Medal Of Honor Medal Requirements ?

[Lt commander lare]

hi what is the requirements for getting the medal of honor in silent hunter 4
i just sank 8 merchant ships and a hiryu fleet carrier and i didnt get the medal of honor but medal of valor can anyone answer this for me thanks

lt cmdr lare

[FIREWALL]

hi what is the requirements for getting the medal of honor in silent hunter 4
i just sank 8 merchant ships and a hiryu fleet carrier and i didnt get the medal of honor but medal of valor can anyone answer this for me thanks

lt cmdr lare

I wish I had an answer. I sunk 11 merchants and 2 de's and got the medal of squat. nada nutin.:damn:

[tedhealy]

Ha, I just went on supply mission, then got orders to patrol luzon straits and sunk a 1800 ton ship. I then got orders to patrol china sea and got a destroyer. What did I get when I got back home? The silver star :D for under a 3000 ton patrol and landing supplies.

I guess I could write it off as being December 1941 and the brass was eager to reward any success they could find and that I'm playing at 100%. What difficulty are you playing on? If it's not 100, you won't get full renown credit for accomplishing goals and sinkings.

[Werewolf13]

The real deal is given for performance that is above and beyond the call of duty at the risk of one's life. It's the highest military award there is and it is a big deal to get it and a rare occurence. Most guys who get it - don't - because they're dead. Their families get it.

How that would be simulated in game terms is anyone's guess.

However they set it up you should only be able to win it maybe once in 10 careers IMO. That way if you did win it in the game you'd know you actually did something that in games term is rarely accomplished.

[Ducimus]

I would imagine its an award that you only see, right as your career game comes to a glorious and fatal conclusion.

[nimitstexan]

I think in the game it generally requires an extrondanairy feat, such as sinking a fleet carrier or a Yamota battleship, and even at that, it is much easier to win than it would have been in real life. It would be very hard to simulate an action in a sub sim worthy of a Medal of Honor, since this was awarded for extreme bravery and self-sacrifice. As said abouve, the majority of those who have won it (including submariners) did not survive the action for which the medal was awarded

[DirtyHarry3033]

Actually, I got the CMOH last night. I was going "What the F*CK did I do to earn that????"

Was only my second patrol, to East China Sea, and scored my 1st kills on that patrol. Total kills:

7 merchants
1 warship (DD)
Tonnage: 36,599

Only completed 1 of 2 mission requirements:

1) Deploy to East China Sea (Complete)
2) Engage and destroy enemy merchant shipping (Incomplete)

Naturally I was suprised to get the CMOH, a Bronze Star might have been more in order! (if even that much...)

Who knows, it must be totally random and I just got lucky and hit the jackpot???

DH

[WFGood]

I have received it twice so far. Both times I have sunk around 70,000 tons. It could be that amount of tonnage or perhaps a major combatant. I can't tell. I have a patrol in which I sank 102,000 tons, and I was awarded the Navy Cross. In that case they were all merchants except for a pesky DD. Go figure.

[Snakeeyes]

GEESE! You'd think you would have to capture the Emperor while he was playing chess with Yamamoto on the Yamato!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[daft]

I sank two fleet carriers (Shokaku, Hiryu) and got the CMoH.

[jmjohnson36]

I sank and plane tender and a small flat top and won the medal...Im not sure its based on tonnage alone...I also completed both main and secondary missions assigned to me in the time required

[Lukemb]

During my first career I got 3 MOH (in 8 patrols).

the tonnage for each one was 61,000 - 53,000 - 32,000.

Each I time I was completing 3-5 objectives.

I also got 2 Navy Crosses for 55,000 and 84,000.

I guess the medals are awarded according to different criteria, such as:
- tonnage
- no. of ships sunk
- no. of objectives completed
- patrol renown
- patrol rating

With a few people we are tryng to figure right the exact award criteria in order to mod them and make them more realistic but so far we haven't been lucky in our research of the game files.

[elanaiba]

According to the book "Wolfpack: The american submarine strategy that helped defeat Japan", the requirements/standards established in 44 by the US Navy for medals are:

Bronze Star: 2 ships sunk in a patrol

Silver Star: 3 ships sunk in a patrol ori a DD ori larger combatant vessel, or a special mission worthy of this award

Navy Cross: 4 ships sunk in a patrol or a BB, CV or CA or a highly dangerous mission

For all of these 2 ships damaged will be considered as one sunk.

[elanaiba]

Of course, the requirements in the game are actually higher, but on the other hand so is the tonnage you guys are racking in comparision to your real life counterparts.

[Lukemb]

Of course, the requirements in the game are actually higher, but on the other hand so is the tonnage you guys are racking in comparision to your real life counterparts.

Elanaiba,

Is possible to know where are the requirements for each decoration?

Looking at UPCdata files I wasn't able to find the criteria for each award.

Thanks for any info you might be able to share.

[Boris]

Here you go:

MEDAL OF HONOR SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS

MINIMUM CONFIGURATION


Windows XP, Windows Me, Windows 98, or Windows 95 (Windows 2000 and Windows NT are not supported)
450 MHz Intel Pentium II or 500 MHz AMD Athlon processor
128 MB RAM
8x CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive
135 MB free hard disk space (additional space required for Windows swap-file, DirectX 8.0 installation and GameSpy installation).
16 MB OpenGL capable video card using an Nvidia GeForce3, Nvidia GeForce2, Nvidia GeForce 256, Nvidia Riva TNT2, Nvidia Riva TNT,
ATI Radeon, ATI Rage 128 Pro, ATI Rage 128, PowerVR3 Kyro II, or PowerVR Kyro chipset with OpenGL and DirectX 8.0 compatible driver
DirectX 8.0 compatible sound card
Keyboard
Mouse

RECOMMENDED

700 MHz or faster Intel Pentium III or AMD Athlon processor
32 MB or greater supported OpenGL capable video card with OpenGL and DirectX 8.0 compatible driver
GameSpy Arcade (to locate servers to play on)

[Lukemb]

ha ha ha , very funny Boris ;) ...

[elanaiba]

Outta my docs - should be about the same in the code :)

Purple Heart: over 40% medium damage taken by the sub

Bronze Star: 3 ships sunk in one patrol or a DD, CL or larger combatant ship not worthy of a higher award

Silver Star: 6 ships sunk in one patrol or a CVE or CA sunk

Navy Cross: 8 ships sunk in one patrol or a BB or CV

CMOH: 6 ships sunk in the same engagement (checks for 24 h timeframe) or 2 of the following BB, CV, CVE

[Lukemb]

Outta my docs - should be about the same in the code :)

Purple Heart: over 40% medium damage taken by the sub

Bronze Star: 3 ships sunk in one patrol or a DD, CL or larger combatant ship not worthy of a higher award

Silver Star: 6 ships sunk in one patrol or a CVE or CA sunk

Navy Cross: 8 ships sunk in one patrol or a BB or CV

CMOH: 6 ships sunk in the same engagement (checks for 24 h timeframe) or 2 of the following BB, CV, CVE







Thanks for the info Elanaiba. I'll try to find them in the files.

[Gigalocus]

Outta my docs - should be about the same in the code :)

Purple Heart: over 40% medium damage taken by the sub

Bronze Star: 3 ships sunk in one patrol or a DD, CL or larger combatant ship not worthy of a higher award

Silver Star: 6 ships sunk in one patrol or a CVE or CA sunk

Navy Cross: 8 ships sunk in one patrol or a BB or CV

CMOH: 6 ships sunk in the same engagement (checks for 24 h timeframe) or 2 of the following BB, CV, CVE







oh, i never got a CMOH :down:

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6976/sh4img3132007202755734qv6.png (http://imageshack.us)

and i sunk 7 :arrgh!: , is there any other requirments?

also, i sunk a akitsu ( the small carrier but with a tower) does that count? it should, i also sunk a seaplane tender but got no navy cross:stare:

[elanaiba]

The ships should be something like 1000 tons or higher IIRC.

[Beery]

Outta my docs - should be about the same in the code :)

Purple Heart: over 40% medium damage taken by the sub

Bronze Star: 3 ships sunk in one patrol or a DD, CL or larger combatant ship not worthy of a higher award

Silver Star: 6 ships sunk in one patrol or a CVE or CA sunk

Navy Cross: 8 ships sunk in one patrol or a BB or CV

CMOH: 6 ships sunk in the same engagement (checks for 24 h timeframe) or 2 of the following BB, CV, CVE







Thanks for the info Elanaiba. I'll try to find them in the files.

Has anyone found these yet? I'm very interested in making these more realistic for RFB as the mod is now focusing on making tonnage harder to get.

[CaptainHaplo]

I got no idea where these stats are - but HUZZAH for making shipping harder to find. I racked up over 200k in one patrol (granted I use the double strength torp mod) by only choosing major combatants or the largest of merchies. By the time I got back to port - I didnt even have a roll of toilet paper left to throw at the empire of the rising sun!

*****Side note - Is that why the admiral tossed my medal of honor at me from the dock????*****

On the flip side - my renown went up about 10k!

While I did get a Medal of Honor - it didnt tell me it was from Congress. A different medal perhaps?

Oh well - now to go get a shower - I feel like I need one just from typing that!
Good Hunting!
Captain Haplo

[dean_acheson]

are you guys using the TDC????

[CaptainHaplo]

Yes and no. If I cant get in on a convoy I will use manual TDC. Thats rare though. Most of the time I use the point and shoot method from extreme minimum range. You lead a ship at 400 yards away by 8 - 10 degrees and fire. At high torp speed - based on deflection angle - and you'll hit. You just have to adjust for the AOB. From that close - its actually a really easy shot. The hard part of those attacks is getting in the right spot without being detected. The upside is that you can use both fore and aft shots very fast if you can position yourself between 2 columns.

Its a personal choice - my attack style is to knife fight, whether using torps or the deck gun. There are some that play the game just because they like doing all the math, some that like to just lock the target and yell "shoot" - and then the few like me that take a middle ground.

Remember - at lower "realism" levels you dont get full credit in renown for the sinkings. Had I been running low "realism", renown would have probably been somwhere around 3-5k instead.

Good Hunting!
Captain Haplo

[Mudrik]

I am not boasting here so please don't think that I am. I am simply adding a comment.

I am playing the game with very low realism settings (I want to have fun sinking ships, not have a coronary during each mission) and received four CMOH in my first career!

I would suggest therefore that medals awarded are also tied in to realism settings and lightweights like me will get a load of medals at the end of every mission, whereas hardcore players will get awards based on realistic wartime settings. Mind you, the US military have always seemed to be very medal happy anyway, not like here in the UK where you pretty much have to be sent home in an A4 envelope, after selflessly saving a dozen of your comrades in arms, to get the highest of awards.

[LW_lcarp]

Mind you, the US military have always seemed to be very medal happy anyway, not like here in the UK where you pretty much have to be sent home in an A4 envelope, after selflessly saving a dozen of your comrades in arms, to get the highest of awards.


Hmm medal happy hey look here http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/moh1.htm then tell me they JUST give them away. Maybe you need to not let your alligator mouth overload your canary A$$.

And it is NOT the CMOH it is the Medal of Honor. It is awarded by the President in the name of Congress.

[Sailor Steve]

And it is NOT the CMOH it is the Medal of Honor. It is awarded by the President in the name of Congress.
It's arguable both ways, and both are considered acceptable.
http://www.cmohs.org/medal.htm

[Mudrik]

Mind you, the US military have always seemed to be very medal happy anyway, not like here in the UK where you pretty much have to be sent home in an A4 envelope, after selflessly saving a dozen of your comrades in arms, to get the highest of awards.

Hmm medal happy hey look here http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/moh1.htm then tell me they JUST give them away. Maybe you need to not let your alligator mouth overload your canary A$$.

And it is NOT the CMOH it is the Medal of Honor. It is awarded by the President in the name of Congress.
Sure, have a look at this then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Cross.

I wasn't knocking the US military, just stating the obvious fact that more medals are available in the US. Simply look at the chest of any US general compared to your average UK general and I'm sure that you will see why I have reached this conclusion. Also, look in your "CareerTrack UPC" and it clearly says CMOH.

When Andy McNab left the SAS after serving at Hereford for 9 yrs he was the highest decorated serving soldier with only a DCM (distinguished conduct medal) and a MM (military medal) to his name. I rest my case.

Oh, and by the way, it's ARSE not ASS if you wouldn't mind

[LW_lcarp]

Fair enough arse it is. Also alot of the Generals running around now days where lieutenants in veitnam so they also have the veitnam conflit, american defence ribbons. And any other little ribbon that was awarded for combat operations they were involved in. So alot of the ribbons they are sporting arent award ribbons but campiagn ribbons.

Heres a list of submariners that won the MOH so you guys can see what they did to winn the Medal of Honor. http://www.valoratsea.com/MoH.htm

[Mudrik]

Fair enough arse it is. Also alot of the Generals running around now days where lieutenants in veitnam so they also have the veitnam conflit, american defence ribbons. And any other little ribbon that was awarded for combat operations they were involved in. So alot of the ribbons they are sporting arent award ribbons but campiagn ribbons.

Heres a list of submariners that won the MOH so you guys can see what they did to winn the Medal of Honor. http://www.valoratsea.com/MoH.htm

No worries, you can kick me up the arse but to kick me up the ass would be animal cruelty! lol.

I take your point squarely on the chin. Campaign medals and unit citations are a long way from medals awarded for individual acts of heroism.

[LW_lcarp]

Will be reading that site more glad to see sites that list what the ribbions were awarded for.

[CaptainHaplo]

Regardless - remember this forum has rules regarding how you deal with other posters. You may disagree with a point - but name calling, etc will not be well recieved by the community at large. Just a word to the wise....

[AntEater]

Lol, we were always told US soldiers get a medal for completing their basic training without landing in the brig...;)
Actually medals are a cheap and effective way of rewarding soldiers for combat and noncombat performance, so I can understand the US practice. The Bundeswehr is the same as the brits. Some KSK guys were awarded silver stars and other US medals for Afghanistan service because the germans did not want to award anything.
Maybe the german and british militaries are too tight with the brass and ribbon toys...

Anyway, I wonder why Elanaiba is so tight lipped about where they stored the awards criteria. Even if it is in the code, we could tweak it with the mini tweaker :)
Apparently they are not solely renown based, but have a much more flexible system, which could be further improved by people who have more time on their hands than the developers obviously had.
Maybe it is even possible to make the award criteria time dependent...
Just about every skipper of the first war patrols to Japan got a navy cross for virtually nothing (except the skipper of Dolphin, who got a straightjacket instead..), while only a really good war patrol could get a skipper such a cross in 1944.
Ok, according to Blair, a navy cross in WW2 had some nice benefits tagged to it:
A guaranteed "tombstone promotion" to rear admiral on retirement, giving the recipent an admiral's pension even if he did not make admiral in his actice service.
I am not sure a CMOH winner should even return to active combat.
Most submarine CMOH awards were posthumously or in the last months of WW2 or even postwar.

[greekfire]

I got CMOH on first patrol in 1942 career last night by returning from Patrol Mission with 131,000 tonnage. I think I sank 3 warships and 18 merchants.

[Beery]

Anyway, I wonder why Elanaiba is so tight lipped about where they stored the awards criteria. Even if it is in the code, we could tweak it with the mini tweaker :)

I think it's probably in a volume file somewhere. If that's the case the mini tweaker wouldn't help. We'd have to decompress the files first. I wish the devs would open up about this one though - it's not as if it should be some big secret. No one is going to be changing the medal criteria to cheat in online sessions after all.

[jh6561]

Outta my docs - should be about the same in the code :)

Purple Heart: over 40% medium damage taken by the sub

Bronze Star: 3 ships sunk in one patrol or a DD, CL or larger combatant ship not worthy of a higher award

Silver Star: 6 ships sunk in one patrol or a CVE or CA sunk

Navy Cross: 8 ships sunk in one patrol or a BB or CV

CMOH: 6 ships sunk in the same engagement (checks for 24 h timeframe) or 2 of the following BB, CV, CVE







If it's not too much trouble to ask, what would the requirements be for the Distinguished Service Medal, or whatever butchered name it has been given?

[jazzabilly]

I picked up a CMOH for wiping out a convoy of fishing boats and 2 merch's.

I tried to give it back, but the game won't let me....

[gimpy117]

Actually, I got the CMOH last night. I was going "What the F*CK did I do to earn that????"

Was only my second patrol, to East China Sea, and scored my 1st kills on that patrol. Total kills:

7 merchants
1 warship (DD)
Tonnage: 36,599

Only completed 1 of 2 mission requirements:

1) Deploy to East China Sea (Complete)
2) Engage and destroy enemy merchant shipping (Incomplete)

Naturally I was suprised to get the CMOH, a Bronze Star might have been more in order! (if even that much...)

Who knows, it must be totally random and I just got lucky and hit the jackpot???

DH
what!!! I got the distinguished cross for over 100,000 tons 2 carriers, 6 or so merchants, 3 of 4 ocean liners etc. with all of my objectives what gives!!!

[eljeffo41]

A man won't give you his life,but he will sell it to you for a piece of colored ribbon!

[ancient46]

The little bits of ribbon I wore on my dress uniforms, like the Vietnam combat ribbons, and Presidential Unit Citation, came in handy when I moved to duty on a Destroyer in the Atlantic Fleet. Every time we had an inspection by the Captain or visiting higher-ups, the only thing they closely examined were those ribbons. Once they saw them they kept walking to the next guy.

[Platapus]

and i sunk 7 :arrgh!:

Were they fishing boats? :har: :har: :har:

In my current career (1.5+RFB) I am over 70,000 tons and I, as the captain have not received one single award.

My crew seems to be getting Bronze Stars and Com. Medals out the wazoo (sister ship to the Wahoo) but no lovin for the Old Man. :wah:

Ah well, as long as the troops are being taken care of, that's what's important.

[Max2147]

and i sunk 7 :arrgh!:
Were they fishing boats? :har: :har: :har:

In my current career (1.5+RFB) I am over 70,000 tons and I, as the captain have not received one single award.

My crew seems to be getting Bronze Stars and Com. Medals out the wazoo (sister ship to the Wahoo) but no lovin for the Old Man. :wah:

Ah well, as long as the troops are being taken care of, that's what's important.
I had a similar situation. My crews were getting Bronze and Silver Stars like crazy on my first few patrols, while I didn't get anything except for a new boat.

On my first patrol in the new boat I sank 8 merchants. It was pure luck - I encountered most of them while I was in transit from one patrol area to another, and they were all sailing alone. But when I got back I had a Medal of Honor waiting for me. Oddly enough my crew only got a trio of Bronze Stars - far below what they'd gotten on my previous successful patrols.

[Stealhead]

I thought Sh4 had a sort of "random" award system I got an MOH once in stock 1.5 after 3 20000 ton patrols in a row. Now that I play TMO163 or RFB depending on my mood I have yet to get an MOH and I dont think you should be able to. I dont hink it should be very easy most skippers that got one died like the one that stayed on the bridge after being mortaly wounded by fire and gave commands via intercom and closed the hatch for the other men the MOH is given to someone who goes far above and beyond the call of duty at great personal risk to save his fellow soliders/sailors and/or causes great harm to the enemy and Fluckey got one for just completey kicking ass on that one patrol if you read the book the Japanese thought that was a combined warship and bomber raid not just one sub! But most often the Moh is given for the first reason. There was an Air Force A-1 Skyraider pilot in Vietnam and he got one when his wingman got shot down over a South Vietnamese army base that was being over run this guy turned back and strafed the enemy postions with the 4 20mms on his spad then landed on a near by road and ran over and pulled the other airman out of his crashed spad. He got the MOH becasue he took a great personal risk for he had no way to even know if the other airman was still alive but he did not want to let a comrade down. Like wise for many Korean War MOH holders(I dont consider any military award as something one "wins" I earned every medal related ribbon that I wore in Air Force) many of these guys willingly stayed behind at a postion to delay the bad guys so that their unit could regroup at the cost of their own lives. Other men earned the MOH by protecting other men there where several medics and navy corpmen who used thier own bodies to protect injured men. there was a black army medic in nam that got shot 4 times during a battle but refused to leave his unit he saved several men and many of his fellow soliders said that if it had not been for his fortitude and encouragement that the NVA would have overwhealmed them. Just my thoughts I dont think such a high honor should even be in a game to be honest. Most MOH recipiants arent superman or Rambos they where just normal men did something extraordinary its a thing like something came over them and empowered them like Moses or David I guess it doesnt happen everyday. And for the record it is the Congressional Medal of Honor they are approved by congress not the President and as I said befroe you dont 'win" a medal it is an honor to show ones service and for other military members to respect but they are not "won" anyone who thinks so needs to show better respect towards military tradtions and ethics. The same would go the Commonwealths VC.

[mrmsje]

The best way to get the MoH is to come back to port after you've accomplished your patrol mission AND completed any additional orders you get while on patrol AND come back all beat up.

You ain't gonna get the MoH if you haven't taken some damage. If you do and your sub and crew are undamaged, then you got lucky I guess.

I came back from the first patrol with over 400k tonnage sunk (40 merchants and 27 warships + countless aircraft...not counting the merchants and warships I sunk in a dozen harbors off Honshu Island) but only got the Medal of Victory, or some such thing, because my sub and crew were unhurt.

Take that back...the deck gun was under repair, but I guess that doesn't count.

BTW, I learned from another skipper that you must complete 48 hours around your patrol "Yellow Star" for it to turn Grey, the signal you've completed your mission priority.

Another BTW: Yes, I did get all those above figures with a little help from my engineering friends and a big help from my fortune held in off shore bank accounts, which means I had my buddies build a rapid fire cannon AND another first-of-its-kind Mini-Gun (AA gun) lethal to any Japanese pilot fool enough to get anywhere near my boat.

Last BTW: To take some damage that won't sink your boat, stay on the surface and at 0 knots when under attack by planes. Tell your gunner to hold fire until you've taken a few hits or a few crew members have been killed. Then let him open up. You don't want to let the planes sink you, of course.

Welcome home, Vets!

[cdrsubron7]

Welcome aboard, mrmsje. Happy to have you with us. :salute:

[Mios 4Me]

Damage is not necessary in stock 1.5 for the MOH, just sufficient tonnage. I've gotten it on 23/24 patrols; the 24th was abbreviated to reach the Philippine Sea in time for a record haul. I find GFO's approach in this regard to be more realistic and satisfying, though I never scored a MOH in that mod, no matter how hard i tried.

[KaleunMarco]

Damage is not necessary in stock 1.5 for the MOH, just sufficient tonnage. I've gotten it on 23/24 patrols; the 24th was abbreviated to reach the Philippine Sea in time for a record haul. I find GFO's approach in this regard to be more realistic and satisfying, though I never scored a MOH in that mod, no matter how hard i tried.

a "successful" mission (3 career pts) is all about renown which IS related to tonnage or at least the quantity/number of kills. medals are a different beast.

in my experience, tonnage is not the only requirement for a medal/award. Some combination of these accomplishments will determine your award/medal. i have never seen the algorithm for an award/medal, only for a successful mission. i have some truly outstanding patrols with obscene renown and number of ships sunk but did not receive the highest award available. i think it was because i had only 1 completed objective and/or my patrol duration was less than 7 days.


renown from sinking ships
number of ships sunk
largest tonnage of ships sunk
number of "completed" objectives
renown from "completed" objectives
duration of patrol

[yvanehtnioj]

Howdy everyone!

So first, background context: I'm relatively inexperienced with sub sims, this is probably my 2nd patrol in SH4, maybe somewhere <10 patrols between SH2-4 over my entire life so far. I'm playing SH4 stock v1.5. Playing with realism of 52 (everything is ON except 'manual targeting', 'no map contact update', 'no external view', 'no event camera', and 'no stabilize view'). I started on Dec 7 1941 and just finished my first patrol when my Sargo class returned to Surabaya on 01/08/1942.

I come back and discover I won the Medal of Honor. :o

My objectives over the patrol's course: Troop insertion, Patrol Luzon Strait, Deploy to Luzon Strait and sink merchant shipping, Patrol South China Sea (while en route reported a troop ship and got obj to sink it. I received no damage whatsoever.

I sunk a total of 18 ships over the course of the patrol - five destroyers initially in Luzon Strait and then various shipping in the SCS (or en route to SCS) and others while heading home. I sunk 72,097 tons and was awarded about 4190 renown (give or take a few hundred). I figured it was an OK run but didn't expect to see the MoH.

I guess it's a mixture of all those destroyers and objectives, but I wouldn't have figured it'd be MoH worthy.

[KaleunMarco]

Howdy everyone!

So first, background context: I'm relatively inexperienced with sub sims, this is probably my 2nd patrol in SH4, maybe somewhere <10 patrols between SH2-4 over my entire life so far. I'm playing SH4 stock v1.5. Playing with realism of 52 (everything is ON except 'manual targeting', 'no map contact update', 'no external view', 'no event camera', and 'no stabilize view'). I started on Dec 7 1941 and just finished my first patrol when my Sargo class returned to Surabaya on 01/08/1942.

I come back and discover I won the Medal of Honor. :o

My objectives over the patrol's course: Troop insertion, Patrol Luzon Strait, Deploy to Luzon Strait and sink merchant shipping, Patrol South China Sea (while en route reported a troop ship and got obj to sink it. I received no damage whatsoever.

I sunk a total of 18 ships over the course of the patrol - five destroyers initially in Luzon Strait and then various shipping in the SCS (or en route to SCS) and others while heading home. I sunk 72,097 tons and was awarded about 4190 renown (give or take a few hundred). I figured it was an OK run but didn't expect to see the MoH.

I guess it's a mixture of all those destroyers and objectives, but I wouldn't have figured it'd be MoH worthy.
how many completed objectives did you have in addition to the 72K tonnage?

[yvanehtnioj]

Troop insertion
Patrol Luzon Strait
Deploy to Luzon Strait
and sink enemy merchant shipping
Patrol South China Sea
Destroy troop transports


Five or six. Five if the game doesn't consider 'sink enemy merchant shipping' a sub-objective of 'Deploy to Luzon Strait. Both had their own Complete/Incomplete listings so I don't know how that figures into the programming. :hmmm: I really should have taken screens of it all right before I turned into port. I can take screenshots of the list of ships sunk, the date, and the MoH itself though. I'm still surprised I got it. It feels sort of anti-climactic, honestly.

[KaleunMarco]

Troop insertion
Patrol Luzon Strait
Deploy to Luzon Strait
and sink enemy merchant shipping
Patrol South China Sea
Destroy troop transports


Five or six. Five if the game doesn't consider 'sink enemy merchant shipping' a sub-objective of 'Deploy to Luzon Strait. Both had their own Complete/Incomplete listings so I don't know how that figures into the programming. :hmmm: I really should have taken screens of it all right before I turned into port. I can take screenshots of the list of ships sunk, the date, and the MoH itself though. I'm still surprised I got it. It feels sort of anti-climactic, honestly.
yep, that'll do it.
usually 4 completed objectives and 5 figures of tonnage will earn you the top award.
i say "top award" because some mega-mods re-work the medals such that the highest award is the Navy Cross.

don't sweat it. awards are really meaningless as far as gameplay is concerned. you and your crew gain nothing by accumulating awards.