SHGen and SH3Commander - How often?

[Sgian Dubh]

I am just curious as to how often others run these programs.

1 per patrol? Do you always start SHIII through SH3C? What gives the best immersion/gameplay?

Thanks!

[Jimbuna]

I commence my career with SH3 Cmdr and run SH3 Gen once per patrol :arrgh!:

[Linavitch]

I commence my career with SH3 Cmdr and run SH3 Gen once per patrol :arrgh!:

Exactly the same for me.

[Kumando]

I commence my career with SH3 Cmdr and run SH3 Gen once per patrol :arrgh!:

Me 2.

[Sgian Dubh]

That's what I had been doing, but then I ran across a post that seemed to suggest running SH3C everytime I started up.

Thanks!

[Linavitch]

That's what I had been doing, but then I ran across a post that seemed to suggest running SH3C everytime I started up.

Thanks!

Right. I get what you mean now. I use S3hC every time I load SH3. Don't know if you 'need' to but it keeps the desktop tidier with one shortcut.

[Mooncatt]

i always start up sh3 using sh3commander but whats sh3gen????

[ReallyDedPoet]

but whats sh3gen????
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=88438

Look here:up:

Sh3Gen is an external patrol engine for Silent Hunter III. It is reading and analyzing the main application files, adds historic and geospatial data and writes back an updated patrol information into a savegame. The new information shows up on reload of the savegame, in the ingame map and wardiary.

From that thread.

[Steppenwolf]

I run SH3 via SH3 Commander every time. At the least, you should run it at the start of every patrol. This allows Sh3 Commander to update everything (like the recently released GWX skin pack) to the appropriate values for that date. If you only run it once at the start of your career (say your career started in Sept 1939), when you are on your umpteenth patrol in late 1941, everything (Radio .wav files, Text at start of patrol, ship skins) will still be the same as in September 1939.

Just as importantly, the non-date dependent random variables will not reset. i.e. Thermal Layers, Destroyer's Lost Contact time before abandoning a search etc., would never change and be exactly the same from patrol to patrol. For these reasons, I'd suggest running it EVERY time you load SH3, as it will provide more variability even within a single patrol.

[Sgian Dubh]

Ah. I didn't correctly understand all that SH3C does. I will try running by using it each time and see what it is like.

Thanks!

[Jimbuna]

Ah. I didn't correctly understand all that SH3C does. I will try running by using it each time and see what it is like.

Thanks!

Always load up your game with SH3 Cmdr :yep: :up: :arrgh!:

[Mooncatt]

but whats sh3gen????
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=88438

Look here:up:

Sh3Gen is an external patrol engine for Silent Hunter III. It is reading and analyzing the main application files, adds historic and geospatial data and writes back an updated patrol information into a savegame. The new information shows up on reload of the savegame, in the ingame map and wardiary.

From that thread.

oh balls i dont have that boooo, i cant get ith neither no net at home :damn:

[ReallyDedPoet]

but whats sh3gen????
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=88438

Look here:up:

Sh3Gen is an external patrol engine for Silent Hunter III. It is reading and analyzing the main application files, adds historic and geospatial data and writes back an updated patrol information into a savegame. The new information shows up on reload of the savegame, in the ingame map and wardiary.

From that thread.
oh balls i dont have that boooo, i cant get ith neither no net at home :damn:

No internet cafes or community providers you can go to d\l:yep:

[JScones]

I recommend using SH3Cmdr to launch SH3 *every* time, particularly when playing careers (in port, at sea, doesn't matter).

Doing so will ensure that you always get the latest settings and tweaks relevant to your career and time period *every* time.

[Foghladh_mhara]

Is the sh3gen info relative to where you load it up? I mean if you load 200km from port as recommended it gives you a certain suspected location for convoys etc. If you load it at your patrol area does it still give the same info or does it update the positions allowing for time?

[ReallyDedPoet]

Is the sh3gen info relative to where you load it up? I mean if you load 200km from port as recommended it gives you a certain suspected location for convoys etc. If you load it at your patrol area does it still give the same info or does it update the positions allowing for time?

Hey mate, check out this link, read the " quick start guide " before you try for the first time, that should help:up:

http://www.global-explorer.de/

[GlobalExplorer]

Is the sh3gen info relative to where you load it up? I mean if you load 200km from port as recommended it gives you a certain suspected location for convoys etc. If you load it at your patrol area does it still give the same info or does it update the positions allowing for time?

Sh3Gen reads the current date from your savegame and randomizes all units / groups in a certain timeframe around that date (usually +/- 2-3 weeks). The position has only a slight impact on the intelligence data, not much (I raise the intel level for that TOO by a certain value, maybe 10%). More important is that every theater of operation has a different set of intelligence parameters depending from the period. So for instance you will have very good intelligence for US East Coast during Operation Drumbeat but not in 1939 or after 1943. Intelligence randomization in Sh3Gen is actually quite complex but it seems to work well, as I never get any complaints about that ..

And to answer the question of the initial poster, it is designed to be run once, at the beginning of the patrol, but you can re-run it as many times as you want.

GE

[ReallyDedPoet]

Is the sh3gen info relative to where you load it up? I mean if you load 200km from port as recommended it gives you a certain suspected location for convoys etc. If you load it at your patrol area does it still give the same info or does it update the positions allowing for time?
Sh3Gen reads the current date from your savegame and randomizes all units / groups in a certain timeframe around that date (usually +/- 2-3 weeks). The position has only a slight impact on the intelligence data, not much (I raise the intel level for that TOO by a certain value, maybe 10%). More important is that every theater of operation has a different set of intelligence parameters depending from the period. So for instance you will have very good intelligence for US East Coast during Operation Drumbeat but not in 1939 or after 1943. Intelligence randomization in Sh3Gen is actually quite complex but it seems to work well, as I never get any complaints about that ..

And to answer the question of the initial poster, it is designed to be run once, at the beginning of the patrol, but you can re-run it as many times as you want.

GE

There's youir definitive answer. Great program GE:up:

[Jimbuna]

I commence my career with SH3 Cmdr and run SH3 Gen once per patrol :arrgh!:

Thank the Lord there matey :lol: