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kaptain klank
04-10-07, 11:41 AM
personally i don't load my exeternal stores into the boat during foul weather or nighttime.

i figure you wouldn't be able to in real life so why do them in the game.

any1 else?

The Munster
04-10-07, 11:56 AM
If I'm in the throes of a convoy and the escorts are looking the wrong way then I get them loaded ASAP.

Brag
04-10-07, 12:50 PM
Historically: they loaded torpedoes at night and in some fairly rough weather

Herr Russ
04-10-07, 01:24 PM
It surprised me that they could load eels, but not man the flak guns during bad weather.. I load them as soon as possible since you never know if a convoy is just over the horizon..

Good Hunting..

Platapus
04-10-07, 02:20 PM
When the mission demands, I work my crew like the dogs they are.

Rough weather? not a problem, the torpedoes are lashed securely. If any of my crew is lame enough to fall over board, I will find one to replace him.

WORK UNTIL YOU DROP DOGS!!


(seriously, it would be a nice add-on that if you are reloading externals during rough weather that there is a chance you might lose someone)

Heibges
04-10-07, 04:07 PM
I do that, and also in rough weather, i do not reload the actual tubes on the surface, but submerge to do so.

The Munster
04-10-07, 04:09 PM
When the mission demands, I work my crew like the dogs they are.

Rough weather? not a problem, the torpedoes are lashed securely. If any of my crew is lame enough to fall over board, I will find one to replace him.

WORK UNTIL YOU DROP DOGS!!


(seriously, it would be a nice add-on that if you are reloading externals during rough weather that there is a chance you might lose someone)

Good idea for a Mod, a 'man overboard !' Mod

kaptain klank
04-10-07, 04:51 PM
didn't they have to open special hatches to lower the torps into the torpedo rooms?

it seems like rough weather would cause a lot of water pouring down into the torpedo room.....like tons of water....

also, as for loading torpedo's at night.... how would you see what you were doing at night? did they use lights?

Sailor Steve
04-10-07, 05:03 PM
Historically: they loaded torpedoes at night and in some fairly rough weather
How rough? References?

didn't they have to open special hatches to lower the torps into the torpedo rooms?

it seems like rough weather would cause a lot of water pouring down into the torpedo room.....like tons of water....

also, as for loading torpedo's at night.... how would you see what you were doing at night? did they use lights?
Yes. They had to go on deck and set up a small crane, and open a hatch big enough to allow the torpedo to be passed into the boat. It took more than a few minutes to do it all; closer to an hour.

As for lights; I don't know. I always load mine at night, but always in dead calm.

ddiplock
04-10-07, 05:19 PM
I lost an officer because he was "killed in a barfight" just before my 4th patrol!!!!

Really, what's the state of the uboat force coming to when men die in such stupid instances!!! :damn: Fighting over who gets the whore is just downright petty!!! lol :yep:

The Munster
04-10-07, 05:32 PM
Lost some good men like that .. good Scottish men and i wa... oops, thought we were on the set of Braveheart there for a moment :rotfl:

Kaleun Cook
04-10-07, 06:04 PM
I lost an officer because he was "killed in a barfight" just before my 4th patrol!!!!


huh, for real now?!

ddiplock
04-10-07, 06:07 PM
I lost an officer because he was "killed in a barfight" just before my 4th patrol!!!!


huh, for real now?!

yes for real. thats what SH3 commander told me when i loaded my save game before starting my 4th patrol.

will uboat men ever learn there's plenty of whores for everyone in the service? lol

Cerberus
04-10-07, 06:55 PM
I lost an officer because he was "killed in a barfight" just before my 4th patrol!!!!


huh, for real now?!

yes for real. thats what SH3 commander told me when i loaded my save game before starting my 4th patrol.

will uboat men ever learn there's plenty of whores for everyone in the service? lol

Yes, but.

There's only one Marlena...

"Underneath the lamplight
By the barrack gate
Darling I remember
The way you used to wait ...."

Sigh.

shegeek72
04-10-07, 07:10 PM
personally i don't load my exeternal stores into the boat during foul weather or nighttime.

i figure you wouldn't be able to in real life so why do them in the game.

any1 else?
Though I haven't done any research into loading ext. torps, it seems unlikely the crew could load them in rough weather. The watch crew had to be lashed to the bridge in foul weather to prevent being washed overboard. But I'd like to know what actually happened with the externals. :hmm:
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http://tarafoundation.org/sh3_U100.jpg

Heibges
04-10-07, 07:17 PM
I lost an officer because he was "killed in a barfight" just before my 4th patrol!!!!

Really, what's the state of the uboat force coming to when men die in such stupid instances!!! :damn: Fighting over who gets the whore is just downright petty!!! lol :yep:

An Officer killed in a bar fight?

Jeez Louise

von Zelda
04-11-07, 06:31 AM
From what I've read, loading of external torpedos required daylight and calm weather.

An intersting side note: late in the war (1943 - 44), most Type VII and Type IX boats did NOT carry externals due to the threat of airplanes. The exception to this was the boats that traveled to the South Atlantic and Indian ocean.

dcb
04-11-07, 07:13 AM
I am sticking to a self-made rule: no external reloads when wind force is over 10. However, I do night time external reloads, because I think a trained crew should know how to handle things even in low light conditions.

kaptain klank
04-11-07, 09:38 AM
i don't load torps unless i'm allowed to use my deck gun & a.a. or during daylight.

btw, how much did a torpedo weigh? 1200 lbs maybe?

i'm guessing it would be impossible to load a 1200 lb. torpedo at night or during rough weather.

people would be getting crushed.

joea
04-11-07, 12:51 PM
I follow the same rules as you do Klank. ;)

Heibges
04-11-07, 01:20 PM
i don't load torps unless i'm allowed to use my deck gun & a.a. or during daylight.

btw, how much did a torpedo weigh? 1200 lbs maybe?

i'm guessing it would be impossible to load a 1200 lb. torpedo at night or during rough weather.

people would be getting crushed.

Plus, I think they cost 20,000 RM, so I would imagine the Captain would be in big trouble if he lost one overboard, due to not following procedure.

There must have been a KM Manual regarding this, but there is no mention of it in the Uboat Commanders Handbook. There is mention of maximum seastate for launching surface and submerged torpedo attacks.

Sailor Steve
04-11-07, 04:57 PM
i don't load torps unless i'm allowed to use my deck gun & a.a. or during daylight.

btw, how much did a torpedo weigh? 1200 lbs maybe?

i'm guessing it would be impossible to load a 1200 lb. torpedo at night or during rough weather.

people would be getting crushed.
Actually around three times that:
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WTGER_WWII.htm

There is mention of maximum seastate for launching surface and submerged torpedo attacks.
Well? Don't keep me in suspense! What are they! Please, I must know!

Heibges
04-11-07, 05:21 PM
78) A rough sea state restricts the use of the submarine as a weapon of war:

a) as regards the underwater use of torpedoes: as soon as the underwater steering gear can no longer be controlled at periscope depth. In the case of small submarines the dividing line will be between sea No. 5 or 6, for medium and large boats, sea No. 6 or 7, approximately.

b) as regards the surface use of torpedoes: the dividing line in this case is reached in somewhat less rough conditions than apply to the underwater use of torpedoes, on account of the unfavorable influence of the rough sea on the maneuverability of the vessel on the surface.

100) Favorable Conditions for attack.

c) wind 3 to 4 and sea 2 to 3 are most favorable for making the attack because the sea then washes over the low-lying periscope, without interfering with the view of the target, while the action of the underwater steering gear is not adversely affected.