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Platapus
04-02-07, 07:50 PM
It is July 1940 and I have discovered that once again I had been unwise.

I spent a lot of renown trickin out my VIIB. Engines, batteries, hydrophone, wetbar, jacuzzi, primo sound system 1400 renown (I got a good deal from fritz)

But now I have enough renown to upgrade to the new 1940 model VIIC (the one with the white wall tyres) but my extra stuff does not transfer :(

What ever shall I do?

Is it reasonble to complete this war in a VIIB?

Should I hold on to my classic VIIB until 1943 and get the VIIC/41?

With the execption of the VIIC conning towers, can all the other upgrades fit in my VIIB? Or will I need to get the VIIC to get the cool toys?

And no, I have no interest in the IX.

Chicks dig the 7 nuff said

So upgrade to the VIIC or keep the tricked out VIIB?

Wadda think?

Deathfrombelow23
04-02-07, 09:10 PM
Keep the VII-B. The VII B actually has a slightly greater underwater range and its speed submerged is slightly higher. Think about it like this... if you had gotten a real VII-B in the war and were sucessful with it, and the boat was still fit for sea... why would you need a VII-C? The only thing is... later in the war you can't get the AA firewpower with the VII-B that you can with the C. :rock:

TarJak
04-02-07, 10:13 PM
If you are going well hang on to it until the VIIC/41 comes along.

Genferret
04-02-07, 11:15 PM
Keep the VII-B. The VII B actually has a slightly greater underwater range and its speed submerged is slightly higher. Think about it like this... if you had gotten a real VII-B in the war and were sucessful with it, and the boat was still fit for sea... why would you need a VII-C? The only thing is... later in the war you can't get the AA firewpower with the VII-B that you can with the C. :rock:

Which imho makes you less likely to go suicidal and take on planes, especially if you're running GWX.

Mooncatt
04-03-07, 04:03 AM
i gotta admit i am a IXB fan but i do love the VIIB too, if i knew then what i know now i wouldve stayed with the VIIB

Mush Martin
04-03-07, 04:29 AM
Im with mooncat on this one although im frequently seen on frankenboot

when I campaign I use VIIB then IXB and assuming we make it
that far a XXI at the end just for the experience.

MM

Steel_Tomb
04-03-07, 05:29 AM
Same here I'm still in my VIIB in '42 its quicker, and when your slow anyway that makes a difference, IIRC it dives slightly quicker too. The extra AA gun is pretty worthless anyway, because I don't really plan on taking on aircraft because if your shooting at planes in GWX you might aswell just abadon ship lol.

Platapus
04-03-07, 07:33 AM
As I posted in my "lessons learned" thread, even in 1940 I learned the hard way about the risks of taking on a pair of fighter bombers (lost a good crewman :cry: )

Thanks for all the advice. I think I will stay with my VIIB.

Historically was it common for a Captain to stay with the same boat?

AVGWarhawk
04-03-07, 07:54 AM
Wait for an IX boat;)

Platapus
04-03-07, 10:06 AM
See subject line

Because I play "mostly" realistically (80%) and I can't stand the unreasonable patrol zones given me (Western Africa from Willhelmshaven?) I always have limited fuel turned off.

If I were good enough to play 100% realism I could see the extra range of the IX being attractive. But other than the increased range does not the size and the slower dive speed have more of a disadvantage?

Probably not as I know many much more experienced captians than I love the IX.

So to you smart guys, what do you like about the IX besides the increased range?

AVGWarhawk
04-03-07, 10:09 AM
See subject line

Because I play "mostly" realistically (80%) and I can't stand the unreasonable patrol zones given me (Eastern Africa from Willhelmshaven?) I always have limited fuel turned off.

If I were good enough to play 100% realism I could see the extra range of the IX being attractive. But other than the increased range does not the size and the slower dive speed have more of a disadvantage?

Probably not as I know many much more experienced captians than I love the IX.

So to you smart guys, what do you like about the IX besides the increased range?

Lots of torpedoes.

gord96
04-03-07, 10:44 AM
does the interior of the IX boats look different then the VII boats?

Genferret
04-03-07, 11:00 AM
See subject line

Because I play "mostly" realistically (80%) and I can't stand the unreasonable patrol zones given me (Eastern Africa from Willhelmshaven?) I always have limited fuel turned off.

If I were good enough to play 100% realism I could see the extra range of the IX being attractive. But other than the increased range does not the size and the slower dive speed have more of a disadvantage?

Probably not as I know many much more experienced captians than I love the IX.

So to you smart guys, what do you like about the IX besides the increased range?

I usually wait until later in the war to pick it up, but what's nice about it beyond the range is the extra eels you carry both inside and externally both front and back. You also have 2 tubes in the back which offers up more options for shooting out the aft other than that 1 torp to finish someone off that I usually use the VIIBs aft tube for.

fastfed
04-03-07, 11:47 AM
I got the viib,went from the type iib, I am waiting for the ix boat..

xlbob
04-04-07, 12:55 AM
See subject line

Because I play "mostly" realistically (80%) and I can't stand the unreasonable patrol zones given me (Eastern Africa from Willhelmshaven?) I always have limited fuel turned off.

If I were good enough to play 100% realism I could see the extra range of the IX being attractive. But other than the increased range does not the size and the slower dive speed have more of a disadvantage?

Probably not as I know many much more experienced captians than I love the IX.

So to you smart guys, what do you like about the IX besides the increased range?

Lots of torpedoes.


Yes what he said. More torps:up:

With 21 torps type IXB carries, 100k per patrol is easier to reach than type VII :D

If on average you need two torps to sink a ship, all you have to do is find 10 large merchants, tankers or cargos and you get 100K+. I have two 100k+ patrols in my current career. With enough torps, it's not difficult.

Having said all that I will try type VII the next time, and see if I can bag 100K patrol.