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cardician
03-27-07, 05:20 PM
Ok, so I'm starting in Wilhelmshaven I believe it is and its 1939. I have a IIA class sub. My first patrol, no problem. Sink a C2 for 6,500 tons, make it back with no issues.

Second patrol, they send me all the way to AF83 or something, west of Bergen basically. It's so far that by the time I get there and patrol for 24 hours, no way I can make it back. Plus, since Norway is still neutral, I only see neutral ships. Ok...so my tonnage is 0. Plus I have to dock at Bergen.

Third patrol, somehow I'm back in Wilhelmshaven and this time they want me to go to sector AN21 which is WAY NE of England. Basically around 1200nm. Well thats practically the range of my little IIA. What the heck? I don't even know if I'd have enough fuel to make it to Bergen from there and its the closest friendly port. What gives? Anyone?

Also, something I thought was odd. I immediately docked without even turning the engines on. What happens? I received two personal medals. Guess my 3rd patrol with 0 tonnage was so impressive they awarded me two commendations. Those germans are something...:hmm:

Foghladh_mhara
03-27-07, 06:38 PM
You want to keep an eye on your speed. Dont know off the top of my head what the range of a IIA is but I know its way more than 1200 nm. Make sure you're running at ahead 1/3 and not flank speed or something

cardician
03-27-07, 06:59 PM
Travel at 1/3? That's crazy. I thought that's why it was called Ahead Standard? Because it was the standard speed of travel.

Anyway, I don't recall the exact distance but the game gives you a range when you examine the different subs. I think it was actually 1700nm or something to get to the sector. Regardless, it would have left me out of fuel to get to any port anywhere.

Foghladh_mhara
03-27-07, 07:40 PM
Well i've never sailed in a type II being a type VII sailor myself :D The ranges given though are prob for a surfaced speed of, say 8 or 9 knots. If you drop your speed a couple of knots below that the range will increase a bit. In the navigator panel you can ask the range at current speed, go up or down a knot and see whats the optimal. I found out a few days ago (cheers Mort!) that when I was running at 10 knots in my VII the average range was about 15000 nm with a full tank., when I dropped down to 8 knots it increased to about 21000!

NightCrawler
03-28-07, 03:39 AM
Type II are gas-slurped uboots, you will be forced to sail 1/3 ahead(3 or 4 knots) surface...

If you do, you can with the II type all the way to AM53 and back to base.
I tried that, and i maded...

But personly i like the VII class better, for me it's not about the "more fuel", for me it's "more torpedoes" & "Deck-gun"...
So i always start with career in Wilhelms haven...

Even my first mission was from Wihelmshaven to Grid CF and back without refueling :D
Thats what i called "saving fuel" and when i was in Wilhelmshaven i have 25% fuel left..

cardician
03-28-07, 04:23 AM
Gotcha. Guess I'll have to look into ahead 1/3 and liberal use of time compression. :D

Yeah, the II class is a relic. 3 torpedoes bays is crazy, but it makes it feel like I'm really starting at the beginning. I definitely want to upgrade though.

Brag
03-28-07, 10:04 AM
In a type II, you really need to be a fuel miser. Even short dashes at 10 kts chasing a rarget can deplete you enough to make the retun problematic. I always managed to get back with around 10% fuel left (even to Kiel) :smug:

danurve
03-28-07, 10:12 AM
Can you switch to a type IID? They are good little boats with saddle tanks and have around 3x(?) the range of a IIA.

Wilcke
03-28-07, 10:35 AM
If you really want to try the Type II, which I like by the way. Start your career via SH3 Commander and preselect your port and patrol area. Last night I was testing a new mod and started a career in 09/1940 with a type IID.

Great fun, its wearing Fubars IID skin, camo style, looks great. I have SH Weather going and we are now in a raging gale and you should see that little boat pitch up and down all over the ocean....talk about sea sick.

The Type II is fun for short patrols and coastal work. Type VII is a great weapon! But you can enjoy both!

Good luck Kaleun!

Wilcke out!

Platapus
03-28-07, 11:02 AM
I guess I am a low down cheater :o but when I get crazy long distance missions, I adjust the reality settings to give me unlimited fuel.

Sure that makes me pond scum but I hate getting missions down the leg of Africa and have to worry about gas.:nope:

NightCrawler
03-31-07, 03:31 AM
I guess I am a low down cheater :o but when I get crazy long distance missions, I adjust the reality settings to give me unlimited fuel.

Sure that makes me pond scum but I hate getting missions down the leg of Africa and have to worry about gas.:nope:

When i bought SHII i use "unlimited fuel" also....
Later on the game i switch to "limited fuel", because it make more mision points...

Now in SHIII, when i start with new career, i selected realistic at 65%

On the other hands, you have to trust more the instrument, and check the max range when you sail at 1/3 ahead just ask the officer and he will calculate the max range in tonnage diesel for you..

And dont be afraid, when you see a fat ship at 6km, you can put all ahead flank to chase that ship, and shoot/torp him...
As long that ship sails slower than you...


Another gas-saver option is, dive at day, and surface and night to charge the batteries...
And when you in dive mode during the day, and the water is calm, and the sonarguy alarm there is a ship closing in, you can surface the uboot to use the deckgun, after target has been destroyed, dive again, till the redlight will pop-up, than it's time to surface to charge the batteries again...
You will see, it save allot of diesel the way i do it...
specialy with a AII class uboot...
Thats the main reason that i can reach the AM52 and back...
and still have 25% diesel left...
Good luck...

Mooncatt
03-31-07, 04:16 AM
i think the best speed is 9knts this gives max range. oh btw sorry for the black writing no matter how many times i click white it wont change :nope:
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Crazy Ian
03-31-07, 02:45 PM
This sounds very very interesting.. I've never played with a Type II (with the exception of multiplayer LAN where I can get a higher score than my arcade-style playing mates in XXI's..

After this war I'm doing in the Type VIIB I think I may have to do one last stock Silent Hunter III career in a type II.. Anyone else man enough? :D