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Kptlt. Neuerburg
04-13-07, 12:16 AM
Hey out there to all you GWX fans, I was wondering if anyone has tried to attack Dunkirk during its evacuation. I'm very tempted to and have already sunk a armed trawler on the way in. Now I'm a few miles out from the port but the weather isn't helping much. But theres alot of tonnage just waiting to be sunk, they are as follows: British 5-6 passanger and freighters and 7-8 destoryers, French 2-3 cargos and passenger, and 1-2 warships, Polish 2 warships, Irish 1 cargo. All of these are in the port. Should I risk it or abort this mission?

Umfuld
04-13-07, 02:03 AM
I've always thought about it, but never have. Too many meaty convoys in the middle of the Atlantic for me to try that.

danlisa
04-13-07, 02:19 AM
Sink them all.:arrgh!: Don't forget, it's not very deep there.


P.s I'll see you in the Big U-Boat in the Sky.:dead::rotfl:

Lzs von swe
04-13-07, 02:53 AM
Should I risk it or abort this mission?
One word comes to me here: MINES:dead: :dead:

But the prize is there:yep:

Kaleun Cook
04-13-07, 03:37 AM
For some reason I always thought the mines would have been just an idea and were only drawn in the maps - till I tried to get away from escorts in the shallow water east of england and wanted to see the charges hit the boot in external view. Instead I saw the boat running straight for one single mine. Spooky. :o

Hakahura
04-13-07, 04:03 AM
Dunkirk?

Well worth it. I was there for the BEF evacuation. Massive tonnage for me and I got to watch a Luftwaffe raid. Then I watched them get shot down, one nearly crashed on my submerged boat:o


http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9643/24757657tl3.png

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3682/sh3img22120072028am0.png
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2909/sh3img22120072032sj0.png

Not the best screen shots in the world, but I was somewhat occupied at the time.

Jimbuna
04-13-07, 07:11 AM
What's that bottom picture depicting :hmm:

Kpt. Kozloff
04-13-07, 07:34 AM
What's that bottom picture depicting :hmm:

It looks like Cpt. Nemo's Nautilus. I didn't know that he was on the Gerries side though.
;)

P.s. It happened to me once. The plane has crashed into my boat while at periscope depth. Killed half of my crew. It wasn't funny needless to say.

Jimbuna
04-13-07, 07:46 AM
Is it a 'glitch' in the graphics ? :hmm:

mr chris
04-13-07, 07:49 AM
Well i raided the port in testing of the patch but it was at the start of the war very sucessfull it was.
Though almost got a little greedy and took on a Armed Trawler of the coast of Dover with the flak gun:doh: only just won. :arrgh!::arrgh!:

P_Funk
04-13-07, 08:02 AM
Come on then! Lets all sink a bunch of fishing boats full of young men with no guns! I dunno if thats called tonnage.:hmm: Certainly rapage.

94cruiser
04-13-07, 09:13 AM
I don't have my stats with me, however I was able to sink the aux. cruiser and the landing craft docked outside the port, inside the port I sant the passanger liner which was docked opposite side of the pier where the aux. cruiser is

then I sank two out of the three transport ships in the middle of the harbor (the luftwaffer got the last one), and I also sank the one passanger liner docked on the north pier.

there was only one destroyer which would try to find me but the AI was very dumb.
all others are stationary.
it's very shallow so it took two to three torps per ship to sink them, all I could do was aim manually to where I want the hit but anything below the keel would be a no go, duds would explode prematurely hitting the ground I guess.

I was never fortunate to see ships move however I did receive one message from BDU about heavy traffic in that area. I hope the game designers created an armada of ships going back and forth across the channel. That would be a great sight - not only for the juicy sinking factor but also a quite important historical event depicted in the game.

The luftwaffe almost sank me in the mids of it all too.
Lastly for some reason every time I would try to approach the port from the east the game would crash to desktop - every single time.
If I approach from the north silent running I was all good.

:up:

Sailor Steve
04-13-07, 11:09 AM
That's not right. They didn't use the harbor for the evacuation, and there should be more than 40 destroyers. I know that would bring the FPS to negative 25 but still you shouldn't be able to get in.

bigboywooly
04-13-07, 11:41 AM
Minefields and shelling from German batteries on the French coast forced evacuation convoys to take longer routes to Dunkirk. The first convoy, after sustaining heavy air attacks, found the port of Dunkirk and its oil tanks ablaze and only the passenger ferries ‘Royal Daffodil’ and later the ‘Canterbury’ (http://www.dover-kent.co.uk/transport/canterbury.htm) succeeded in berthing. By the end of the first day only 7,500 troops had been rescued and it was clearly impossible to use the port. Captain Tennant, in charge of the naval shore party at Dunkirk, signalled for the rescue ships to be diverted to the beaches east of the town. But here shallow waters prevented the large ships getting within a mile of the shore and troops had to be ferried in smaller craft from the beaches to the ships. There was an alternative, a spindly concrete pier with a wooden walkway, never designed to have ships docking against it but it was found that it could be used. Differences in loading speeds were dramatic HMS ‘Sabre’ took 2 hours to load 100 troops from the beach, but from the pier it took only 35 minutes to board 500 troops.

http://www.dover-kent.co.uk/history/ww2b_dunkirk.htm



They were rescued from the harbour and beaches near to Dunkirk by a curious assembly of many different types of craft.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/765004.stm

I did up the patrols for Dunkirk in 1.03
May have to look at that again but too many and they spend more time avoiding each other than patrolling
Damn AI collision routines

Col Frost
04-13-07, 12:50 PM
That's not right. They didn't use the harbor for the evacuation, and there should be more than 40 destroyers. I know that would bring the FPS to negative 25 but still you shouldn't be able to get in.

When I approached at night from the NE there were 3-4 destroyers to the east of the harbour, and at least 3 armed trawlers/tugboats patroling just past the northern entrance. More arrived in the course of the next half hour from the North. Only just escaped with my u-boat intact...:oops:

TheJaguar
04-13-07, 01:17 PM
Lastly for some reason every time I would try to approach the port from the east the game would crash to desktop - every single time.
If I approach from the north silent running I was all good.

:up:

I have had the exact same crash, multiple times.
I did a camplete reinstall to correct it but it was still there.
Glad to know the gremlins are not just on my boat.;)

Hakahura
04-13-07, 01:24 PM
Jimbuna

Sorry, the bottom picture is a Ju88 shot down by a British destroyer in Dunkirk harbour.

The one that nearly crashed on me whilst I was submerged:o

Jimbuna
04-13-07, 02:50 PM
Jimbuna

Sorry, the bottom picture is a Ju88 shot down by a British destroyer in Dunkirk harbour.

The one that nearly crashed on me whilst I was submerged:o

Rgr that matey :up: :arrgh!:

Brag
04-13-07, 04:17 PM
I have a severe dislike for shallow water.

Kptlt. Neuerburg
04-13-07, 04:45 PM
Dunkirk?

Well worth it. I was there for the BEF evacuation. Massive tonnage for me and I got to watch a Luftwaffe raid. Then I watched them get shot down, one nearly crashed on my submerged boat:o


http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9643/24757657tl3.png

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3682/sh3img22120072028am0.png
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2909/sh3img22120072032sj0.png

Not the best screen shots in the world, but I was somewhat occupied at the time. Well I'll adimit about the screenshots but where there any uummm... mines?

Kptlt. Neuerburg
04-13-07, 04:47 PM
I have a severe dislike for shallow water.Its not that shallow. Geez the fjords in Norway are shallower than that.

Kptlt. Neuerburg
04-13-07, 04:59 PM
Well the bigger question is what boats are inside the port and which ones are out?

mr chris
04-13-07, 05:05 PM
As stated above i raided the port while testing the GWX 1.03 Patch. Here is a list of what i found inside the harbour in Sept of 39.

1 Large Tanker (E) Sunk with 3 torpedos
2 Polish DD's V&W Class (Sunk with 1 torpedo each)
2 English DD's V&W Class ( Sunk with 1 torpedo each)
2 Motor Vessels (F)
1 Schooner (E)
2 Fishing boats (F)
Passenger Liner (F) (Sunk with 3 torpedos)
1 Tramp Steamer (D)
1 Tramp Steamer Romania?????
2 Tug Boats (F)
1 Medium Cargo (F)
1 Medium Cargo (I)

(E) = English
(F) = French
(D) = Dutch
(I) = Italian.

Kptlt. Neuerburg
04-13-07, 05:22 PM
Well Mr Chris I'm there in May 1940 ,do you have any info on what where then?

Kptlt. Neuerburg
04-13-07, 08:53 PM
Well I tried anyways just to see what would happen and the Luftwaffe got most of the ships in Dunkirk and then the British got me before I got them. But I got some fantastic screenshots of the airraids though.

mr chris
04-14-07, 05:59 AM
Sorry matey in my testing i only raided it the once in 39. So cant really help you there. But Sink them all:up::arrgh!:

nikbear
04-15-07, 11:56 AM
Lastly for some reason every time I would try to approach the port from the east the game would crash to desktop - every single time.
If I approach from the north silent running I was all good.

:up:

I have had the exact same crash, multiple times.
I did a camplete reinstall to correct it but it was still there.
Glad to know the gremlins are not just on my boat.;)

That happened to me as well,I thought it was my puter not coping with the multiple ships and the fps taking a hit,not just me then:hmm: