View Full Version : Cruise ship sinks on Mediterranean reef
Syxx_Killer
04-06-07, 08:03 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070406/ap_on_re_eu/greece_cruise_ship
I didn't see this anywhere else on the forum here. It apparently hit a sea crater created by a volcano. Two still seem to be unaccounted for. The article didn't say, but I wonder what the depth of the water was the ship sank in.
JSLTIGER
04-06-07, 08:55 AM
Wikipedia is saying more than 200m.
A shame to see her go down. She was a beautiful ship. I sailed on her a couple of times whem she was still called Birka Princess.
UglyMowgli
04-06-07, 09:57 AM
2 frenchs are missing (an old man and is 20 year old daughter).
JSLTIGER
04-06-07, 02:19 PM
A shame to see her go down. She was a beautiful ship. I sailed on her a couple of times whem she was still called Birka Princess.
Small though...only 22,000 tons. I wonder if they'll attempt to re-float her.
Syxx_Killer
04-06-07, 04:32 PM
Small though...only 22,000 tons. I wonder if they'll attempt to re-float her.
That's what I was wondering and that is why I wondered how deep it was. If it is 200m like you mentioned, I doubt they will try to raise her.
Shame really.
Shallower than 60m it'd be a great scuba diving attraction.
CptSimFreak
04-06-07, 06:07 PM
It seems some caption from SH3 reached a new level of fanaticism about their hubby. :hmm:
bradclark1
04-06-07, 08:42 PM
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JSLTIGER
04-06-07, 09:04 PM
Small though...only 22,000 tons. I wonder if they'll attempt to re-float her.
That's what I was wondering and that is why I wondered how deep it was. If it is 200m like you mentioned, I doubt they will try to raise her.
Certainly doesn't sound like it...it looks like they are planning to recover the fuel though.
Torpedo Fodder
04-07-07, 12:15 AM
Small though...only 22,000 tons. I wonder if they'll attempt to re-float her.
That's what I was wondering and that is why I wondered how deep it was. If it is 200m like you mentioned, I doubt they will try to raise her.
Certainly doesn't sound like it...it looks like they are planning to recover the fuel though.
In any case, the ship capsized as she went down, so she's probably resting inverted or on her side. Very unlikely to be recoverable, even if the water was shallower.
HunterICX
04-07-07, 04:01 AM
*Quietly crawls away with 870 Renown in his pocket*
J/k
well, lucky it wasnt a mayor disaster, still I feel sorry for the 2 losses
I would like to know why the ship was taking water.
Syxx_Killer
04-07-07, 10:06 AM
Even with two losses, when you stop and consider how many were on there, that isn't too bad. The Oceanos disaster back in the early 90's was similar - everybody survived. With advances in technology, it's amazing how many survived in both incidents.
With the advances in technology its equally as puzzling as to how it sank.
ASWnut101
04-07-07, 04:12 PM
It ran aground into a coral reef. If you've been near one, you'll know the dangers they possess for boats. Run aground in one of those, and you will have a nice neat hole in your boat.
It is interesting to see how the SH folks came out of the woodwork for this...:ping:
tycho102
04-07-07, 05:24 PM
I'd just like to know why it was off the "normal" route. Obviously thousands of other boats have made the same run without running aground. As far as I am aware, GPS was functioning normally.
What is the story? Did they have a lit navigator? Was the pilot lit (by which I am referring to whatever the Greeks make that is above 30% ethanol, by volume)? Had they turned off their GPS system or was it otherwise non-functional at the time?
There *has* to be something more going on than just a navigation error. There are reports of not enough life preservers, poor employee training and evacuation planning, and other general moranousness involved immediately after the grounding.
I'd just like to know why it was off the "normal" route. Obviously thousands of other boats have made the same run without running aground. As far as I am aware, GPS was functioning normally.
What is the story? Did they have a lit navigator? Was the pilot lit (by which I am referring to whatever the Greeks make that is above 30% ethanol, by volume)? Had they turned off their GPS system or was it otherwise non-functional at the time?
There *has* to be something more going on than just a navigation error. There are reports of not enough life preservers, poor employee training and evacuation planning, and other general moranousness involved immediately after the grounding.
Sounds to me like the "Insurance Coil" became to hot and water was the only solution:sunny: :sunny:
:rotfl:
It ran aground into a coral reef. If you've been near one, you'll know the dangers they possess for boats. Run aground in one of those, and you will have a nice neat hole in your boat.
If it ran into a coral reef off the coast of Greece that would be news as there aren't any.
It hit a "reef". Marine speak for a submerged rock.
ASWnut101
04-08-07, 05:26 PM
It ran aground into a coral reef. If you've been near one, you'll know the dangers they possess for boats. Run aground in one of those, and you will have a nice neat hole in your boat.
If it ran into a coral reef off the coast of Greece that would be news as there aren't any.
It hit a "reef". Marine speak for a submerged rock.
Same difference...
Anyway, I just heard on the news that the Captain said it was "Due to strong currents." But I agree with you Gnirt, it would be a nice attraction for diving. She tipped upside-down before sinking, the very front of the keel went under last.
If its 200m its beyond pretty much anything except saturation diving although given its size it'll be shallower than seabed.
Greece desperately needs some diving attractions in its otherwise barren waters but this wont be one.
60m though would be fantastic :)
Hmm bernard must have been at the helm :hmm:
bookworm_020
04-09-07, 06:34 PM
Rocks are still being found as ships run into them. They found a rock outcrop off New york when the QE2 ran into it a couple of years back. Sometimes despite the most modern of technology being on board, you will still be caught out.
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