Damn! Have to fly Airbus this trip...

[SUBMAN1]

Needed to make a 24 hour advanced notice flight into Toronto, and guess what? Unless I want to pay an extra $1K, I have to fly Airbus this time - first time in 10 years. I always pick my flights by aircraft type, but if you want something fast, your choices, especially North of the border can be rather limited.

Anyway, lets see if my cards are OK since I seriously considered the extra $1K to fly Boeing. Last time I fly an A319, water leaked out of the roof onto my leg. Blah!

-S

[waste gate]

I had to fly a A-340 for repositioning once. The noisiest, passenger un-friendly A/C I have ever been on. Fortunately, I had a pass to the flight deck. The crew complained about the A/C almost the entire trip. They would have rather flown Boeing as well. You are not alone Subman!

PS When ever I think about it, I'm reminded of the trains in India.

[baggygreen]

I've never stressed much over aircraft type. I do try to avoid taking dehavilland dash 8s, but i love flying so much i'll take anythin!:yep: :yep:

[SUBMAN1]

My father always had aircraft, so I've been exposed since before I was 3. I have a love of flying, but everytime I fly an airbus, I feel it has hate of the passenger and cheapness associated with it. Looking at the passenger windows for example - they are so tiny, you can barely get an American quarter through it! Cattle cars is the best way to describe them.

Contrast that to the new 787 being developed and Boeing has a totally different approach! There already large windows of the Boeing's current planes is going to be 3 times the size in the coming generations! They take passenger comfort to another level. Though you can deck your inside of your plane out (except superstructure items like windows or noise levels for example) in any aircraft, I have yet to either tour or fly an Airbus decked out any other way than cattle car config.

Most Boeing aircraft, especially the larger ones like 777's are decked out for creature comforts in every way. It is like even the airlines take an extra special pride in owning Boeing aircraft if they decide to purchase them. I have yet to fly a 777 for example that did not have an individual GPS unit for each and every passenger, and it also doubles as your own movie screen so you can pick whatever movie you want to watch for example. It is just a comfortable plane. Period. Even the smaller ones are less cramped than any Airbus.

Anyway, I expect 7 hours of misery tomorrow. :cry: :-?

[Tchocky]

I find the comfort factor is usually down to the airline you fly with, and not the aircraft.

I've been through more nasty flights on Boeing than Airbus, but thats probably due to pilots/weather/airline. It's all the same cigar tube

[SUBMAN1]

I find the comfort factor is usually down to the airline you fly with, and not the aircraft.

I've been through more nasty flights on Boeing than Airbus, but thats probably due to pilots/weather/airline. It's all the same cigar tube

Maybe in europe its like that. Try flying in the US - Most (though not all) are night and day between Airbus and Boeing. That is why i usually will pay up to $100 more for a flight to fly Boeing aircraft specifically.

-S

[Lurchi]

This is cute - silly Europe Bashing by pissing on Airbus and gloryfying Boeing ... http://www.my-smileys.de/smileys3/gaehn.gif.
Primitive

P.S. A Dreamliner is great but you may consider if it would ever be developed without the pressure of competiton by ... eh ... Airbus?

[The Avon Lady]

I couldn't care less where the plane is made. Comfort (so to speak) and safety are what count.

Our Airbus economy class experiences have all been worse than equivalent Boeing ones. And, I agree that 777s are very nice.

UPDATE: Hate 737s, though. :down:

[Camaero]

Boeing:rock: :rock:
http://www.b17flyinglegend.com/survivors/boeing.jpg




Airbus::down: :down:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/singingman7777/PrincessFallingRock.gif

That is my in depth analysis of this subject.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

I'm 6' 7" and have to fly economy. Not looking forward to 25hrs of that. :down:

[TteFAboB]

I never flew in a big Airbus so I only know the tiny little ones. My Aunt crossed the Atlantic in that long Airbus with 4 engines (whatever it's called), leaving from Portugal because TAP is dirty cheap. She said it was the worst flight she ever had but TAP was to blame as much as the plane itself.

[fatty]

Could not care less what kind of plane I fly. Truthfully I have been none the wiser whether I've been in a Boeing or an Airbus. But some of my best commercial flying memories have been in tiny Beechcraft-type turboprops. Love having the captain come out back to chat about the flight :)

[Skybird]

The question of which airplane is the most comfortable one will be needed to be answered again once the A380 enters normal service this autumn. The seat configuration is depending on the demands the carriers are demanding, of course, but typically the plane offers 50% more space, but adds only 35% more seats (judging by the demands of carriers who ordered so far), which is said to increase the space per passenger even in economy class. Cabin comfort also is specified to be the most silent and best-air-conditioned cabin of any type of airliner in operation. Add to that an unrivalled level of space and luxury for the premium flight classes, a fuel consummation rate 20% below that of the latest 747 type, most modern cockpit design and an agile handling that pilots so far have described to match that of a small business jet despite the A380 being a huge beast of a bird, and you know who currently leads the pack concerning aircraft design. The multi-national mismanagement that brought the consortium into trouble over the last years does not change the technical specifications of the airplane itself. Of course, the Dreamliner will follow sooner or later, let's see what it will bring. But both airplanes would not exist - without the competition between Boeing and Airbus. - I personally will always prefer a travel per ship, if I could afford it time-wise.

[waste gate]

Where are you getting the fuel efficiency numbers from. Even if the numbers you are stateing are correct (20% increase over B747) it has nothing to do with the airframe and everything to do with the powerplant(s) attached to it. .

[Heibges]

I was in a C-130, sitting in a cargo net, we lost 2 engines and had to do an emergency landing in Harrisburg Pennsylvania. I'm told the C-130 can fly on one engine, but they didn't want to take the chance.

We came in fast.

That was a bad flight.:down:

[ASWnut101]

Boeing:rock: :rock:
http://www.b17flyinglegend.com/survivors/boeing.jpg




Airbus::down: :down:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/singingman7777/PrincessFallingRock.gif

That is my in depth analysis of this subject.


Perfect analysis. :up:



P.S. The long Airbus with four engines is the A-340. :yep:

[Etienne]

I have yet to fly a 777 for example that did not have an individual GPS unit for each and every passenger, and it also doubles as your own movie screen so you can pick whatever movie you want to watch for example. It is just a comfortable plane. Period. Even the smaller ones are less cramped than any Airbus.

These can also be added to an airbus. They're not standard issue on the boeing, either, and they're not individual GPS units - They're repeater of some cheap electronic chart system, plugged into one of the plane's GPS receiver (Or to an additional unit, if the airline so choses)

Sorry, I'm on a GPS nitpicking rampage, lately.

[perisher]

Didn't I read somewhere that the US Government is going to replace the Sikorsky helicopters used by the President with some new ones?

[gnirtS]

The only differences are the airline not aircraft these days. All planes can be outfitted the same if the airlines so chose. Its the airline policy that decides everything from seat pitch to passenger entertainment to decor and food.

Airbus and Boeing design fuselages are largely identical - its what the airline does to the inside of it that matters not what factory built the aircraft.

Airlines can even decide the smoothness of the flight to an extent by its selection of route and slots. Again, nothing to do with the aircraft type (at least not for similar spec planes).

If i pay £20 for a return flight which happens often i usually find myself on an old 737 with sparse/tired looking decor, a free glass of water if im lucky and a seat pitch resulting in my knees rammed up my own nose. If i pay £250 for the same flight generally i get a better decked out aircraft regardless of type and a bit more luxuries. Whether its WORTH it for 2-3 hours is another matter.

And yes the so called "GPS unit" isnt. Quite simply it just takes the position from the planes INS (NOT the gps if it has one) and relayed it onto a customer friendly moving map.

I've flown boeing,airbus,Dehaviland and loads of others. If the airline is cheap the flight is cheap and nasty. If the airline wants to make things nice it will be regardless of what piece of aluminium you're stuck in.

[fatty]

Didn't I read somewhere that the US Government is going to replace the Sikorsky helicopters used by the President with some new ones?

Probably, the VH-3D and VH-60N are to be replaced by the VH-71 Kestrel (Agusta Westland EH101). Here in Canada we use the EH101 under the designation of CH-149 Cormorant for search and rescue :up:

[Sailor Steve]

My first flying memories are of a Boeing jumbo:

http://www.ovi.ch/b377/articles/boeingUnited/stratocruiser.jpg

http://www.ovi.ch/b377/articles/boeingUnited/index.html

[perisher]

Didn't I read somewhere that the US Government is going to replace the Sikorsky helicopters used by the President with some new ones?

Probably, the VH-3D and VH-60N are to be replaced by the VH-71 Kestrel (Agusta Westland EH101). Here in Canada we use the EH101 under the designation of CH-149 Cormorant for search and rescue :up:

Not a Boeing then:roll:

[perisher]

This one isn't boeing home http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6620461.stm

[gnirtS]

This one is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KhZwsYtNDE

[wireman]

B-777: greatest transport out there. Almost had to be evicted from it by the Sheriff.

A320: Proof that if you take a turd and put wings on it someone will buy it and fly it-much like the Metroliner.

[gnirtS]

B-777: greatest transport out there. Almost had to be evicted from it by the Sheriff.

A320: Proof that if you take a turd and put wings on it someone will buy it and fly it-much like the Metroliner.

And the proof of the above bull**** is what exactly ?

Both aluminium tubes with airline selected extras.

[wireman]

The proof is the hours at the controls of both aircraft I have, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[Lurchi]

The proof is the hours at the controls of both aircraft I have, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. Oh really? Ah, let me guess ... MS Flightsimulator X, right? ;)

Seriously, the if the A320 is so crappy then why it is still Airbus' best seller? Comparing it to the much larger 777 is a joke too. You can spit on Airbus as much as you want - it will not change the fact that Airbus is a big success as a joint venture and they didn't achieve their status by building "turds with wings on it"

(or are winged turds already enough to compete with Boeing :hmm:)

[HunterICX]

Hold your fire gentlemen,

comparing stuff isnt a good thing to do between nations

look, if I fly as a passenger I dont give a damn what type the plane is
the only thing I know about Boeing and Airbus is.

they both make that darn engine noise continuesly the whole flight.
they both make my ears hurt when they drop altitude
they both can have some turbulence

important of all about both is

I,m happy when I get out of the darn thing :up:
so I can kiss the ground and happy that I reached my destination.

if you are going to compare between europe and america whats better then the other well isnt that going to satisfy us?
no, so drop it

what the big deal anyway , both nations have mayor differences in stuff

like we have lots of good cars, like BMW , Mercedez and stuff
America has its proud Mustang

they all have DIFFERENCES and its good that we have DIFFERENCE or else our life would be boring isnt it. wearing the same clothes, driving the same cars etc etc

now keep it civil people :yep:

carry on.

HunterICX

[hoagiedriver]

As long as it doesn't have propellers, who cares...

[wireman]

This past monday I had to taxi back to the gate 3 times due to seperate mechanicals on my 320. Never had that happen in any of the Boeings I flew (727,737,747,757,767, and 777). When I go to work, since I am now on the 320/319, I look forward to many unpaid minutes which ad up too hours in a month because the bus is garbage. My 3 years on it are proof enough to me. "Gonna cuss if it's a bus"

[CCIP]

Is it strange that I prefer Airbuses? :huh:

(guess my experience with them was just fine so far)

[wireman]

If you're a pax then I think not. Not much difference for the most part. Except for the mechanical cancellations that is. From a pilot's perspective, you would be eyed with a jaundiced one. The only people who like busses are the mechanics due to the overtime pay. They don't like learning french though.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

wow alot of pple here hate airbus.... why??:doh:

edit* my signature wont work.. its a .gif animation... how do i fix it???

[Morts]

edit* my signature wont work.. its a .gif animation... how do i fix it???
B/C you just posted the link and not the IMG code:up:

[Rilder]

As long as it doesn't have propellers, who cares...

Hey hey hey, Prop planes are way cooler then those jet contraptions... :p

[elite_hunter_sh3]

LOL i got it to work and boy does it look funny :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::|\\:rock:

[fatty]

Kenya Airways 737-800 crashed in Cameroon today, 114 onboard :nope:

[Camaero]

As long as it doesn't have propellers, who cares...

Hey hey hey, Prop planes are way cooler then those jet contraptions... :p

That's what I was going to say. Prop planes forever!!! They have a soul ya know.:know:

[baggygreen]

You guys suck, get yourself a G-IV:p










yeh...... i wish

[JScones]

I've never stressed much over aircraft type. I do try to avoid taking dehavilland dash 8s, but i love flying so much i'll take anythin!:yep: :yep:
LOL! When I lived in Newcastle we had the DHC-6 "Twin Otter" for the Belmont-Sydney route. I loved that plane, even in windy weather - added "excitement". :rotfl:

Now with QANTAS it's pretty much exclusively Boeing or Dash 8 flights (don't go to Shanghai much to get an Airbus, LOL!).