SUBSIM SH4 Patch 1.2 Bug & Discussion Thread

[kv29]

Hi guys!

Help me pls. I've installed 1.2 patch, and have the problem that sometimes I cannot launch torpedoes...neither by clicking launch button, not by using keyboard!
Also, after loading saved career file, when clicking navigation map, the map is all in some sort of stripes... so I cannot read such a map at all. If I load this file again, tha map is OK, but torpedoes cannot be launched :cry:

I use v1.2 with NOCD.

3,2Ghz, GF6800GT, 2Gb RAM

nocd are no-go. go back to the original exe.

[John Channing]

When doing lifeguard missions the downed airmen move off faster than you can approach them. Some move as fast as 10 knots. It makes it almost impossible to complete your objectives.

JCC

[Demon777]

Kv29, thanks!

One more question: is it possible to play with personal difficulty settings in career mode? There're only several difficulty levels at the beginning of career...:roll:

[CapnScurvy]

In Imperial gameplay, Deck Gun reads in Meters.

In Metric gameplay, the Position Keeper reads the range to target in YARDS not meters, when the Manual Targeting System is enabled. The math conversion of 1.0936xmeters=yards is needlessly used. In Imperial gameplay, the math conversion is NOT used. Simply put, the conversion is backwards for the two gameplay units of measurement, causing inaccurate range readings.

As the base number for the above math problem, many of the ship dimensions are inaccurate in the .cfg files. Making the range finding even more inaccurate.

[joea]

Kv29, thanks!

One more question: is it possible to play with personal difficulty settings in career mode? There're only several difficulty levels at the beginning of career...:roll:

Yes before you start your patrol you can change them in the office I believe.

[SteamWake]

Kv29, thanks!

One more question: is it possible to play with personal difficulty settings in career mode? There're only several difficulty levels at the beginning of career...:roll:

Yes before you start your patrol you can change them in the office I believe.

Click on the radio on the shelf to the left of your 'desk'.

What does this have to do with bug discussion ?

[Dustyboats]

I know we have reported "Damage without obvious attack by surface vessels" before. However playing yesterday(17th June) I attacked my first big task force. Battleships, Cruisers etc. Career Mode.
I was stopped, got off some super shots to sink a Battleship and 2 Cruisers using stern tubes, the only 8 fish I had left on a Tambor.
Without any movement to attack me by any other surface craft; with TC at 1, Ahead 1 third I sank slowly to 250ft (depth under keel in excess of 1500ft). The next thing I knew I was heading for the "deep six" with unmangeable damage; Submarine Destoyed!
There were no DC explosions. No Sonar reports of closing warships. Using Event Camera, nothing in sight for miles (Task Force was at 11+ knts). However there was a gaping hole in the hull, fwrd torpedo compartment, observed as I sank.
Is this part of the previously reported "bug" or something new?

[John Channing]

Is it possible you had a circular run torp?

JCC

[Dustyboats]

Is it possible you had a circular run torp?

JCC

JCC....I had not thought of that!!!! and here we both are with "Silent Victory" to give that possible very answer. Thanks John....I must be more attentive.

[CaptainHaplo]

Another Confirmed Bug - see here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=113372&highlight=zombie+ships for the original posting of it - and I confirmed it as listed here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=116938

Bug - resurrecting ships - if you "resink" them - you dont get credit the second time around....

[Delusory]

When I send a contact report I can't see the report in the Send Messages section or it isn't supposed to be there?

[The General]

The sub physics in SH4 are not very realistic. You guys must've seen where your Sub seems to levitiate through rough seas, resulting in the bow and stern sticking out either end of a wave , propellors churning through fresh air and the bow planes acting like wings? It has even been known for the Sub to be completely clear of the water on occasion. I know that GWX really improved the physics of the Sub in SH3 and I wish someone would do the same for 4. I'd also like to see bigger waves. The photos on that Beaufort Scale of a 'Sea State 12' showed the waves dwarfing a modern day Oil Tanker. Huge! That's what I wanna see, the sea!

[DarkFolle]

is it normal that when i fire a torpedo to the left side of a ship i don't sink the ship?
Is it normal that the Pazific Ozean is so muddy and unclean?
Is it normal that the reload torpedo pages look like a Bar-videogame screen?
Is it normal that the Fuel and Battery and CO2 status bar are so Arcade-Like? IN A SO CALLED SUB SIMULATION??
Is it normal that i don't even feel to be in a sub nor to be a Commander of a Sub of World War II but i feel to be in the worst bar playing a game for boring time?
Is it normal that crew management become so complicated from the great SH3?
Is it normal they released a game so buggy and don't even try to release fixes? I mean, Look at Armed Assault, this game is great, more than this Arcade Style Sub-(so called)Sim for sure..ArmA is so bugged u can't believe but BiS supports it every month with some new Fix..these are my best 60 EURO spent ever...i would pick my Deluxe Copy of SH4 and place it in my Can, if i didn't collected games..
is it normal that i played this game 2 hrs and i felt so urgently to uninstall it?
Is it normal that i loved SH3 just because of mods, and w/out em, i would never played that game for thousand of hrs? millions of hrs?
Is it normal that a game must be modded to be playable??????
Is it normal that a mod has to make the game playable instead of only improve it?
Is it normal that modders have to make fixes to the game with their own mods????
Is it normal that i have to write so much complaints?


and last...

Is it Normal that U have to Make Our subs so Rusty????? WHY??????

:hmm:





:down:

[Elder-Pirate]

is it normal that when i fire a torpedo to the left side of a ship i don't sink the ship?
Is it normal that the Pazific Ozean is so muddy and unclean?
Is it normal that the reload torpedo pages look like a Bar-videogame screen?
Is it normal that the Fuel and Battery and CO2 status bar are so Arcade-Like? IN A SO CALLED SUB SIMULATION??
Is it normal that i don't even feel to be in a sub nor to be a Commander of a Sub of World War II but i feel to be in the worst bar playing a game for boring time?
Is it normal that crew management become so complicated from the great SH3?
Is it normal they released a game so buggy and don't even try to release fixes? I mean, Look at Armed Assault, this game is great, more than this Arcade Style Sub-(so called)Sim for sure..ArmA is so bugged u can't believe but BiS supports it every month with some new Fix..these are my best 60 EURO spent ever...i would pick my Deluxe Copy of SH4 and place it in my Can, if i didn't collected games..
is it normal that i played this game 2 hrs and i felt so urgently to uninstall it?
Is it normal that i loved SH3 just because of mods, and w/out em, i would never played that game for thousand of hrs? millions of hrs?
Is it normal that a game must be modded to be playable??????
Is it normal that a mod has to make the game playable instead of only improve it?
Is it normal that modders have to make fixes to the game with their own mods????
Is it normal that i have to write so much complaints?


and last...

Is it Normal that U have to Make Our subs so Rusty????? WHY??????

:hmm:





:down:



Is it normal for you to complain? :huh: Is it normal for you to want things perfect? :roll: Is it normal for you to not d/l and use mods? :doh: Is it normal for you not to wait on patch 1.3? :hmm: Is it normal for you to be so bored? :-? Is it normal for you to maybe not set up your computer right for the Sim? :eek:



And last...

Is it normal for you to ask naive questions that have been answered over a hundred times somewhere on this forum?

[DarkFolle]

sorry, i only wanted to report things that are unacceptable from such a huge company that makes games..sorry really, but i don't have the time to read 100 pages of posts..so long bro, i love sub-sim games, and i love ur effort in makin mods for us all, i wasn't complaining against u, only to Ubi...feel free to delete but if someone can answer again those repeated questions, i will be glad and thankful

[Frank Smith]

v 1.2 started from clean install... Pearl Harbor to East China Sea, on patrol find convoy, report follow orders - attack destroy all. 6 ships 3 destroyers. minor damage. aft batteries, 2 forward torps tubes, radio, main pump, 1 bulk head.
surface -no problems. spend time to repair all items... radio last... report to PH on results. 4 torps left - 3 aft, 1 fwd. NO DAMGE, ALL REPAIRED. find convoy report- informed attack escorts . CAN NOT DIVE AT ALL ANY movement of depth gauge is INSTANT DRIVE TO BOTTOM. AND DAVEY JONES LOCKER...mods installed via generic mod enabler.
1. torps 2X,
2. more ammo,
3. ammo 1.1b,
4. .50 cal MG v1.1a.

[ReallyDedPoet]

v 1.2 started from clean install... Pearl Harbor to East China Sea, on patrol find convoy, report follow orders - attack destroy all. 6 ships 3 destroyers. minor damage. aft batteries, 2 forward torps tubes, radio, main pump, 1 bulk head.
surface -no problems. spend time to repair all items... radio last... report to PH on results. 4 torps left - 3 aft, 1 fwd. NO DAMGE, ALL REPAIRED. find convoy report- informed attack escorts . CAN NOT DIVE AT ALL ANY movement of depth gauge is INSTANT DRIVE TO BOTTOM. AND DAVEY JONES LOCKER...mods installed via generic mod enabler.
1. torps 2X,
2. more ammo,
3. ammo 1.1b,
4. .50 cal MG v1.1a.

I have had problems with the more ammo mod, actually the game would not load at all. May have been a conflict with another mod though:hmm:

RDP

[Frank Smith]

Thanks for the info.. I will remove the ammo mods then and see.
THANKS
Tested Clean install, did not play install v 1.2 patch. went to saved game. where there is not damage noted at all. 100% clean togo. installed Damage Analyzer II-04 check last game.. it also says 100% OK. only damage is minor to deck gun.
anything that says dive is DEATH..
THERE ARE NO MODS involved with this install.

Patch v1.2 is worthless...

[ReallyDedPoet]

Thanks for the info.. I will remove the ammo mods then and see.
THANKS
Tested Clean install, did not play install v 1.2 patch. went to saved game. where there is not damage noted at all. 100% clean togo. installed Damage Analyzer II-04 check last game.. it also says 100% OK. only damage is minor to deck gun.
anything that says dive is DEATH..
THERE ARE NO MODS involved with this install.

Patch v1.2 is worthless...

Sorry you did not get it worked out.

Maybe start a new thread in the SH4 threads. Something like " Need a little help " or something like that. You may have more folks take a look. I know you are frustrated, but the more civil you post, the better response you will get.

I have no problems with 1.2, but perhaps one of the other members here can offer you something.

RDP

[Frank Smith]

As long as I hunt very carefully, and get NO DAMAGE... I'm OK, but any damage which is more than heavy machine gun damage , seems to trigger some setting that will CRASH me on any movement from surface.. sample: like Clean install, v1.2 patch... resume saved game. NO DAMAGE, went hunting, took 1 shell into the conning tower.. during dive...= crush depth. next test damage showed 1 minor damage to Aft torp room.
most annoying... using Damage Analyzer II-04 to assess actual damage... even minor damage to deckgun = CRUSH depth .. needless to say I save very often..
Thanks for the help...

[ReallyDedPoet]

As long as I hunt very carefully, and get NO DAMAGE... I'm OK, but any damage which is more than heavy machine gun damage , seems to trigger some setting that will CRASH me on any movement from surface.. sample: like Clean install, v1.2 patch... resume saved game. NO DAMAGE, went hunting, took 1 shell into the conning tower.. during dive...= crush depth. next test damage showed 1 minor damage to Aft torp room.
most annoying... using Damage Analyzer II-04 to assess actual damage... even minor damage to deckgun = CRUSH depth .. needless to say I save very often..
Thanks for the help...

Check out ( have a look at the read-me ) Redwines " Die Slowly " mod, it addesses some of the this stuff. Not sure why I did not mention this before.

RDP

[Frank Smith]

Thanks for the info... have removed all the crush dive saved games...
went clean install - upgrade to v1.2 bypassed v1.1... restarted.
will look/find & dl and read "Die Slowly" . to see what it has...
Thanks again for the Info.

Snuffy The Ol Pirate

[Excalibur Bane]

I may have found out what causes the "uncontrollable" sinking. If you dive while your sub is cruising back (any speed setting I think, not sure) the dive planes flip out and lock up, hence the uncontrolled descent to a horrible, agonizing eye popping, head imploding death.

A bit of trouble reproducing the bug, sometimes it seems to happen, other times it doesn't. Strange. In any case, I would stay away from diving if your engines are set to back or throw them into ahead flank if you notice it happening and issue a new depth order, that fixes the problem.

[Frank Smith]

My crush dive has alwys been while moving fwd's , but max reverse might fix that...
I think it is simply a BUG in SH4.
Since I did a clean install of SH4, then directly to v 1.2, I have not had the CRUSH DIVE.. so I have found that (1.) Install SH4 (2) upgrade to 1.1 (3)upgrade to 1.2 is BAD NEWS... I have not found this problem with (1) Install SH4 (2) upgrade to v1.2... this means the problem is between v 1.1 and v 1.2.
working on other solutions also... testing a new NO CD patch for v 1.2.

[bosegato]

I have a strange issue reloading torpedoes, sometimes they reload, sometimes they don't at all. Auto reloading switch is activated, but makes no difference. Is this a bug or there is something else wrong ??? WTF, really annoying, only six torpedoes and then I have to start the mission anew...:damn::damn:

[Arclight]

If you're actually still using the 1.2 patch, update to 1.4, quickly! ;)

Welcome aboard. :up:

[elanaiba]

I have a strange issue reloading torpedoes, sometimes they reload, sometimes they don't at all. Auto reloading switch is activated, but makes no difference. Is this a bug or there is something else wrong ??? WTF, really annoying, only six torpedoes and then I have to start the mission anew...:damn::damn:

Are you "silent running" by any chance?

[Webster]

WOW! someone is still talking about v1.2 issues?

[bosegato]

I have a strange issue reloading torpedoes, sometimes they reload, sometimes they don't at all. Auto reloading switch is activated, but makes no difference. Is this a bug or there is something else wrong ??? WTF, really annoying, only six torpedoes and then I have to start the mission anew...:damn::damn:
Are you "silent running" by any chance?

Yes I was. I found out by myself that the problem was caused by being in silent running. Since reloading is a noisy work, it is not performed while in silent running. I should have figured it out before. However, thank you for the reply.

:rock:

[SteamWake]

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh312/UlteriorModem/holy_necroposting_batman.jpg

[robj250]

I've look but I cannot find what the size of a photo "snap" I took of my problem and I want to post it.

Can someone tell me what size I should make it?

Rob

[peabody]

I've look but I cannot find what the size of a photo "snap" I took of my problem and I want to post it.

Can someone tell me what size I should make it?

Rob

I usually resize images for posting to about 500 pixels, usually large enough to see what I am trying to show.
But the first thing should do, is start a "New Topic" to post your 'problem', this thread is bugs from version 1.2 and is three years old. Not very many people are going to read it.
If you are using 1.2, then you definately need to visit Ubi and get version 1.4 or buy version 1.5 (uboat addon).

Peabody