Are missions supposed to last so long time?

[martin1004]

OK my 1st patrol , almost successful (48 000 tons but out of torps-many duds), takes too much time.my mission is to to go patrol in a high enemy activity area. i went to the binucular logo and patrolled there for a day, another day, another, and another...still nothing...i can't seem to finish the mission objective. any help please?
BTW im a huge fan of SH4 just got it today and i love every single thing about it.the bugs dont bug me

[Gildor]

Keep HQ informed of your status. Send regular status reports back to HQ.

Search patrols last 48hrs and destroy missions have minimum tonnage required.

[hmatthias]

I am still hesitent to send contact reports from my SH3 days. Always afraid of the dreaded "Be More Aggressive" message... I'll have to start doing this in SH4.

[darkfin]

I am still hesitent to send contact reports from my SH3 days. Always afraid of the dreaded "Be More Aggressive" message... I'll have to start doing this in SH4.

Is there any other way to send report without opening that darn clipboard? Takes forever to open it.

[Gildor]

I am still hesitent to send contact reports from my SH3 days. Always afraid of the dreaded "Be More Aggressive" message... I'll have to start doing this in SH4.
Is there any other way to send report without opening that darn clipboard? Takes forever to open it.

Thats because you have a large amount of contact data in the message log. Do the change to your contact range file so that you only get info for close contacts (like 250nm) and you will not get the message log filled up.

Here is a link to the thread telling you how: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=108959

[darkfin]

Thanks Gildor!

[Seadogs]

While were on contact reports, what is the criteria needed for sending a contact report? I've only been able to send one before which got the reply to engage escorts. Really cool.

However since then no matter how close I am to a convoy nothing happens when I try to send a contact report. Status reports are sent fine.

Whats the low down?

[Gildor]

I think the only requirement is that it be in visual sight in order for the contact report to be sent.

[AVGWarhawk]

I think the only requirement is that it be in visual sight in order for the contact report to be sent.

:yep:

[Seadogs]

I think the only requirement is that it be in visual sight in order for the contact report to be sent.

Hmm, something was fishy because last time I had a clear visuall on the escort and half the convoy. Something must have been borked. All well, no worries if it's an intermitent thing.

[walsh2509]

I have done 6 mission so far, and apart from 1 were I never reached my patrol area (star) used all my torps. I went back to WM and topped up, out again still never made it to the PA, but sunk more ships, 76,000+tn, I went back to PH and just docked I had been away about 3 months.

On average, I go from PH to MW on Flank, then its 1/3 all the way to Japan. This take on average from PH to Patrol Area, 17days + 17days return leg, I usual patol for about 2 to 3 weeks. In all on average (no back to MW for top up) I am away anything from 48 to 55 days.

[fastfed]

48000 TONS IN ONE PATROL!!! LMAO!!!

Jesus!!

[DirtyHarry3033]

48000 TONS IN ONE PATROL!!! LMAO!!!

Jesus!!
Yeah, it's crazy. I got 36,599 tons on my 2nd patrol from Pearl to East China Sea. Had 2 objectives:

Deploy to East China Sea - Complete
Engage and destroy enemy merchant shipping - Incomplete

Results were:

Merchant ships sunk: 7
Warships sunk: 1
Total Tonnage: 36,599

I thought, "Huh??!?!!" I engaged and destroyed all kinds of merchants but that part was imcomplete??? How many tons do I have to sink???

Can only figure it was because the kills were en route to patrol area, and not IN the patrol area? Fact is, the only contacts I had in the patrol area were 2 DD's that forced me to crash dive 5 or 6 times a day - not a merchant in sight! I'd get radar contact on the DD's, dive, they'd go on about their business and leave, I'd surface then they'd be back in a couple hours - rinse and repeat for 2 freakin days...

Strange thing is though technically I "failed" 1/2 of my mission, I got the CMOH!!! (Actually the "Victory Cross", I'm using the Real Medals 1.01 mod - guess CMOH replaces it?)

DH

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[Gildor]

The sinking part of the Search missions is part 2 of the overal mission.

The first objective is to get within a certain distance if the icon. (It is listed as 150 so I assume that is KMs, so about 80 nm or so)

The second is to sink a certain amount of tonnage. Usually it is 10,000 tons.

I would assume that the 10k tonnage is calculated after the first objective is done.

[DirtyHarry3033]

OK my 1st patrol , almost successful (48 000 tons but out of torps-many duds), takes too much time.my mission is to to go patrol in a high enemy activity area. i went to the binucular logo and patrolled there for a day, another day, another, and another...still nothing...i can't seem to finish the mission objective. any help please?
BTW im a huge fan of SH4 just got it today and i love every single thing about it.the bugs dont bug me
Martin don't hold me to this, but I think I read on here somewhere that if you stray too far from the Binocular icon once you reach it, SH4 "resets" the counter that determines when your patrol is complete.

For instance, if you have to patrol the area for 48 hours and the counter is up to 36 hours (only 12 hours to go) and you then sail too far from the icon, it resets to 0 and you have to start again - sail back to the icon and patrol another 48 hours. Don't remember what the distance was, maybe 50 or 100 miles.

Like I said, maybe I'm getting confused with something else? But I think that's what I read. Wouldn't hurt to draw a 50 mile radius circle around the patrol area with the compass then stay inside that circle for 48 hours. See if the mission ends after 2 days.

DH

[DirtyHarry3033]

The sinking part of the Search missions is part 2 of the overal mission.

The first objective is to get within a certain distance if the icon. (It is listed as 150 so I assume that is KMs, so about 80 nm or so)

The second is to sink a certain amount of tonnage. Usually it is 10,000 tons.

I would assume that the 10k tonnage is calculated after the first objective is done.

Hmm, OK thanks Gildor. Guess that makes sense, at least from the viewpoint of a bureaucracy.

I didn't sink any ships when RTB, was low on torps and only 2 likely merchant contacts, both at night and in a rainstorm so heavy I couldn't even ID the target much less get a solution :( Several convoys reported, but far enough away I didn't have the fuel to make the run and still get back to Midway.

I guess then to maximize Renown one should ignore most targets of opportunity until the "Patrol" part is complete, and save the fish for Part 2?

DH

[Javelin]

Manila base captured by enemy, so I head for Midway. Get there not allowed to end mission just to refit. I've spent over 48 hrs around the star, sank 25,000 tons of shipping. There are no friendly bases within a 1000 miles. Cannot end mission

[Kweli]

I couldnt end my mission too... Could it be because my home base is Pearl Harbour?

[SteamWake]

What if you patrol the area for 48 hours and spot nothing ?

Send a patrol report anyhow ?

[AVGWarhawk]

Manila base captured by enemy, so I head for Midway. Get there not allowed to end mission just to refit. I've spent over 48 hrs around the star, sank 25,000 tons of shipping. There are no friendly bases within a 1000 miles. Cannot end mission
You can go to Jawa in the south. I did when Manila fell:up: It might be closer.

[jdski]

I was ordered to the East China sea after taking my Photo's in Japan, after I completed that task I was given the objective to sink enemy merchants. I did that then I decieded to head down to that base near Jawa to refit. On the way down I was ordered to go back to the China sea. So I went back there after refiting and sunk some more ships and headed to Midway. Remember to reload your torps before leaving port and then refit again to fill those now empty slots.
I went into Miday Harbor and docked against a bulkhead. When leaving, I was exploring the Island east of Midway on external view, and suddenly I heard a screeching noise like I was dragging bottom or something. THen suddenly my PC shut off.
My graphics became corrupt after this. Not just ingame but post boot as well. So I swapped out my vid card with one I had in stock and all is well for now except a loss in framerates from going from an X850 to an X800.
With the repairs complete, I set out from Midway again and headed back to Pearl. I earned myself a Victory Cross and some medals and promotions for my crew for getting over 100k. I'm using manual tageting but with map updates on.
Now I'm trying to figure out who I want to give all these medals and awards to.
I wish there was better documentation in this area and the overall crew management.

[Quillan]

I finished my first patrol last night. I was ordered to patrol the Marshal Islands because "it was suspected that the Japanese might be using the islands to build up another fleet". I sailed over there from Pearl, got in close to about half the islands in the grouping, found nothing, and eventually headed on to the patrol location. I hung out there for 48 hours, found nothing, then headed on west. I saw a lot of contact reports southwest of Guam and Saipan, so I went to that area and sank a couple of ships. After a bit there, I was down to 55% fuel so I decided to push it a bit and sailed over towards Formosa. Along the way I sent in a status report, and got a new objective with it: Patrol the Luzon Straits.

This area was a lot more active; I had many hydrophone contacts there, even stumbled across a "task force". What a joke; one destroyer and two medium gunboats. I sank the destroyer anyway and sailed off. A number of single and tandem freighters sailed through the area, both large and medium, and at the end I came across another task force composed of a large passenger ship and 4 destroyers. I sank the troop carrier with 2 torps from 5500 yards. In the end I was out of torpedoes and dangerously low on diesel; I had to put in at Midway to refit. I made it back to Pearl on February 12th, 2 months and 2 days after leaving.

As a side note, I got the message "We're out of diesel!" when I was at 4% fuel remaining. The final total was an absolutely insane 56,900 tons of shipping; the sub aces list when I made it back to port only listed two others, the highest of which was just under 10K. About half the ships I sank were either chasing down a radio contact or my air search radar picking up a surface ship and about half were things I picked up on the hydrophones, so even adjusting for the unrealistic targets that way I sank way too much shipping.

On a further side note, the air search radar does detect aircraft, but it displays them as surface contacts. It doesn't seem to work under heavy time compression. The hostile air contacts I got on my way back from Japan were all visual sightings by the watch crew rather than radar contacts, however it picked up the aircraft around Pearl and Midway just fine at 2048x speed.

[FIREWALL]

Why when i've done photo recon then ordered to patrol and sink shipping and sink 28,000 + tons and make status report with said tonnage and 0
torps left no return to base order. So I return to base and being tired I
end patrol and it says I failed to complete mission. WHAT GIVES!!!! :doh: