Post process filtering

[AVGWarhawk]

First my specs:

AMD 64 3200+
1 gig RAM
ATI x1300 512mb

I have fiddled with all the settings for best picture and performance. Much to do about the post processing, I truly believe this game was made for the post processing. My reasoning is without the filter the picture looks fuzzy and bright, not clean and crisp like SH3. My logic here is when the post processing is applied the fuzzy graphics interact with the post processing giving the appearance you see. Not only that, I have the sliders mid-way, water glare on, caustic on and 3d waves on. The game actually runs smoother with the post processing on. I ran the game for about an hour in the post process and I like the post processing. I think it adds some thing to the game and to me the overall graphics picture is better.

Just my take on it fellas. Give it a try. It grows on you like fungus after a while. Back to my sub:yep:

[stabiz]

I agree about the filter, it grows on me too. With FSAA it would look like art. I still cant get my head around the fact that less powerful computers are enjoying this game without stutters, though.:cry:

[Cakewalk]

Post Processing does indeed increase FPS... interesting.:hmm:

[AVGWarhawk]

I agree about the filter, it grows on me too. With FSAA it would look like art. I still cant get my head around the fact that less powerful computers are enjoying this game without stutters, though.:cry:


I have studied the forums (not just to moderate) but to see who has what in the computer department and who is having a good time with it. I planned on not spending a lot of $$$. I had the strong foundation with the 3200+ and 1 gig. My 6200 card was the bottle neck. The best card I found without changing power supply was the visiontek X1300 512mg AGP card. It did wonders. Sliders at medium and post processing on. It just runs better this way and it really grows on you. I found it great watching Neals video and found out the rig he had to run it on. A rig not unlike mine:hmm: . So reading the forums I found the ATI guys seem to have the edge. I have always had the Nvidia cards and this is my first ATI. I very happy with it.

[Ducimus]

I'll have to give this more of a go. I did notice things seemed richer (not just a bit grainy) with it on. Without it on, everything just looks smudged.

[TDK1044]

I've come to really like the look of the post process filtering, and my mid range system runs this game with maxed out graphics with no trouble at all. I had a few hiccups early on, until I selected 'Application Controlled' in the AA and AF settings in my video card's control panel. After that, smooth sailing.

[stabiz]

You too got ATI, TDK?

[TDK1044]

No, I have a GeForce 7600GT.

[Ark]

The filter is starting to really grow on me too.

Smooth as silk on my rig, no stutters or dips in FPS either way. :)

[AVGWarhawk]

Thats the thing men. I believe this game to be optimized with the post processing on. AA is not a factor here as I believe AA would not work with how the graphics are presented. Once I checked Post processing the game smoothed out and I have been clicking on more goodies until the game is unplayable. That is when I back them off:up:


BTW, came up on two warships. The first warship spotted me and started coding with the spot light to the other that I was there. In my mind, this game is a masterpiece:yep:

[THE_MASK]

This thread seems to have clued up guys on board so could you please tell me if they implemented the (watch crew wounded/death in heavy seas) was implemented .

[AVGWarhawk]

This thread seems to have clued up guys on board so could you please tell me if they implemented the (watch crew wounded/death in heavy seas) was implemented .


Not a clue

[NefariousKoel]

I'm using max'd graphics.

I was at an impasse as to using the post processing filter. After changing it back and forth while in-game numerous times, I went without it.

The only thing that convinced me was when that grainy overlay showed itself in a certain view. I think it was my Binoculars. I didn't mind it in the command room where the graininess is most noticeable but I wasn't happy with it showing up while I'm on an attack run.

However, I definitely like it otherwise. It really brings out some of the subtle colors. I'll probably keep switching back and forth but certain views are a bit off. It may be an issue with the resolution setting and when they fix the 3d for that, perhaps it'll be a must have.

Oh, specs..
AMD Athlon 64 3700+ at 2.2Ghz Sock 939
2GB DDR400 RAM
7900GS XFX PCI-E with highest factory overclock
Running at 1280x1024 on 17" Samsung LCD

[iblitz]

First my specs:

AMD 64 3200+
1 gig RAM
ATI x1300 512mb

I have fiddled with all the settings for best picture and performance. Much to do about the post processing, I truly believe this game was made for the post processing. My reasoning is without the filter the picture looks fuzzy and bright, not clean and crisp like SH3. My logic here is when the post processing is applied the fuzzy graphics interact with the post processing giving the appearance you see. Not only that, I have the sliders mid-way, water glare on, caustic on and 3d waves on. The game actually runs smoother with the post processing on. I ran the game for about an hour in the post process and I like the post processing. I think it adds some thing to the game and to me the overall graphics picture is better.

Just my take on it fellas. Give it a try. It grows on you like fungus after a while. Back to my sub:yep:


I agree with you.... I think it was meant that way and since I have been running it on, it has reallly grown on me and I like it :D Seems more life like to me.....

[AVGWarhawk]

First my specs:

AMD 64 3200+
1 gig RAM
ATI x1300 512mb

I have fiddled with all the settings for best picture and performance. Much to do about the post processing, I truly believe this game was made for the post processing. My reasoning is without the filter the picture looks fuzzy and bright, not clean and crisp like SH3. My logic here is when the post processing is applied the fuzzy graphics interact with the post processing giving the appearance you see. Not only that, I have the sliders mid-way, water glare on, caustic on and 3d waves on. The game actually runs smoother with the post processing on. I ran the game for about an hour in the post process and I like the post processing. I think it adds some thing to the game and to me the overall graphics picture is better.

Just my take on it fellas. Give it a try. It grows on you like fungus after a while. Back to my sub:yep:


I agree with you.... I think it was meant that way and since I have been running it on, it has reallly grown on me and I like it :D Seems more life like to me.....



Yes, it does seems more life like and quite frankly I get better FPS with it on. I hope the others who are staying away from it will try it because it really grows on you and presents quite a different feel overall as compared to other games we have all played. I find it very interesting and believe the game is better overall with it.

[Deep Six]

Yeah it does grow on you....I found it overly dark to begin with increasing the "Gamma" in game does not really work because you then get lighter nights...It's just a matter of fiddling with your CRT/TFT settings....BUT the drawback in this method is it then hands over to the next game you are playing....So you have to fiddle again....The gamma thing is a little twitchy on the slider would have been nice to use the enter key to increase/decrease by one increment...That way it only effects SH4 and not your default TFT/CRT settings.


Deep six

[Greggy_D]

What exactly does the PPF change or modify? When looking at the game with and without the PPF, I thought it looked similiar. Maybe I'm not picking up on the subtle changes.

[Mud]

Looks like I'm the only one then with a FPS decrease , about 5 to 7 FPS lesser on a 6600 gt :hmm:
Got the latest drivers and run the DX version that comes with the box.

Mud

[stabiz]

Nope, I get a performance hit by post processing too.

[wetwarev7]

I agree that PPF looks better, but I get a FPS hit with it turned on. One thing I've noticed is that if you have to turn off PPF, turn off sun glare as well - it looks better than with just PPF turned off.

I've got everything else maxed out....

P4 3.0Ghz
1GB RAM
Nvidia 6600 GT
Win XP

[AVGWarhawk]

@Stabiz/wetwave,

Perhaps the nivida card, you both have the same:hmm: manufacturer. I don't know. The game is smoother for me with PPF on. I shoved in a Radeon X1300 512mb yesterday and it works just swell. I start to slow when in outside view, shallow water with all the rocks and stuff looking at the sub from the outside. The blurry water is cool. Not much of hit on FPS to want to turn it off though. :up:

[AVGWarhawk]

Looks like I'm the only one then with a FPS decrease , about 5 to 7 FPS lesser on a 6600 gt :hmm:
Got the latest drivers and run the DX version that comes with the box.

Mud


The is a newer version for DX is out. Give it a shot. Also, I had a 6200OC card that made the game just unplayble with anything moved up. I dumped that card for the Radeon X1300 512mb. Works just great. Perhaps your 6600 creates some bottleneck for you?

[AVGWarhawk]

Ok, I download the FRAP program for some screenshots. It shows you the FPS as well. Outside view I get 15 FPS in this particular picture. It is still smooth play. From what I understand, the human eye can only register 15 FPS. With that in mind your target FPS should be over 15FPS. Anyway, this pic was taken. I'm satisfied with the performance concerning PPF. Outside view I get around 25 FPS above the water. It remains the same with active warships/merchants. Inside the sub and map rooms etc I get around 40 FPS. Enough tinkering. I go sink some vessels now!

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/sh42007-03-2409-54-41-54.jpg

[Mud]

The is a newer version for DX is out. Give it a shot. Also, I had a 6200OC card that made the game just unplayble with anything moved up. I dumped that card for the Radeon X1300 512mb. Works just great. Perhaps your 6600 creates some bottleneck for you?
I'm gonna get me the latest DX version and a new vidcard is in the planning for next month.
But most new vid cards have dual DVI output and no VGA and I'm still on a CRT 19 inch monitor.
Not checked it yet but probably there is a adapter or something to let me keep using my good old CRT ;)

Edit: great screenie BTW

Mud

[malkuth74]

The is a newer version for DX is out. Give it a shot. Also, I had a 6200OC card that made the game just unplayble with anything moved up. I dumped that card for the Radeon X1300 512mb. Works just great. Perhaps your 6600 creates some bottleneck for you?
I'm gonna get me the latest DX version and a new vidcard is in the planning for next month.
But most new vid cards have dual DVI output and no VGA and I'm still on a CRT 19 inch monitor.
Not checked it yet but probably there is a adapter or something to let me keep using my good old CRT ;)

Mud

Yes... It comes with the cards most of the time. :|\\

[AVGWarhawk]

The is a newer version for DX is out. Give it a shot. Also, I had a 6200OC card that made the game just unplayble with anything moved up. I dumped that card for the Radeon X1300 512mb. Works just great. Perhaps your 6600 creates some bottleneck for you?

I'm gonna get me the latest DX version and a new vidcard is in the planning for next month.
But most new vid cards have dual DVI output and no VGA and I'm still on a CRT 19 inch monitor.
Not checked it yet but probably there is a adapter or something to let me keep using my good old CRT ;)

Mud

A adaptor should come with the card. The last two I purchased had them:yep: I do not know where you live but CompUsa is closing 125 stores. The sale price are excellent!

[stabiz]

Yes, all the cards I have bought have had adapters. In fact, I think I must have 4-5 lying around.:D

[Mud]

Thanks for the quick answer guys 'cos I didn't know that , I was a little worried I was forced to buy a LCD aswell.
Although my wife wants me to get a LCD because it uses less power ... women always think about the not important stuff :lol: j/k

Oh and Warhawk we have the Atlantic between us I think ;)

Mud

[AVGWarhawk]

Thanks for the quick answer guys 'cos I didn't know that , I was a little worried I was forced to buy a LCD aswell.
Although my wife wants me to get a LCD because it uses less power ... women always think about the not important stuff :lol: j/k

Oh and Warhawk we have the Atlantic between us I think ;)

Mud

Man, if your wife says got get an LCD...GOOOOOO GET IT!!!! You may never have another chance:yep:

[Ducimus]

Just FYI, i know its been posted before, but this:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=108747
(as long as you stay withiin the aspect ratio your monitor supports)

Along with post proccessing filter, has really improved things for me.