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Mikkow
03-21-07, 03:04 PM
So, what do we know about it? I don't know much. Found some page. Someone please compare it to the other subs for me. Looks like it's a smaller costal boat.

Displacement (Surface) 903 t.
Displacement (Submerged) 1126 t.
Length 225' 3"
Beam 20' 8"
Draft 13' 1"
Powerplant diesel electric engines, New London Ship and Engine Co., diesel engines,
Horsepower 1200
Screws 2
Speed Surfaced: 14,5
Submerged: 11
Endurance
Test Depth 200 feet
Collapse Depth
Armor n/a
Armament four 21" torpedo tubes, 12 torpedoes
one 4"/50 deck gun
Aircraft none
Complement 4 officers, 34 enlisted

FAdmiral
03-21-07, 03:09 PM
It's the older WWI "Sugar Class" boats carrying 12 "Mk. 10" torpedos.
They (dev team) were not gonna include this class in SH4 but
loud howling from the gamers will put it in the first 1.1 patch...

JIM

Gammel
03-21-07, 03:14 PM
pretty fast when running submerged...
11 knots - is this real? :o

guess it will be my first command :smug:

digitizedsoul
03-21-07, 03:14 PM
FA, I live in atlanta as well.... just an FYI

Sailor Steve
03-21-07, 04:22 PM
pretty fast when running submerged...
11 knots - is this real? :o

guess it will be my first command :smug:
Yes, it's real. At least all the books say so.

Gammel
03-21-07, 04:39 PM
thx @ Sailor Steve!


anyone could give a short explaination why did the US Subs had better underwater speeds,
compared to the u-boats of the germans?
Better batteries/engines?
Better hull design?


Except for the Type XXI and XXIII other german boats did hardly reach 8 knots
or less as far as i know...

The more i read about american submarines, the more i came to the conclusion they where far superior to the german designs
(except the electro boats), even if they could not reach same deep levels perhaps

Sailor Steve
03-21-07, 05:08 PM
They didn't. The S-class was an exception, and I'm not sure why they were faster. US fleet boats were no faster underwater than the Germans.

Gammel
03-21-07, 05:16 PM
I´ll do a testdrive soon...:D

my source (some SH4 page o.s. lol) says
even the big ones
ähm like Gato and ähm the other boats (notice to myself: read more about american subs) :oops:
could have reached 9 knots
wasn´t that better than the german vessles? ok perhaps 1 knot
but at least something...

elanaiba
03-21-07, 05:41 PM
It's the older WWI "Sugar Class" boats carrying 12 "Mk. 10" torpedos.
They (dev team) were not gonna include this class in SH4 but
loud howling from the gamers will put it in the first 1.1 patch...

JIM

Actually, the stock game comes with the S-18 variation of the Sugar boats. The patch adds the S-42 variation.

LukeFF
03-21-07, 06:08 PM
So, all this means we'll have the Group I and Group III S-boats, correct?

simsurfer
03-21-07, 07:00 PM
pretty fast when running submerged...
11 knots - is this real? :o

guess it will be my first command :smug: Yes, it's real. At least all the books say so.

Until your batteries die and @ that speed were talking what? 20 min.

Mikkow
03-22-07, 10:33 AM
Tried it in game. It doesn't seem to have an interior conning tower, just command room + bridge.

P_Funk
03-22-07, 10:40 AM
They didn't. The S-class was an exception, and I'm not sure why they were faster. US fleet boats were no faster underwater than the Germans.
Could it be because maybe the S-Class was slighty more aerodynamic? That was a big part in making the XXI faster.

Or could it just be a favourable weight versus horsepower ratio?

Mikkow
03-22-07, 11:01 AM
They didn't. The S-class was an exception, and I'm not sure why they were faster. US fleet boats were no faster underwater than the Germans. Could it be because maybe the S-Class was slighty more aerodynamic??

You mean 'hydrodynamic' :)
And that's probably why.

Ark
03-22-07, 02:03 PM
They didn't. The S-class was an exception, and I'm not sure why they were faster. US fleet boats were no faster underwater than the Germans. Could it be because maybe the S-Class was slighty more aerodynamic??

You mean 'hydrodynamic' :)
And that's probably why.


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