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dean_acheson
03-03-07, 03:47 PM
I guess this is a continuance of the gun owner thread... lol


http://msunderestimated.com/WAShunsNASCAR.wmv

SUBMAN1
03-03-07, 03:54 PM
I guess this is a continuance of the gun owner thread... lol


http://msunderestimated.com/WAShunsNASCAR.wmv

Typical of our state legislator. Nice. Of course, i already heard the news a while ago.

-S

Bort
03-03-07, 04:06 PM
I'm not exactly certain how some state lawmaker represents the views of an entire national party, but whatever. On a side note I do find NASCAR to be an extremely boring form of racing. I prefer motor sports where both left and RIGHT turns are involved, like Formula One (I know there are a few road courses in NASCAR but they are by far the exception to the rule). Plus the cars they use in NASCAR are embarrassingly low tech and slow compared to F1 cars.:roll:

SUBMAN1
03-03-07, 04:12 PM
I'm not exactly certain how some state lawmaker represents the views of an entire national party, but whatever. On a side note I do find NASCAR to be an extremely boring form of racing. I prefer motor sports where both left and RIGHT turns are involved, like Formula One (I know there are a few road courses in NASCAR but they are by far the exception to the rule). Plus the cars they use in NASCAR are embarrassingly low tech and slow compared to F1 cars.:roll:

I agree on all points!

I would also love F1 around here. NASCAR is way too restricted, but still NASCAR is better than nothing! Anyway, I can wish I guess.

-S

PS. I'm about as far away from Redneck as you can get, yet I still would love to go see a NASCAR race locally. I am still grasping with how they came up with their logic. One thing I am noticing though, there is a definite divide between North and South - almost civil war like. That is scary.

Bort
03-03-07, 04:25 PM
I would also love F1 around here. NASCAR is way too restricted, but still NASCAR is better than nothing! Anyway, I can wish I guess.


There is a US Grand Prix, but it's at Indianapolis, which already has the 500 and the NASCAR race, so it doesn't seem to interest too many people. If F1 want to build US fans, they should hold the US Grand Prix as a road track race in a major city. F1 cars screaming through downtown Chicago looks great in my imagination!:hmm:

bradclark1
03-03-07, 05:02 PM
Sounds to me it's a not around my city sport. It happened in Connecticut also, around Plainfield. Not around my town either thank you.
As far as the political bent to it #1 it's from fox and #2 look at the signature.:roll:

U-533
03-03-07, 05:06 PM
I would also love F1 around here. NASCAR is way too restricted, but still NASCAR is better than nothing! Anyway, I can wish I guess.


There is a US Grand Prix, but it's at Indianapolis, which already has the 500 and the NASCAR race, so it doesn't seem to interest too many people. If F1 want to build US fans, they should hold the US Grand Prix as a road track race in a major city. F1 cars screaming through downtown Chicago looks great in my imagination!:hmm:

I volunteer Jacksonville Fl. ............ But I don't think any of the Redneck Inbreds here would allow it.:roll:

If it involves more than "GO FAST TURN LEFT", beer, and hooters then its beyond them.

Shaffer4
03-03-07, 05:29 PM
There hasn't been any good Formula One since the days of Clark, Gurney, and Brabham. ( yes, the Pre-Aero stuff ). Same with Na$car, not since the early 70's before the C.I limitations and the rest of the changes that resulted in the Modern "Stock" Car having no resemblance to their Real Life counterparts.

Sailor Steve
03-03-07, 06:01 PM
If F1 want to build US fans, they should hold the US Grand Prix as a road track race in a major city. F1 cars screaming through downtown Chicago looks great in my imagination!:hmm:
There already have been US Grands Prix in several cities, on the streets, mostly in the '70s. Las Vegas, Dallas, a whole string of them at Long Beach, California. The most recent city races were in Detroit in the '90s. The best were in the '60s on the race track at Watkins Glen, New York. Most of those years there were two US races, and once there were even three.

We have a brand new world-class circuit just outside of Salt Lake City, but I don't think anybody would come.

ASWnut101
03-03-07, 09:11 PM
PS. I'm about as far away from Redneck as you can get, yet I still would love to go see a NASCAR race locally. I am still grasping with how they came up with their logic. One thing I am noticing though, there is a definite divide between North and South - almost civil war like. That is scary.


:cool: :cool: :cool:


"...Born and Raised...."







J/K! I'll stop now.:lol:

dean_acheson
03-03-07, 11:33 PM
I went to college in the South, and loved it there.

As to NASCAR vs. F1, I guess it is a matter of taste. I love the sound, power, and beauty of the F1 cars, but the races bore me.

In a cup race the lead changes hands many many more times. The cars can touch each other and not be ruined for the race, etc.

Guess it is kinda the difference between liking NFL vs. everyone else's football.

I figure what I take from that news story is that liberals are all about 'inclusion' and 'tolerance' unless it comes to Anglo/Christian/Southerners. The type of snottiness exhibited in the story is all too common among mainstream Democrats.

Bort
03-03-07, 11:45 PM
I figure what I take from that news story is that liberals are all about 'inclusion' and 'tolerance' unless it comes to Anglo/Christian/Southerners. The type of snottiness exhibited in the story is all too common among mainstream Democrats.

What I take from this story is that Fox News is all too willing to do their best to reinforce that stereotype.:roll:

I'm sure that there are plenty of Republicans that can't stand NASCAR, and there are plenty of Democrats that love it. It seems to me that political leanings probably are not the crucial determining factor in whether or not you like to watch cars drive around in circles for hours on end.

Camaero
03-04-07, 12:14 AM
They seem like such snotty Starbucks drinkin New York/Hollywood types to me. I'm not even from the south but I pretty much love all the so called "redneck stuff". :rock: At least they are not stuck up.

Also, I love Nascar for its tight racing and usually exciting finishes. Of course there are a few bummer races, but you have that with all racing. Personally, I don't really like the high tech indy car stuff, but I mean, these things are supposed to be close (even though they are not) to your average car. Indy cars are supposed to be the top of the line speed machines that push the envelope of technology. Nascar would suffer if it tried to go that route cause part of what makes it so cool is to watch em rub and bang and keep racin.

I pretty much like anything with an engine in it that goes fast, so I love sprint cars, stock cars, indy cars, dragsters, etc... give me one, i'll drive it!:rock:

SUBMAN1
03-04-07, 05:57 PM
They seem like such snotty Starbucks drinkin New York/Hollywood types to me. I'm not even from the south but I pretty much love all the so called "redneck stuff". :rock: At least they are not stuck up.

Also, I love Nascar for its tight racing and usually exciting finishes. Of course there are a few bummer races, but you have that with all racing. Personally, I don't really like the high tech indy car stuff, but I mean, these things are supposed to be close (even though they are not) to your average car. Indy cars are supposed to be the top of the line speed machines that push the envelope of technology. Nascar would suffer if it tried to go that route cause part of what makes it so cool is to watch em rub and bang and keep racin.

I pretty much like anything with an engine in it that goes fast, so I love sprint cars, stock cars, indy cars, dragsters, etc... give me one, i'll drive it!:rock:

Sorry - all races will now suck compared to the last Daytona 500. How can you have a more phot finish than that? Not only were the first and second cars inches apart across the finish line (a real nail biter), everyone else following crashed across the line! One guy upside down on his roof and burning went across the line and still placed 18th!!!

Sailor Steve
03-04-07, 06:05 PM
When comparing American and European racing, all you have to do is look at their roots.

The first scheduled, organized motoring event was the Paris-Rouen rally in 1894. It ran several hundred miles over country roads. Later races were also over open roads or in cities until they started building racetracks, which were made to look like roads, hence "road courses".

When Americans first started racing (about the same time, of course, but without the organizers and prizes), they took their cars down to...the local horse track!

There you have it!:sunny:

SUBMAN1
03-04-07, 06:30 PM
When comparing American and European racing, all you have to do is look at their roots.

The first scheduled, organized motoring event was the Paris-Rouen rally in 1894. It ran several hundred miles over country roads. Later races were also over open roads or in cities until they started building racetracks, which were made to look like roads, hence "road courses".

When Americans first started racing (about the same time, of course, but without the organizers and prizes), they took their cars down to...the local horse track!

There you have it!:sunny:

And whom ever said History doesn't repeast itself? :know:

-S

stabiz
03-04-07, 06:31 PM
Yes, but I still dont get Nascar. I have started following it a bit because of Juan Pablo Montoya (one of my fav F1-drivers), but ... well ... they just go round and round.

My ex girlfriend always complained when I watched F1. "They just go round and round", but in Nascar they actually do. I usually hope for a crash.

For me real racing is F1, WTCC, DTM and the likes.

SUBMAN1
03-04-07, 06:37 PM
Yes, but I still dont get Nascar. I have started following it a bit because of Juan Pablo Montoya (one of my fav F1-drivers), but ... well ... they just go round and round.

My ex girlfriend always complained when I watched F1. "They just go round and round", but in Nascar they actually do. I usually hope for a crash.

For me real racing is F1, WTCC, DTM and the likes.

Thats probably why people watch it - NASCAR is almost guaranteed a crash every race.

-S

dean_acheson
03-04-07, 08:22 PM
Yes, but I still dont get Nascar. I have started following it a bit because of Juan Pablo Montoya (one of my fav F1-drivers), but ... well ... they just go round and round.

My ex girlfriend always complained when I watched F1. "They just go round and round", but in Nascar they actually do. I usually hope for a crash.

For me real racing is F1, WTCC, DTM and the likes.

Did you see JPM win the NASCAR race today at the Mexico City road course?
:rotfl: :rotfl: :D

stabiz
03-04-07, 08:54 PM
:huh: Wow, I didnt think he would win that fast! (never get to see Nascar live up here)

El Gordo is back!


(Yes, I know some Nascar races are on road tracks)

Camaero
03-04-07, 09:02 PM
Good job JPM! His team mate didn't seem too happy though.:oops:

stabiz
03-05-07, 08:48 AM
Its not the first time Juan does that. :rotfl:

fred8615
03-05-07, 05:28 PM
Typical, stuck up, holier than thou attitude. Do these morons even know about Greg Biffle? From Washington state; won 5 races in one season a couple of years ago?