Das Boot plays Silent Hunter 4 - Episodes 1 & 2 (working!)

[Kapitan_Phillips]

YouTube links - Confirmed Working! Enjoy!

Episode One - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EM4EN5OlxQ
Episode Two - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCftAR3xVd4


Thank you ALL for your patience and your kind words (for those who saw the videos). Stay tuned for Episode Three!!

[squigian]

You sure? Says the videos are unavailable.

[Crinius]

When I click Epsisode 2 I got "no Data available"?

[Mud]

Sorry mate but video not available message for me.

Mud

[Kapitan_Phillips]

I'm really irritated now. Let me re-upload video 2.

[squigian]

IT'S WORKING! Now.

[Crinius]

IT'S WORKING! Now.

Sorry mate but Episode 2 is not there!

[Kapitan_Phillips]

IT'S WORKING! Now.
Sorry mate but Episode 2 is not there!

I deleted it and am re-uploading :yep:

I swear, if I wasnt listening to "Hand Jive" by George Thorogood, I'd be going psycho right now.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Okay, I just re-uploaded Episode 2 - should be availiable in a few minutes.

[Crinius]

I still get error message on Episode 2 :hmm:

[acid001]

both working on my set

[Kapitan_Phillips]

It is indeed working now guys, enjoy :)

[JRT]

Oh my friggin' @#*&!*##!.......
Two is too funny!
MORE!


Jeff

[Marko_Ramius]

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I love this :up:

Can't wait for other ones :)

[JDHartman]

may i suggest Youtube.com please..takes too long to load this veoh.

But good job Kapitan_Phillips!! Two really got me right at the end there:D

[Onkel Neal]

Very entertaining, can't wait for Episode 3 :yep:

[The General]

Absolutely bloody brilliant! You've captured the mood perfectly. I think you have talent my friend.

:up:

As far as I'm concerned whoever's responsible (be it Ubi or the Devs themselves) for another sequel badly marred by bugs should be fired. I mean come on, I can forgive the mistakes made on SH3, it was revolutionary, but to make the same mistakes twice, that's just sloppy.

[rdhiggins]

Very Funny! :rotfl: :rotfl:

[GoldenEagle8]

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Thats good!

I needed a good laugh!

[UBootMann]

Ditto. Can't wait for more. Definitely a keen sense of well tuned satire:know:, keep 'em comin':rotfl:

[fausterwwii]

Brutal! Keep up the great work. Now. I'm off to watch Das Boot again. :up:

[joea]

BRILLIANT AND OH SO FUNNY. :rock:

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Wow! Front page! I'm honoured!! :rock::rock::rock::rock::rock:

[gabeeg]

An instant forum classic....Thanks for the laugh!

[Shipwreck]

u go girl :rock: , great work.

SW

[Roads88]

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: You hit the nail on the head.:rock:

[Jeffg]

I hate to say it but right now thats what its all about.But we have to remember SH3 and we have great mods now that makes the sim great.I know that SH4 will
get that way down the road.
Jeff

[oritpro]

Hilarious!

[JSF]

I agree.....SH4 runs like ****!

[TwistedAdonis]

You are a funny guy.

Nice work.:up:

[nvdrifter]

Funny as hell. :rotfl:I have to admit, regarding SH4, part 2 is oh so true.

[codeseven]

Friggin hilarious man!

[Syxx_Killer]

ROFL hahaha That's great! Look forward to more!:rotfl::rotfl:

[XanderF]

But they'll patch that!

ROFLMAO.

Oh, yes, this is comedy gold.

(Wow, forgot about some of those scenes, though. Amazing the wife liked the movie, now that I think about it. Yup, original, uncut, 293 minute version. Hmmm...I think she's a keeper. :up: )

[GuillermoZS]

"That´s Tomsen. Ordered the deluxe edition"
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Simply brilliant :up:

[nikimcbee]

"That´s Tomsen. Ordered the deluxe edition"


Simply brilliant :up:


Wait, that's not funny:damn: .
Instead of the "a" key bug thing, you could have the alternate ending.:hmm: :shifty:

The boat is bombed by the plane...:dead:
The crew valiantly repairs the boat...:()1:
Everything in the boat is fixed...:ahoy:
You go to periscope depth, only to have your boat sink 900 feet in seconds, ending your career...:down: :lost:

[Cmdr Mathias]

I have had a few problems, but the sim is good. I'm guessing that my torpedoes are working better in '42 than they actually did.

Four patrols, starting my fifth...157K tonnage...alive...100% realism (would not have it any other way).

I've had two bad torps. Things happen if you do not take care....like Battle Stations...or return to the watch.

Be Careful....I mean it.:stare:

DGS:shifty:

Brad

(Don't get sunk)


Absolutely bloody brilliant! You've captured the mood perfectly. I think you have talent my friend.

:up:

As far as I'm concerned whoever's responsible (be it Ubi or the Devs themselves) for another sequel badly marred by bugs should be fired. I mean come on, I can forgive the mistakes made on SH3, it was revolutionary, but to make the same mi
stakes twice, that's just sloppy.

[livewire68]

Needed a good laugh!!:up:
Very well done. Thanks:D

[Skweetis]

"That's Thomsen, he ordered the Deluxe Edition!"

I nearly died, I never laughed so hard! Great job man!

[robert4260]

Thank you Herr. Kapitan Phillips: Probably the best laugh I have in a while, also very true. Let us know if you produce some more. I am really going to have to see that movie.

:rotfl:

[SleazeyWombat]

:down: Neither one is available.

[flintlock]

They may be getting pulled because of copyright infringement.

[Ghostieguide]

Put it up on Youtube,:-? much more reliable... Very funny nicely done :rotfl::rotfl:

[rizZO_77]

My browser says the video's are both unavailable.

[Aimbot]

Youtube.

Or winzip.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Right, I've had it. I'm going to make the third and final one, then merge them, then put them on YouTube with my name on it, so some ass doesnt steal it.

Stay tuned for a suprise ending!

[DJSatane]

video is unavailable...

[Driftwood]

No joy. :cry:

[JRT]

Right, I've had it. I'm going to make the third and final one, then merge them, then put them on YouTube with my name on it, so some ass doesnt steal it.

Stay tuned for a suprise ending!


SWEET!
Cant' wait!



Jeff

[Snakeeyes]

Not working for me.

[flintlock]

Not working for me.

lol, does nobody read the posts within the thread?

[Deep Source]

Not work use youtube.com or in zip file. Please!

[flintlock]

Apparently they don't (read, that is).

[JRT]

Apparently they don't (read, that is).

HEHEHEHE.....
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c264/CODY614/mousequietshhlgnwm6by.gif






Jeff

[Safe-Keeper]

There are so many scenes in Das Boot that can be turned into good SH4 discussions. Will be interesting to see what you make of it.

[wingtip]

veoh probably saw the name das boot and assumed your posting the movie which is copywrited... just name the file something totally off the wall stupid and re post it and it'll stay up longer...

veoh is still great since you can upload any file size you want and is downloadable unlike youtube.

[Elder-Pirate]

AHH come on Kapitan Phillips I'm dying here waiting on this film. AAAHHhhh the agony of it all. :damn:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/oleman/walkingskeleton1.gif


:rotfl: :rotfl:

[Kapitan_Phillips]

veoh probably saw the name das boot and assumed your posting the movie which is copywrited... just name the file something totally off the wall stupid and re post it and it'll stay up longer...

veoh is still great since you can upload any file size you want and is downloadable unlike youtube.

Right I'm going to try that. Stay with me :P

[Kapitan_Phillips]

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[flyingdane]

Bummer nice try anyways. ;)

[Kapitan_Phillips]

I'm YouTubeing them as we speak.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

The videos are now YouTubed and awaiting your clickage!!

[theluckyone17]

Not currently working for me...

[JRT]

The videos are now YouTubed and awaiting your clickage!!
Ummmmmm......Can we have a link or 2?........Please?



Jeff

[Kapitan_Phillips]

The videos are now YouTubed and awaiting your clickage!! Ummmmmm......Can we have a link or 2?........Please?



Jeff

Check the first post of this thread ;)

[JRT]

The videos are now YouTubed and awaiting your clickage!! Ummmmmm......Can we have a link or 2?........Please?



Jeff
Check the first post of this thread ;)
DOH!
Sorry!



Jeff

[RickC Sniper]

One works, but two is no joy here.

[squigian]

Why not put them in a torrent? We can download and watch them and you can't get caught.

[Skweetis]

torrents aren't anonymous like peer to peer software.


BitTorrent does not offer its users anonymity. It is possible to obtain the IP addresses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address) of all current, and possibly previous, participants in a swarm from the tracker. This may expose users with insecure systems to attacks.[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent#_note-Tamilmanistudy)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent

[NefariousKoel]

YouTube is working great! I'd give this production 3 thumbs up if I were inbred. :up:

[catar M]

You my hero..that is simply gold. btw part 2 isn't working for me video unavailable .do you have any other links for part 2?

[flintlock]

Classic stuff, KP! :)

[Waterboy]

Great stuff. I'm getting a "video not available" tag as well on the second one - The first is a classic. :up:

[Tom Custer]

:lol: Thought part #1 was very funny indeed.But,I couldn't get part #2.Too bad I bet was just as funny.Great work guys.:lol: :lol:

[NefariousKoel]

They're both working fine for me with Firefox. You using IE7 or something people? :lol:

[flintlock]

They're both working fine for me with Firefox. You using IE7 or something people? :lol: They're both working now, yes. A little earlier the 2nd one wasn't available for some reason.

Firefox on the PC, Opera on the mobile and Safari on the Mac.

Diversity. :)

[Waterboy]

It's working now. Firefox and Safari on the iMac. :up:

[hachiman]

Very good.
I take it the idea came from the piss take of FSX on youtube called the Untersim?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcW3hbnR2EI

[Jeff Bulmer]

just watched the first two episodes....good stuff, well done! LOL.

[Frenssen]

Really cool movie. The scene in the officers mess is fantastic:rotfl:

[Crinius]

Hillarious:rotfl::rock::up:

[rizZO_77]

Done a thousand times before but i guess it's kinda funny...

[Snakeeyes]

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:: rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: ROFL!

Just.... PERFECT!

[mimik]

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:: rotfl::rotfl:

these videos cracked me up.. can't wait for more!... :rock:

[difool2]

If you guys really like them you should vote the score up over at Youtube; clip #2
right now is rated at 1 star, with 1 rating...

[cdragon]

LMLLAO!!!
= laughed my land-lubber's a** off.

Brilliant.

Thanks.

[Ayari]

:lol:

Good stuff, good times:up:

[sunvalleyslim]

:up: :up: :up: LOLs......outstanding my man.........

[kakemann]

Funny! :D

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Thank you all for your kind words :)

[theluckyone17]

Now it works for me. Before, Youtube just couldn't find it. Now it can.

And it was awesome! :up: :rock:

[bruschi sauro]

YouTube links - Confirmed Working! Enjoy!

Episode One - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EM4EN5OlxQ
Episode Two - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCftAR3xVd4


Thank you ALL for your patience and your kind words (for those who saw the videos). Stay tuned for Episode Three!!
Is yhe truth, the game is buggy, The name for this game is: SILENT HUNTER IV:
BUGS OF THE PACIFIC...:rotfl: :damn:

[lord bame]

hehe :D awsome :up:

[PAW]

sitting in the uni library trying to stop myself laughing out loud. Love the first one.

[SteveW1]

Your a Master thats all I can say

Loved both of them :yep:

[nikbear]

Brilliant,thats set me up for the day,Hilarious:up: :p :D :rotfl:

[Dowly]

Hehe, great ones. :rotfl:

[Cobber]

Absolutely loved them. A credit to the responsible SubSimmers.:up: :up: :up: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Also took the opportunity to watch Neals 100% realism attack, excellent!:up: :up: :up:

[bruschi sauro]

UBI BRING OUT THE PATCH/ES:shifty:
I'AM TIRED OF WAITING....:dead:

[SteamWake]

UBI BRING OUT THE PATCH/ES:shifty:
I'AM TIRED OF WAITING....:dead:

? :hmm:

[bruschi sauro]

UBI BRING OUT THE PATCH/ES:shifty:
I'AM TIRED OF WAITING....:dead:

? :hmm:
please i want the patch.:-? is impossible play this game :nope:

[USS_shipmaster]

Perfect satire work !I was laughing like crazy! Redirect it to UBISOFT Mother's Friends

[SteamWake]

"He's a Game Reviewer".....

"He plays Silent Hunter 4"....

<Smirk>

The smirk on the 2WO's face is priceless.

[SteamWake]

UBI BRING OUT THE PATCH/ES:shifty:
I'AM TIRED OF WAITING....:dead:

? :hmm:
please i want the patch.:-? is impossible play this game :nope:

then post in the threads about the patch please thanks

[letterboy1]

Good stuff. Looking forward to more. :D

[Sulikate]

:rotfl:
Nice stuff! Thanks mate:arrgh!:

[BellJack95]

Both episodes were hilarious! Good Job. Standing by for the next one. I wonder if the next one will be titled..."Episode 3: Revenge of the UBISoft"....

[Stary Wuj]

Great job !!!
Very well put indeed :D

:rotfl:

Best Regards

Stary Wuj

[robbierob2005]

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[badaboom]

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Fantastic!!!!!!!!I'm laughing so hard my sides hurt!!!!!!:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: "They say the DAMAGE CONTROL DOES'NT WORK"BRILLIANT ABSOULUTELY BRILLIANT!!!!

[Cajun5]

:down: :down: :down: It looks like you have hit the nail on the head.Good show!!! Keep um coming!!!

[RedHammer]

"Thats Thomsen, he ordered the Deluxe Edition." Simply Brilliant!

Perfectly done xD


And now, those who claim subsim is on the dev`s side, can leave the moderators alone here? :-?

S! to all


RH

[Monica Lewinsky]

I laughed so hard, that my sides hurt so bad at this line:

"That's so and so, he WAS sober BEFORE he played the game." :up:

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Laughed so hard my head hurt! :rock: :rock: :rock:

Can't wait for episode 3.

[LukeFF]

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

The text is synched with the voice acting perfectly!

[indistinguishable german ranting]

:D

[Trip]

Superb :) Looking forward to ep.3

Trip

[Roads88]

I have been watching these everyday since they came out. Still makes me giggle.:cool:

[MRV]

"GWX!"



"Gimme that ****!"



:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[Deep Source]

Very Good!

Thomsen is a great man!:rock::rock::rock::rock:

[Crow]

OMFG

the wife actually came down to see if I was ok cuz I was laughing so hard

I neerly soiled myself : it was either the movie or the booze

ENCORE ENCORE :rock: :rock:

[Shigawire]

"That's Thomsen, he ordered the Deluxe Edition!"

I nearly died, I never laughed so hard! Great job man!

I ditto that.. :rotfl:And I have the Deluxe Edition! :arrgh!:

[Nikita]

FANTASTIC!
:rotfl::rock:

[ddwayne]

Great job :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rock:

[Jimbuna]

Excellent :rock: :up:

[tonyeh]

Richard...that was feckin' gas. Thanks for that.


Tony

[bruschi sauro]

"That's Thomsen, he ordered the Deluxe Edition!"

I nearly died, I never laughed so hard! Great job man!

I ditto that.. :rotfl:And I have the Deluxe Edition! :arrgh!:
BELLINO:rotfl: NOI SI RIDE MA E' VERO TUTTO QUELLO CHE DICONO,,:damn:

[Klaus_Doldinger]

Absolutely real. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

The damned chronometer simply doesn´t work.

What a damned junk SHIV is.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

"Just don't use it when Bernard is around!!" (something like that)

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

I actually returned SH4 because it was so buggy. Good thing I had an excuse for returning it.

[Kant Schwimm]

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Episode 2...

"thats my bunk..its 3d" rolf spat beer everywhere....:rotfl: :rotfl:


great work mate:up:

[XXi]

Captain Philipps, congratulations :D This movie made my day. And besides, it helped me a lot to make a decision to wait some more time before buying SH4.
Great and thanks !

[robbo180265]

Pure genious Kapitan Phillips well done:up:

Might I suggest posting a link to this thread in the SHIII forum? I would but I don't want to steal your thunder;)

[Dantenoc]

Funny stuff :up:

[shadow701]

Too funny, I almost fell out of my chair laughing. :rotfl: :rotfl:

"This is the can. Look how this area is rendered despite it's seeming uselessness...


just don't use it when Bernard's around."

[Florida Sailor]

I brougt it up in a hotel room and I'm sure the folks next door wondered what the fool in my room was cackling about. When he said " I snapped the disk", I fell on the floor.

I love it, I hate it, but I keep on playing it. It crashes so often I have started wearing a helmet.

[stabiz]

My dear Kapitan, I often use lol or this thing: :rotfl:in here, but this is the first time I have really LAUGHED OUT LOUD!

LOL!

Ace stuff!:rotfl:

[CastleBravo]

very creative and funny!!!:up:

Thank you bud!

[Akula4745]

Wow... very cool movies. It is obvious a lot of work went into them. My thanks for sharing them, Kapitan Phillips.

While watching these I also came across this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8pN9R12dc

[Highbury]

Now that was a heck of a bump, but thank you for reminding me of these.. I enjoyed them again.

[Rip]

So how is Episode 3 coming along?

:gulp:

[Pisces]

Wow... very cool movies. It is obvious a lot of work went into them. My thanks for sharing them, Kapitan Phillips.

While watching these I also came across this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8pN9R12dc:har: That one was awesome.

Now, if I only knew which movie title that was, and I could speak Russian. :(

[talesofvalor]

Really great!
I can't wait for Episode 3.:yeah:

[Rockin Robbins]

http://www.u47.org/images/kriegsmarine/kriegsmarine_poster_2.jpg Really NOT great.

Silent Hunter should not be about playing Nazi wannabe. There is nothing glorious, nothing valorous about being a member of the Kriegsmarine, ESPECIALLY that flag, personally designed by Adolf Hitler as an emblem of brute force, intimidation and violence, directed first at his "own" people and then at the world.

Real German U-Boat veterans are completely at odds with the wannabes around here in condemning the Nazi cause and denying that in any way they were heroes, valorous, glamorous, admirable or anything but shills for a despicable cause. Why would we dishonor the wishes of those who fought and seek to make heroes of them and then play the part ourselves. It's disgusting.:down:

This is not an attack on SH3 or the U-Boat side of SH4, as any who know me don't need to be told. It is strictly about those who treat Naziism as a Star Trek opportunity to dress up in the uniform, portray themselves as the characters, affect the mannerisms and language, actually pretending to become the object of their admiration. Spock? Questionable but harmless. Affecting the above icon? Disgusting. At least it is condoning thuggery, at most it is perverting history by portraying Nazis as people who petted their cats, hugged their wives, loved "Little House on the Prairie" and just looked cool.

Talent and ability, good judgment and courage in service of evil is no heroism and deserves no admiration any more than Jeffrey Dahmer deserves admiration for the skillful way he could carve a corpse.

[utops]

Gimme a break.
Real nazis was from SS mostly, not mentioning that part of officer crew who share ideology with fuhrer,but they are belong to SS again also NSDAP.
Personally my look on Kreigsmarine is simple - It is a usual navy service on the wrong side of the force and i think that many people share my point of view, even this one who in your eyes looks like nazi wannabe.
:sunny:

[Rockin Robbins]

That ain't a shamrock or a care bear on his flag there. Stuff means stuff.

A man I respect very much will have nothing to do with Subsim because a few pretend goosesteppers trot around siggy pictures like the guy above and
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/RockinRobbins13/Silent%20Hunter%204/NaziSig.jpg
this piece of human debris (actual siggy pic from Subsim). check that out. Ain't he handsome. See his cute girlfriend or wife or whatever, all in service to his magnificent Fuhrer? Obviously he pets his cat, hugs his woman, is harmless as a fly as he kills people to support mass murderers who put my friend's entire family to deaths worse than dogs in the Ukraine. Heck, they only killed 10 million Jews and assorted others in their death camps. What is there to get upset about.

Smile like handsome old Klaus up there and think about petting your cat and hugging your woman as you pretend your life is worth more, somehow, than those you who are being murdered by the cause you so nobly fight for. I'll bet Ted Bundy loved his dog too. Shoulda let him go and idolized him too,eh? Perhaps we could make a video game about his heroic exploits.

[Stealhead]

You know as well as I that some members of the Kriegsmarine where Nazi or Nazi supporting to think other wise is not facing reality.I am not trying to disrespect the good Germans but also realize that they where fighting for the side whose leadership was Nazi so by fighting they where supporting its causes either directly or indirectly. Again I am not trying disrespect Germans I was stationed there for several years and of German orgin myself. When you serve in a nations military you are in support of that nations modis operandi.The SS was very had to get into for much of the war so there where many who wished to join and agreed with its views but where barred form membership but still very much agreed with thier goals.

[Rockin Robbins]

Germans are much less tolerant of this malarkey than I am. They would not permit that flag to be displayed in their country or used in a video game sold in their country. The actual U-Boat sailors, almost to a man, savagely fight any notions that they are somehow heroes, as they know that the cause they fought for made any heroism impossible. No, Germans are much less prone to Nazi worship than others, especially Americans.

German citizens were Naziism's worst victims. We don't need to lecture Germans. We need to lecture strangely misguided and perverse Americans most of all.

[razark]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/RockinRobbins13/Silent%20Hunter%204/Scores/Cruise14BattleFlag_USSKraken_Rockin.jpg

And what of this sig picture?

The owner of it obviously is proudly boasting of killing Japanese. He's supporting the mass murder of innocent sailors. He probably wants to drop even more nuclear weapons on them. Because of his display, I must assume that he supports the machine-gunning of survivors in lifeboats.

Either that, or he's proudly displaying the emblem of a warmongering nation that perpetrated a cowardly attack without declaring war, tried to conquer the entire Pacific region, and committed war crimes everywhere they went.

Which is it?


Or maybe we're just displaying images that add a bit of color and immersion to our submarine simulation playing personae? I seriously doubt there are many here who play SH3 just so they can be "playing Nazi wannabe." I'm willing to take a bet that you don't spend your free time running around screaming "Kill the Japs!" and trying to kill any Asian fellows you come across.

Frankly those wars ended quite a long time ago. While there are some that cling to a dead, worthless ideology, their time is past. The longer we treat these symbols as "evil", and ban them, the longer they will hold their power. Treat them as mere symbols, and they will loose that power.

Now, If talesofvalor was posting on a Jewish forum using that signature, I would agree that it was inappropriate. But he's not. He's posting on a message board for people playing a WWII German subsim. The swastika was used by those who manned the u-boats. Not everyone who manned the boats was serving just so they could be good little Nazis for their beloved Adolf. Some probably did. I'm sure many did because they saw it as a way to defend their country from their enemies. Some may have joined because of a family tradition.

As for "German citizens were Naziism's worst victims", I can think of about 12 million people who might disagree with you.

Razark

[Buddahaid]

Please let's not start another war here. If I'm playing an historic simulation, I don't want the images censored for my protection. If I'm building a model of an Bf109, I don't want an iron cross replacing all the swastikas on the decal sheet. If I'm making a model of a crusader, should I use a happy face instead of a red cross? I usually find these things rather silly since I know what's missing and am not fooled. Anyone who plays SH2 or 3 knows what was in the white circle, and if that offends them, they should not play and probably don't.

History should NEVER be edited or glossed over. It should be shown in all of it's beauty and ugliness, splendor and depravity. Otherwise it becomes mere propaganda for someones agenda.

Buddahaid

[Armistead]

Please let's not start another war here. If I'm playing an historic simulation, I don't want the images censored for my protection. If I'm building a model of an Bf109, I don't want an iron cross replacing all the swastikas on the decal sheet. If I'm making a model of a crusader, should I use a happy face instead of a red cross? I usually find these things rather silly since I know what's missing and am not fooled. Anyone who plays SH2 or 3 knows what was in the white circle, and if that offends them, they should not play and probably don't.

History should NEVER be edited or glossed over. It should be shown in all of it's beauty and ugliness, splendor and depravity. Otherwise it becomes mere propaganda for someones agenda.

Buddahaid

Well said.....from a Civil War Re-enactor from the South. They're people that don't need the facts glossed over and know stupidity from reality.

Plus, we always show up for the Civil War movies. I loved dying 4 times in Gettysburg.

[Stealhead]

RockinRobbins is right the Germans that I knew in the 5 years that I was stationed over there do not tolerate such a thing.Rockinrobbins is not talking about glossing over history rather the strange pick and choose glorifiaction of it.there is nothing to admire about any of the WWII era Nazis or thier military. do not forget that if you are an american or a brit their goal was to kill you. They likey tried to kill your father or grand father.
Hell my Great uncle a 1st born german american was taken POW by a regular German army unit the "good" guys he over heard them speaking in german planning on killing my unlce and the other americans my uncle told the others and they made a break it for only he and one other made back to the allied lines and those where not SS or these where the so called "good" guys.

And after the Jews and other "un wanted" the germans where the biggest victim of the Nazis.


For the record you cant display anything Nazi related in public in germany but they are very well educated in school about what thier nation did in WWII. Unlike some other nations.
I also fail to see how anyone could get an idea from seeing RockinRobbins battle flag that he is promoting killing japanese in life boats the real USS Barbs flag is equaly agressive and Fluckley frowned on killing japanese who wished to surrender or any un-needed killing of Japanese as did belive or not many skippers.the diffrence with the two flags is this the Nazi flag directly stands for something no mistakes about it. An ameraicn kill flag says only one thing directly this is how many japanese vessels that we have sunk. Does it show a buck tooth slant eyed "jap" no.Nazism is a seed that gets planted and honestly even if you display a sig with the Nazi flag or nazi embles in it and mean nothing supportive someone who does will see it and the idea gets out and it simply spreads the diease around and there is planety of disgusting Neo-Nazi redric spreading around as we speak.
You guys are flipping Rockinrobbins dislike of this type of sig into a pile of crap.

[Rockin Robbins]

Razark knows that. He knows that he is just saying that the victims of evil have some kind of moral obligation to die willingly without fighting back. It is the old Mahatma Gandhi stupidity all over again. The aggressors call the tune. Their victims MUST dance, and dance BETTER than those who would victimize them.

Razark knows that the United States and Britain did NOT attempt to take over the entire Pacific region. He knows that the US and Britain did not commit war crimes everywhere they went. No Japanese prisoners were starved, worked to death, beaten, gassed, denied basic medical treatment or used as human shields. He knows that Japan and Germany are today not colonies of the United States, but through the free will of the United States, stand as free, independent nations, not needing to apologize to anybody. Who could be prouder of any nation on earth but Germany in the way she handled reunification with East Germany at great cost to the much more prosperous West Germans. After the war the Japanese, seeing the treatment received by the US, freely admitted that they were beaten by a morally superior people, that they would not have treated their vanquished foes with any such respect. Heck, they DIDN'T. They enslaved their victims, killing them by the hundreds of thousands during the war. The Japanese are a much different, a much stronger and better people today because they lost World War II.

Razark knows that a country attacked has the right to react with or without a declaration of war, that the right of self defense is central to and necessary to obain and retain freedom. Denying that right is the necessary first step toward totalitarianism wherever it raises its ugly, evil head.

Yes, it's the old "moral equivalency of the victim who fought back" lie, knowingly said with a sneer. It is what kept France and Britain from calling Hitler's game to an early end in the 1930's, that they bought similar lies, "if you use force to stop Germany now, you are as evil as you say Mr Hitler is." After all, he made Germany a "great" country. Who can deny his trains run on time. He pets many cats and does not pull his dog's ears like some American leaders will.

Razark knows that the stories of machine gunning lifeboat survivors have been disproved over and over again, he knows that sailors crewing merchant ships bringing stolen oil to Japan to fuel Japanese war planes, tanks, ships, land vehicles are not innocent, he knows that the United States did not enter the war from choice, but only when forced to by an attack from Japan and a declaration of war by Hitler. But truth is not necessary when making these arguments. Only the silence of those who know better, their silent assent to the lie is needed.

If talesofvalor was posting on a Jewish forum using that signature, I would agree that it was inappropriate.Subsim IS a Jewish group, and a Catholic group, and a Ukranian group, a Russian group, a Polish group, a Norweigan (spell check isn't screaming on that one, but...) group, a French group, a German group. The word "if" need not be said, but Razark's conclusion "it was inappropriate" is all that needs to be said. Here is the strongest proponent of evil so far granting the truth of my opinion. Surely I don't need to say any more what he so clearly admits.

[Akula4745]

Please let's not start another war here. If I'm playing an historic simulation, I don't want the images censored for my protection. Anyone who plays SH2 or 3 knows what was in the white circle, and if that offends them, they should not play and probably don't.

Well said, Mr. Buddahaid... but what I don't get about this whole string is that one of the most primary recurring topics is "immersion into the moment.. into the game" - and after all it is a Uboat sim (originally anyway) - and Uboats were fielded by the Germans... yes, Nazi Germany during the war years. Isn't the use of sigs merely a way to gain further immersion into the game? Is my sig offensive to any Japanese players? If I play the Uboat missions and change my sig will that mean I have become a proponent of the Nazi philosophy? No.

Personally, my opinion would be to live and let live, gentlemen... it is just a computer game... and from my perspective the sig image one carries is simply for greater immersion into the game, and not some perverse fantasy about elitism or eliminating other races.

I mean no disrespect to anyone who lost loved ones during the war years. History can never be changed and hurt sometimes never completely goes away.

[Rockin Robbins]

I am not asking that we not show disrespect.

I ask that we show RESPECT for the opinions of those Germans who fought in the U-Boats, of those Germans who live in that great country today and let them establish proper attitudes toward the situation. U-Boat sailors savagely refute all claims that they were heroes. Their attitudes are markedly different than ours here at Subsim. They would not give us the time of day. We would deeply offend them by seeking to diminish the importance of the evil cause they fought for.

I ask that we respect the judgment of the German people, who do not allow display of the swastika in the manner we do at Subsim. Who is more qualified than they to determine what is appropriate? They have registered their opinion clearly. We should follow that.

There is a period of time beyond which it no longer matters if we cavort under banners emblazoned with swastikas. That will be after there are no longer neo-Nazi groups of a couple thousand people demonstrating across from the White House lawn. It will be after similar minded idiots are no longer shooting guards at a Jewish Holocaust museum. It will be after neo-Nazi groups in Germany are no longer. These people are deadly serious about killing every Jew and killing or subjugating any non-Aryan on the face of the earth.

The example of American Civil War reenactors is very appropriate. There are no guerrilla bands lurking in the swamp with stars and bars attacking surrounding towns and killing travelers on roads to inspire a new Confederate rebellion. Racial bigots stand discredited and looking foolish. Just as with the British and Americans who fought each other during the American revolution, our deeper ties have completely extinguished past animosity. We can now appropriately adopt "historical realism" without rancor.

That time is not here for the Nazis of World War II. The German people themselves testify to that. A poor dead guard at a museum testifies to that. Until their attitudes and positions are exterminated, adopting their symbols and roleplaying their people is not appropriate. There is a line that we need not and must not cross.

[razark]

There may not be people still fighting under the Confederate flag, but it is still waved at KKK rallies. You are asking a lot for a time when there will be no more Neo-Nazi groups, no more white power skinheads, no more hate based on race or skin color. I doubt we will ever see such a time.

But the more we fear and ban these symbols, the more power we give to them. Used in context, they are one thing. Used outside that context, they are quite another.

Civil War re-enactors using a Confederate flag is very much different from that same flag being waved by a KKK member. Displaying a Kriegsmarine recruiting poster is very far away from walking into the museum and opening fire.

The context here is a simulation of a nation's navy during a specific time period. The flag of that navy is a part of that history, and some feel that it adds immersion to their activities, in the same way the Confederate flag does at a Civil War activity. I'm sure the Civil War re-enactors aren't really trying to seceede from the Union, or own slaves; the SH3 players are also not playing to support their political views.

Razark

[Rockin Robbins]

Well, you hit on an excellent point. I don't have any problem with having a model of the Bismark with the swastika on deck, either in a plastic model or in the game. I DO have a problem with assuming the persona of a Nazi by affecting a signature picture of a smiling upright U-Boat captain under the swastika flag. I'm sure you can understand the difference while you pretend not to comprehend.

When people attend the Star Trek convention, wear painful pointy ear prostheses, give the split finger Vulcan greeting and speak in their best Spock voice, they are being harmless role-players. If they were to do the same wearing an SS uniform, carrying Nazi banners and flags, yelling "Heil Hitler" and demanding the murder of Jews, they'd be neo-Nazi kooks having a rally across from the White House. That's not so harmless.

If the actual U-Boat sailors regard themselves as ex-Nazis who performed acts worthy of contempt (and they almost unanimously do), I honor those men and regard their role as they do. I acknowledge that they performed their functions well, I admire their skill and daring, I play SH3 and the U-Boat in SH4 with a lot of enjoyment. But I'm not role-playing as a man with the ideology and symbolism the real sailors had. I play strictly from a fascination with the equipment and military situations they found themselves in.

If actual Germans regard display of Nazi emblems in a personal manner an offensive act and think it improper to allow such, I honor those people and comply. I think they would even go further than I do and would not permit you to own a plastic model of the Bismark bearing the historically accurate swastika. If I lived in Germany I would honor that law and my model of the Bismark would have a flag with a care bear or perhaps a wolf paw in the middle of the circle.:D

[razark]

And I don't have a problem with someone posting a sig picture, in the context of a WWII subsim discussion forum. If they start posting "in character", then I would probably have a bit of a problem. If they start dressing up and role-playing in the real world, they're taking it way too far, unless they are doing so as a re-enactment.

A different opinion. If the swastika bothers you that much, don't look at it, ignore it. Life will go on.

If the Germans wish to ban the symbol, they shall. I believe that making a symbol forbidden only gives it that much more power. They don't control everybody, though, and people are free to do what they wish in other places. If I recall correctly, the Germans do allow the symbols of the Third Reich to be used in artistic and historical context. I guess you could define a sig picture as art.

Razark

[AVGWarhawk]

Take a break gents. Continue with a PM to each other if you want.

[AVGWarhawk]

Thead open. For those deep into discussing sigs and the significance of the content I suggest a new thread is started. Keep it nice nice.:03:

[Rockin Robbins]

OK, I'm calling new thread and leave this one for discussion of Kapitan_Phillips' videos.

[Jimbuna]

OK, I'm calling new thread and leave this one for discussion of Kapitan_Phillips' videos.

Best post from you yet http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4030/winkbigid2zj6.gif

[MC-Maxim]

Hahahahaha ... AWESOME ! :D

[Rockin Robbins]

We're about due for a sequel, aren't we Kapitan?:D

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Das Boot plays Silent Hunter 4: Episode III - JGSME Jurgen

is officially in production :O:

[Kipparikalle]

Sounds good, althought I really hope some improvement in the humour

[Rockin Robbins]

Ouch! I didn't produce those movies and that hurt. While it is true that if you're watching the movies now with the fixes we have, you're wondering what's funny, you have to judge the videos by the standard of the time they were made.

There were a hatful of features that were.......old hat in SH3 that just didn't work in SH4. There was only one that I can think of (the save game forgetting your career) that was actually fixed going from SH3 to SH4. It was either laugh or cry. Kaptian_Phillips chose to laugh.

[Kipparikalle]

By what I said I didn't mean that I didn't laugh. I just suggested to improve the quality of the humour.

The films are alright, and I'm looking forward to see more

[Akula4745]

Das Boot plays Silent Hunter 4: Episode III - JGSME Jurgen is officially in production :O:

Awesome! I love a good trilogy. Thanks Kapitan!

[Kapitan_Phillips]

haha, just completed a "Johann installed the Engine Room Mod" segment :haha:

[141st_Alper]

Perfectly! Hope you continue this with other submarine movies.

[kiwi_2005]

I just found this now, nice vid keep up the good work!

[AVGWarhawk]

:D:D:D

[ReallyDedPoet]

:har::up:

[indy]

Kapitan_Phillips Stop your killen me lololololo:rotfl: Indy
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