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Egon01
04-18-07, 02:07 PM
Anyone can tell me what happend to my map and how can I fix this ?
http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mapas6.jpg

It happened when I installed patch 1.2, no mods.

Thank you

Kant Schwimm
04-18-07, 02:10 PM
Are you using nvidia card?:hmm:

AVGWarhawk
04-18-07, 02:11 PM
Did you start a new career or attempt to start a career you already had going?

Egon01
04-18-07, 02:13 PM
Yes, I use Nvidia card, 7600GT.

Yes, I started new career.

SteamWake
04-18-07, 02:13 PM
Did you start a new career or attempt to start a career you already had going?

Wont let you do that says "Invalid file" or something of that sort.

I "heard" that you can continue from a base "autosave" file but I wouldent recommend it.

AVGWarhawk
04-18-07, 02:16 PM
Did you start a new career or attempt to start a career you already had going?
Wont let you do that says "Invalid file" or something of that sort.

I "heard" that you can continue from a base "autosave" file but I wouldent recommend it.
I started a new career also. No issue. Just wondering if it was forced or a workaround like SH3 had.

:hmm: Hmmm...I'm at a loss on this one.

Kant Schwimm
04-18-07, 02:17 PM
Yes, I use Nvidia card, 7600GT.

Yes, I started new career.

I'm starting to think theres somthing in 1.2 that dont like nvidia, was reluctant to say at first since i just installed vista :damn: :damn: but i'm seeing a few nvidia users here reporting graphic anomalies since 1.2 update, try reinstalling drivers, not saying this is THE problem but might help.

deamyont
04-18-07, 02:39 PM
Ive got the same problem, however Im using an ATI card (x850xt 256)... Havent had this before, probobly something with 1.2

Kant Schwimm
04-18-07, 02:40 PM
That kicks my nvidia theory in the teeth then:88)

shad43
04-18-07, 02:41 PM
I had a similar issue plus all SJ radar was gone from the game, *poof*
I installed the 1.2 patch over a 1.1 patched game *no no*
Best to uninstall the game completly, reinstall, then apply the 1.2 patch.
Now everything is fine on my system. :up:

Just goes to show you how gremlins can get into the files even when
you think all is well, always best to reinstall me thinks.

U-Bones
04-18-07, 02:41 PM
Yes, I use Nvidia card, 7600GT.

Yes, I started new career.

I have the same card - not seeing this issue.
Used an autosave and a new career, plus loaded saves.

Kant Schwimm
04-18-07, 02:44 PM
I had a similar issue plus all SJ radar was gone from the game, *poof*
I installed the 1.2 patch over a 1.1 patched game *no no*
Best to uninstall the game completly, reinstall, then apply the 1.2 patch.
Now everything is fine on my system. :up:

Shad are saying reinstall then patch with 1.2 without 1.1 first? if so i'll give that ago...

shad43
04-18-07, 02:48 PM
I had a similar issue plus all SJ radar was gone from the game, *poof*
I installed the 1.2 patch over a 1.1 patched game *no no*
Best to uninstall the game completly, reinstall, then apply the 1.2 patch.
Now everything is fine on my system. :up:
Shad are saying reinstall then patch with 1.2 without 1.1 first? if so i'll give that ago...
You dont need 1.1, its included with 1.2 :yep:
Anyway it worked for me.

deamyont
04-18-07, 02:52 PM
Reinstall did not help me. Reinstalling in the first placed caused it...

Kant Schwimm
04-18-07, 02:56 PM
I had a similar issue plus all SJ radar was gone from the game, *poof*
I installed the 1.2 patch over a 1.1 patched game *no no*
Best to uninstall the game completly, reinstall, then apply the 1.2 patch.
Now everything is fine on my system. :up:
Shad are saying reinstall then patch with 1.2 without 1.1 first? if so i'll give that ago...
You dont need 1.1, its included with 1.2 :yep:
Anyway it worked for me.
Will try that now then, thanks for the reply matey..:up:

shad43
04-18-07, 02:56 PM
Reinstall did not help me. Reinstalling in the first placed caused it...
Thats odd :doh:
If you uninstall the game then reinstall & apply the new patch all should be fine.
Unless of course you are trying to use old saves, Im sorry thats just
not a good idea, it may work for some but obviously not all.
Best to start completely fresh when a new patch comes along.
(I learned this the hard way)

shad43
04-18-07, 03:05 PM
Just another thought, when you uninstall the game it asks you if you want to keep
your saves...if you say yes you are also keeping some other files that pertain to your "old" game installation which are in the same folder. I "always" say no and let the
uninstaller delete all game related files, I even check to make sure its all gone before
I reinstall...dont take much to screw things up.
(I've found this to be true for many software applications)

richoahu
04-18-07, 03:21 PM
woah

glad i saw this thread!

i did the uninstall, told it to delete the saved files. just looked in explorer, there was still an Ubisoft file! in it was my mods folder along with some other files. so i deleted it as well.

my whole purpose was to get a "clean" instal, not have anything left that could cause an error.

i am re instaling because i was getting an error after the game gets stuck with the red loading bar, then alt+tab out with an error waiting.

so hopefuly now it will be "clean"

shad43
04-18-07, 03:35 PM
woah

glad i saw this thread!

i did the uninstall, told it to delete the saved files. just looked in explorer, there was still an Ubisoft file! in it was my mods folder along with some other files. so i deleted it as well.

my whole purpose was to get a "clean" instal, not have anything left that could cause an error.

i am re instaling because i was getting an error after the game gets stuck with the red loading bar, then alt+tab out with an error waiting.

so hopefuly now it will be "clean"

Worked for me :up:

Egon01
04-18-07, 03:41 PM
I uninstalled the game before I installed new patch.
I reinstalled drivers but it didn't help. Don't know what to do :(

AVGWarhawk
04-18-07, 03:44 PM
I uninstalled the game before I installed new patch.
I reinstalled drivers but it didn't help. Don't know what to do :(

Some said to do a complete cleaning of the original install. Get rid of the SH4 folder that holds the saved games also. Do a search of the hard drive and find anything left over. Clean it off. Do the install and the patchs. See if that helps.

Egon01
04-18-07, 03:45 PM
[quote=richoahu]woah

... just looked in explorer, there was still an Ubisoft file! in it was my mods folder along with some other files. so i deleted it as well.

quote]

Where did you find this folder ? In Documents&Settings ?
After I uninstalled old version of the game I deleted old folder because uninstaller didn't do this. I am not sure if we talk about the same folder.

Egon01
04-18-07, 04:00 PM
Map is ok now. Map bug appears when I change resolution to 1024. Now I play on 1280x1024. Strange but works for me ;)

Bilge_Rat
04-18-07, 05:28 PM
Yes, I use Nvidia card, 7600GT.

Yes, I started new career.

I'm starting to think theres somthing in 1.2 that dont like nvidia, was reluctant to say at first since i just installed vista:damn: :damn: but i'm seeing a few nvidia users here reporting graphic anomalies since 1.2 update, try reinstalling drivers, not saying this is THE problem but might help.


I have a 7900 GTX , win XP and no such issues in 1.2.

However, I see you just installed Vista, new driver issue maybe? :hmm:

walsh2509
04-18-07, 05:31 PM
GF6600GT Win XP: Got the weird Nav map, stopped the game and restarted a new career and it was ok ??? worked for me ..

nfitzsimmons
04-18-07, 05:48 PM
I uninstalled the game before I installed new patch.
I reinstalled drivers but it didn't help. Don't know what to do :(

I'm running a 7600GS with XP, clean install, patch 1.1, the 1.2. No problems. You might try a different driver.

Egon01
04-18-07, 08:03 PM
Small update for those who has the same problem:
changing resolution didn't help, sorry for this misunderstanding, problem appears when I start the SH with AA turned on (x2, x4 etc.) in nvidia panel. Just start it with "Aplication contol" option checked on. Now I am sure for 100% this is the reason.

Nothing helped in my issue. I reinstalled, deleted all files, folders - nothing. The only thing which I can do is starting SH without AA on ;)

nfitzsimmons
04-18-07, 08:49 PM
Small update for those who has the same problem:
changing resolution didn't help, sorry for this misunderstanding, problem appears when I start the SH with AA turned on (x2, x4 etc.) in nvidia panel. Just start it with "Aplication contol" option checked on. Now I am sure for 100% this is the reason.

Nothing helped in my issue. I reinstalled, deleted all files, folders - nothing. The only thing which I can do is starting SH without AA on ;)

Hmmm. I've got AA set at x4 without problems.

Egon01
04-19-07, 06:45 AM
Small update for those who has the same problem:
changing resolution didn't help, sorry for this misunderstanding, problem appears when I start the SH with AA turned on (x2, x4 etc.) in nvidia panel. Just start it with "Aplication contol" option checked on. Now I am sure for 100% this is the reason.

Nothing helped in my issue. I reinstalled, deleted all files, folders - nothing. The only thing which I can do is starting SH without AA on ;)

Hmmm. I've got AA set at x4 without problems.

My firend has 6800GS and he has not problems too ;)
Some ppl with Nvidia don't have this problem, others have some issue - I just gave the solution IF someone will need help ;)

greekfire
04-21-07, 06:42 AM
I had this EXACT problem with my Nav Map. I isolated it down to the No-CD exe I was using at the time. I did a fresh install and started running the game with the real exe and DVD in drive. Not even a hint of problems since. I use an nvidia 7900gt vcard but I don't think that is the issue. I've made no video changes that could've alleviated the issue. I had that No-CD exe for 2 days and it was total hell. I had problems with game all over the place including this map mutation. Not a single problem since I quit using the No-CD. good luck.

Engel
04-21-07, 08:07 AM
Hi...

I am in the same boat. I made 3 succesfull Patrols after starting a new career and after departing for my fifth patrol, the Map looked like the same as the Thread starter one.
I also have that "crew saying numbers" Problem I never had before. *sigh*

€dit: PC is a socket 939 AMD X2 3800, 2GB RAM, ATI 850 XT PCI-e running Win XP
€dit 2: I can also confirm that it has something to do with a No-CD exe. Running the game with the orginal exe solved my Problems.
I use Nero Drive Speed to lower the Spin of my DVD drive to reduce the noice and the high RPMs it used to spin while checking the Protection.

7Enigma
04-21-07, 10:47 AM
GF6600GT Win XP: Got the weird Nav map, stopped the game and restarted a new career and it was ok ??? worked for me ..

6800GT here, 2X AA (if that matters).

Same thing has happened 2-3 times. Just a simple restart of the game has fixed it.

t0maz
05-05-07, 06:36 AM
Confirmed!
I've reinstalled the game and patched direct to 1.2 Problem still occurs sometimes. I've deleted no-cd exe and return to orginal exe. All issues disapear! :rock:The same map issue, issue that i cannot fire torpedos sometimes and flat characters with big "voodoo" eyes :lol: So do not use nocd exe, or at least u may want to check some newer one.

heartc
05-05-07, 07:51 AM
Confirmed!
I've reinstalled the game and patched direct to 1.2 Problem still occurs sometimes. I've deleted no-cd exe and return to orginal exe. All issues disapear! :rock:The same map issue, issue that i cannot fire torpedos sometimes and flat characters with big "voodoo" eyes :lol: So do not use nocd exe, or at least u may want to check some newer one.
I believe there finally should be made a sticky. :roll: One-liner in the header:

"Don't use a no-DVD exe or the copy protection will corrupt your game"

Would cut down on like 50% of the "bug" reports with newer members joining the SHIV forum every other day who might not yet be aware of this.

capt_frank
05-05-07, 09:17 AM
I'm using these drivers on my 7900GS's, work well:

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1556

FIREWALL
05-05-07, 09:42 AM
BFG 7600GS 512mb no CTD since day 1.
After patch 1,2 and many different mods still no ctd.
All I did was defrag and shut down background programs.

Running game cranked to max.

Get back to basics and you won't have so many problems.

BTW have only 3+ years EXP on computer and also built this rig.


Quit trying to reinvent the wheel. :D

meatball
05-05-07, 11:44 AM
Looks like the new copy protection system is working good. Let's just hope in a year or so UBI releases a patch that removes the protection. Doubtful this will happen I realize, but atleast publishers like THQ understand that paying customers don't appreciate being treated like criminals in the name of copy protection.

Not that I'm complaining that UBI dropped Starforce; I guess it could be worse :p

U-4053
05-05-07, 12:33 PM
I have the same problems with my game.
I have uninstalled Defragged, Scan Disked, run Registry cleaners.
I do get the chop Suey map from time to time, and I have the No DVD fixed exe as well.
All I do is stop the game exit completely out and just restart it, goes away .
It's a little inconveniant, but with kids around, I will suffer the slight inconveniance in order to save my DVD game disk at the tune of $ 49.99 a Smack.
I also experianced the not being able to fire the torpedo's , but that only happened when I was doing one of the Spy incerts into enemy territory, as soon as I get away from the area where the spy was to be incerted, the problem stopped and I could then again fire my torpedo's.
And then I could reverse course and re enter that same area and hunt at will.
The other Issue I have noticed is that when the Jap betty bombers fly over my sub and drop their ordinance, they then do really gnarley cartwheels and flips until they crash into the sea next to the sub.
Other than that The graphics are kick ass, the play is awsome, but Multiplay leaves me dissatisfied like dry humpen on Friday night in Singapore.



Charlie


PS:
Cover your eye's

-Pv-
05-05-07, 01:17 PM
This is not an adult-only web site.
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Elder-Pirate
05-05-07, 03:40 PM
Am still running the same ole career I started with patch 1.1. Running Nvidia 7800GS ( AGP ) with 3 Gigs ram. When 1.2 came out I was half way from my base ( Pearl Harbor ), I turned around back to Pearl and entered port and just plain quit game. This was an automatic Save. I wiped out every game save in the SH4 folder "Richsavedgames folder" also its mate in the "Savedgames folder" which is listed as 00000009 or some other end number ( in My Documents ) except the last one as I said above that I manually made half way from port when 1.2 came out ( not takeing a chance just in case ), Applied 1.2 patch, defraged. cold booted and restarted SH4. when asked which save to accept I saw there were three saves, one being the one I did not wipe out and the other two were autosaves, one of them being my just entering Base.I applied that autosave and except for a few of the little bugs that seem contagious in this Sim I've no bug eyes,no weird looking maps no weird looking graphics period. Also I am not now nor have I ever ran A No CD, or any other kind of crack.
If you are useing a laptop and travel around playing SH4 ( which BTW is not supported by UBI in the first place ) I can understand not wanting to keep useing disc in the drive all the time for lack of room to carry them as you just may have more than one type game to play,but for a stationary computer not to use the disc for SH4 is just pure lazyness. You put in the disc and when security icon ( disc icon takeing place of your mouse pointer ) is through ( about 15 seconds ) you then can take out your SH4 disc and put into a plastic jewel case ( Buy jewel cases by the 10 pack, there cheap ) and never have a scratch nor warped heat problem as some has complained about. Do people honestly think they must leave the SH4 disc in the DVD drive all through the game?? Sure sounds like it from what I've read.
Anyway no problem with Nvidia card here and also very few mods installed,yet. ( allthough D/L and saved on a CD for later use )
Sorry Mod makers but some of your bigger mods are not ready for SH4 yet and will not be untill SH4 Devs complete their patches. I think some of you are finding this out as as lot of captains that have most the bugs also run a lot of heavy mods.

DO NOT get me wrong Modders for you guys are ( as Tony The Tiger says ) http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/oleman/tony.jpgGRRREAT. :rock:

OK,OK You SH4 Devs are great also, :up: it's just your UBI bosses I'm not thinking so great about. :arrgh!: