You guys who play GWX,what realistic settings are you at?

[fastfed]

As some might know I have yet to play GWX and after messing with the horrible SH4, I decided to stick with SH3, but in the meantime I found out about GWX, I will install it this week when I get time from work.

But I always kept my realistic settings at like 58% or something close to that..
I keep the ext. view on, I have the computer do my firing measurments and I have the reload time to be not as long..

Everything else is on realistic ( I think I have the map contact thing off though, or on, which ever is the easier one )

but fuel,damage,air and all the other stuff is on realistic.

I am thinking maybe with this new GWX mod, I should max everything out, I want to feel more like I am in the actual sub than anything, but what do you guys have your settings on? Do you think I should max everything out except maybe the manual targeting? As I really have not much of an Idea on how to do it.

Whats your all opinions?

THANKS

[danlisa]

Everything! except Manual Targeting. That's why I have a weapons officer.;)

The best item to turn off, if you want to simulate real life, is the external views. No event cam or external camera. You won't believe how different the game is with just these two turned off.:arrgh!:

[bigboywooly]

I like to have ext camera on
No point having the eye candy if ya cant see it

[danlisa]

I like to have ext camera on
No point having the eye candy if ya cant see it

duh! OPTICAL scopes:smug:

LMAO

[Kumando]

100% realism plus manual navigation, dont want some wizard calculating 100% accurate firing solutions in one second.

[Foghladh_mhara]

Everything except external camera. Think that comes in at 90% or something although I am thinking of turning off the Dud torpedo function again. External camera stays though.
Me like watch ship go BOOM:D

[fastfed]

Everything! except Manual Targeting. That's why I have a weapons officer.;)

The best item to turn off, if you want to simulate real life, is the external views. No event cam or external camera. You won't believe how different the game is with just these two turned off.:arrgh!:

You know what.... You're right!! I always thought I should learn to shoot myself, though it would be cool, but there is a weapons officer..

I am going to start a career with those settings, EVERYTHING except the manual shooting..

BTW can you recommend me a year and place to start with GWX when I get it? I would like to start at a year that would be give me a low class sub and than within time move up to like a IV or something..

[Kumando]

Everything! except Manual Targeting. That's why I have a weapons officer.;)

The best item to turn off, if you want to simulate real life, is the external views. No event cam or external camera. You won't believe how different the game is with just these two turned off.:arrgh!:

You know what.... You're right!! I always thought I should learn to shoot myself, though it would be cool, but there is a weapons officer..

I am going to start a career with those settings, EVERYTHING except the manual shooting..

BTW can you recommend me a year and place to start with GWX when I get it? I would like to start at a year that would be give me a low class sub and than within time move up to like a IV or something..

Learn to play with manual targeting, auto gives you no satisfaction on your kill its just point and shoot, whats the fun of that?

[danlisa]

BTW can you recommend me a year and place to start with GWX when I get it? I would like to start at a year that would be give me a low class sub and than within time move up to like a IV or something..
Start at the begining of the war in Kiel & choose the Type 2.

Kiel is an awesome place to start, probably the most active port & you have the Kiel Canal to try out.

[HunterICX]

94%

WO assistance on
(DD/Escort purposes only)

merchants I do manual to improve my targeting

[IceGrog]

I like to have ext camera on
No point having the eye candy if ya cant see it
yes me too
i think mine is 82%

[gord96]

hehe. i play at 23%. I just play for fun :)

[melnibonian]

Everything is ticked except manual targeting, wepons officer assistance and external camera.

[danlisa]

Everything is ticked except manual targeting, wepons officer assistance and external camera.

Of course, we still get full renown!;)

[Gedscho]

i think mines at 82%.

everything checked, except the external camera (eye candy, but yeah i sometimes use it to cheat > i look at the flags :oops: but hey, a monitor has a much smaller resolution than a retina, so its only fair), i have my WO ready and enabled, in case i need him (for instance i DONT find it interesting going throught the book to identify the contact.)

Yet, there is one thing that bugs me:
i have Manual targetting selected, and still, the torpedo solutions are updated all the time ?!? (in the according screen with all the nifty dials)

[Morts]

out of my 2 careers
1 is 100% realisk
and the other is around 60%

[fastfed]

BTW can you recommend me a year and place to start with GWX when I get it? I would like to start at a year that would be give me a low class sub and than within time move up to like a IV or something..
Start at the begining of the war in Kiel & choose the Type 2.

Kiel is an awesome place to start, probably the most active port & you have the Kiel Canal to try out.

THANKS!! Will I be able to upgrade my sub as normal if I start in the beginning?

I am kinda excited to know that you use the auto targeting and still hve the feeling of being in the actual sub.

[melnibonian]

Everything is ticked except manual targeting, wepons officer assistance and external camera.

Of course, we still get full renown!;)
Indeed ;) :D :up:

[danlisa]

THANKS!! Will I be able to upgrade my sub as normal if I start in the beginning?

I am kinda excited to know that you use the auto targeting and still hve the feeling of being in the actual sub.

Upgrades will come in time as usual.:yep:

However there are ways to ensure you get the upgrades when they are available.

I have told you start at the beginning because that's the happy times, you need to use this time to increase your crew experience and renown, do this before the end of 1942.;)

[minute]

80% here, automatic targetting and external camera. Thinking to switch to manual targetting but it just takes so much practice and SH3 loads so slow...:damn:

[Penelope_Grey]

I play at 52%, half n half. I have all thebasics, dud torps, limited fuel batteries compressed air oxygen. Realistic repair, sensors and reloads.

Im not an uber realism nut, to Kumando who says where is the fun in auto targeting, I say, there is lots of fun, it takes an enormous amount of pressure off you the player giving you more time to actually do what the whole point of the game is, sink ships. I didn't get into silent hunter just to twiddle dials on a HUD. I got into it because I wanted to be the captain, and I wanted to experience WW2 in an enjoyable situation.

[Kumando]

I play at 52%, half n half. I have all thebasics, dud torps, limited fuel batteries compressed air oxygen. Realistic repair, sensors and reloads.

Im not an uber realism nut, to Kumando who says where is the fun in auto targeting, I say, there is lots of fun, it takes an enormous amount of pressure off you the player giving you more time to actually do what the whole point of the game is, sink ships. I didn't get into silent hunter just to twiddle dials on a HUD. I got into it because I wanted to be the captain, and I wanted to experience WW2 in an enjoyable situation.


If you think manual targeting is just twiddle dials you dont really have a clue of what you are talking about, you should try manual targeting first before you even say that auto target is fun.

[GoldenRivet]

94%

I use the weapons officer for ship identification only.

i can only assume that on a real U-boat a weapons officer would assist the captain in identifying ships and plotting solutions in the very least.

but i feel like his solutions are far too quickly plotted... i mean think about it, you have to go through a couple of minutes of target motion analysis before you can plot an accurate solution... because his solutions are instant - i dont use him. its far more rewarding to score hits using my own solutions anyhow.

perhaps if there were a mod which would cause the weapons officer to take 2 or 3 minutes to plot a solution? now that would be nice

[Kumando]

94%

I use the weapons officer for ship identification only.

i can only assume that on a real U-boat a weapons officer would assist the captain in identifying ships and plotting solutions in the very least.

but i feel like his solutions are far too quickly plotted... i mean think about it, you have to go through a couple of minutes of target motion analysis before you can plot an accurate solution... because his solutions are instant - i dont use him. its far more rewarding to score hits using my own solutions anyhow.

perhaps if there were a mod which would cause the weapons officer to take 2 or 3 minutes to plot a solution? now that would be nice

Indeed, but instant solutions no thanks.

[fastfed]

Thanks all, I think I am going to set everything to real except the manual targeting..

I am a little nervous to play WITHOUT the ext. cam as I always use it to watch my torps hit.

But in the same token I use it aswell to see where the destroyers are, which I guess is cheating..

I am going to try this GWX thing out with the settings I mentioned..

I hope I still love it as much as I did with the ext. cam on.

[Penelope_Grey]

If you think manual targeting is just twiddle dials you dont really have a clue of what you are talking about, you should try manual targeting first before you even say that auto target is fun.

I have tried using manual targeting, too bothersome, too complicated and fiddly for me. How did you come to the conclusion I hadn't tried it? When in my message I specifically posted that using auto targeting takes an enormous amount of pressure off the player, and gives them more chance of sinking a ship?

[GoldenRivet]

If you think manual targeting is just twiddle dials you dont really have a clue of what you are talking about, you should try manual targeting first before you even say that auto target is fun.
I have tried using manual targeting, too bothersome, too complicated and fiddly for me. How did you come to the conclusion I hadn't tried it? When in my message I specifically posted that using auto targeting takes an enormous amount of pressure off the player, and gives them more chance of sinking a ship?

thats true- one of the nice things about SH3 is how scalable it is.

when one claims to want "realism" they SHOULD play with manual targeting... otherwiseits too arcade like and you might as well play this game with a game pad or something hahaha

one has to consider that in real life a u boat crew had to at least ...

1. raise the periscope
2. ID the target(s)
3. get bearing and range information
4. plot this information on a chart relative to the u-boat
5. start time
6. lower the scope
7. at about 1 minute 20 seconds the capt would raise the scope again
8. gather new bearing and range data
9. plot the second point on the chart
10. stop the clock at 2 minutes
11. estimate speed and target course based on the above plotted information
12. take last minute range, bearing, AOB calculations
13. input the information to the torpedo data computer
14. flood the tubes to be fired, open the tube doors
15. fire the shot(s)

this all had to be completed for every ship the crew intended to shoot at... historically it could be a time consuming process - it is possible with the right tools to plot solutions to multiple targets at the same time so that when you fire the first shots you just input the TDC data for the next shot in and then take the second shot and then repeat for the third target and so on.

it was not uncommon for a skipper to find a convoy of 30+ ships and only be able to attack 2 or 3 of them. having to evade excorts, then stalk the convoy from over the horizon, and line up an attack the next night... this could go on for several days!

and you can do it this way in the game, but not all players are alike. some guys just want to point and click and suddenly "HEY MAN LOOK AT ME IM A U BOAT ACE I HAVE 2.5 MILLION TONS AND ITS ONLY MY THIRD PATROL!!" thats what is nice about SH3.

personally i like the realism on high, the pressure is on YOU to make the shot go correctly. Its up to YOU to gather the data properly. and if you miss you have no "bernards" but yourself to hold accountable for it.

BUT

when you score a hit after several minutes of plotting a solution you will probably feel like jumping for joy

[Jimbuna]

I play at 100% but I also like the external camera so I guess thet makes me a liar :lol:

[gord96]

props to you guys for playing with the manual targeting and the 100% realism. Just not my cup of tea. I play SH3 to unwind after a long day so I just like to sit back. I will have to try it one day with the realism higher then 23%. :p props to you guys again though. please don't look down on your noob fellow captain here. hehe :huh:

[GoldenRivet]

we would never look down on a fellow capt.

its just the rare guy that comes on bragging about his single patrol where he racked up 100,000 tons except it was on totally arcade settings.

thats like getting breast implants and then bragging about how big your boobs are.

[Morts]

when one claims to want "realism" they SHOULD play with manual targeting... otherwiseits too arcade like and you might as well play this game with a game pad or something hahaha



WRONG you dont need manual targeting for "realism"
realism is alot of other stuff than just manual targeting

[STEED]

I will not in any way clean the sh*t house that job is for Bernard as long as he dose not fall in and block the toilet. I like to spin the wheel on realism and where it lands I shall play it.

I got at the moment 23 careers ranging from 3% to 100%

[P_Funk]

I play at 52%, half n half. I have all thebasics, dud torps, limited fuel batteries compressed air oxygen. Realistic repair, sensors and reloads.

Im not an uber realism nut, to Kumando who says where is the fun in auto targeting, I say, there is lots of fun, it takes an enormous amount of pressure off you the player giving you more time to actually do what the whole point of the game is, sink ships. I didn't get into silent hunter just to twiddle dials on a HUD. I got into it because I wanted to be the captain, and I wanted to experience WW2 in an enjoyable situation.

If you think manual targeting is just twiddle dials you dont really have a clue of what you are talking about, you should try manual targeting first before you even say that auto target is fun.
No need to be rude to the lady.

Such disgraceful manners.:nope:

But I myself played a long while on Auto TDC. But in the end while auto was fun, manual is exhilerating! Getting all that correct, AND sailing the boat, AND keeping track of your postion, AND judging your next move, and then getting that hit... its beautiful. The most satisfying game I've ever played. The rush of serotonin is unparalleled.:up:

[Brag]

I keep weapons officer. and external camera for screenies. Yep--Kiel 1939 is best start. You get the onward to victory feeling in this great naval base! :D

[GoldenRivet]

when one claims to want "realism" they SHOULD play with manual targeting... otherwiseits too arcade like and you might as well play this game with a game pad or something hahaha


WRONG you dont need manual targeting for "realism"
realism is alot of other stuff than just manual targeting

didnt say you NEED it for realism just simply that you SHOULD try it out for a taste of what it was really like to have to spend 5 minutes figuring out how your going to hit the target.

im supporting the fact that SH3 is scalable to incorporate a multitude of gameplay styles - not bashing it.

as for the "might as well play with a game pad" comment.

there is some truth to that IMHO... what fun or challenge could possibly be found in crosshairing a ship and just shooting to get a magical hit one ship after another sinking or damaging 5 ships in a matter of seconds NOTHING at all wrong with doing it that way - its too easy and just doesnt suit ME. i dont speak for everyone. thats what i like about SH3 - its for everyone.

im just stating that my opinion is if you dont at least TRY manual targeting at least once you might as well play this http://www.funflashgames.com/subcommander.htm hahaha :rotfl:

[P_Funk]

I forgot to mention my set up. I run with everything checked except for external cam, because I love the views in harbour and at sunset.

Though next patrol I think that I'll go absolute 100%. Just because its hard not to be tempted to watch a DD.

[fastfed]

I forgot to mention my set up. I run with everything checked except for external cam, because I love the views in harbour and at sunset.

Though next patrol I think that I'll go absolute 100%. Just because its hard not to be tempted to watch a DD.

I was about to ask something, but you might of answered it for me. IF ITS TRUE I WILL BE HAPPY!!

I want to start a career with almost max settings for realism, but incase I don't like not having ext. view, can I turn it on for the NEXT patrol? or do I have to start all the way over again?
THANKS

[robbo180265]

I play at 80% and I don't give a stuff if your game's auto or manual target set, as long as you're enjoying it;)

@ Penolpe,

Linkin' Park in your sig eh? One of my favourites - that one:up:

[Penelope_Grey]

@ Penolpe,

Linkin' Park in your sig eh? One of my favourites - that one:up:

Well I thought it was kinda apt of pretty much everything I do lately, I try so hard, get so far, but in the end... it doesn't even matter.:cry:

[robbo180265]

@ Penolpe,

Linkin' Park in your sig eh? One of my favourites - that one:up:

Well I thought it was kinda apt of pretty much everything I do lately, I try so hard, get so far, but in the end... it doesn't even matter.:cry:


Well I heard that someone around here sunk a carrier recently.

Any idea who?;)

[Penelope_Grey]

Somebody blast me with their 105mm for being down! I did sink that carrier! Thanks Robbo!:up:

[robbo180265]

:up: :up: :up:

[unterseemann]

Indeed,manual targeting is not easy. But before speaking about tdc, bearing, Aob...You will first need to improve your navigation! Try to anticipate your target path, be really careful to get a good position, not being detected...It's not just only about choosing on/off weapons officer.

Get a manual solution is not difficult, it's the last moment of a long-time action. If you (the captain! not the weapon officer...) made your job right first!
I mean you can be 2500meters far, aob 140, your weapon officer would say 'ok no problem i have got a solution!'. In manual targeting you will NEVER get the risk to shot a torpedo in such conditions.
It's the hunt which is interesting, not pulling the trigger!

Even if you get only 1 ship in your patrol, you will be very proud of you!

I play 100%, no map contact update

[Lane]

80 percent:D
Loaded GWX 103 Last night no Problems :D using SH3 Commander.
Sure would like to get rid of this IIA Boat. was on patrol 4 found a British Merchant hit it twice with Torp's and just keep on going. Lost it in the dark used my 6 torps up and when home. The guys have 4 patrols and ready for Patrol 5 time Nov 17 39 going back to same area and see if we get lucky. Patrol the AN 34,35,36 area's Channel South Norway coast.
Lane :D

[Foghladh_mhara]

I started Sh3 with Weapons Officer and auto targeting, then moved onto WO and manual targeting and then manual targeting and no WO. I went back at one stage to full assistance just for fun and ended up quitting that career cos I had the Knights Cross with swords and diamonds by April 1940 and it just felt wrong. I sank 4 ships in a convoy in one bow attack courtesy of my WO, right under the smoke stack every time, whereas in manual I prob would have got a damage on one or possibly two due to the time it takes to get ranges, errors in range and forgetting to open the tube:D Each to their own though. It is a game and should be played for enjoyment:yep:

[Fire_Spy]

Everything! except Manual Targeting. That's why I have a weapons officer.;)

The best item to turn off, if you want to simulate real life, is the external views. No event cam or external camera. You won't believe how different the game is with just these two turned off.:arrgh!:

You know what.... You're right!! I always thought I should learn to shoot myself, though it would be cool, but there is a weapons officer..

I am going to start a career with those settings, EVERYTHING except the manual shooting..

BTW can you recommend me a year and place to start with GWX when I get it? I would like to start at a year that would be give me a low class sub and than within time move up to like a IV or something..

Shooting myself I can already do :|\\ . I wanted to muck about with one of the few homing torps in this game. So I did. Cant remember off hand which one it was but i made the mistake of not slowing down after firing it... It activated at 400 metres and then promptly circled around and hit the stern of my u-boat. :o :damn:

:rotfl:

[Zero Niner]

About 65%. Full realism except for manual targeting & external camera.

[Marko_Ramius]

Hi,

I only begin to to do manual targeting :oops: and before that, i had a lot of fun. Everyone play like he want.

Even if i try manual now, i keep WO on for identification. I must say that is difficult to do manual cause ( but it's just me) the lake of infos to how to do this correctly.

I know there are some good tutorials, but some want some special tools that i haven't ( play GWX), some are not so clear, some is a method and not the other, etc ..

I begin to be able to sink some ships, and it's true that it is very nice to do that way !! But sometimes i really mess up the thing. All is not yet clear.


I keep External view to eye candy and screens, but i try to not use them while fighting. No event Cam. All is on realistic, exept map contact update, WO for identificaton.

Anyway you play it, what a fantastic subsim :sunny:

[Jimbuna]

I forgot to mention my set up. I run with everything checked except for external cam, because I love the views in harbour and at sunset.

Though next patrol I think that I'll go absolute 100%. Just because its hard not to be tempted to watch a DD.

I was about to ask something, but you might of answered it for me. IF ITS TRUE I WILL BE HAPPY!!

I want to start a career with almost max settings for realism, but incase I don't like not having ext. view, can I turn it on for the NEXT patrol? or do I have to start all the way over again?
THANKS

As long as your in port and have exited the game you can reload it prior to commencing your next patrol and adjust the settings to your liking :up: :arrgh!:

[Lzs von swe]

GWX gives me 80% for these settings, stock game gave me some 65% I think.
[Current]
LimitedBatteries=true
LimitedCompressedAir=true
LimitedO2=true
LimitedFuel=true
RealisticVulnerability=true
RealisticRepairTime=true
RealisticShipSinkingTime=true
ManualTargetingSystem=false
NoMapUpdate=false
RealisticSensors=true
DudTorpedoes=true
RealisticReload=true
NoEventCamera=true
NoExternalView=false
NoStabilizeView=true
NoNoiseMeter=true
NoWeaponOfficerAssist=true
[MiscSettings]
AlwaysAutotargeting=0,0,0,0,0;for warships, merchants, uboats, air and, respectively, land targets

I had a manual targeting career on my old system, but for now this works great:up:
MapUpdates I see as other boats reporting in, I don´t go chasing after them.
ExternalView, can´t live without it, love the graphics:rock: :up:
NoWep, don´t need him:arrgh!:

Start in Kiel Sep -39, its a treat:up: If you go for the 7´th you can start in an VIIb.

@Penelope_Grey, Sunny side upp girl:sunny:

[xlbob]

I play GWX v.1.03 :up: at 90%. I still don't tick Manual targetting and map contact update.
As for external camera, I loved it but I found that when I had external camera, I cheated :D I mean, i didn't use it just as "eye candy" but I used it to check out destroyers locations, and sometimes convoys' location. I just couldn't help it, that's why I turned it off:oops: