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XabbaRus
04-24-07, 01:29 PM
You know how a whole bunch of pop singers around the world are going to be doing this earth aid concert to "raise our awareness" of climate change?
I have been wondering if anyone has worked out howmuch these concerts are going to contribute to carbon emissions.
You have to look at the electricity being produced to power all the equipment, the impact of people travelling too and from the event, road, rail and air. So anyone think it is just a bunch of BS with most of the participants doing it to keep their profileup and looking like they care, eg Chris Martin from ColdPlay?
Where are all the ones who did Band Aid 20 etc.....
waste gate
04-24-07, 01:36 PM
Spot on.
It's far to late to do a bloody thing about it.
Tchocky
04-24-07, 01:38 PM
Nope, Earth Day Concert is certified carbon neutral. Took me 3 seconds to find that out
As regards attendants, they're most likely paying/donating
waste gate
04-24-07, 01:45 PM
Nope, Earth Day Concert is certified carbon neutral. Took me 3 seconds to find that out
As regards attendants, they're most likely paying/donating
That is another interesting thing about the 'global warming' debate. Seems one can buy his/her way out of it, either by direct payments/donations or carbon credits. I'm all for capitalism, but if a crisis really existed how does money aleviate that crisis? Sound like the indulgences/dispensations the Catholic Church used to sell for entrance to heaven.
Tchocky
04-24-07, 01:50 PM
It's hardly just buying your way out. Is giving to charity buying your way out? In a moral suasion sense, yes. But you're also giving to an organisation that can put that fifty bucks to more effective use than you can individually.
And there's hard evidence, too. If your money kicks the total over the amount to buy scrubbers, a factory's atmospheric emissions can be reduced. It's not an indulgence :p
I'm all for capitalism, but if a crisis really existed how does money aleviate that crisis? money can be exchanged for goods and services :)
waste gate
04-24-07, 01:59 PM
It's hardly just buying your way out. Is giving to charity buying your way out? In a moral suasion sense, yes. But you're also giving to an organisation that can put that fifty bucks to more effective use than you can individually.
And there's hard evidence, too. If your money kicks the total over the amount to buy scrubbers, a factory's atmospheric emissions can be reduced. It's not an indulgence :p
I'm all for capitalism, but if a crisis really existed how does money aleviate that crisis? money can be exchanged for goods and services :)
And do the people to whom you give your money turn around and give it to corporations to buy these scrubbers of which you speak? betcha not.
It's hardly just buying your way out. Is giving to charity buying your way out? In a moral suasion sense, yes. But you're also giving to an organisation that can put that fifty bucks to more effective use than you can individually.
And there's hard evidence, too. If your money kicks the total over the amount to buy scrubbers, a factory's atmospheric emissions can be reduced. It's not an indulgence :p
I'm all for capitalism, but if a crisis really existed how does money aleviate that crisis? money can be exchanged for goods and services :)
And do the people to whom you give your money turn around and give it to corporations to buy these scrubbers of which you speak? betcha not.
Not only that, the devil is in the definitions. Do they include everything? Such as the gas people used to get to the concert, the power and pollution caused to advertize it? The trash it generated? I wonder...
bradclark1
04-24-07, 02:42 PM
I look at it this way. I'm kind of green but my thinking behind it and probably behind a lot of greenies is to push hard for research and alternatives.
Every time this comes up the choir begins about how shallow thinking people thinks that to be green you have to drive a horse and buggy. Its not about switching off every light when not in use it's about finding a different way.
horse and buggy.
Summer is here, a horse and cart lots of fresh air and free horse sh*t for the garden. :sunny:
Kapitan_Phillips
04-24-07, 03:17 PM
I'd go if there was actually a band worth going to see going :rotfl:
Tchocky
04-24-07, 04:23 PM
And do the people to whom you give your money turn around and give it to corporations to buy these scrubbers of which you speak? betcha not.
Yeah, charities are only in it to line their pockets
waste gate
04-24-07, 04:27 PM
And do the people to whom you give your money turn around and give it to corporations to buy these scrubbers of which you speak? betcha not.
Yeah, charities are only in it to line their pockets
And to think I thought it was about saving the planet!!??!!:rotfl: :rotfl:
http://newsbusters.org/node/12226
Good luck to ya.
The only ones who will be benefiting albeit they're doing it free will be the artists themselves. After the concert watch their album sales soar.
Jimbuna
04-26-07, 11:12 AM
You could have a point there :yep:
Skybird
04-26-07, 12:45 PM
I hate this kind of events since the days of the first band aid concert. If I were a singer or musician, I would always refuse to take part in such things. If public opinions wants to crucify me for not being pro-help this, pro-help that, I would set up a media fight, pointing out the hysteric element and uselessness in this show. And that'S what it all is: it's just a S-H-O-W . everybody will feel good and and will have a happening and will walk home with the convition to have done something great, good, important - as if it would be so easy to solve problems! I would make the organizers hating me from the bottom of their candy-sweet souls.
I doubt that poverty in Africa, starving ones around ther world, or global climate have been or will be impressed by one more day when the rich one just had another celebration day and cable networks clipped adverts.
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