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fastfed
04-20-07, 11:36 AM
I know allot if it is classified. But playing some of the current Sub games ( like Dangerous Waters, or Subcommand ) Those fast attack subs don't go much deeper than 1300 feet.

Then I look up civilan subs, like that of

http://www.ussubs.com/submarines/phoenix_1000.php3

that can dive down to 1000k feet!!!

WTF!!

I really think the current subs of many nations and of course the USA, can dive much much deeper than anyone really thinks..

Discuss

Linton
04-20-07, 11:48 AM
I doubt if you will ever get a true answer to your question about any in service boat.The depth will also be factored to counter aging of the hull.HMS Swiftsure went very deep once when I believe there was a little confusion over meters and feet!!She was the first boat of her class withdrawn.
Take a look here as well:http://www.rumration.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums/viewtopic/t=204/postdays=0/postorder=asc/start=0.html
Some of the language is robust!!

down and out
04-20-07, 11:50 AM
Whoa

http://www.ussubs.com/submarines/phoenix_1000.php3

Thats some kind of sub
:hmm: Wonder how much that toy would be

fatty
04-20-07, 11:54 AM
Agreed that the depths given in our games are probably conservative. But I think that with all the hull penetrations for weapons, sensors, and a large propeller shaft, combined with potentially sacrificing durability for stealth in hull design, that these depths aren't TOO conservative.

Also kudos on digging up the Phoenix 1000 site. When I am a supervillain that will be a must-have!

geetrue
04-20-07, 12:46 PM
I have personally been down to 1,100 feet and that was on a boomer (USS Ethan Allen SSBN 608),
but we had 16 missiles on board.

Fast attacks can go much deeper, but why tell the world that measures their own ability to do such things.

But here's my best guess on how deep a US General Dynamics built submarine can go ...
1,XXX feet from keel to the surface. This would be my best guess. :know:

loynokid
04-20-07, 03:38 PM
i bet that seawolves can go about 2000 feet, that might seem like alot but in DW they can dive to 1900 somthin, so thats my estimate

Tchocky
04-20-07, 04:22 PM
As deep as they have to, that's my best guess

waste gate
04-20-07, 04:46 PM
Can't some projection be made based on HY80, HY100 steel etc... and the current standard?

Rav3n
04-20-07, 05:55 PM
Check out some of the russian subs..Most of them have double hulls. Sierra class can go down to 2,300 feet (Maximum Safe Depth). Or the Mike class, 3000 feet (prob could go deeper than that too) She went down in 1989 after a fire broke out in the aft compartment.

baggygreen
04-20-07, 11:19 PM
I was always under the impression that the alfa was the deepest-diving sub (of the soviet era anyway). 3000 feet for a damaged sub, thatd result in several stained pants i spose!

Onkel Neal
04-20-07, 11:41 PM
All the way to the bottom, of course. But they may not be in any condition to surface after that.

Sir Big Jugs
04-21-07, 01:47 AM
All the way to the bottom, of course. But they may not be in any condition to surface after that.

Dang, beat me to it!:arrgh!:

Ostfriese
04-21-07, 01:57 AM
Check out some of the russian subs..Most of them have double hulls. Sierra class can go down to 2,300 feet (Maximum Safe Depth). Or the Mike class, 3000 feet (prob could go deeper than that too) She went down in 1989 after a fire broke out in the aft compartment.

Almost all modern combat subs come with double hulls. The russian subs used titanium hulls, which were more stable than usual hulls. Titanium however is very expensive and very difficult to work with.

Civilian subs usually can go much deeper because they have less to no devices that need access to both the surrounding water and the sub's interior at the same time (like torpedo tubes, periscopes and so on).

P_Funk
04-21-07, 04:32 AM
Civilian subs usually can go much deeper because they have less to no devices that need access to both the surrounding water and the sub's interior at the same time (like torpedo tubes, periscopes and so on).
It amazes me that they can have those deep diving subs that have those massive glass bubbles for viewing. I mean. I'd feel weird looking at that glass. I'd feel much more comfortable with Titanium.

So enough of all this speculation.:p Are there any recorded instances of super deep diving that we can look at? Like a nice wiki or like an article? Anyone here want to be the first to declassify some harrowing ordeal?;)

Ostfriese
04-21-07, 04:50 AM
It amazes me that they can have those deep diving subs that have those massive glass bubbles for viewing. I mean. I'd feel weird looking at that glass. I'd feel much more comfortable with Titanium.

So enough of all this speculation.:p Are there any recorded instances of super deep diving that we can look at? Like a nice wiki or like an article? Anyone here want to be the first to declassify some harrowing ordeal?;)
How about the Trieste (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathyscaphe_Trieste)? 35,760 ft on Jan 23rd, 1960.

P_Funk
04-21-07, 06:11 AM
It amazes me that they can have those deep diving subs that have those massive glass bubbles for viewing. I mean. I'd feel weird looking at that glass. I'd feel much more comfortable with Titanium.

So enough of all this speculation.:p Are there any recorded instances of super deep diving that we can look at? Like a nice wiki or like an article? Anyone here want to be the first to declassify some harrowing ordeal?;)
How about the Trieste (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathyscaphe_Trieste)? 35,760 ft on Jan 23rd, 1960.
You just wasted an hour and a half of my time on that. I read that then clicked this link then that... before I knew it I was reading about the Virginia class submarine and how apparently NATO calls the Russian Akula class a Typhoon but that the Russians have a different one called an Akula. Oh and somehow I ended up with a page about "asteroid deflection strategies".

I love the internet.:roll:

Kapitan
04-21-07, 07:19 AM
Dont know about western submarines too much, but the russian submarines are deep diving some like the alfa class can go to 750 meters the deepest diving millatry submarine was the russian mike class submarine which sank in 1989 it was able to dive to 1,020meters.

most russian submarines dive to only around 650 meters.

Etienne
04-21-07, 07:52 AM
Can't some projection be made based on HY80, HY100 steel etc... and the current standard?

For your results to have any kind of accuracy, you'd need extremely precise structural plans of the boat, as well as detailed schematic of all the through-hulls.

And a load of free time and computing power. Like way too much free time.