work tomorrow:-?

good hunting

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

U-32. scouting at another brit harbour.

22 january 1940. hartlepool.

already sank the patroling V&W and almoast at the base.
curently no signs of subnets or minefields.

edit: reached the harbour.

units in Hartlepool Harbour :

2 medium merchants
2 small merchants
2 trampdampfer
1 patrolling armed trawler

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/4901/sh3img18520073436171wp3.png

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

26 februari 1940. U-36 intel collecting boat.

spotted a convoy in grid AN58 in the zoutheast corner sailing south with 7 knots.
it seems not to be guarded so i dont like it...

attacking anyway :arrgh!:

edit: I KNEW IT!!! there are DD's there. praying il survive it if i sink the DD's first.
if not... then it was good to know you all

[Canovaro]

Dear fellow Kaleuns,

I need two or three volunteers to testvisit the new Contact map project website before it goes beta.

It's just a test walk-around if everything works 100%. If you have suggestions about how it works, that would be very welcome too.
Plus I need comments and suggestions on the text because my English is often a bit basic if not wrong.

If you're matching these requirements and are enthousiastic about helping improving the project, and are very often reading your PM's, please send me one!.

:arrgh!:

[CapnMike U-69]

Hi all you flak-happy kaleuns!
To go back to the original 'Happy Hunting grounds' thread...even tho' the new 'contacts' map sounds very exciting and I can't wait to try it out

Got back from a seriously BAD day at work in a foul mood, and decided to give those pesky Tommies what for ! Fired up vanilla SH3 (Apple iMac 2Gig, 73% realism - no manual targetting), and set of in my type 1X, with type 3 control tower (2 zwillings and 1 heavy 37mm which is damned near useless except for fishing boats)

Couldn't be bothered to drag all the way accross to New York - so set off for BF13 from St.Naz as I read here that it had a good tanker lane in it.

However, as I passed Cornwall an Elco PT boat and, a Hunt DD and a V & W got in my way - followed a few mins after by 2 armed Trawlers. I vented my anger and blew thru' them all in a matter of a few minutes (real time) - and only 2 eels used.

The Armed trawlers came right at me, side by side, but my valiant 105mm deck gun made very short work of them, I think about 9 rounds total. Both sank side by side -virtually at the same time. I didn't surface until they were within 800 metres. The 2nd one took a round of HE directly from the bow, about 2 metres above the deck which blew away the wheelhouse, stack, boiler room and the deck gun all in one (lucky) shot. only needed 2 more rounds of AP under the bow, and a bit of flak fire, to sink her. He He!

Proceeded to BF13, but not patient enough to wait for the tabnkeerrs - got onyl a couple in the 3 days I was there. However, the Sunderlands, and few Hurri's, just kept on coming - usually a little after sun-up. Sometimes in groups of 6 at a time - and I think I got all of the last bunch of 6 that came together...

I must admit that I find Sunderland killing really EASY....but my tip for you is DON'T fire at them when they dive at you (maybe 5 or 6 rounds to put them off their aim) - but save your ammo and shoot at the A$$ of them Immediately as they have passed over you, a clean kill almost every time. Works for Fighters also, but for B24's you need to CRASH dive! In all I got 26 Sunderlands and a few Hurri's before i ran out of ammo.

Unfortunately I also lost several of my valiant crew including my Flak gunner of 16 patrol experience, 5 or 6 sailors, and 3 or 4 more killed and seriously injured during damage control. May they all rest in peace.

Not sure why report says no creww lost, as I definitely needed to visit the Barracks and do some serious recruiting when I got back to St.Naz !! Poor old U-69 was alo pretty beat-up and it took several months to bring here back to life from 26% hull integrity and replace 1 gun that was destroyed.

BUT, we dealt the 'Island Monkeys' in their little puddle-jumping airplanes a serious blow today that they won't forget in a hurry ! Hopefully, (thanks to Dowly's vertrieb) I hope that I have managed to post a few screenies below...

PS: I'm sure this won't be so easy in GWX, which I will graduate to in next couple of weeks.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9213/aircraftkiller2dw0.jpg

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2473/sheet3yl0.jpg

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/1916/sheet1ue3.jpg

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1854/sheet5hj5.jpg

Happy Hunting to all Kaleuns!


Mike C
Proud captain of U-69

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

U-64 (buyed a IXB) intel collecting boat. Oberleutenant zs. Alfred Wolf

its off to the next brit harbour... this time it is VERRY close to the channel.
i think next harbour is IN the channel :hmm:
(im going arroung england to scout all harbours. started from the north then east and now south)

anyway... off we go :up:

edit: 1 april 1940. Grid AN 76.
on my wat to Lowestoft (to see if its a harbour) i spotted a large convoy sailing SSW at 7 knots.
4 V&W DD's are escorting this convoy. biggining attack

edit2: after a long cat and mouse game with 4 V&W DD's i destroyed them. now im destroying the convoy with the dek gun

[KeptinCranky]

Lowestoft has no harbor, It does have the Walls icecream factory right on the coast (been there once) so you can get the crew some icecream :D

historically it had a destroyer flottilla and several squadrons of Torpedoboats, since it's the most easterly port in Britain

If you go near there, be aware lotsa interesting spiky balls that go boom in that area.

The next harbor would be southend :o

good hunting

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

harwich first :up:.

been at Lowestoft but no base spiky boom balls or a flottile of DD's and torpedo boats.

but im chased by 2 V&W's from a 2 cond convoy for 8 or 12 hours :x

they lost theyr DC drop thingy but they still are passing me to drop charges :doh:


EDIT: THANK GOD AND ALL OTHER SAINTS!!!!!! those 2 V&W's were crashing on my cunningtower... both did 3 or4 times and THEY ARE DESTROYED!!!!! now i can surface and speed up to Willemshaven

[KeptinCranky]

don't know when to give up, go home and have a cup of tea, you get that sometimes, it's annoying, you could go periscope depth and try to sink them, just don't get rammed

I'm off to a secluded bay in Crete to reload external fish, then it's back to CO64 to find something juicy to sink with them,

I've only found one convoy in the med so far, and they were Italians, 3 bloody passenger liners and I'm not allowed to sink them, that's just wrong :damn::damn:


updated intel on the med in april of 42 later tonight, they do have sunderlands now :eek:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

eheheh
no tea for my boys or me. we stay in our sub and leave harbour again :arrgh!:.

me: ON TO HARWICH
crew: JAWOL HERR KALEUN (and please get killed you idiot)

[Canovaro]

Dear fellow Kaleuns,

I need two or three volunteers to testvisit the new Contact map project website before it goes beta.

It's just a test walk-around if everything works 100%. If you have suggestions about how it works, that would be very welcome too.
Plus I need comments and suggestions on the text because my English is often a bit basic if not wrong.

If you're matching these requirements and are enthousiastic about helping improving the project, and are very often reading your PM's, please send me one!.

:arrgh!:


Allrighty, I got my test team!
Very encouraging to see those quick reactions :up:
A big thank you! You will get a new PM tomorrow, I have to get some sleep to catch up.

[ReM]

[quote=Canovaro]Plus I need comments and suggestions on the text because my English is often a bit basic if not wrong.
:arrgh!:

If I can help you with Dutch/English translations, just let me know...
I happen to live in the wet and windy Kingdom as well...and Dutch is my native language...

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

[quote=Canovaro]Plus I need comments and suggestions on the text because my English is often a bit basic if not wrong.
:arrgh!:

If I can help you with Dutch/English translations, just let me know...
I happen to live in the wet and windy Kingdom as well...and Dutch is my native language...

i can help to :yep:
i live in belgium and i speak verry good dutch/english

[ReM]

[quote=Canovaro]Plus I need comments and suggestions on the text because my English is often a bit basic if not wrong.
:arrgh!:

If I can help you with Dutch/English translations, just let me know...
I happen to live in the wet and windy Kingdom as well...and Dutch is my native language...

i can help to :yep:
i live in belgium and i speak verry good dutch/english

Still some KaLeuns left in the Low Countries after all these years! :up:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

[quote=Canovaro]Plus I need comments and suggestions on the text because my English is often a bit basic if not wrong.
:arrgh!:

If I can help you with Dutch/English translations, just let me know...
I happen to live in the wet and windy Kingdom as well...and Dutch is my native language...

i can help to :yep:
i live in belgium and i speak verry good dutch/english

Still some KaLeuns left in the Low Countries after all these years! :up:

sure there are :rotfl: but there are more in my fatherland :up:

[KeptinCranky]

Good Day/Guten Tag/Goedendag

I graduated on dutch/english translation :D I'll be glad to help out between playing and work :up:

now for the intel on the eastern mediterranean I've been gathering

The eastern med april of 1942

contacts in chronological order, where I have specific info because of actual intercepts it's noted in greater detail


4-4-42 3.01u Friendly taskforce grid CO2935 course E medium speed, leaving Suda bay, Crete

4-4-42 7.34u Enemy taskforce grid CO6635 course SE 11 kts heads to alexandria

5-4-42 4.17u Enemy warship grid CN3597 course WNW 14 kts

5-4-42 5.18u Enemy taskforce grid CN5247 course 278 14kts

Intercepted and acquired this one, it's a biggie allright, taskforce consists of

1 King George V BB
1 Rodney BB
1 Nelson BB
5 Dido CL
2 Hunt I DD
1 Tribal DD
2 V&W DD
2 Q&R DD

course and speed confirmed, they maintained course and speed for at least 100NM from first detection until I lost contact

6-4-42 16.41u Enemy taskforce grid CN3555 course E 16 kts
21.56u same taskforce grid CN3655 course 95 taskforce consists of 1 Fiji CL, 1 Dido CL, 2 hunt II DD, 1 Tribal DD
they change course to 120 in grid CO1585


9-4-42 Friendly warship grid CO1175 course NE 12 kts

12-4-42 Enemy Taskforce grid CO1686 course ESE 14 kts

12-4-42 8.48u Enemy warship grid CO5341 course W 16 kts

13-4-42 10.54u Friendly Convoy grid CN3911 course 285 slow

13-4-42 20.51u Enemy taskforce long 29 17' E lat 34 12' N course ESE 11 kts measure 371km from alexandria direction 348, right there

16-4-42 6.10u Ship grid CO5378 course E medium

17-4-42 Enemy taskforce grid CO5217 course ESE 14 kts untis: 2 Fiji CL 1 town DD 1 river DE 1 C&D DD

20-4-42 Ship grid CO6843 course 285 slow (actually one tramp steamer, a River DE and a Bathurst corvette) Aussies

23-4-42 12.07u Enemy warship CO4624 course W 12 kts



Those are the reported and confirmed contacts now follows a general(ish) map

http://home.wanadoo.nl/omf17235/images/med.jpg

and for the Harbor raiders, (meneer Mohr :D ) this one's a toughie:

http://home.wanadoo.nl/omf17235/images/maltalowdown.jpg

Next trip will be to Alexandria, I hope I have better weather then because most of this Data was gathered in fog and 15m/s wind, the only nice days were when leaving and returning to base :-?

patrol tonnage: 26k

2 tramp steamers
1 hunt II DD
2 Fiji Cruisers (ok that was pretty nice got me promoted anyway:|\\)

fired a fish each at those aussies too but they got lucky, 1 premature, 1 bad angle dud and one very lucky bathurst Corvette:

http://home.wanadoo.nl/omf17235/images/luckyaussie.jpg

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

7 juni 1940.
im almoast at southend.
was no harbour at harwich so i continued to southed.

edit: arrived at the harbour and got imediatly under fire from a armed trawler and a elco.
also spotted a black swan in the harbour

edit 2: in the harbour at the moment.

enemy units patroling the harbour:
1 elco torpedoboat
1 armed trawler
1 C&D DD (just arrived)

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7238/southendharboursq4.jpg
red is a subnet.
green are oceanliners.
pink are V&W and Black Swan.
white is a modern medium tanker.
orange is a small merchant.

there are more units in the harbour but i think the Luftwaffe (or bernard and dinsdale) took care of them

edit3: VERDAMTEN Göring !!!!!! ILL KILL HIM.
he ordered his luftwaffe to bomb my targets in the harbour :damn::damn::damn::damn::damn::damn:

[johan_d]

After two days of troubleshooting, then a fresh install of XP and SH3 finally back to the boat.. 1941, sailing on the north see, nothing seen, all quiete on the western front.:up:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

U-64 goes on another harbour spying mission.
this time its Dover
then folkstone,brighton,portsmouth,southampton,portland ,exmouth and plymouth

after spying in those harbours i go to the west side and spy there :up:

edit: at dover harbour. NOW IM GETTING REALY PISSED AT GÖRING!!!
HE DOES IT AGAIN THE BASTERD!!!

i hope he leaves some for me :damn::damn::damn::damn::damn::damn:

[mr chris]

Happy hunting grounds???
Well if it has not been said before from 39 till 41 look no further than AM52:yep::up::arrgh!:

[Canovaro]

Happy hunting grounds???
Well if it has not been said before from 39 till 41 look no further than AM52:yep::up::arrgh!:

That's where my patrol grid is.
Hmm only warships patrolling, have a hard time to keep out of their sights.
:shifty:

[melnibonian]

That's where my patrol grid is.
Hmm only warships patrolling, have a hard time to keep out of their sights.
:shifty:
There are a lot of DDs over there it's true. If you stay and look around you will find LOADS of single merchants and convoys. It's a U-Boat Dream Patrol Grid :yep:

[mr chris]

Happy hunting grounds???
Well if it has not been said before from 39 till 41 look no further than AM52:yep::up::arrgh!:
That's where my patrol grid is.
Hmm only warships patrolling, have a hard time to keep out of their sights.
:shifty:

Keeping out of there sights???:doh::doh:

You should be sinking them:yep::yep: This war you know you should be sinking the enemy where ever you find them:arrgh!::arrgh!:

[Canovaro]

Happy hunting grounds???
Well if it has not been said before from 39 till 41 look no further than AM52:yep::up::arrgh!:
That's where my patrol grid is.
Hmm only warships patrolling, have a hard time to keep out of their sights.
:shifty:

Keeping out of there sights???:doh::doh:

You should be sinking them:yep::yep: This war you know you should be sinking the enemy where ever you find them:arrgh!::arrgh!:

I got one, but only because its speed was 6.5 knots, so I could observe, flank, ambush and sink it like if it was a merchant. Usually they have speeds above 20 kts.

First warship I sank this way.

[mr chris]

Well with any luck that will be the first of many.
Good hunting:up::arrgh!:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

gonna do this patrol over again... the luftwaffe bombed everything except the warships in the area.
cant surface or im dead. 3 crew members already did

[Brag]

To: KL Canovaro
Chief KM Intelligence
From: U-123
01 Oct 1940 (GWX 1.03)
Sunk Medium tanker @ BE3933 heading 060 (Tanker Alley)

[mookiemookie]

If you feel lucky, the Bristol Channel is chock full of shipping...just don't go too far in. You do have to deal with the PT boats and air coverage, but if you play conservatively and carefully, the tonnage is worth it..

[Brag]

To: KL Canovaro
Chief KM Intelligence
01 October 1940 (GWX)
From: U-123
Sunk 24K liner @ BE3936, heading 060

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

U-64 : just going to Falkstone (and if there is no harbour il continu to Brighton)

[Brag]

To KL Carnovaro
Chief KM Intelligence
From U-123 report #3
03 October 1940
Sunk Medium Freighter @ BE3964, heading 250

[Brag]

To KL Carnavaro
CKMI
From: U-123
O4 October
Troop transport 17 kts heading 060 @ BE3962.
Received hull damage from said ship's guns. No casualties, returning to base.
52,000 tons.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

U-64. 2 August 1940.
18:33

passing dover. no planes sighted for now. no ships sank by Göring.
biggining spying and attack run.

edit: DAMNIT!!! by entering the harbour the Ju88's show up...
i guess il pay Göring a visit when im home

edit2: no ships dammaged by the Ju88's. destroyed a J&K DD that was stational in the harbour. a torpedo boat smashed itselve into a wall and sank.

in the harbour are :

3x light tankers
3x tramp steamer (trampdampfer)
2x small merchants
1x large merchant
1x ocean liner
1x Fiji BB
1x J&K DD (destroyed this one)
1x unknown type of torpedo boat (crashed into a wall)
and 1x RAF high speed boat

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

this time im on my way to Portsmouth... verry close but hard to get there.... lots of DD's

edit: im in the base. had to maneuver manualy to get inside.

there are 2 DD's there one on patrol and one stationary.
when i arrived it was bad weather and the patroling DD got stuck in a pier.

anyway... in the harbour is LOTS of tonnage. spotted 2 medium and 3 small tankers.
there are more ships but cant see what kind.

updates soon

edit2: i waited for good weather and then i spotted another medium cargo.
of all the ships there is 1 neutral cargo ship.

[Sneaky_Pete]

Found the HMS Hood docked in Plymouth. 5 eels later and well you know the story. :up: October 26, 1939 was the date. Made it out alive too! Just be prepared to be patient. Ran into an incoming Task Force also on my way out heading south. :rock: Just freighters, pass/cargos and the Hood were in Plymouth Harbour btw. Tons of DD's and Armed Trawlers patrolling the entrance as well as the bay. Sorry, but I have no screenshots for reference.

[Canovaro]

Von: Canovaro.BDO.KM
Zu: U-123 Kptlt Brag BE sector
5 oktober 1940

contact reports received intelligence will be updated soon stay in area convoy expected
machen sie weiter so

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

Found the HMS Hood docked in Plymouth. 5 eels later and well you know the story. :up: October 26, 1939 was the date. Made it out alive too! Just be prepared to be patient. Ran into an incoming Task Force also on my way out heading south. :rock: Just freighters, pass/cargos and the Hood were in Plymouth Harbour btw. Tons of DD's and Armed Trawlers patrolling the entrance as well as the bay. Sorry, but I have no screenshots for reference.

you sure it was Portsmouth ? there is also a Portland

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

today im of to portland.

on my way i got attacked by a elco. returned fire with deck gun and destroyed the little basterd.

the next day i spotted a V&W DD and crash dived. he was firing so i was pannicing until i spotted he wasnt firing at me.

this time i could kiss Göring :yep: 8 stuka's were attacking the DD.

edit: reached Portland harbour. 2 armed trawlers and 1 DD are patroling the area.
spotted a V&W DD at the harbour enterance. subnet at the south enterance
updates soon

edit2: there is aTown type DD at the north harbour enterance and the luftwaffe is here again.
no subnet at the north enterance. V&W DD and 1 armed trawler inside the harbour.

merchants in the harbour:
1 schlepper (dont know the english name)
1 large merchant
1 medium merchant
2 small merchants
2 tramp steamers
and a torpedo unwothy fishing boat

edit3: destroyed :

whitout help of the luftwaffe :

1 V&W DD 1188 brt
1 Town DD 1190 brt
1 Modern Medium Tanker 8000 brt
1 small merchant 4946 brt
2 trampsteamers 3989 brt
1 armed trawler 540 brt

together with the luftwaffe :

1 small merchant (luftwaffe took the credit)
1 schlepper (luftwaffe took the credit to)

edit:4 after destroying realy everything in the harbour i set sail to my home base. wasnt far out the harbour and struck another subnet in front of the base.

cant post a screenshot becouse it "to large" for those links at imageshack

you have to go to the south enterance and when in front of it you have to turn to the north enterance. that way you will evade the subnets

[Brag]

U-123
November 1940
Re-confirming Tanker Alley . es, it is there, but occasionally there will be several days without ships. Large, medium, small. Also large and medium freighters. Great place to get huge tonnage. Ocasional destroyers and a few neutral tankers.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

U-64 harbour spyraidboat.

on my way to bristol. right now im in the bristolkanal. sank a passangership/merchant a tramp steamer and armed trawler on my way.
(they litteraly got in my way :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: )

got attacked by sea hurricane's and was forced to dive.

il update when im dead or in the harbour

edit: destroyed 5 more ships 4 of them at the harbour. right now im reloading my torpedo's inside the harbour in the middle of all merchants.

the destroyed units:
1 merchant on the way
1 Town DD
1 V&W DD
1 Troop Transport
1 Hilfskreuzer

further in the harbour:
1 elco patroling the area
3 medium merchants
2 small merchants
1 trawler
1 fishingboat
1 large tanker
2 neutral large merchants
1 neutral tramp steamer


edit2: sad new fellow kaleuns. crew attacked a neutral merchant with guns... other neutrals joined the fight...

now KapitänLeutenant Alfred Wolf lies in Bristol and sank with his boat. 3/4 of the crew survived but got arrested

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

U-51. 2cond spyraidboat.

3 september 1939.
09:18 near scapa flow. bad weather
we survived every dinner but my crew is suffering from it.
momentaly we havnt spot a ship since we left willemshaven.

6 september 1939 14:20. to good weather.
sailed around brittania to reach grid AM19.
sank 3 ships on my way.

12 september 1939.
Grid AM64 00:09.
sank 5 more ships. 2 DD's,2 coastal tankers and 1 small merchant.
5 eels left. still continuing to Liverpool.

15 september 1939. 06:29.
entering the small river to Liverpool.
sank 2 more DD's and a armed trawler

19:33.
so far so good. destroyed another armed trawler that was patrolling the river.
1 eel left and 500 or 700 meters away from the harbour.

16 september 1939.
Liverpool Harbour 02:47.

finaly arrived and spotted:
1 armed trawler
1 small merchant
1 medium merchant
1 large merchant
1 fishingboat
2 tramp steamers

Neutrals:
2 modern medium tankers

and coastal arty

12:22.
spotted 2 small fishing boats.
the rest in the harbour is destroyed (except the neutrals)

[johan_d]

Sorry meine herrn, I was thinking, since a lot of them appear randomly, RND layer, it is impossible to pinpoint them on either an exact location, nor a specific time.

Even SH3Gen says something of this, because of the rnd layer it isnt possible to have all the ships, some spawn.

[AAA]

YOEWX TXIPA BEGQO IHZJB CPQSO VDOXR QYEX

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

Sorry meine herrn, I was thinking, since a lot of them appear randomly, RND layer, it is impossible to pinpoint them on either an exact location, nor a specific time.

Even SH3Gen says something of this, because of the rnd layer it isnt possible to have all the ships, some spawn.

[AAA]

YOEWX TXIPA BEGQO IHZJB CPQSO VDOXR QYEX

r you saying im doing harbour spying for nothing on GWX ???

[johan_d]

I'm afraid it is, only the scripted ships (SCR) layer will be there on a given datum, but the RND's could possible be somewhere else, and or not even in your specific mission at all, at that datum, if that is when I am right on this.

Just load the SH3 editor and the campaign and see for your self.

Johan

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

I'm afraid it is, only the scripted ships (SCR) layer will be there on a given datum, but the RND's could possible be somewhere else, and or not even in your specific mission at all, at that datum, if that is when I am right on this.

Just load the SH3 editor and the campaign and see for your self.

Johan

the scapa flow info is as correct as it can be..... been there hundred times.

and i also mentioned IF YOUR LUCKY YOU WILL SPOT A REVENGE BATTLESHIP

[Telgriff]

I'm afraid it is, only the scripted ships (SCR) layer will be there on a given datum, but the RND's could possible be somewhere else, and or not even in your specific mission at all, at that datum, if that is when I am right on this.

Just load the SH3 editor and the campaign and see for your self.

Johan
the scapa flow info is as correct as it can be..... been there hundred times.

and i also mentioned IF YOUR LUCKY YOU WILL SPOT A REVENGE BATTLESHIP
You're intel is still highly useful, you pave the way in finding safe passages into areas and harbours that are rich with targets but nigh on impossible to infiltrate blind...and you do it you nutter :up:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

I'm afraid it is, only the scripted ships (SCR) layer will be there on a given datum, but the RND's could possible be somewhere else, and or not even in your specific mission at all, at that datum, if that is when I am right on this.

Just load the SH3 editor and the campaign and see for your self.

Johan
the scapa flow info is as correct as it can be..... been there hundred times.

and i also mentioned IF YOUR LUCKY YOU WILL SPOT A REVENGE BATTLESHIP
You're intel is still highly useful, you pave the way in finding safe passages into areas and harbours that are rich with targets but nigh on impossible to infiltrate blind...and you do it you nutter :up:

damn right im nutz :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

but you have to admit it helps others not to die (i hope)

[Brag]

I'm afraid it is, only the scripted ships (SCR) layer will be there on a given datum, but the RND's could possible be somewhere else, and or not even in your specific mission at all, at that datum, if that is when I am right on this.

Just load the SH3 editor and the campaign and see for your self.

Johan
the scapa flow info is as correct as it can be..... been there hundred times.

and i also mentioned IF YOUR LUCKY YOU WILL SPOT A REVENGE BATTLESHIP
You're intel is still highly useful, you pave the way in finding safe passages into areas and harbours that are rich with targets but nigh on impossible to infiltrate blind...and you do it you nutter :up:

damn right im nutz :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

but you have to admit it helps others not to die (i hope)

At leads them into death traps, you nutter :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

I'm afraid it is, only the scripted ships (SCR) layer will be there on a given datum, but the RND's could possible be somewhere else, and or not even in your specific mission at all, at that datum, if that is when I am right on this.

Just load the SH3 editor and the campaign and see for your self.

Johan
the scapa flow info is as correct as it can be..... been there hundred times.

and i also mentioned IF YOUR LUCKY YOU WILL SPOT A REVENGE BATTLESHIP
You're intel is still highly useful, you pave the way in finding safe passages into areas and harbours that are rich with targets but nigh on impossible to infiltrate blind...and you do it you nutter :up:

damn right im nutz :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

but you have to admit it helps others not to die (i hope)

At leads them into death traps, you nutter :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

:o :o :o seriously ?

[Telgriff]

I'm afraid it is, only the scripted ships (SCR) layer will be there on a given datum, but the RND's could possible be somewhere else, and or not even in your specific mission at all, at that datum, if that is when I am right on this.

Just load the SH3 editor and the campaign and see for your self.

Johan
the scapa flow info is as correct as it can be..... been there hundred times.

and i also mentioned IF YOUR LUCKY YOU WILL SPOT A REVENGE BATTLESHIP You're intel is still highly useful, you pave the way in finding safe passages into areas and harbours that are rich with targets but nigh on impossible to infiltrate blind...and you do it you nutter :up:
damn right im nutz :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

but you have to admit it helps others not to die (i hope)
At leads them into death traps, you nutter :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
:o :o :o seriously ?

It does not! I am almost into the med via Gibraltar straight because of instruction form the nutter!

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

I'm afraid it is, only the scripted ships (SCR) layer will be there on a given datum, but the RND's could possible be somewhere else, and or not even in your specific mission at all, at that datum, if that is when I am right on this.

Just load the SH3 editor and the campaign and see for your self.

Johan
the scapa flow info is as correct as it can be..... been there hundred times.

and i also mentioned IF YOUR LUCKY YOU WILL SPOT A REVENGE BATTLESHIP You're intel is still highly useful, you pave the way in finding safe passages into areas and harbours that are rich with targets but nigh on impossible to infiltrate blind...and you do it you nutter :up:
damn right im nutz :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

but you have to admit it helps others not to die (i hope)
At leads them into death traps, you nutter :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
:o :o :o seriously ?

It does not! I am almost into the med via Gibraltar straight because of instruction form the nutter!

thanks mate. its a big relief. only hope you will survive it :up:
report when your throug

[Brag]

Mohr, our top harbour raider and pathfinder leads the way! :up:

But I am a deep water sailor :rock:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

Mohr, our top harbour raider and pathfinder leads the way! :up:

But I am a deep water sailor :rock:

like the 1000+m at gibraltar ?

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

k this time Firth Of Clyde stands on the menu.

hard time to get there. 2 subnets so (first head north west. then south west).

1 armed trawler patroling before the subnets and lots of coastal arty near the nets.

in the harbour are:
1 armed trawler
1 DD
1 small tanker
1 medium merchant
1 small merchant
1 tramp steamer
1 small fishing boat

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

21 march 1940. menu of the hour : Loch Ewe the last base to scoutraid !!!!
then moving to the med.

U-51 has sailed around brittania and reached Loch Ewe Harbour with a bit of trouble.
a elco and some dangerous type of fly's started to attack me. dived to PD and set speed to 1 knot.
destroyed a armed trawler guarding the enterance (always handy if you need to escape fast)
destroyed in total 1 fly (swordfish), 1 large merchant (at scapa) and 2 armed trawlers (at loch ewe)

edit: GODDAMNIT!!! the harbour is full of neutrals and hospital ships.... no Fiji this time either...

starting attack on the only few brits there and then get the hell out of there before the coastal arty spots me

edit2: enemy ships in the harbour:
1 armed trawler
1 small merchant
1 medium merchant
2 fishing boats

Neurtals in the harbour:
1 hospitalship
1 passanger liner
1 large merchant
1 N type DD

coastal units:
2 flaks
around 8 arty bunkers

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

k after raiding Loch Ewe i spotted another base... Lerwick Sub Base.

now hear this... i know i was nutz and a compleet lunatic... but now it a bit to much for me to...

destroyed a DD with my deck gun whitout getting hit :o :o :o

edit: sank another DD with the deck gun near the sub base and got hit only 1 time

edit2: reached the sub base.
in the base are:
3 small fishingboats
1 DD
1 small marineverzorger
1 armed trawler
1 coastal tanker
1 S type sub

also 3 arty bunkers
and 2 subnets (on both sides of the shore there is a subnet... to pass stay in the middle)

edit3: for the first time ever im glad the subnets are here... they stopped a DD from chasing and DCing me
still took havy DC damage and hull down to 20% (from both harbours)

[Jimbuna]

Have you not considered using SH3 Gen and/or SH3 Spysat ? :hmm:

It would save you posting all day and allow you more playing time :up:

Just a suggestion. Some of the vessels you'll come across are based on random values and you info may not be valid for the next kaleun that comes along :hmm:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

Have you not considered using SH3 Gen and/or SH3 Spysat ? :hmm:

It would save you posting all day and allow you more playing time :up:

Just a suggestion. Some of the vessels you'll come across are based on random values and you info may not be valid for the next kaleun that comes along :hmm:

i like to harbour spyraid.... its a wacko job and perfect for me.... it helps others to...
like my instructions for gibraltar.

[Jimbuna]

How long before you get to Sydney ? :lol: :up:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

How long before you get to Sydney ? :lol: :up:

made a deal with someone... my terretory is from brittania to the med and the westcoast of africa :up:

the other one has to report sightings from the american side

[ReM]

BE 39, called Tanker alley by Mohr....

I did find traffic there, but no tankers. Shipping moves in pairs and generally without escorts...

http://members.home.nl/rem/BE39.jpg

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

BE 39, called Tanker alley by Mohr....

I did find traffic there, but no tankers. Shipping moves in pairs and generally without escorts...

http://members.home.nl/rem/BE39.jpg

BF13.... and its found by brag

[ReM]

This looks nice for a daring harbor raid: some nice tonnage

Dunkirk: operation Dynamo. (end of May, start June '40)

http://members.home.nl/rem/Dunkirk%20harbor%201.jpg

http://members.home.nl/rem/Dunkirk%20harbor%202.jpg
But: it is pretty busy!
http://members.home.nl/rem/Dunkirk%20contacts.jpg

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

This looks nice for a daring harbor raid: some nice tonnage

Dunkirk: operation Dynamo. (end of May, start June '40)

http://members.home.nl/rem/Dunkirk%20harbor%201.jpg

http://members.home.nl/rem/Dunkirk%20harbor%202.jpg
But: it is pretty busy!
http://members.home.nl/rem/Dunkirk%20contacts.jpg

:o :o just missed it

[johan_d]

Just a suggestion. Some of the vessels you'll come across are based on random values and you info may not be valid for the next kaleun that comes along :hmm:

That is what I said !

[aaa] AVHFM NXPMI OUTAV KUIOZ UDBZ

[Telgriff]

thanks mate. its a big relief. only hope you will survive it :up:
report when your throug

Through the Gibraltar straight and into the med. Sunk a few ships and wondering if I arrived here too early. Jan 1940 and the place is VERY quiet.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

thanks mate. its a big relief. only hope you will survive it :up:
report when your throug

Through the Gibraltar straight and into the med. Sunk a few ships and wondering if I arrived here too early. Jan 1940 and the place is VERY quiet.

then start a test career in 1944 at an italian base and try to pass gibraltar :up:
see if there is more movement or the same in 1940

[KeptinCranky]

that's just wrong....:D

I haven't had time to visit alexandria this weekend, had a new book to finish first, will have some info on the easternmost med later...

anyone scouting the regular north atlantic lanes?
please keep us posted

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

on my way to the tanker aley i sank a large merchant... 2 seconds after it sank 3 Ju-88's show up :huh:
i guess they wanted to steal my kill....

[VipertheSniper]

Anyone here on a Monsun boat?

Because I don't know which place to go... apart from that spot about 300-500 km's southeast of the Cape, where a taskforce shows up on a northwestern course, which is actually a heavily guarded convoy with a Bogue...

Is there anything to hunt for between Madagaskar and the African continent? How about the Street of hormuz?

[KeptinCranky]

some more eastern med, got transfered to la Spezia just when I was outside Alexandria :-?
it was a very frustrating patrol, could easily have been 100k but no-o of course some big ones wouldn't sink
slammed 3 fish into the HMS King Georg V, she slowed down, heavy listing, missed a screw and half her boilers out of action, still sails off, :damn::damn:
Hit the HMS Nelson as well, 1 mag fish right underneath the tower, but no bada-boom, just slows down, shrugs it off and sails on, that's 60k tonnes not mine :damn::damn:

I did get a cunard liner, another 45k tonnes, and shot down a sunderland that was harassing me while making an approach on said Liner:rock:

right, on to the info

29-4-42 0042u enemy warship grid CO1932 SSW 16kts
1018u friendly warship CO1175 ENE 12 kts

30-4-42 1.20u 50km east of CO9355 ship ESE Medium (this was the cunard liner plus a black swan

1100u 90km West by 10km North of Alexandria, Destroyer TF heading E fast

1-5-42 00.00u 2 CLs leaving Alexandria course N 14 kts
1610u CO6985 TF course 110 20 kts contains Nelson Rodney King george V 5 didos and assorted DDs

2-5-42 CO6811 ship W slow

5-5-42 1800u CO5599 small convoy Course E slow

6-5-42 2310u CO4522 ship WNW Slow
7-5-42 1120u CO4183 ship WNW slow
2300u Task force grid CO4642 E Fast

and especially for Herr Mohr, Alexandria is heavily guarded, a least 5 DDs patrolling 3 active elcos :cry: didn't get a chance to even see any ships in the port

from now on I'll be sailing from la spezia, which is a lot less convenient than Salamis, oh well, I'll be gathering info on the area around Sicily I guess

[Brag]

03 Dezember 1940
U-123

Returning from Tanker Allee, 9 tankers in three weeks. Details once I dock in Lorient.

You gotta buy me some drinks, hehe. :D

[Canovaro]

Coming back from DR23 I got reports of a convvoy. Changed course 3 times befor I was able to get in! Sank 11000 tons of shipping and got out the quiet way.
Got pinged once but there came no depth charges.

The crew needed that succes.

[KPII]

5. Marts 1942

Just transferred from Bergen to warmer climates with 23. Flotille and took command of a new Type VIIB (U-83). At the habour masters request we spent the day surveying the habour approaches and can indeed confirm that the depth colours on SHIII maps are A LOT darker than the SHIV maps. As a consequence of our successful mission we will now spend another two weeks in Salamis while the dive planes, forward tubes and propeller shafts gets repaired.

After the refit we are heading towards Tobruk (Grid CO56) thanks to the good advice on this thread.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

and especially for Herr Mohr, Alexandria is heavily guarded, a least 5 DDs patrolling 3 active elcos :cry: didn't get a chance to even see any ships in the port


il take a look for you maty :up: (still in kiel on 1940 but il go)

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

successfully got into alexandria.

destroyed all DD's and the elco's smashed themselves to smitherenes against the pier.

began destruction with the deck gun.

in the harbour:

3 patrolling DD's 1 stationary
2 small merchants
1 large merchant
1 modern medium tanker
1 schlepper
1 small marine versorgunsschiff
1 DD
1 RAF high speed boat

neutrals:
1 small tanker
1 hospital ship
1 small merchant

2 fishes left.

sank except the neutrals,the DD, the high speed boat and the marine versorgungsshiff
everything...
trying to sink the versorgungsschiff

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

today im of to portland.

on my way i got attacked by a elco. returned fire with deck gun and destroyed the little basterd.

the next day i spotted a V&W DD and crash dived. he was firing so i was pannicing until i spotted he wasnt firing at me.

this time i could kiss Göring :yep: 8 stuka's were attacking the DD.

edit: reached Portland harbour. 2 armed trawlers and 1 DD are patroling the area.
spotted a V&W DD at the harbour enterance. subnet at the south enterance
updates soon

edit2: there is aTown type DD at the north harbour enterance and the luftwaffe is here again.
no subnet at the north enterance. V&W DD and 1 armed trawler inside the harbour.

merchants in the harbour:
1 schlepper (dont know the english name)
1 large merchant
1 medium merchant
2 small merchants
2 tramp steamers
and a torpedo unwothy fishing boat

edit3: destroyed :

whitout help of the luftwaffe :

1 V&W DD 1188 brt
1 Town DD 1190 brt
1 Modern Medium Tanker 8000 brt
1 small merchant 4946 brt
2 trampsteamers 3989 brt
1 armed trawler 540 brt

together with the luftwaffe :

1 small merchant (luftwaffe took the credit)
1 schlepper (luftwaffe took the credit to)

edit:4 after destroying realy everything in the harbour i set sail to my home base. wasnt far out the harbour and struck another subnet in front of the base.

cant post a screenshot becouse it "to large" for those links at imageshack

you have to go to the south enterance and when in front of it you have to turn to the north enterance. that way you will evade the subnets

finaly found a way to upload the pict
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb231/evangelionunit03/SH3Img20-5-2007_18.jpg

[Brag]

Mohr!
It looks like you did some serious cleaning up on that harbour! :D

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

was pretty easy to :up:

the lines are the subnets i was talking about

[Lagger123987]

was pretty easy to :up:

the lines are the subnets i was talking about

Go harbor raid each english channel ports and wait for 6/6/44!

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

was pretty easy to :up:

the lines are the subnets i was talking about

Go harbor raid each english channel ports and wait for 6/6/44!

srry i already raided each port around brittania (even the sub base).


im buzy with the med now

[Lagger123987]

was pretty easy to :up:

the lines are the subnets i was talking about

Go harbor raid each english channel ports and wait for 6/6/44!

srry i already raided each port around brittania (even the sub base).


im buzy with the med now

Aww man! I'll battle you on harbor raiding each harbor in the Med then.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

was pretty easy to :up:

the lines are the subnets i was talking about

Go harbor raid each english channel ports and wait for 6/6/44!

srry i already raided each port around brittania (even the sub base).


im buzy with the med now

Aww man! I'll battle you on harbor raiding each harbor in the Med then.

and how do you gonna battle me ?

[Lagger123987]

was pretty easy to :up:

the lines are the subnets i was talking about

Go harbor raid each english channel ports and wait for 6/6/44!

srry i already raided each port around brittania (even the sub base).


im buzy with the med now

Aww man! I'll battle you on harbor raiding each harbor in the Med then.

and how do you gonna battle me ?

Online play.

[Lagger123987]

was pretty easy to :up:

the lines are the subnets i was talking about

Go harbor raid each english channel ports and wait for 6/6/44!

srry i already raided each port around brittania (even the sub base).


im buzy with the med now

Aww man! I'll battle you on harbor raiding each harbor in the Med then.

and how do you gonna battle me ?

Online play.

no time...

I'll beat you in Online play just watch, just watch.

[azn_132]

was pretty easy to :up:

the lines are the subnets i was talking about

Go harbor raid each english channel ports and wait for 6/6/44!

srry i already raided each port around brittania (even the sub base).


im buzy with the med now

Aww man! I'll battle you on harbor raiding each harbor in the Med then.

and how do you gonna battle me ?

Online play.

no time...

I'll beat you in Online play just watch, just watch.

Lagger, I suggest u chill still, or u might get a brig ticket.

[Lagger123987]

was pretty easy to :up:

the lines are the subnets i was talking about

Go harbor raid each english channel ports and wait for 6/6/44!

srry i already raided each port around brittania (even the sub base).


im buzy with the med now

Aww man! I'll battle you on harbor raiding each harbor in the Med then.

and how do you gonna battle me ?

Online play.

no time...

I'll beat you in Online play just watch, just watch.

Lagger, I suggest u chill still, or u might get a brig ticket.

Chill? Look man, you took my mod from me, you should go to the brig!

[_Seth_]

Easy now, guys.

[azn_132]

was pretty easy to :up:

the lines are the subnets i was talking about

Go harbor raid each english channel ports and wait for 6/6/44!

srry i already raided each port around brittania (even the sub base).


im buzy with the med now

Aww man! I'll battle you on harbor raiding each harbor in the Med then.

and how do you gonna battle me ?

Online play.

no time...

I'll beat you in Online play just watch, just watch.

Lagger, I suggest u chill still, or u might get a brig ticket.

Chill? Look man, you took my mod from me, you should go to the brig!

Ok, jsut chill for a bit we are goin to talk about this by PM k?

[_Seth_]

Stick to topic, and DONT derail the thread again with childish remarks!

[Brag]

Thank you, Seth!

I would like to remind Kaleuns that this is an area for officers and gentlemen. We certainly don't need immature squabbles. Provocations are best dealt with by ignoring them.

Good hunting! :up:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

sry for the bad languidge posts a while age... but he was pissing me off.

anyway im back into the harbour raiding

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

26 may 1941 08:39 BE38

in position to intercept the TF that will destroy the Bismarck.

23:21 minutes to go

edit: i dont understand it.... i was in the right place but the bismarck got destroyed... folowed the TF and destroyed th 2 DD's. then suddenly the TF disapears into nothing

gonna take revenge at gibraltar

[KeptinCranky]

No need Mohr, I just took care of that, pre-emptively I might add :arrgh!:

http://home.wanadoo.nl/omf17235/images/republicanism.jpg

In my trusty type VIIc

can I join the 100k club now? :D

apart from that little exploit here's some info I gathered while on patrol to AM71 in april 1941:

U-77 reports:

24-4-41 5.52u Grid AM3491 Enemy warship WNW 23kts
1450u same warship grid AM3341 SSW Fast
26-4-41 0020u same ship again Grid BE3645 S fast

25-4-41 0104u Large Convoy BF1541 wsw 8kts (convoy a)
0104u Large Convoy BF1733 E 7kts (convoy b)
0630u Convoy B BF1824 ENE 7kts
1719u Convoy A BE3698 WSW 8kts

1840u BF1592 Whaling Factory Ship ENE slow
2316u BE3955 Modern medium tanker 7kts course 70

26-4-41 0120u BE3975 Ship wsw slow

0523u task force (minus BBs) BE3979 S 18kts, 3 Didos, 1 Southhampton 3 DDs
0926u BE3829 Large Convoy WSW 8kts
1420u BE6985 Task force S fast (still the same one)
2229u AM7857 Tribal DD SSE 21kts

27-4-41 0136u BE3244 Convoy NW 4kts
1747u AM7855 convoy NE 7kts
1853u AM7716 Tribal DD N 25kts

28-4-41 0330u AM7644 Convoy NE 7kts
1501u AM7342 large convoy N 6kts

29-4-41 AM4823 large convoy NW 6kts

1-5-41 0030u BE6372 large convoy W slow (wolfpacked)
0240u BE3838 large convoy NE 7kts

2-5-41 1204u BE3999 ship ENE medium

4-5-41 0600u AM6811 Enemy Warship NNW 7kts

U-77 out

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

i still gonna take revenge... didnt succeed the 2cnd time either

[Brag]

Hey Crancky,
Congratz! Getting 100K with a VII is no mean accomplishment! Welcome to the VII/100K Club.:up:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

here are the 2 ports i raided.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb231/evangelionunit03/SH3Img26-5-2007_12.jpg
mark 1 is a medium cargo.
mark 2 is a trooptransport.
both wernt put on the map when they sank.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb231/evangelionunit03/SH3Img26-5-2007_14.jpg
forgot to put a mark on this one.
at the left (near the other 2) i had to put a mark for a destroyed fishing boat

[azn_132]

Here's two harbors I raided, well, not really I came to the US East coast a bit too early, can only sink Brit merchies in NYC and Newport.

Newport
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m172/PS_gamelover/Intel/SH3Img26-5-2007_13.jpg

What I sunk in NYC low huh?
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m172/PS_gamelover/Intel/SH3Img26-5-2007_12.jpg

Intel of NYC

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m172/PS_gamelover/Intel/SH3Img26-5-2007_11-10.jpg

two of my kills

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m172/PS_gamelover/Intel/SH3Img26-5-2007_11-2.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m172/PS_gamelover/Intel/SH3Img26-5-2007_11-7.jpg

Scope view

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m172/PS_gamelover/Intel/SH3Img26-5-2007_11-4.jpg

Me leavin NYC for Newport

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m172/PS_gamelover/Intel/SH3Img26-5-2007_11-9.jpg

Should have come a bit lata but I was flankin too much.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

anyone want a swept clean harbour near Tobruk ? :arrgh!: :arrgh!: :arrgh!:

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb231/evangelionunit03/SH3Img27-5-2007_2.jpg

[Brag]

Hey, Mohr,
Last we heard from you , you were pre-monsooning off Malasia. Was gibsts es mit das Mitelmeer?

You will dive Doenitz crazy. :D

[Lagger123987]

anyone want a swept clean harbour near Tobruk ? :arrgh!: :arrgh!: :arrgh!:

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb231/evangelionunit03/SH3Img27-5-2007_2.jpg

Where's Tobuck Lohr?

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

anyone want a swept clean harbour near Tobruk ? :arrgh!: :arrgh!: :arrgh!:


Where's Tobuck Lohr?
Edit:......Watch the language..............

[azn_132]

anyone want a swept clean harbour near Tobruk ? :arrgh!: :arrgh!: :arrgh!:


Where's Tobuck Lohr?
........
OT, stop name callin!
On topic, in the Med.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

... Was gibsts es mit das Mitelmeer?...


not verry much...

raided Tobruk (when in enemy hands) ,bibraltar,salamis (this one is pretty easy as it is only guarded by a armed trawler) ,alexandria,Port Said and Valletta....

Gibraltar has a Dido and a other (same looking) class.Port Said has also a Dido...
both have also a pretty high tonnage on merchants

the others have only LOTS of tonnage...
and when out of torpedo's... go to salamis :arrgh!:

[KeptinCranky]

I made a recon of Valetta but couldn't get close, weather was too bad and I kept constantly getting forced under by assorted taskforces, one only DDs the other 2 cruisers and DDs and my old friends the King George V and the Rodney came barelling along as well....only they all have radar now so no getting good position:-?

I did sink a total of 5 passenger liners in the med, will compile my contact data tomorrow or this weekend anyway

[azn_132]

This is one big convoy! Found this in the Med forgot the yr and grid tho.
Front of the convoy
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m172/PS_gamelover/SH3Img2-6-2007_3.jpg

The middle
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m172/PS_gamelover/SH3Img2-6-2007_3-1.jpg

The Back of teh convoy
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m172/PS_gamelover/SH3Img2-6-2007_3-2.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m172/PS_gamelover/SH3Img2-6-2007_3-4.jpg

[KeptinCranky]

:o That's not a convoy that's the entire merchant marine for the med as well as a sizeable chunck of the royal navy:o

I count:
2 Revenge battleships
1 CL
far too many DDs
at least 5 big tankers

No wait, they're all tankers???

Are you sure you didn't put this together in the mission editor?

I hope you radioed this in and someone sent out every air and fleet asset available in Italy to sink this thing because.....damn

The only large-ish convoys I've seen in the med are friendly :-?

[azn_132]

:o That's not a convoy that's the entire merchant marine for the med as well as a sizeable chunck of the royal navy:o

I count:
2 Revenge battleships
1 CL
far too many DDs
at least 5 big tankers

No wait, they're all tankers???

Are you sure you didn't put this together in the mission editor?

I hope you radioed this in and someone sent out every air and fleet asset available in Italy to sink this thing because.....damn

The only large-ish convoys I've seen in the med are friendly :-?

Dont blame me, Mohr wanted that convoy.

[Canovaro]

This looks a little weird.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

[Dont blame me, Mohr wanted that convoy.


:o .......... who doesnt...
large convoy with large tankers... this could be a 200k or 300k convoy

[azn_132]

[Dont blame me, Mohr wanted that convoy.


:o .......... who doesnt...
large convoy with large tankers... this could be a 200k or 300k convoy

And u think u can sink them all.

[KeptinCranky]

Him and what arsenal of torpedoes? :D

or do you mean to imply he's going to cheat ? :oops:

:rotfl:

just got back from the atlantic, did a little tour around England, first through der Kanal and then up around Scotland, ran out of eels just south of Ireland, so went deckgunning along the rest of the way:D

Ran out of ammo while shelling a Large Merchant in AN43, it did stop but wasn't sinking so I plowed my boat right into it at 17knts,....twice

That took it down, now I'm going to have some dinner then will make a comprehensive contact report

[Lagger123987]

:o That's not a convoy that's the entire merchant marine for the med as well as a sizeable chunck of the royal navy:o

I count:
2 Revenge battleships
1 CL
far too many DDs
at least 5 big tankers

No wait, they're all tankers???

Are you sure you didn't put this together in the mission editor?

I hope you radioed this in and someone sent out every air and fleet asset available in Italy to sink this thing because.....damn

The only large-ish convoys I've seen in the med are friendly :-?

Where can I find this convoy? The Med yes, but what year and grid?

[KeptinCranky]

U-46 reports from patrol 2 Kiel to AM79
left base 9-10-39 2213u

11-10
AN8239 Dutch Armed Trawler NE slow

12-10
1150u AN8512 Ship SW medium (neutral)
1318u AN8544 Ship NE slow (neutral)
2250u AN8196 ship ENE medium

13-10
2136u BF3352 Ship ENE slow (neutral)

14-10
0150u BF3236 Ship E medium
1520u BF3374 Ship W slow
2130u BF3638 Ship ESE slow

15-10
2240u BF2474 Ship SW slow

16-10
0420u BF2633 Ship ENE slow
0820u BF2555 Ship ENE slow
1620u AM9971 Ship ENE medium (try and intercept that one I dare ya :D)
2306u BF2614 Ship ENE slow

17-10
1710u BF2564 Ship W slow
2250u BF5123 Ship NE medium

18-10
0300u BF2871 Ship WNW medium
0750u AM9753 Large Convoy W medium
2130u BF2177 Ship WSW slow
2300u AM8997 Ship ENE slow

19-10
0917u BF2414 Small Merchant NNE slow
1010u BF2177 Ship SSW medium
1231u BF1666 Ship N medium
1440u BF1388 Ship NE medium
2250u BF1564 Ship NE slow

20-10
0050u BF1347 Whaling Factory Ship ENE medium
0756u BF1232 Neutral Tanker E fast
1124u BF1262 Small Merchant W slow

1935u Message to BDU habe kein torpedos und schnapps mehr, Bitte schicken sie eine Flugboote mit torpedos un schnapps nach AM7999, U-46 ist da im nachsten 24 stunden. Danke

23-10
2250u AM5553 Ship WSW slow

24-10
1705u AF7354 Warship W 25 kts
2300u AF7511 Warship WSW fast (same warship)

25-10
0810u AN1152 Warship S fast (also the same warship)
1210u AM3565 Ship SW medium

26-10
2100u AM3481 Ship WSW medium

27-10
0200u AN1338 Destroyer WSW medium
0450u AN1323 Small Merchant E slow
1655u AN1419 Passenger/Cargo ESE slow

28-10
0030u AN1836 Coastal Tanker SE slow
0430u AN1665 Ship SW slow
0500u AN4745 Ship WSW slow
1500u AN4344 Medium Cargo ENE slow
2300u AM4386 Large Merchant NNE medium

2350u Message to BDU from U46 grid AM4383 ammunition for deckgun and flak depleted, heavy damage to forward torpedo tubes, am returning to base, estimated tonnage sunk 70000 BRT

Returned to Kiel 1-11-39 1900u
Medals by the bucket :D

(what I didn't tell BDU was that my forward tubes were damaged ramming that last Large Merchant to bits, none of the crew squealed on me either)

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

[Dont blame me, Mohr wanted that convoy.


:o .......... who doesnt...
large convoy with large tankers... this could be a 200k or 300k convoy

And u think u can sink them all.

with my deck gun and torpedo's.... probaly il get destroyed by some DD's... :hmm:

but i take the risk :yep:

[azn_132]

[Dont blame me, Mohr wanted that convoy.


:o .......... who doesnt...
large convoy with large tankers... this could be a 200k or 300k convoy

And u think u can sink them all.

with my deck gun and torpedo's.... probaly il get destroyed by some DD's... :hmm:

but i take the risk :yep:

Post some pics then.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

[Dont blame me, Mohr wanted that convoy.


:o .......... who doesnt...
large convoy with large tankers... this could be a 200k or 300k convoy

And u think u can sink them all.

with my deck gun and torpedo's.... probaly il get destroyed by some DD's... :hmm:

but i take the risk :yep:

Post some pics then.

aye sir :arrgh!:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

i finaly found some convoys... not as big as azn's convoy's but still big...

2 were in the med...
and 1 i just passed on my way to Scapa Flow as the idiot i am i started to blest the ships while ignoring the escorts...

got out with lots of damage and 1 time even died...

here are the picts

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb231/evangelionunit03/SH3Img4-6-2007_3-1.jpg
this convoy was sailing east south-east
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb231/evangelionunit03/SH3Img4-6-2007_4.jpg
this one is near Valletta
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb231/evangelionunit03/SH3Img4-6-2007_6.jpg
and this is the one near brittania... and in that convoy i took only 1 target... later was a emergency kill
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb231/evangelionunit03/SH3Img4-6-2007_6-1.jpg

[Avatar]

Holy Cow look at the size of that convoy!

pretty early in the war my fav locations are(as a novice)

1. AM52
2. BF15 This seems to be a Medium Tanker alley
3. AN16

[azn_132]

Mohr, list the grid where u found the three convoys u found.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

forgot that.... :shifty:


anyway... encountered a friendly convoy on my way to america on may 1942

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb231/evangelionunit03/SH3Img5-6-2007_0.jpg
and just couldnt resist :roll:

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb231/evangelionunit03/SH3Img5-6-2007_0-1.jpg

[Telgriff]

:o:o:o

Those convoys arent in GWX are they? I have NEVER seen a convoy(s) like that.

[Lagger123987]

What grid is it on? I'll love to find a friendly convoy.

[Canovaro]

:o:o:o

Those convoys arent in GWX are they? I have NEVER seen a convoy(s) like that.

Me neither :shifty:

[Genghis Khan]

Kaleuns,I actually need some advice regarding convoy routes right after they pass "BF13","BF15" grids in Celtic Sea.:) It's rather tricky to catch them in shallow waters of "BF" grids. (I am playing GWX v.1.03)

So does anybody know exact grids where they do hit deep waters - might be somewhere around in eastern "BE" grids?I mean convoys that leave Britain heading for U.S.

Any advices will be appreciated.Good Hunting :D :up:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

:o:o:o

Those convoys arent in GWX are they? I have NEVER seen a convoy(s) like that.

Me neither :shifty:

dont ask me....


@Genghis Khan:
just take the risk... it shows your not afraid of death :arrgh!: (like me raiding scapa flow)
if you kill the escorts first then there is no problem at all

[Brag]

Well, chaps:

Thanks to Canovaro, Now Chief of BDU Intelligence (Department B), we have Operation Spinnenetz operational. Visit the Spinnenetz thread and start filing your reports.

This thread has done its job. Thanks to everyone for participating! :up:

[Jimbuna]

Well, chaps:

Thanks to Canovaro, Now Chief of BDU Intelligence (Department B), we have Operation Spinnenetz operational. Visit the Spinnenetz thread and start filing your reports.

This thread has done its job. Thanks to everyone for participating! :up:

Nice :up:

[KeptinCranky]

Your welcome, will update :up:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

who said there couldnt be large convoy's in GWX :arrgh!:


http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb231/evangelionunit03/SH3Img8-6-2007_10.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb231/evangelionunit03/SH3Img8-6-2007_11-1.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb231/evangelionunit03/SH3Img8-6-2007_11.jpg

a 65 ships convoy

[Brag]

:huh: Is that off Norway?

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

nope... this is a ivan (russian) convoy sailing through the channal

[Lagger123987]

nope... this is a ivan (russian) convoy sailing through the channal

I can't find a convoy like this one in the channel.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

nope... this is a ivan (russian) convoy sailing through the channal

I can't find a convoy like this one in the channel.

1943

(not saying anything anymore)

[azn_132]

nope... this is a ivan (russian) convoy sailing through the channal

I can't find a convoy like this one in the channel.

1943

(not saying anything anymore)

Keepin the secret to urself.

[Lagger123987]

nope... this is a ivan (russian) convoy sailing through the channal

I can't find a convoy like this one in the channel.

1943

(not saying anything anymore)

Keepin the secret to urself.

Tell me everything! I need to find this convoy!

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

nope... this is a ivan (russian) convoy sailing through the channal

I can't find a convoy like this one in the channel.

1943

(not saying anything anymore)

Keepin the secret to urself.

Tell me everything! I need to find this convoy!

i searched my arse off for it ... not gonna tell you :smug:

[azn_132]

nope... this is a ivan (russian) convoy sailing through the channal

I can't find a convoy like this one in the channel.

1943

(not saying anything anymore)

Keepin the secret to urself.

Tell me everything! I need to find this convoy!

i searched my arse off for it ... not gonna tell you :smug:

But, u can tell me Mohr, and when is the next big convoy findin huh Mohr?

[Lagger123987]

nope... this is a ivan (russian) convoy sailing through the channal

I can't find a convoy like this one in the channel.

1943

(not saying anything anymore)

Keepin the secret to urself.

Tell me everything! I need to find this convoy!

i searched my arse off for it ... not gonna tell you :smug:

But, u can tell me Mohr, and when is the next big convoy findin huh Mohr?

I will find those big convoys, just watch, just watch.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

nope... this is a ivan (russian) convoy sailing through the channal

I can't find a convoy like this one in the channel.

1943

(not saying anything anymore)

Keepin the secret to urself.

Tell me everything! I need to find this convoy!

i searched my arse off for it ... not gonna tell you :smug:

But, u can tell me Mohr, and when is the next big convoy findin huh Mohr?

I will find those big convoys, just watch, just watch.

im sure you will... after long searches from heaven to hell and back... just like me :yep:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

after having the brits ne weapon on board (cunningtower of death) i started a new career...

just sailed out of willy and BAM brittish convoy... sadly it was on 2 sept 1939 and the convoy was neutral...
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb231/evangelionunit03/SH3Img9-6-2007_16.jpg

was thinking what to do... then i go like "aaah screw the chance of getting thrown out, load the tubes and prepare the torpedo's. mann the deck gun and fire at will"
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb231/evangelionunit03/SH3Img9-6-2007_16-1.jpg

[Lagger123987]

:o :o :o :o :o :o

I want it! Where can I h\find this convoy now? Is it in XWG? I want it!

[bigboywooly]

What the hell is that lot Mohr ?
Most of the Br merchant fleet there off Helgoland in 39 ?

:rotfl:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

What the hell is that lot Mohr ?
Most of the Br merchant fleet there off Helgoland in 39 ?

:rotfl:

must of them tugg boats and sailships

[bigboywooly]

Well they are a year early and a bit off course for Dunkirk

:rotfl:

[azn_132]

Well they are a year early and a bit off course for Dunkirk

:rotfl:

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[Lagger123987]

Well they are a year early and a bit off course for Dunkirk

:rotfl:

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Whats so funny?

[Jimbuna]

I'm not so sure 'funny' is the word I'd use :hmm:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

I'm not so sure 'funny' is the word I'd use :hmm:

i would more use the word suspicious :yep:

[Jimbuna]

I'm not so sure 'funny' is the word I'd use :hmm:

i would more use the word suspicious :yep:

Your getting warm ;)

[Lagger123987]

What the hell is that lot Mohr ?
Most of the Br merchant fleet there off Helgoland in 39 ?

:rotfl:

must of them tugg boats and sailships

can we torp them? I can't, they turn to quick.

[bigboywooly]

They arent in GWX or WAC or anywhere
They are convoys made up in the mission ed by Mohr

[azn_132]

They arent in GWX or WAC or anywhere
They are convoys made up in the mission ed by Mohr

Mohr and me are goin to make somthin like that lata, we're still makin and testin it.

[Lagger123987]

They arent in GWX or WAC or anywhere
They are convoys made up in the mission ed by Mohr

Mohr and me are goin to make somthin like that lata, we're still makin and testin it.

WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE DONE HUH? A MINUTE?

[azn_132]

They arent in GWX or WAC or anywhere
They are convoys made up in the mission ed by Mohr

Mohr and me are goin to make somthin like that lata, we're still makin and testin it.

WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE DONE HUH? A MINUTE?

more than a min, can u hold ur mouth?

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

They arent in GWX or WAC or anywhere
They are convoys made up in the mission ed by Mohr

Mohr and me are goin to make somthin like that lata, we're still makin and testin it.

WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE DONE HUH? A MINUTE?

more than a min, can u hold ur mouth?

it will take days or so.... lots of coffee and testing for sure :lol:

[Lagger123987]

They arent in GWX or WAC or anywhere
They are convoys made up in the mission ed by Mohr

Mohr and me are goin to make somthin like that lata, we're still makin and testin it.

WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE DONE HUH? A MINUTE?

more than a min, can u hold ur mouth?

it will take days or so.... lots of coffee and testing for sure :lol:

coffee is ewwwwe, how many days?

[bigboywooly]

You cant mod without loads of coffee
Late nights
Testing testing and more testing
:dead:

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

You cant mod without loads of coffee
Late nights
Testing testing and more testing
:dead:

you forgot : less sleep,red eye's and the possibility to fall asleep on the keyboard :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[azn_132]

You cant mod without loads of coffee
Late nights
Testing testing and more testing
:dead:

you forgot : less sleep,red eye's and the possibility to fall asleep on the keyboard :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Well, Mohr is my tester, Im makin the convoys for this mod we're makin.

[Lagger123987]

You cant mod without loads of coffee
Late nights
Testing testing and more testing
:dead:

you forgot : less sleep,red eye's and the possibility to fall asleep on the keyboard :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Well, Mohr is my tester, Im makin the convoys for this mod we're makin.

What about me?

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

You cant mod without loads of coffee
Late nights
Testing testing and more testing
:dead:

you forgot : less sleep,red eye's and the possibility to fall asleep on the keyboard :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Well, Mohr is my tester, Im makin the convoys for this mod we're makin.

so 10-20 cups of coffee a day for me... and not much sleep...
red eyes,baggs under my eyes (almoast sandbags),wreckage of a body,lots of tensed nerves and need a sunglasses in daytime

:doh: :stare: :shifty: :huh:

[azn_132]

You cant mod without loads of coffee
Late nights
Testing testing and more testing
:dead:

you forgot : less sleep,red eye's and the possibility to fall asleep on the keyboard :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Well, Mohr is my tester, Im makin the convoys for this mod we're makin.

so 10-20 cups of coffee a day for me... and not much sleep...
red eyes,baggs under my eyes (almoast sandbags),wreckage of a body,lots of tensed nerves and need a sunglasses in daytime

:doh: :stare: :shifty: :huh:

Then get some time off from testin, no need to test all day and night.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

You cant mod without loads of coffee
Late nights
Testing testing and more testing
:dead:

you forgot : less sleep,red eye's and the possibility to fall asleep on the keyboard :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Well, Mohr is my tester, Im makin the convoys for this mod we're makin.

so 10-20 cups of coffee a day for me... and not much sleep...
red eyes,baggs under my eyes (almoast sandbags),wreckage of a body,lots of tensed nerves and need a sunglasses in daytime

:doh: :stare: :shifty: :huh:

Then get some time off from testin, no need to test all day and night.

:huh: did i say i give up ?... NAAAAAAAAH

[Lagger123987]

ME want it ME want it ME want it ME want it NOW

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

ME want it ME want it ME want it ME want it NOW

seems you forgot what i told you :nope: :nope:

[Lagger123987]

ME want it ME want it ME want it ME want it NOW

seems you forgot what i told you :nope: :nope:

oopise, sorry Mohr.

[Kaleu. Jochen Mohr]

keep it in mind.... :yep: