Which sub will you be most interested in?

[Aimbot]

Out of all the options? (http://www.marinesims.de/site/silent-hunter-4/sh4-35.html)
I'm tempted by the Porpoise, as I like smaller subs, but I suspect the most popular will be one of the Gato offshoots.

[canimodo]

I voted Gato cause maybe it´s the best of em ! :cool:

[Sailor Steve]

Well, actually the Balao was an improved Gato.

I voted Sargo, simply because I like S-boats but the early fleet boats have me interested now.

[CCIP]

I don't know.

But I'll play all the key types eventually!

Really, I think it's a case of S-boats vs. Early Fleet Boats vs. Fleet Boats
I expect to spend most of my time with Fleet Boats as such; otherwise it's sorta like playing the whole war in SHIII on a Type II :p

[shoot-kill-win]

I voted Balao because I like their conning towers alot more, they were much simpler than the gato conning tower in my view, and they had different types of radar than the gatos

[geetrue]

I want the latest and the best ... heck I would take a I-400 if they
were available :yep:

[Crosseye76]

Gato, just for tradition. But, of course, I'll play them all. I wanna try S-44 vs. Kako for example. :up:

[OneTinSoldier]

The Balao. It was responsible for Bungo Pete's funeral! :rock:

[leeclose]

hmm its gota be the Gato for me they seemed to be nice well rounded boats and read a lot about them as well :up: plus for me i might get to skipper the Wahoo which for me would be a dream come true :yep:

[Aimbot]

No love for the Tambor?

[Tigrone]

No love for the Tambor?

USS Tautog (SS-199). If you want a chance to run up a score, the Tambor/Gars are the ones to do it with, but remember, 7 of the 12 in the class where lost. You go out often enough to dangerous places, they are going to get you.

[Guido]

I really havent read much about any of these subs, and I have to admit I am a tad clueless on this sub class stuff.

How many crew members were roughly on each class? anyone care to educate me?

[Rilder]

That S18 and Porpoise looks cool, they all look rather simular though so I don't care :p

S18 has a nice Interior though, looks nice and open.

[leeclose]

I really havent read much about any of these subs, and I have to admit I am a tad clueless on this sub class stuff.

How many crew members were roughly on each class? anyone care to educate me?

Ok guido hope this little lot helps it's not a complete list but should give you a general idea:

Gato Class:

Displacement: 1526 tons (1550 t) surfaced,
2424 tons (2460 t) submerged
Length: 307 ft (93.6 m) waterline, 311 ft 9 in (95.0 m) overall
Beam: 27 ft 3 in (8.31 m)
Draft: 15 ft 3 in (4.65 m)
Test depth: 300 ft (90 m)
Speed: 20¼ knots (37.5 km/h) surfaced, 8¾ knots (16 km/h) submerged
Armament: 10 x 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (6 forward, 4 aft, 24 torpedoes); 1 x 3 in (76 mm)/50 cal AA gun, 2 x .50 cal (12.7 mm) and 2 x .30 cal {7.6 2mm} machineguns)
Crew: 80 – 85 officers and men
Powerplant: •4 x 1350 hp (1 MW) 16 cyl General Motors 278A diesel engines (except SS228-239 and SS275-284 10cyl Fairbanks-Morse 38D-1/8), •2 x 1370 hp (1020 kW) General Electric electric motors (except SS228-235 Elliott Motor or SS257-264 Allis-Chalmers) (two 126-cell Exide main storage batteries {except SS.261, 275-278, & 280 Gould})
two shafts
Range: •11,800 nm at 10 knots (21,900 km at 19 km/h) surfaced
100 nm at 3 knots (185 km at 5.6 km/h) (maximum) submerged
Submerged Endurance:
48 hours

Tambor Class:

Lead boat: USS Tambor (SS-198)
Builders: Electric Boat (SS 198-200; 206-208), Portsmouth (SS 201,202,209,210), Mare Island (SS 203, 211)
Number of boats: 12 boats ordered in 1939-1940
Displacement: 1,475 tons (surfaced); 2,370 tons (submerged)
Length: 307 ft 8 in (93.8 m)
Beam: 27 ft 3 in (8.3 m)
Draft: 15 ft (4.6 m) surfaced trim
Speed: 20 knots (37 km/h) surfaced; 9 knots (17 km/h) submerged
Test depth: 250 ft (75 m)
Range: 12,000 nautical miles at 10 knots (18,000 km at 19 km/h) surfaced
Endurance (submerged): 48 hours
Fuel capacity: 93,993 to 96,365 US gallons (356 to 365 m³)
Patrol endurance: 75 days
Propulsion:' 4 x 1350 hp (1 MW) diesel engines (General Motors in SS 198-200 & 206-208, Fairbanks-Morse in SS 201-203 & 209-211); two 1370hp (1020kW) General Electric electric motors
Complement: 6 officers, 54 enlisted
Deck Gun: 1 x 3 in (76 mm)/50 calibre, 2x0.5" (12.7mm) & 2x0.3" (7.62mm) machineguns
Torpedo tubes: 10 x 21 in (533 mm) (6 forward, four aft, 24 torpedoes)

Salmon Class:

Displacement: 1449 tons surfaced, 2198 tons submerged
Length: 308ft (93.9m) overall
Beam: 26 ft 3in (8m)
Draft: 14 ft 3in (4.34m)
Test depth: 250ft (91.4m)
Speed: 21 knots (39 km/h) surfaced, 9 knots (16.7 km/h) submerged
Armament: 8 x 21 in (53cm) torpedo tubes (4 forward, 4 aft, 24 torpedoes); 1 x 4 in (102mm)/50 caliber deck gun (except Sturgeon 1 x 3in (76mm)/50 caliber AA deck gun), 2x0.5" (12.7mm) & 2x0.3" (7.62mm) machineguns
Crew: 70 officers and men
Powerplant: 4 x 1375 hp (1025kW) General Motors (Snapper, Stingray, & Sturgeon) or H.O.R. (Salmon, Seal, & Skipjack) diesel engines, 2 x 1650 hp (1230kW) Elliott Motor electric motors
Range: 11,800 nautical miles (21,900 km) at 10 knots (19 km/h) surfaced

Sargo Class:

Displacement: 1450 tons surfaced, 2350 tons submerged
Length: 310 feet 6 inches
Beam: 26 feet 10 inches
Draft: 16 feet 7 inches
Engines: four 1535 hp main diesel engines, two 258 kw auxiliaries diesels, four 685 hp electric motors
Speed: 21 knots (surfaced), 8.75 knots (submerged)
Range: 11,000 miles
Depth: 250 feet
Complement: 5 officers, 50 men
Armament: eight 21-inch torpedo tubes (four forward, four aft), 24 torpedoes, one three-inch/50-caliber deck gun, two .50-caliber machine guns, two .30-caliber machine guns
Tang Class:
Displacement: 1560-2050 tons surfaced, 2260-2700 tons submerged
Dimensions: 268 feet, extended to 287 feet, then to 302 feet
Beam: 27 feet
Draft: 17 feet
Armament: six 21-inch torpedo tubes forward, two aft
Propulsion: twin shaft, electric motor, GM 16-338 "pancake" engines replaced by Fairbanks 38D8-1/8 opposed piston engines
Speed: 15.5 knots surfaced, 18.3 knots submerged
Endurance: one hour at 17.5 knots on battery; 10,000 nautical miles at 10 knots on snorkel
Depth: 700 feet
Complement: eight officers, 75 men

Balao Class:

Class type: diesel-electric submarine
Displacement: 1,526 tons (1550 t) surfaced
2424 tons (2460 t) (except SS.285-291 2414 and SS.3308-312 & SS.381-404 2391 and SS.405-410 2401 tons) submerged
Length: 307 ft (93.6 m) waterline,
311 ft 9 in (95 m) overall
Beam: 27 ft 3 in (8.31 m)
Draft: 15 ft 3 in (4.65 m)
Propulsion and power: •four 1,350 hp (1010 kW) 16-cylinder General Motors 278A diesel engines (except SS.292-312 and SS.381-416 10cyl Fairbanks-Morse 38D-1/8)
two 1,370 hp (1,020 kW) General Electric electric motors (except SS292-312 and SS381-416 Elliott Motor) (two 126-cell Exide main storage batteries) (except SS.292-298, 300-303, 312, 361-364, 367-369, 377-380, & 410 Gould)
two shafts
Speed: 20.25 knots (37.5 km/h) surfaced
8.75 knots (16 km/h) submerged
Range: 11,800 nm at 10 knots (21,900 km at 19 km/h) surfaced
100 nm at 3 knots (185 km at 5.6 km/h) (maximum) submerged
Endurance: 48 hours submerged
Test depth: 400 ft (122 m) (except SS361-364, 300 ft {91m})
Complement: 80 – 85 officers and men
Armament: • 10 × 21 in (53 cm) torpedo tubes (6 forward, 4 aft, 24 torpedoes)
1 × 4 in (102 mm) / 50 caliber deck gun (in SS.285-291)
= 1×5 in (12.7 cm) / 25 cal (in rest)
1×40 mm AA cannon (except in SS.361-364)
1 × 3 in (76 mm) / 50 cal AA gun (in SS.361-364)
1×20 mm AA cannon (SS.313-360 & SS.365-416 only)
2×0.5" (12.7 mm) machine guns (except SS.361-364)
2×0.3" (7.62 mm) machine guns (in SS.361-364

[AJ!]

S class all the way :D

[Iron Budokan]

Well, to be honest I don't know enough about any of them to make an intelligent choice. I've heard of Gatos most often, though, so I voted for them. (I also played that platform on the old Silent Service II.)

[leeclose]

Ole Silent service 2 now that was 1990 great game did u ever play SS1 or AOTD and yes i am a old fart:up:

[Binky1st]

None of them, any sub that is not German is GAY:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Guido]

thats fantastic lee thankyou muchly............ :know: :up:

[leeclose]

Any time mate its nice to be nice as my gran tought me:up:

[AVGWarhawk]

Tench Class;)

I do like the porpoise class!

[STEED]

The Balao :rock:

[FooFighters]

When I started with SH4 Balao was my first chooise..

Along the way I fell in love with that crazy looking Sargo..
Those strange bulbs on the back, beautiful tower..

My command for 19 patrols, USS Spearfish :sunny:
http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/extra/comp2.jpg

[MorganThePirate]

I preferred the Gato Class. I created a new skin under the name of USS Rasher (SS-269). The Rasher was one of the best USS subs during the WWII in the pacific :yep: . You can find information at http://www.ibiblio.net/hyperwar/USN/ships/SS/SS-269_Rasher.html (http://www.ibiblio.net/hyperwar/USN/ships/SS/SS-269_Rasher.html) :hmm:
Also there is good book by Peter T Sasgen “Red Scorpion: The war Patrols of the USS Rasher”.:arrgh!:

[Rockin Robbins]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/RockinRobbins13/Silent%20Hunter%204/BalaoRedfin4.jpg

[Peto]

I hate to do this but I can't resist commenting that the Redfin (pictured above) was a Gato class ;).

My favorite? Start the war in an S or a Porpoise in Pearl and look forward to upgrading as I can. I kind of prefer the Gato though. It's test depth of 300 feet means I'll take it to 400 in a pinch and the escorts can still give a little trouble there. At 500 feet in a Balao though, it's too easy to get away to be challenging.

Cheers!

[ReallyDedPoet]

Balao for me as well :yep: Although I enjoy playing them all :up:


RDP

[SteminDemon13]

Balao for me. Hey Rockin Robbins, how do you customize your sub like that? I want to add the battle flag for my USS Balao (and update it for my kills) and also do a similar design as you have for the bow.

[Caseck]

SARGO because my first patrol on a HARD campaign, I torpedoed the Kongo with her!

4 tubes fore and 4 tubes aft combo I like. Makes for a nice broadside fan...

[Reaves]

S class all the way.


It's odd, with the U-boats I loved the IX but for some reason when it comes to fleet boats I just can't turn down an old rust bucket like the S-42.

[pythos]

Early war, S boat. Just a fun, almost Type 2 like boat (though really closer to a type 7 minus the rear torpedo. I like the older style hull with the vertical bow, and fish like fins. The S-24 later on has a neat looking yet ugly tower. But this boat simply cannot keep up with faster convoys.

Mid war? Any of the early fleet boats really. They really look the same, aside from the sargo with the muffler bumps.

Late war, Gato, or Balao. They just look and operate awesome. The Balao great for hitting a convoy and diving deep under the layer.

[Raptor22ADF]

S-class for me. :cool:

[Winston Caine]

voted Tambor, I actually prefer Gar

Fast enough, deadly enough. Why bother waiting for the Balao?:arrgh!:

[melin71]

i like the S class, the other subs look allmost the same, like a volvo 240, in diffrent models..but everything else looks the same, dont even notich what sub i have beside how many tubs i got. in S class its diffrent.

[DeepSix]

Where's Tench?;)

[Sniper31]

I'm a Tambor fan myself. I guess it has something to do with the beginning stages of combat patrols against Japan, the excitement that comes with finding your way against a new enemy. The early fleet boats were so untested in combat, that there were so many 'discoveries' being made on war patrol's. It all makes for some gripping encounters and good stories.:-?

[cdrsubron7]

Tambor class for me also, especially the USS Tambor SS-198. She was my first command many years ago when I first joined the PTC. :yep:

[aanker]

I've always had a soft spot for S-39 (SS-144) but I voted GATO class. Right now I'm commanding USS SCAMP (SS-277)

Happy Hunting & Merry Christmas!

Art

[Charlielima]

S-42 Class. Current carreer in the S-46, SS-157. link@ http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08157.htm
It seems I eat less depth charges In S boats then the larger fleet boats in both Silent Service 2 and SH4. Less detectable to active or passive acoustic sensors? CL

[Captain Vlad]

Loving the Balao I've got right now, but my best SH IV moments seem to mostly be with the Sargo class. Was planning on taking one for my next career when I finally try manual targetting.

[Bale]

Aye, the Tambor is a fine Sub... but I like alle Boats in the Game. :arrgh!:

[Raptor22ADF]

Originally I said S-Class. Of late, however, I've been stacking the deck with the most capable sub at my disposal for that fun, a-historical feel.

:sunny: