Discussion: "I just received/bought SH4!" Thread

[Ark]

Let's keep all this type of info. in here so it is easy to locate for people.

It REALLY helps, especially since there could be folks out there who could be getting their copies but have no clue they are in fact able to do so.

:up:

[Donner]

This thread is for those lucky skippers who have SH4 in their hands.

Please post details as your general location, how you acquired the game (store purchase, preorder delivery, download, etc.) If a preorder, please say where order was placed (Ubi store, Amazon.com, etc) and shipping carrier and service (overnight, 2 day ship, etc.)

Thanks!

[malkuth74]

It doesnt make any sense to me at all. These have to be all overseas stores. Cause this don't ever happen in USA.

[Ark]

Well, it does happen quite a bit here, we just don't really notice all the time. FSX came out about a week or so early because Best Buy accidentaly put it on their shelves. lol

Will it happen with SHIV here? I have no idea. But I do know one thing for sure....if the game is currently being installed by customers who have recieved their copies through legitimate means, then Ubisoft should most definately release every where. Now.


P.S. Thx, Donner. :)

[Donner]

Ok...Both threads (Ark's and mine) have been merged together for the Official "I received/bought SH4!" Thread.

Let's get some sighting reports in here...pronto! :sunny:

[Chrall]

People say they have bought it in Sweden. Well Id just like to say that I'm very confused. Three days ago ubisoft.se had releasedate for sweden as 2007-03-16.
Since i also live in Sweden I thought of cancel my Amazon order, but I had doubt in that release date, so I did not bother. And right I was, a day later they changed it to 2007-03-23(which still stands, LINK (http://www.ubi.com/SE/Games/Info.aspx?pId=5110))
And all online stores shows the same release date, only taking pre-orders. :hmm:

[stabiz]

Maybe the supposed Sweden-buyers are pirates who dont check updated release dates?:hmm:

[Safe-Keeper]

Maybe the supposed Sweden-buyers are pirates who dont check updated release dates?If they don't specify that they've bought the game, and it's not released yet in Sweden... I'd say they should be getting close to a perma-ban.

[Tigrone]

I checked with Amazon and CompUSA.

CompUSA reports:
Silent Hunter 4: Wolves of the Pacific by Ubi Soft (PC)
Delivery $49.99 SOLD OUT for delivery
E-mail me when the product can be delivered
Not Available In-Store At Present
[I understand it will not be available in-store till they fill the backlog of orders.]

Amazon has a partner offering used SH4, but delivery would be after 3/21:
Silent Hunter: Wolves of the Pacific by Ubisoft
Media: CD-ROM
Platform: Windows XP
Price at a Glance
List Price: $49.99
Used: from $49.94
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Shipping: In Stock. Ships from NC, United States Expedited shipping available. See shipping rates.

Ebay seems to have about 40 copies being offered.

[602Sqn_Puff]

Pre ordered mine from Play , in the UK release date is set for the 23rd of March { most games come out on a Friday here, no idea why lol } so I hope that Play will send it this week , they usually have it in store about three days before release.

[PeriscopeDepth]

Sweden has a history of releasing games earlier than they should, so it's not surprising really.

PD

[GSpector]

Wow, with a heading of "The Official "I just received/bought SH4!" Thread " and there are already 11 (now 12) postings and not one from anyone with it, including the only member that actually claimed to have received it early.:hmm:

[edjcox]

There are always those who enhance there appearance by long noses......


http://www.allparty.co.uk/store/media/body_parts/22445_Nose_Pinocchio_S.jpg (http://www.allparty.co.uk/store/22445.shtml)


the game isn't out there yet...


:arrgh!:

[Ark]

There are always those who enhance there appearance by long noses......


http://www.allparty.co.uk/store/media/body_parts/22445_Nose_Pinocchio_S.jpg (http://www.allparty.co.uk/store/22445.shtml)


the game isn't out there yet...


:arrgh!:

Tell that too the guy who posted pics of his box and all of the contents. lol

[rambo83]

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[Gizzmoe]

Just found out that SH4 is possible to download from the illegal market...
AND IT`S REAL!!!
How`s THAT possible???
That´s nothing new, happens all the time. The people uploading those games have good connections, they know the right people.

[THE_MASK]

Just found out that SH4 is possible to download from the illegal market...
AND IT`S REAL!!!
How`s THAT possible???

GRUBS:yep:

[BOF]

Yesterday , saturday 17, I bought SH4 here in Norway.
Collectors edition!

BOF

[squeak]

This is the Releasedate in Sweden:2007-03-23 , same date as Command and conquer :up:

[Deep-Six]

Yesterday , saturday 17, I bought SH4 here in Norway.
Collectors edition!

BOF

By god, you better post screenies.:yep:

[Morts]

what the:huh:
released in norway but not denmark ?:doh:

hmm:hmm: ...

[BOF]

Heres proof:
http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh4ix9.jpg

Installing....

BOF

[Biggles]

6 more days......6......more.....daaayysss.........:dead:

[BOF]

Interior:
http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0kr7.jpg

Hold your breath...
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7883/picture1fy4.jpg

Hi-ha, First hit:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3109/picture3mr9.jpg

BOF

[Spray]

Excellent pics... mind showing us the ships guts?

[Carotio]

what the:huh:
released in norway but not denmark ?:doh:

hmm:hmm: ...

Maybe he works or owns the pc-store himself...!?
Weekly and monthly magazines arrive to stores earlier before their release dates as well, and sometimes one can buy them earlier, because the shopkeaper don't care about the release date. So maybe he doesn't work in the pc-store, but the storekeaper just didn't care about the release date.

I don't know, and I don't care!
I preordered my super-duper-multi-marvelous Deluxe Edition SH4 version, and when it comes next week, I'll be just as glad! What difference does a few days gonna make to any of us?

Yeah, right. I'm F*cking jalous! :x :rotfl:

[vodkavera]

what the:huh:
released in norway but not denmark ?:doh:

hmm:hmm: ...

Maybe he works or owns the pc-store himself...!?
Weekly and monthly magazines arrive to stores earlier before their release dates as well, and sometimes one can buy them earlier, because the shopkeaper don't care about the release date. So maybe he doesn't work in the pc-store, but the storekeaper just didn't care about the release date.

I don't know, and I don't care!
I preordered my super-duper-multi-marvelous Deluxe Edition SH4 version, and when it comes next week, I'll be just as glad! What difference does a few days gonna make to any of us?

Yeah, right. I'm F*cking jalous! :x :rotfl:

He,he.
I second that!!
:rotfl:

[The General]

You lucky Bastard!

[BOF]

what the:huh:
released in norway but not denmark ?:doh:

hmm:hmm: ...
Maybe he works or owns the pc-store himself...!?
Weekly and monthly magazines arrive to stores earlier before their release dates as well, and sometimes one can buy them earlier, because the shopkeaper don't care about the release date. So maybe he doesn't work in the pc-store, but the storekeaper just didn't care about the release date.

I don't know, and I don't care!
I preordered my super-duper-multi-marvelous Deluxe Edition SH4 version, and when it comes next week, I'll be just as glad! What difference does a few days gonna make to any of us?

Yeah, right. I'm F*cking jalous! :x :rotfl:
Bought it in a store. No tricks from my side.
I was looking for something else, and BAAAM, SH4!!!!:sunny:

BOF

[nvdrifter]

Hmmm. Appears that the torpedo wakes are still way too short... same as SH3. Looks like I'll have to 'fix' that with a mod. :cool:

[Shiplord]

SHIV can be borrowed since Friday here at my local DVD rental business in Hamburg (Germany), they had four boxes on their shelf but all already lent:shifty:

[Payoff]

Nice shots.:up: Keep em comin. If you get a chance can you show us one of the new fangled radio messages?

[Schultzy]

I was looking for something else, and BAAAM, SH4!!!!:sunny:

BOF

Lucky fella. But what you doing here talking about it. ;) Go and get playing, then come back and talk to us about it in a few hours! :lol:

Enjoy and sink one for me.

[Captain_Jack]

Looks like the small interface Depth Gauge in the Corner is in METERS....I have yet to ever see a screenshot of one in FEET (as it should be)

[Payoff]

Looks like the small interface Depth Gauge in the Corner is in METERS....I have yet to ever see a screenshot of one in FEET (as it should be)
Good point. :hmm:

[Carotio]

, but the storekeaper just didn't care about the release date.
Bought it in a store. No tricks from my side.
I was looking for something else, and BAAAM, SH4!!!!:sunny:
BOF

Then, as I said, the storekeaper didn't care about a release date! And thus you were just plain lucky! Cool for you :up: , a pain in the 4$$ for the rest of us! :damn:

:rotfl:

[Carotio]

Looks like the small interface Depth Gauge in the Corner is in METERS....I have yet to ever see a screenshot of one in FEET (as it should be)
Good point. :hmm:

As customed to the metric system, I don't mind! :lol:
But you're right, it's an American sub, and thus it should be feet, which an ubi guy also said to me somewhere on ubi forum...

[OneTinSoldier]

Looks like the small interface Depth Gauge in the Corner is in METERS....I have yet to ever see a screenshot of one in FEET (as it should be)


From the Dev Team Answer thread on the Ubi forum...

Q: Taifu_Noodle: What units of measurement will SH4 use?
A: Silent Hunter 3 used the same measurements system as the Kriegsmarine - based on the metric system. For Wolves of the Pacific, we will of course use the imperial system since this is the historical solution. However, we are considering to have the game switch to metric as an option.

It looks like the 'option' made it in.. I guess.

[gronbek]

Hi,

I am at the present installing my collectors edition.
After that I'll be happy to answer any questions you "unlucky" ;) guys have.

BR Anders

[zaloxski]

:up:Well for you!
May be people want to know if AA is supported or not.

.-zalox

[shell]

:up:Well for you!
May be people want to know if AA is supported or not.

.-zalox

Yes, that is the main question for me too!

[moosenoodles]

I have it on good authority that FSAA is not supported... sorry to burst your bubbles lol.. has burst mine also..

[The General]

Hmmm. Appears that the torpedo wakes are still way too short... same as SH3. Looks like I'll have to 'fix' that with a mod. :cool:Go for it NV! Are you the guy who did the brilliant extended wake MOD for GWX? That was awesome work! Although it was bit annoying waiting for the wake to form everytime you went outside.

@Mossenoodles,

what the heck is FSAA?

[Jace11]

I have it on good authority that FSAA is not supported... sorry to burst your bubbles lol.. has burst mine also..

People keep mentioning this, but can't you just force it. I think I can force most games to FSAA with my ATi setup.

[flintlock]

I do know one thing for sure....if the game is currently being installed by customers who have recieved their copies through legitimate means, then Ubisoft should most definately release every where. Now.
It would be nice, but it'll never happen. This would essentially set a precedent which would allow retailers to dictate release dates. I don't believe publishers would be too excited about this.

To those lucky people receiving SH4 early--enjoy!

[gronbek]

AA NOT SUPPORTED
No setting for it in game.
Setting AA in windows ATI driver results in game override with NO AA.

So NO AA folks.

BR Anders

[OneTinSoldier]

what the heck is FSAA?

Full Screen Anti-Aliasing... or just Anti-Aliasing. A technique for smoothing out the 'stair-stepping', or 'jaggies' of lines as they are being drawn on the screen.

[moosenoodles]

Hi jace, not sure I hear of this also about forced FSAA but I personaly have gone to Nvidia card now and my euro mate who informed me is on Nvidia also.. I will do some google finger work and see if you can force Nvidia drivers to do FSAA within a game..

Im also informed that there is none of that post effects that you can handle with the page up and down keys in sh3 remember? You have some filter effect/film filter or something instead, but he's adiment ? spelt right? that it does not do the same as alleviating jaggies on edging... Wonder what card neal uses his screenies didnt seem to show jaggies to me, unless he was clever and took loads until the sub was rocking in the right place to cause straight lines lol. :P

Anyone else want to give feedback on this lot? insight etc..

cheers,

Moose.

[The General]

Thanks Tin Soldier! From what I understan Anti-aliasing is pretty heavy on the old Graphic Card. Most people only have a 256MB Video Card, so I guess they didn't bother with AA. From some the screenshots I've seen, it barely needs it.

[malkuth74]

It still miffs me that they hold back releases to Make it fair for EU crowd. But low and Behold yet again We are Screwed by the Same EU Stores. Usually I read stuff like this on the monday or so. But being release 5-6 days before official release date. :damn:

[The General]

Well, the US screens their films sometimes months before they release them to us lowly Europeans. So I guess a game developed in Europe gets released here first, sorry. Like J.T. says; what goes around, goes around, goes all the way back around. Sing!

[Ark]

*EDIT* For Cleaning

[The General]

Well, I think you'll be impressed when you see SH4 in action. It has better graphics than any sim of it's kind. If you're expecting Graphics by I.L.M. on something that costs 50 bucks, you're crazy! If they wanna sell alot of copies, they can't just cater to those who own water-cooled super computers like your good self.

[shell]

Thanks Tin Soldier! From what I understan Anti-aliasing is pretty heavy on the old Graphic Card. Most people only have a 256MB Video Card, so I guess they didn't bother with AA. From some the screenshots I've seen, it barely needs it.

I have the exact opposite opinion. lol

THe lack of FSAA is probably the first thing I noticed in the screenshots of this game. In a lot of screenshots, the game, IMO, just looks flat out not good.

The fact that SHIV can't use FSAA pisses me off.

I second that!
Its the exact opposite opinion to me too.
From every screenshot I have seen, it desperately needs AA.

If it is official that AA is not possible, SH4 is history for me.

[Ark]

*EDIT* Cleaning

[cherbert]

If it is official that AA is not possible, SH4 is history for me.

Cya then.

[Psyon]

Well, it does happen quite a bit here, we just don't really notice all the time. FSX came out about a week or so early because Best Buy accidentaly put it on their shelves. lol

Will it happen with SHIV here? I have no idea. But I do know one thing for sure....if the game is currently being installed by customers who have recieved their copies through legitimate means, then Ubisoft should most definately release every where. Now.


P.S. Thx, Donner. :)

you are correct!! it happens all the time in the states and not just games either.
music would be the leader in this catagory.

[gronbek]

Been playing around with SH4 for an hour or so. Could have been more but my fiance wondered where the heck i was. Even though she joined me at the store to buy the game. She is just too wonderful :oops:
Regarding AA, IMHO the game needs to support it. Its quite bad in 1280X1024 even 1600X1200. Steel wires on subs and ships sometimes disappear due to the "stair case or step" effect of no AA.
However on the plus side, the game runs really smooth in the above mentioned resolutions.
Interior rocking camera is still there, I had my doubts that it had gone by watching the videos available online.

BR Anders

[cherbert]

Graphics by ILM? FSAA is a "Standard" feature these days. Not allowing it is a step back.

Its not standard if the game supports HDR. Most mainstream cards cannot do HDR and AA.

Unless I'm mistaken and some of the newer Vista DX10 cards can, the only thing capable of HDR+AA at the same time is the Xbox 360.

Oblivion doesn't use AA because it uses HDR instead which is far superior!

But if SH4 doesn't have HDR then yes, please give us AA !!!

[joshuaj]

This happened with EA once. When the game Godfather came out Wal-Mart released it a week and a half early. So when I was casually walking through the game section like I do when I visit. I saw it and grabbed it quickly and quietly. I had some graphic issues with the game so I called EA after I registered the game online. The tech support said I shouldn't even have the game and they didn't have any documentation on the game yet to help me. So I had to call back a week later.

[Gizzmoe]

Unless I'm mistaken and some of the newer Vista DX10 cards can, the only thing capable of HDR+AA at the same time is the Xbox 360.

Oblivion doesn't use AA because it uses HDR instead which is far superior!

My X1950XT supports HDR+AA, I play Oblivion with both enabled.

[shell]

Graphics by ILM? FSAA is a "Standard" feature these days. Not allowing it is a step back.

Absolutely.
We are in the year 2007. Now we have DC CPUs and adequate Graphiccards even in the mainstream. AA and AF are one of the eye candy stuff that really pushes the visual quality in games a step forward. And now the Devs are beginning to degenerate this visual quality in a time, where 4xAA and 4xAF is no longer a privilege to those who have absolute highend hardware.

This is crazy.

[Ark]

*EDIT* Cleaning

[elite_hunter_sh3]

ITS OUT!!!! O COMEONE NO FAIR:shifty: :arrgh!: it was released in norway already?? , if anyone has it SCREENSHOTS ASAP!!

[Ark]

*EDIT* Cleaning

[OneTinSoldier]

Oblivion doesn't use AA because it uses HDR instead which is far superior!

But if SH4 doesn't have HDR then yes, please give us AA !!!

That's your opinion, and...

You almost make it sound as if HDR is a replacement for AA. It is something completely different than AA, and IMO, most certainly does not make up for a lack of AA. IMO, HDR is overhyped as well as being overdone in most(not all) of the games it's been implemented in. As Ark said, spotting some things in-game without AA can be a pita. Not good for a sim. Does HDR make up for that? Not in my book! I'm well aware though that different people like different books for various reasons.

[Arrowhead2k1]

It won't work with SHIV.

The last 2-3 games released by Ubisoft don't support FSAA.

It can't be set in-game. It can't be forced through the driver control panel. It can't be forced with HDR turned off.

Sad news indeed.

That is one hell of an oversight!! :down:

First, SH3 only supports one resolution. Now they fixed that, and allow any res in SH4 but guess what, no bloody AA!!!:down: :down:

In 2007, AA is taken for granted. It's NOT something which can simply be omitted at ones leisure.

Why do the devs that make the most brilliant games always end up borking the simplest of features? :roll:

[elite_hunter_sh3]

itl be patched. just wait a month or 2:up:

[Ark]

*EDIT* Cleaning

[Ark]

itl be patched. just wait a month or 2:up:

No, it won't, unfortunately. :(

They can't/won't modify the engine in a patch.

The "smoothing" option in GRAW was HARDLY a replacement for FSAA.

Welcome to the world of "engine limitations".

[The General]

I guess we won't be seeing some of you online then, what a shame. You sound like such great guys too.

[Ark]

*EDIT* Cleaning

[nhall70]

Yea, I was afraid of this. Opinions vary, but for me...AA is simply not optional. As much as I would LOVE to play SH4, I'll have to sit this one out.

Ubisoft is definately in decline as a publisher. This is the third major game in a row released by Ubi that doesn't support a standard graphics feature that has been around now for nearly 7 years. I didn't buy GRAW, but I would have...I didn't buy Rainbow 6: Las Vegas, but I would have, and I won't buy SH4, but I would have if these titles had simply supported FSAA. By my count, Ubisoft has lost almost $200 worth of guaranteed gross revenue from just me alone! Not good for Ubi...

It's amazing to me that this is such an issue in 2007! Hell FSAA is yesterday's news. Unfortunately, I'm pretty much to the point of simply dismissing Ubisoft as a serious publisher of quality titles. Everytime I see the Ubisoft logo, my first thought is "hmmm, looks fun...but it's Ubisoft, so no AA...NEXT PLEASE".

The good news is...now I don't have to sit around for the next 3 days in agony awaiting the release of SH4!

[The General]

In film the script is everything. In computer games, gameplay is king! Look at the top 10 most-successful games of all time: Tetris, Super Mario Bros, Pac Man, etc. These are not titles known for there amazing graphics. Obviously, we've come a long way since then. Grand Theft Auto and the Battlefield series feature the latest graphical advances as well as amazing gameplay. However, these are games that have a huge user base and Deveklopers know that they'll sell alot of cpies of sequels to games like these. Sims however, are 'specialst' by comparison and thus they don't have anywhere near the same level of investment for development. The guys who created SH4 did so on a very limited budget. They had to use the SH3 engine for God's sake, and that is almost 4 years old! I think what they've created is a masterpiece! So, cut 'em some slack fellas huh?

[CCIP]

Guys, do you want to play a subsim or do you want to look at FSAA? What's wrong with you?

I agree that you've got every right to complain, but please - don't take it so far! Let Ubi know you're unhappy and list it as a glitch; I'm sure the devs will patch it if it's in their power and budget.

It's a game, not a video card benchmark. I'll be glad if I can play SHIV on 1024x768 with the FSAA off and detail mid-high - I don't think I can ask for more. And yet I'm still one of the most anxious clowns on here :p

[Drebbel]

Worried about how things look ????? Check the mirror after your first patrol

THEN you will really see some jagged edges ! :arrgh!:

[Ark]

*EDIT* For Cleaning

[Gizzmoe]

In order to have great gameplay in a Simulation, you have to be immersed in the experience. Part of immersion for a simulation is the "look and feel" of reality. If there are jaggies everywhere, it takes away from the immersion. If the immersion is reduced, the gameplay is adversely affected.
That´s your opinion! I´ve played SH4, it looks fantastic and I don´t care about the jaggies. For me it doesn´t take away from the immersion, not even close.

[Crosseye76]

Good Screen shots, Graphics look good ! Can't wait. :up:

[Ark]

*EDIT* For cleaning

[nhall70]

In film the script is everything. In computer games, gameplay is king! Look at the top 10 most-successful games of all time: Tetris, Super Mario Bros, Pac Man, etc. These are not titles known for there amazing graphics. Obviously, we've come a long way since then. Grand Theft Auto and the Battlefield series feature the latest graphical advances as well as amazing gameplay. However, these are games that have a huge user base and Deveklopers know that they'll sell alot of cpies of sequels to games like these. Sims however, are 'specialst' by comparison and thus they don't have anywhere near the same level of investment for development. The guys who created SH4 did so on a very limited budget. They had to use the SH3 engine for God's sake, and that is almost 4 years old! I think what they've created is a masterpiece! So, cut 'em some slack fellas huh?

Oh, I'm not angry...just dissapointed. I suspect the dev team did a great job with SH4. Doesn't matter...

For me (and many others, though not everyone), a lack of FSAA support is a basic, fundamental show stopper. I just can't take a game seriously that doesn't support it. For me (though not everyone), they may as well have limited SH4 to 256 colors! Actually, I'd rather have 256 colors with FSAA, than 16 million colors without FSAA! :)

[malkuth74]

Did SHIII not allow forced AA? Cause this is the first time I ever heard of a software Overiding Device Drivers if forced. I always have my drivers set to Forced. Never noticed a problem.

[gronbek]

Hey folks. Some images from SH4. All graphic options on max. 1280X1024 res.
IMHO I am a bit disappointed!:o

<edited by Drebbel: Amazing images, but moved to the Sticky Screenshots thread>

BR Anders

[Tigrone]

Off topic alert. I do apologize guys, but the entire page above has drifted away from the thread. I would like to be able to learn: who, how, and where our crewmates are getting their games. I hope to have mine about the 23rd by UPS from Amazon's Subsim link. Looks like CompUSA will not have it on their shelf for a while, since they are sold-out on pre-ordered delivery orders and have to get more in to stock the shelves. I take that to be a good sign that the game will be popular.

[Ark]

*EDIT* For cleaning

[nhall70]

Did SHIII not allow forced AA? Cause this is the first time I ever heard of a software Overiding Device Drivers if forced. I always have my drivers set to Forced. Never noticed a problem.

That's not what's happening. The method they've used for post processing certain effects places restrictions on the way the framebuffer is handled and these restrictions are incompatible with FSAA. Bottom line...no way to turn it on, forced or otherwise.

This problem has been seen and hotly debated in the forums for Ubi's last three games. Ubisoft is quickly becoming synonimous with "jaggies". ;)

The good news is, we won't have to wait forever. I'll bet you anything that SH5 will support FSAA. In the long run, they will have to start supporting it in their games, or eventually...Jaggiesoft will go out of business.

[Tigrone]

Thank you BR Anders. Beautiful shots of the Wasp and a Northhampton. I am not disappointed at all. Good hunting.

[Donner]

Off topic alert. I do apologize guys, but the entire page above has drifted away from the thread. I would like to be able to learn: who, how, and where our crewmates are getting their games. I hope to have mine about the 23rd by UPS from Amazon's Subsim link. Looks like CompUSA will not have it on their shelf for a while, since they are sold-out on pre-ordered delivery orders and half to get more in to stock the shelves. I take that to be a good sign that the game will be popular.

I compeletely agree Tigrone. This thread has run completely far from the purpose of this thread.

This thread will be unstickied and renamed shortly.

[Ark]

*EDIT* Sorry for cluttering up the thread.

Mods, go ahead and delete all my posts if that helps.

[Greentimbers]

I can't wait for SHIV. :up:
I could care less about FSAA, gameplay is what really matters to me.
I am happy with SHIII and I look forward to getting SHIV.

Thanks UBISOFT for continuing to publish games like these.:rock:

[xboxer]

Are the controls the same as SH3? Any changes or updates?

[Donner]

Thread closed.

Other discussion posts will be placed here that appear in the stickied thread above.

[gronbek]

Ok, final batch of images. Got to start playing now:rock:


<edited by Drebbel: Amazing images, but moved to the Sticky Screenshots thread>



Best Regards, Anders

[Onkel Neal]

Heres proof:
http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sh4ix9.jpg

Installing....

BOF

Thanks, BOF. I hope you enjoy SH4 :yep: