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waste gate
03-26-07, 06:38 PM
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What do you think it is?

Enigma
03-26-07, 07:11 PM
Here, I'll take the bait for you.

What do I think it is? I think it's murky, abused, subject to massive wim and interpretation, and not legally binding. However, I understand its advantages and neccesity in alot of cases.

waste gate
03-26-07, 07:14 PM
I think the privelege is all about seperation of powers. COTUS has its powers, SCOTUS has its powers and POTUS has his.

Tchocky
03-26-07, 07:16 PM
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What do you think it is?

Misspelled?

jumpy
03-26-07, 07:16 PM
You mean after he's retired, the president or whomever gets to have one secret service assasination hit on a person of his choice. Gratis, no questions asked? :lol:

Enigma
03-26-07, 07:17 PM
Misspelled?

:lol:

bradclark1
03-26-07, 07:31 PM
It's not mentioned in the Constitution so there shouldn't be any. It's a last ditch play of the president to try and hide information from the house and public most of the time I've heard the word.

Enigma
03-26-07, 07:33 PM
Yeah, thats exactly what I was saying. It's not legally binding, and is vastly used to cover up things the administration in question would find damaging.

waste gate
03-26-07, 07:39 PM
It's not mentioned in the Constitution so there shouldn't be any. It's a last ditch play of the president to try and hide information from the house and public most of the time I've heard the word.

OK, then every Congressional staffer should be hauled into the DOJ or better yet the FBI (its against the law to lie to the FBI) and asked questions under oath and every Judicial page should be given the same treatment?

I'm willing to give those people privilege.


PS I'm going to make many spelling and grammatical errors. You will have to deal with it.

Tchocky
03-26-07, 07:44 PM
OK, then every Congressional staffer should be hauled into the DOJ or better yet the FBI (its against the law to lie to the FBI) and asked questions under oath and every Judicial page should be given the same treatment?

I'm willing to give those people privilege. Are you referring to a specific case here? I thought Executive privilege applies only to actions directed at the President, such as Nixon's tapes, and Jeffersons letters? I don't think the actions/possessions of DOJ officials fall under the aegis of executive priviledge. I'm open to correction here..


PS I'm going to make many spelling and grammatical errors. You will have to deal with it.
I'll try to sleep tonight :)

bradclark1
03-26-07, 07:44 PM
It's not mentioned in the Constitution so there shouldn't be any. It's a last ditch play of the president to try and hide information from the house and public most of the time I've heard the word.

OK, then every Congressional staffer should be hauled into the DOJ or better yet the FBI (its against the law to lie to the FBI) and asked questions under oath and every Judicial page should be given the same treatment?

I'm willing to give those people privilege.


PS I'm going to make many spelling and grammatical errors. You will have to deal with it.
You haven't said anything in this comment except your belief that executive privilege gives you the right to lie.

waste gate
03-26-07, 07:45 PM
It's not mentioned in the Constitution so there shouldn't be any. It's a last ditch play of the president to try and hide information from the house and public most of the time I've heard the word.

OK, then every Congressional staffer should be hauled into the DOJ or better yet the FBI (its against the law to lie to the FBI) and asked questions under oath and every Judicial page should be given the same treatment?

I'm willing to give those people privilege.


PS I'm going to make many spelling and grammatical errors. You will have to deal with it.
You haven't said anything in this comment except your belief that executive privilege gives you the right to lie.

Please tell me where I said that.

bradclark1
03-26-07, 07:50 PM
OK, then every Congressional staffer should be hauled into the DOJ or better yet the FBI (its against the law to lie to the FBI) and asked questions under oath and every Judicial page should be given the same treatment?
Thats what I take this as.

waste gate
03-26-07, 07:52 PM
OK, then every Congressional staffer should be hauled into the DOJ or better yet the FBI (its against the law to lie to the FBI) and asked questions under oath and every Judicial page should be given the same treatment?
Thats what I take this as.

Then you take it wrong.

Tchocky
03-26-07, 07:52 PM
You're really stretching it there, Brad. I don't think Exec Privilege goes that far.
You referring to something in particular, w_g?

bradclark1
03-26-07, 09:31 PM
You're really stretching it there, Brad. I don't think Exec Privilege goes that far.
You referring to something in particular, w_g?
Well, maybe a little.
The only time I have heard executive privilege invoked is when that information would be embarrassing to the president or vice president at the time, with the reasoning that it wasn't the information that was sensitive it was about setting a precedent in giving that information. The last I heard was in regards to the VP in 2002 in regard to energy policy. Enron anyone?
This is how the Supreme Court states it:
the valid need for protection of communications between high Government officials and those who advise and assist them in the performance of their manifold duties" and that "[h]uman experience teaches that those who expect public dissemination of their remarks may well temper candor with a concern for appearances and for their own interests to the detriment of the decisionmaking process."
It's a way to avoid direct confrontation.

Bort
03-26-07, 11:38 PM
It's not mentioned in the Constitution so there shouldn't be any. It's a last ditch play of the president to try and hide information from the house and public most of the time I've heard the word.

OK, then every Congressional staffer should be hauled into the DOJ or better yet the FBI (its against the law to lie to the FBI) and asked questions under oath and every Judicial page should be given the same treatment?

I'm willing to give those people privilege.


PS I'm going to make many spelling and grammatical errors. You will have to deal with it.

If they are suspected of wrongdoing, I don't see why not. The Presidents staffers even more so, because they carry powers often exceeding what seem to be rather mundane titles. The people, congress and the courts have the right to know if unethical or illegal activities are taking place at any level of government.

waste gate
03-26-07, 11:45 PM
It's not mentioned in the Constitution so there shouldn't be any. It's a last ditch play of the president to try and hide information from the house and public most of the time I've heard the word.

OK, then every Congressional staffer should be hauled into the DOJ or better yet the FBI (its against the law to lie to the FBI) and asked questions under oath and every Judicial page should be given the same treatment?

I'm willing to give those people privilege.


PS I'm going to make many spelling and grammatical errors. You will have to deal with it.

If they are suspected of wrongdoing, I don't see why not. The Presidents staffers even more so, because they carry powers often exceeding what seem to be rather mundane titles. The people, congress and the courts have the right to know if unethical or illegal activities are taking place at any level of government.

I agree. A governmental standstill would be good.

The Avon Lady
03-27-07, 12:18 AM
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What do you think it is?
A dotted line. :88)

robbo180265
03-27-07, 02:02 AM
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What do you think it is?
A dotted line. :88)

I'm with you on that one:D

Wim Libaers
03-27-07, 05:48 PM
subject to massive wim and interpretation

Huh? I deny all involvement! You can't prove anything! And I'm not massive! ;)

moose1am
03-27-07, 05:58 PM
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What do you think it is?
A dotted line. :88)


:fff: :rotfl:

tycho102
03-29-07, 02:47 PM
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What do you think it is?

Whatever a court is unable to convict me for doing.

Rockstar
03-29-07, 03:54 PM
Means you get use of the company yacht , right?