The S-Boats...

[woofiedog]

A web site about the S-Boats... that has some photo's and etc. :)

http://www.rddesigns.com/subs/37guna1.jpg

Link: http://www.rddesigns.com/subs/s-boats3.html

Also a story of the USS 31 during WWII...

Link: http://www.usna.com/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?&pid=1766&srcid=502 (http://www.usna.com/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?&pid=1766&srcid=502)

[fire-fox]

nise find woofie

[woofiedog]

fire-fox... Thank's

http://www.rddesigns.com/subs/197-2-a.jpg

Link for the Fleet Boats: http://www.rddesigns.com/subs/fleet.html

http://www.rddesigns.com/subs/v-5-1.jpg
USS Narwhal SS 167 (ex-V-5) in heavy seas. circa 1930's

V-Boat link: http://www.rddesigns.com/subs/v-boats.html

[pythos]

With what little research I have done on these boats, I come to this preliminary conclusion.

The S-boat to most extents is an inferior version of the German type VII. The similarities being, they are both boats with exposed pressure hulls, partially covered by a streamlined outer shell. They have four forward tubes, and a deck gun. Their towers are almost identical at the front, though the S- boat's is longer. But both towers are of the open chariot style. Both are fairly narrow, and have a very narrow upper deck, excepting the area of the deck gun mount. Both are pretty much the same length, and width, and the crew compliment is almost the same.

The type VII was actually a bit faster both above and under water, and had more range

All german subs, it would seem could safetly dive deeper than most of the american and british subs. (safety depth for the VII is 90 meters, or 295 feet, several tens of feet more than the point allied subs were taking really bad pressure damage.

The Type VII had a stern tube, which the S-boat lacks.

The German boats, from the outset had AA armament. S-boats got a very flimsy and improvised add on "cigarette deck" added on late in their long existance.

Considering the boat I am currently driving was historically built in the 1920s, I'd say the S-boat is actually quite an amazing little boat, and very venerable, most of the ones in training lasted almost to the early fities.

You all should check out the info on these little known boats.

[Charos]

Link http://www.valoratsea.com/Sclass1.htm

Notice the addition on a rear tube from S-11 onwards and 14 Torpedo's not 12.

The weight and dimensions of the S-Class are more like a Type IX-B Uboat Displacement submerged, Length, Beam and Draft are similar.


Who needs a fancy fleetboat and one of those new electronic slide rules?
Nothing a S-boat, pencil and paper cant handle. :arrgh!:

Like to see you fleet boat fellows put YOUR TDC in your pocket when you get back to port. :rotfl:

[-Pv-]

Those rough weather pics of the S35 is what I'd like to see better done in SH4.
-Pv-

[Crosseye76]

Very nice find. Thanks ! :D

[Camaero]

With what little research I have done on these boats, I come to this preliminary conclusion.

The S-boat to most extents is an inferior version of the German type VII. The similarities being, they are both boats with exposed pressure hulls, partially covered by a streamlined outer shell. They have four forward tubes, and a deck gun. Their towers are almost identical at the front, though the S- boat's is longer. But both towers are of the open chariot style. Both are fairly narrow, and have a very narrow upper deck, excepting the area of the deck gun mount. Both are pretty much the same length, and width, and the crew compliment is almost the same.

The type VII was actually a bit faster both above and under water, and had more range

All german subs, it would seem could safetly dive deeper than most of the american and british subs. (safety depth for the VII is 90 meters, or 295 feet, several tens of feet more than the point allied subs were taking really bad pressure damage.

The Type VII had a stern tube, which the S-boat lacks.

The German boats, from the outset had AA armament. S-boats got a very flimsy and improvised add on "cigarette deck" added on late in their long existance.

Considering the boat I am currently driving was historically built in the 1920s, I'd say the S-boat is actually quite an amazing little boat, and very venerable, most of the ones in training lasted almost to the early fities.

You all should check out the info on these little known boats.

Good information! :up:

[Charos]

That whole rear tube addition looks to be incorrect.

Silly interweb. :x

[flintlock]

S-Boats are sexy!

[Hanzo]

Nice find!

I was assigned the S-35 in the campaign. Nice seeing some 'real' pictures of the boat I've been commandeering virtually for the past two weeks :D

Here she is in-game:
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4535/myshipvw2.jpg


- Captain Hanzo

[Sailor Steve]

Notice the addition on a rear tube from S-11 onwards and 14 Torpedo's not 12.
Those listings are wrong. The only boats to have the rear tube were S-48 through S-51, and they never saw combat.
http://www.hazegray.org/danfs/submar/

And the plural of torpedo is torpedoes, not torpedo's.

[elanaiba]

I think the listings on valor at sea are based on .... SH1....

[Tigrone]

I just saw a great movie on TCM, which used S-boats throughout. It's Hell Below, 1933, with Walter Houston and Robert Montgomery. It's an old style Hollywood war story set in World War I, but it is shot entirely on an S-boat. The sea and interior scenes are wonderful. It you want to get a real feel for what an S-boat is like, this is the way to do it.

[Charos]

Notice the addition on a rear tube from S-11 onwards and 14 Torpedo's not 12. Those listings are wrong. The only boats to have the rear tube were S-48 through S-51, and they never saw combat.
http://www.hazegray.org/danfs/submar/

And the plural of torpedo is torpedoes, not torpedo's.

Nice link with good info there, as I thought something was amiss with the other link.

Im now going with torˈpedoes :know: But I im not shore where I will be storing all these female deer until we fire them at the enemy. :hmm:

[MadMike]

"Hell Below" (1933) was an interesting flick, notice how fast they jumped on the deck gun when surfaced and how quickly a torpedo was loaded?
The war patrols of the S-boats would be quite a flick (Wolfgang Petersen, are you listening?). :rock:

Yours, Mike

[Crosseye76]

I just saw a great movie on TCM, which used S-boats throughout. It's Hell Below, 1933, with Walter Houston and Robert Montgomery. It's an old style Hollywood war story set in World War I, but it is shot entirely on an S-boat. The sea and interior scenes are wonderful. It you want to get a real feel for what an S-boat is like, this is the way to do it.


A GREAT movie ! :rock:

[Sailor Steve]

[Im now going with torˈpedoes :know: But I im not shore where I will be storing all these female deer until we fire them at the enemy. :hmm:
:rotfl: :up:

[Gildor]

I watched a bit of it. it was very interesting. I didn't think the Captain did the right thing however. He stayed on the surface too long when the enemy aircraft appeared. I realise he had a boat with crew on the surface but he should have submerged and left them to come back later. At least that is what i would have done.