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AS
03-22-07, 07:36 AM
Hi all,

SH4 has just been released in Germany and the computer stores even have a huge SH4 display selling both the normal and the special edition including a sticker, ship ID, map and manual.

After a comparatively short loading time SH4 starts without any problems on my 3 year old rig.

What you get to see brings you down to earth immediately. The subīs inside DOES look better than in SH3, and yet thereīs no real "Wow" effect since the colours are all a bit faint and you feel very stationary: you cannot interact with the crew, you cannot change your position or take the crewīs positions, and the guy at the map table doesnīt move at all, I donīt know what heīs there for.

In short: itīs like being glued to the bottom of a wax museum.

The bridge: all has been said before. A useless watch officer who is somewhat transparent. Many blind spots due to the US sub design (tower and masts just blocks your view). Lack of FSAA makes deck-banister blocky and jagged.

Free cam: Either you have to search for your sub in an awkward way and get the camera right, OR you hit ".", the problem is, while you are getting a view of your sub you are way too far away, when you zoom in, youīll notice that you cannot get close enough to your sub to see any details - so again, your view is rather limited for no good reason at all.

Another drawback: due to the dark paint job I feel my sub looks like a whale in the night even at bright daylight.

Steering and command interface: Most obviously your view is limited by unnecessarily huge interfaces. The text message field kills all immersion, first thing I did was hide it behind the huge command bar. The design is somewhat stiff and blocky. No real gauge for fuel, CO2 etc. If you click the bottons, your mouse cursor hides the actual "gauge". Getting to stations means double-clicking the icons unless you use the keyboard anyway.

In short: my first impression is, SH4 feels sterile and somewhat indirect in terms of view, interaction and commanding. In German we have a fun word for making things worse instead of improving them: "verschlimmbessern". In English it would be "Imworsement" (pun on "Improvement")

I donīt know about gameplay, but I know there will be alot to do for those great modders out there.

My two cents,

Cheers, AS

CrocodileDundee
03-22-07, 08:09 AM
I think the engine is the same, despite the advert to the contrary. Explosions are the same in every detail. Gee, even the sounds are identical.

I kinda like the auto-enlarging main gauges. I think you should have all gauges in the game like that (CO2, Fuel, Battery). I personally like to play it with the external cam on, so the more gauges you have readily available, the better.

Overal I'm not as dissapointed as you, but I fail to see the 'huge improvement' (or even "imworsement" - I actually like this one). I think SH4 is just an expansion pack.

ijozic
03-22-07, 08:18 AM
I would agree that the interface is kind of more complex than it should be and that the battery, fuel, etc. gauges are missing. But I like what they did with the map and the map tools. Great design.

CrocodileDundee
03-22-07, 08:23 AM
Guys, has anyone seen yet the 'new bow/stern wave effect' in the 1.1 patch? I can't I'm stuck in the office at work! :damn:

codmander
03-22-07, 08:32 AM
lol:hmm:

The General
03-22-07, 08:32 AM
@CrocodileDundee

I'm guessing you live in Dundee, do you have a copy of SH4 already? I'm interested to see the new bow wave effect too.

P_Funk
03-22-07, 08:32 AM
Guys, has anyone seen yet the 'new bow/stern wave effect' in the 1.1 patch? I can't I'm stuck in the office at work! :damn:
Well thats one Scranton paper company employee with his eye on the ball.:roll:

CrocodileDundee
03-22-07, 09:00 AM
@CrocodileDundee

I'm guessing you live in Dundee, do you have a copy of SH4 already? I'm interested to see the new bow wave effect too.

Dundee it is.

My girl works at Game. I'll say no more. :smug: (I usually agree with her that it is a lame job, but she's in her final year at Uni, so it is better than shoveling chips @ Burger King I guess).

CrocodileDundee
03-22-07, 09:03 AM
Guys, has anyone seen yet the 'new bow/stern wave effect' in the 1.1 patch? I can't I'm stuck in the office at work! :damn:
Well thats one Scranton paper company employee with his eye on the ball.:roll:


;) I actually do research. We're allowed to be lazy on special ocasions, as long as we spend Easter in the lab ;) What the heck I don't have the doe for anything else... :cry: (gonna get my Gato and sail around Hawaii - for FREE:|\\ )

The General
03-22-07, 09:03 AM
@CrocDundee

Hey man that's cool. I hope to see you online when I get my copy. I'll P.M. you when that great day comes. :up: