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Ducimus

03-03-07, 02:36 PM

With SH4 not far away, some of us are probably going to drop SH3 like a lead brick, but after months of playing, i can't help but feel the need for a final ride on this ole plowhorse called SH3, but the questions... what?

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Im stuck between 1 and 2. I've always wanted to do a realistc career with U505, but ive its basically the same gameplay ive always done. so 2 is appealing. I'd be amiss to not play the type21 at all, and havent touched it in well over a year now.

Torplexed

03-03-07, 02:42 PM

I'll be playing SH4 in the blue Pacific too...but I have every confidence I'll be re-visiting the grey Atlantic at times. I find no WW2 naval theater uninteresting for long. :cool: Just hope they don't come up with a Japanese midget sub sim. Underwater kamikaze doesn't appeal very much.

elite_hunter_sh3

03-03-07, 02:46 PM

FOR the Fuher and for the fatherland!!!! 1 last campaing on full realism and full accuracy in a type viic in the atlantic (im more if a ixb fan) but ever since das boot deep down inside i have a love for the viic, a major reason cuz of its cool sleek looks):smug:

SH3 and SH4:rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock: keep em coming ubi :arrgh!:

Kumando

03-03-07, 02:47 PM

I will always play Sh3, U-boats have a feeling that no way the pacif theatre has.

bigboywooly

03-03-07, 03:27 PM

Yep SHIII still here too
PTO interests me none :down:

kiwi_2005

03-03-07, 03:30 PM

Waiting for SHIV. But if i was going to run one last camaign i would go all out with a XXI.

kiwi_2005

03-03-07, 03:38 PM

I will always play Sh3, U-boats have a feeling that no way the pacif theatre has.

ahh i disagree, although i like the Uboats. Yet i think SHIV is going to be a winner - more things to do in patrols, like rescue down pilots, taking scope shots of ports ,<-- im guessing on that last statement., Pacific Aces mod for SHII was a blast from the past and really prolonged the game back then just like what GW is doing now for SH3.

Out in the pacific in a Gato is going to be a good change.

Nor will i delete SH3 she'll still be on my hdd just in case i need an atlantic fix. :D

melnibonian

03-03-07, 03:57 PM

For me it will porbably be GWX for a long time in the future. I am interested in the Pacific theater (not as much as in the Atlantic though) but I will not pay good money to buy a half-made game by Ubisoft again. Also i am not willing to upgrade my computer just to play a game. Hopefully at some point in the future when SH4 is heavily moded and bug free I might get tempted, but until that day is GWX all the way for me.

Corsair

03-03-07, 05:01 PM

I went for nr 4. Have little interest in submarine operations in the PTO (I spent a lot more time with Carriers at War and Uncommon Valor there) and anyway it would mean PC upgrade or new machine which is not planned for now.
Also would hardly find time for another game these days (besides SH3 which I wouldn't stop anyway, still messing around with Combat Mission Pbems, online Falcon 4 AF and IL2 flights, and playing again Operation Flashpoint with last FFUR2007/SLX mod...)

Respenus

03-03-07, 05:05 PM

I'll be playing SH4. Can't wait to set my mission editor with two oppising battleships. Should make for some nice screens. But I'm not the right to be speaking here, as I haven't toucher SH3 since the first week of GWX Beta testing :shifty:

The Munster

03-03-07, 05:19 PM

Pacific doesn't interest me one little bit. A U-Boat has a certain romanticism to me [and yes, 'romanticism' is probably not the right word] but more of a 'feeling' that I just wouldn't get in the Pacific no matter what 'bells and whistles' SH4 had to offer.

leeclose

03-03-07, 05:37 PM

I'm looking forward to 4 but and heres the but i have always been a big u-boat fan so i will be using a 4 as im bored and want a change type of game. The pacific theatre was kinda like ww2's version of space invaders fire a fish any where and you would sink a jap tub, the atlantic theatre was much more involved bring on the wolf pack:up:

Sailor Steve

03-03-07, 05:39 PM

I said this just the other day on a similar thread: I will probably love SH4, but I won't stop playing SH3 until a newer, greater version comes out.

leeclose

03-03-07, 05:41 PM

I said this just the other day on a similar thread: I will probably love SH4, but I won't stop playing SH3 until a newer, greater version comes out. Here Here:up:

Wulfmann

03-03-07, 05:54 PM

For one I intend on waiting for some of you to beta test SH4 and help UBI make the patches so when I buy it (for less money by then) ir will be greatly improved.
But, my big part of the CFS3-MAW project is at hand so will likely not be doing much SH3 before I join the US Navy hoping to hide my U-Boat German accent.
Are you an American, sir,
Ja, Ich bin Amerikaner! errrr I mean Babe Ruth sure as shootin I'm a Yank!!!

I do hope to finish this 1940 started GWX-SH3 career which is in the Spring of 43 now and it may be my last.
I may prefer the U-Boats but the better graphics and improved game will likely win me over.
Still, to date SH3 is the best game I have ever played and even though GWX is better the careers in my highly tweaked TGW will be the best careers in any game I have ever done.

Let us not forget an important point for a future U-Boat sim.

SH4 must be a success to insure that next back to the Atlantic SH5.:hmm:

Wulfmann

Ducimus

03-03-07, 05:58 PM

Well, i just decided what I'm gonna do, Ill give ya all three guesses, and your first two don't count.

http://www.ducimus.net/sh3/modern21.jpg

I helped fix the M' Fer, over a year ago, i may as well play it for once. :roll:

In all seriousness.. im burnt out on SH3. NOTHING to do but sink ships. I like sub sims, but i need alternative modes of play. Photo recons, pilot rescues, commando drops etc. Ive (and quite a few others here) have played SH3 for ummm.. years? (how long has it been out now anyway?)

For me, its time for something new, and the new stuff can't get here quick enough.

That and well, for me, The Gato is what got me into sub sims to begin with. Reading about it and such. ( Hmm, come to think of it, this is probably why ive sat my ass in type9 uboats and rarely type7. ) Honestly I only played Atlantic Uboats because there was simply no other sim available for the longest time (SH1 to me was a letdown after AOD). It took it awhile for atlantic german uboats to grow on me, and now i probably know more about uboats then i do gato's. Kinda wierd how that works out.

leeclose

03-03-07, 06:16 PM

I would lurv SH5 to either be WW1 u boat sim or for once to get control of a RN sub during wwii now that could be fun.:up:

STEED

03-03-07, 06:20 PM

I am in no rush to buy SH4 I shall wait till the price comes down, as for SH3 I will never give it up unless they come out with a even greater version of it.

leeclose

03-03-07, 06:26 PM

Well 25 quid in the UK seems kinda reasonable for the moment plus me being a lazy git and it gets delivered to my door:up:

U-Schultz

03-03-07, 06:36 PM

I hope to keep playing both but that voting choice was not an option.

SH4 will have to put on the greatest show since the Marines took Iwo Jima for me to completely drop SH3.

leeclose

03-03-07, 06:39 PM

SH4 will have to put on the greatest show since the Marines took Iwo Jima for me to completely drop SH3. Now that is exactly my sentiment as well :up:

Brag

03-03-07, 06:48 PM

As a bit of a lete comer into SHIII, I still have lots of mileage left with GWX. So if I go into the PTO, I'll be late there, too :88)

KrvKpt. Falke

03-03-07, 07:11 PM

A game about world war 2 without Germans is not a game about world war 2 :D
I'M staying with Donitz boys. [For me its the same situation as with MOH Allied Assault and Pacific Assault: the Pacific one was nice but i didn't feel anything great - just a shooter; i'm from Europe - so maybe this is the reason why i cant immerse into Pacific...]
I will buy SH4 when it will be cheaper and patched but i will not leave SH3.

leeclose

03-03-07, 07:16 PM

I think that seems to be the general consent with most Europeans SH3 could have been so much more ubi knew this but left it to us the community to make sh3 the game that it is with out the ilk of GWX etc sh3 would be just another tired ole sub sim:up: . But being a sad git i would play it even if there was no GWX which im gload there is by the way:yep:

ReallyDedPoet

03-03-07, 08:36 PM

Dimitrius07

03-03-07, 09:11 PM

I have a bad feeling about Silent hunter 4, my feeling sad that the game will come with many bugs (you know what i talking about). I will not buy it until some proper patches came out :nope: .

Second - i don`t think that the new game will be as much realistic as a modded sh3 (NYGM and GWX). I will stay with sh3 for me grafics is not important the gameplay is important:rock: :up: .

leeclose

03-03-07, 09:45 PM

I hope they have learned there lessons with SH3 and implement them in 4 but who the hell am i kidding there will be more bugs than a ant hill:up:

sunvalleyslim

03-03-07, 09:49 PM

It's amazing to me to see the way the votes go. Obvious to me is the attitude of "Brits". They seem to be stuck with "their side of the pond". And given history, having no problem playing the "enemy". The allure of Germany is great.
Now don't get me wrong. I built German U-Boat models as a kid. I loved the look of the German uniform, their nationalism, just about everything they had was the best. But hey I was an American far removed the the Battle.
Patriotism for ones country runs deep. And as a kid growing up and watching "The Silent Service" series on Tv, depicting US Submarines in WWII, I was hooked.
So hooked, that I joined the United States Submarine Service and served aboard a WWII submarine. Are there differences between the two oceans? Certainly, each brings about it, different warfares...in essence, they got what they got.
So whether you buy the game now, wait until later, or wait til much later, you will play it. Just so you know what it is about.
To me I love SH3, Hell I love you guys for the fact that you love subs. But I just gotta play SH4 to see if it will make me feel like I came back home.
Just for the difference in the two, and the graphics, I know at sometime you will play SH4. Just like I will always come back and play SH3....It's in your blood..

Gezoes

03-03-07, 09:50 PM

I hope to keep playing both but that voting choice was not an option.

SH4 will have to put on the greatest show since the Marines took Iwo Jima for me to completely drop SH3.
Gonna play SH4, but SH3 install is here to stay:up:
Ain't that the truth :up:

SH3 is my game. SH4 will be as well. Simple. Who knows what will be or not... it's US boats coming up, so who knows what might happen to sales... :know:

Remember kaleuns: First we pop up the persicope, then we shoot. Let's see it first. Who cares about a few bugs, the fact that it is even being made is more than enough for me right now! :cool:

Torplexed

03-03-07, 10:07 PM

What's interesting is that you don't see to many people for whom the Pacific sub campaign is the sole overwhelming interest. Europeans for the most part tend to be interested in the Atlantic. Americans trend toward their sub war in the Pacific, but can be just as keen on the epic struggle in the Atlantic.

I'm still waiting for that British Mediterranean subsim some day. There's a niche market in a niche market. :cool:

Eagle Eye

03-03-07, 10:13 PM

I'm still fairly new to SH3 and GWX so I'll be in the Atlantic for the foreseeable future. I'm sure at some point I'll pick up SH4

gdogghenrikson

03-03-07, 10:16 PM

I will always play Sh3, U-boats have a feeling that no way the pacif theatre has.

I totally agree, plus GWX will keep this game alive

P_Funk

03-03-07, 10:23 PM

If there is going to be a comprehensive source code development kit released would it be a crazy idea that someone would make the Atlantic war in the SH4 game system?

GT182

03-03-07, 10:26 PM

I am in no rush to buy SH4 I shall wait till the price comes down, as for SH3 I will never give it up unless they come out with a even greater version of it.

Steed, you hit the nail on the head. :up: My sentiments exactly. :yep:

The only thing I'd add to it is.... I'll also wait for the bugs to be worked of of SH4 and mods done for it. And I'm leary of buying anything with Ubi on it.

Sockeye

03-03-07, 10:34 PM

I have no doubt that I'll still play SH3 again after numero quatro comes out, but with SH4 I'm hoping to recapture some of the moments I had back with the original Silent Hunter. The Pacific Theatre has always held more of my attention... probably because the sunny South Pacific has always sounded alot better than the dreary North Atlantic to me :D

But there is one thing I hope will draw me from the Atlantic first and foremost:

A feckin' PPI scope!
:ping:

mr chris

03-04-07, 06:17 AM

U-Boats forever!!!
Though i have pre ordered SH4 via subsim and will keep it on the shelve hoping that some one might beable to merge the SH3 theather of operations with the SH4 theather of operations. To have both games in one would be utopia.:yep:

Spray

03-04-07, 06:25 AM

U-Boats forever y'all have fun killing Japs.

leeclose

03-04-07, 09:11 AM

Corsair

03-04-07, 09:23 AM

leeclose

03-04-07, 09:25 AM

Same here mate spent a lot of time playing SS and Elite hehehe 8 bit gfx if memory serves me correctly:up:

Hakahura

03-04-07, 09:27 AM

I will play SH4 eventually but I'm in no rush, as it will be full of bugs for at least 6 months plus. SHIII will probably stay on my machine for a very long time to come yet. Can't say the Pacific submarine theatre holds as much interest for me as the Atlantic.

Why is there no box to tick for my level of ambivalence?

fredbass

03-04-07, 09:41 AM

I'm staying with both, thankyou. :yep: :)

leeclose

03-04-07, 09:46 AM

Murphys law and Ubis prior track record will suggest they will have it patched about 3 times maybe 4 before the end of the year....:damn:

joea

03-04-07, 09:48 AM

I'm staying with both, thankyou. :yep: :)

I agree. :yep: :up:

leeclose

03-04-07, 10:17 AM

I guess we will all find out in 2 and a half weeks wether 4 is going to step up to the plate or not:hmm:

Redbear

03-04-07, 10:19 AM

I'm sticking with SH3. My computer isn't up to the task for SH4, and besides, I'm partial to the war in the Atlantic anyway.

leeclose

03-04-07, 10:21 AM

I think a lotof people have invested a lot of time in 3 and 4 is probably going to be system heavy any one know what the preffered requirments are?:hmm:

CptGrayWolf

03-04-07, 01:32 PM

My SHIII is so heavily modded, that it's actualy a major turn off...Sort of feels like buying a car and adding so many different home made parts. Sometimes these 'new parts' don't match the original ( high res textures vs low res).
So If SHIV is a good sim, I'm outta the Atlantic and into the Pacific! :up:

leeclose

03-04-07, 02:21 PM

Nah i kep my moding fairly simple asked to see what was good what was crap and in all ive been fairly happy with what i got GWX all the way people.:up:

AVGWarhawk

03-04-07, 02:27 PM

It is going to be hard to turn in the old IXB but I will so to check out SH4. I just hope that SH4 is not at dark and colorless as the screenshots that have been offered. SH3 just has that spark after GWX polished it up. The mystic of the uboat in SH3 will always capture my imagination. More so than the PTO submarine warfare. But, with the right incentive(usually cash) I will play SH4.

leeclose

03-04-07, 02:32 PM

Ducimus

03-04-07, 02:47 PM

Personnally i think one thing were seeing here, is players preference for playing their sub game - closer to home.

For instance, i tend to hunt in the carribean and us east coast ALOT. Another example is some of the indian ocean areas around australia in gwx. Theres at least a couple aussies on the GWX team, and they were sure to populate areas closer to home. I'd wager they now hunt there ALOT.

Most of the outcry against SH4 being in the pacific, i think has come from the european players. Of course they dont have as much intrest in SH4. For one, its not closer to home, and for two, alot of people in the world hate americans, so why would they want to play as one? And for three, i think another factor is lack of knowledge of the pacific theater and/or the "underdog syndrome" as people tend to root for the underdog. And Later in the war, Germany was most certainly the underdog.

One sarchastic bet im almost willing to make though, is around here, ALOT of people are pretty much "graphic's whores'. - they love they're eyecandy, (the amount of graphical mods for SH3 is proof of this) and SH4 wins this one hands down. Im sure they'll see the movies and the screenshots after it goes live, and start drooling.

Especially when you also consider that SHIV isn't going to be linear in gameplay. Theres more to do then go to grid, sit for 24 hours, and look for ships to torpedo. And this, is one sad thing about SH3. There is absolutly NOTHING else to do. I realized this awhile ago, regardless of sub type, or theater, with the exception of how traffic is routed, the gameplay is the same - and im at the point now where im utterly and pathetically bored with SH3. Its the same old ****, no matter where you go, or what you use. If sh4 was the same thing, i woudlnt be so excited about it, but their are other options in it and to me, that makes it an instant winner.

robbo180265

03-04-07, 02:47 PM

As a bit of a lete comer into SHIII, I still have lots of mileage left with GWX. So if I go into the PTO, I'll be late there, too :88)

That's what I was thinking too.

U Boats are the way for me although I fully understand why anyone would want to go over to SHIV, I want to keep playing GWX until I'm totaly bored with it (and thats a LONG way off:up: ) Added to that I'm not really interested as much in the Pacific Theater, the only thing that will make me want to play SHIV will be the game itself

leeclose

03-04-07, 03:07 PM

Yup one of my big gripes about 3 is that unlike 2 you ever get detoured from your curresnt patrol grid to go photo recon hatbour ex or drop spy z of in the south of ireland etc thats one area that sh3 certainly does lack. I hope that 4 kinda blends 2 and 3 in with new stuff to make it more exciting and more modable.
Me i aint a gfx whore i go for game play and stay ability every time. Away from SH3 i play EvE online and have done so for 9 months now why you ask becouse you can do something diffrent every day so if we could mod 3 to get missions sent to us mid patrol it would be very intresting:up:

Eagle Eye

03-04-07, 03:08 PM

I wonder if they will ever give you the option to play the Japs or us british Sub boats during ww2 i mean i would lurv to have a play with one of those big I boat beasties.:up: Oh and how many old farts like me can remmber playinf silent service?:hmm:

I remember spending many foul weather days playins SS2 :D In 1990 I was 11 years old but I was still pretty good. When I built my new pc I decided to look for any new subsims and found SH3 :up:

I imagine I'll never give up on the U boats, I'm taken in by the both theaters of operation.

I've been aboard two Balao class Subs, One at Battleship Cove in Massachusetts and the Other docked in the Deleware river Philadelphia. In comparison to U boats they look like luxury ships.

Will the Balao be available in SH4?

Torplexed

03-04-07, 03:14 PM

Will the Balao be available in SH4?
Yes! :D

leeclose

03-04-07, 03:14 PM

In 1990 i was serving in the Royal navy as a Submariner(diesel) and playing Silent service and Silent service 2 in fact half the bubbleheads i knew back then played SS then SH what a bunch of mad people we must be now im retired(happily):up: and playing SH3 and soon 4 and if possible both at the same time great excuse to get another PC:rotfl:

Oooo Balo and the Gato rocked woohoo that made my night cheers Torp old bean.

Sailor Steve

03-04-07, 04:05 PM

Wait a minute, man. When you use the words "both at the same time" and "another PC" back-to-back, surely you don't mean you're going to try to...?

I wouldn't to do THAT, and people think I'M weird!

leeclose

03-04-07, 04:07 PM

No side by side and yeah i am that weird:up:

High Voltage

03-05-07, 01:26 AM

On the one hand, it's gonna be hard to turn away new toys, missions and hunting grounds...
On the other, don't want to start playing the game right away only to get turned off by all the bugs/freezes/wonky AI...

So,

will wait for some intrepid modder to figure out how to port SH3 GWX onto the SH4 engine!!!!:rock::rock::rock::rock:

RawRecruit

03-05-07, 04:56 AM

There's still plenty for me to achieve in SHIII, especially with GWX now that I think it'll be a good while before I am sailing the Pacific.

A couple of things about SHIV, though. First, how will these extra mission be implemented? I mean, how hard will it be to photo a port? If it's a case of 'receive message, alter course, click button on arrival' then I'm not sure it would add too much content. If the place is crawling with DD, then that's different! Also, one of the attractions of the Atlantic is just how damned hard it is to survive. You feel after a while that simple survival is an achievement. How hard did the US subs in the PTO get it? Did the Japanese use convoy methods and such like?

Marko_Ramius

03-05-07, 06:05 AM

Hi,

I'm glad to see another step in the subsim games, so i will play SH4. I'm a sim lover, and there is not a lot, so when there is one, i get it.

Me too have played SS2 on Atari ST, and i enjoyed it a lot !! Glad to see PTO again.

But : SH3 with GWX will stay on my HDD for a long long time !! GWX team have made a tremendous work on it. A good game became a so great Subsim. So, i hope this team or another will make SH4 a great sim too ..

HunterICX

03-05-07, 06:37 AM

I have no interest in the Pacific theater,

Just give me the brits above my head to keep me company :rock:

leeclose

03-05-07, 06:59 AM

Well voltage we can only wait and see mate would be good to see the gwx team working on it but for now im happy there still focusing on 3:up:

Foghladh_mhara

03-05-07, 08:32 AM

I basically bought my computer to play SH3! Played SH2 for a year and a half and loved it. When 3 was released I held off until I had a pc worth playing it on. Then I had kids. Now I have the new pc, the kids are sleeping through the night and I eventually have the chance to play it. I think i've got a lot of patrols to do in this game before i join the USN. And from reading some of the posts here I think I share a disinterest in the Pacific Theatre. Dont know what it is about WW2 in Europe that grips me so much.

leeclose

03-05-07, 08:35 AM

Subnuts

03-05-07, 09:17 AM

I wonder how many people who think the Pacific was boring, or holds no interest to them, have ever bothered to research it at all? :hmm:

leeclose

03-05-07, 09:19 AM

I never said it was boring it's just as intresting as the U boat war ive read many very intresying stories about the War in the pacific some real heroes out there one that springs to mind is Mush Morton skipper of the Wahoo which is a fantastuc read man had a real set of balls:up:

Foghladh_mhara

03-05-07, 09:33 AM

I wonder how many people who think the Pacific was boring, or holds no interest to them, have ever bothered to research it at all? :hmm:
Dont get me wrong. I dont think its boring. Got a library at home with hundreds of books from nearly every theatre and read most of them. One of the first military history books i ever read was an autobiography of a japanese fighter pilot (cant remember the title. It disintegrated a long time ago!), got books on the fall of singapore, the burma campaign, battle of the java sea, leyte gulf etc. What i'm saying is they dont hold my interest like the european campaign. Like Ducimus pointed out earlier I'm sure the underdog status counts for a lot. As a kid i was all RAF and battle of Britain. In my more mature years i was more interested in the allied bombing campaigns and U-boats. I always back the loser. Thats why i dont gamble:D

Jimbuna

03-05-07, 09:34 AM

But : SH3 with GWX will stay on my HDD for a long long time !! GWX team have made a tremendous work on it. A good game became a so great Subsim. So, i hope this team or another will make SH4 a great sim too ..

You never know matey....you just never know ;) :arrgh!:

leeclose

03-05-07, 09:43 AM

Me i'm just a WW2 nut the Submarine side of it apeals to me from all fronts wether it was the Kriegsmarine or the IJN or RN or the USN they all had there own high and lwo points and some very intresting stories.:up:

Corsair

03-05-07, 04:26 PM

I wonder how many people who think the Pacific was boring, or holds no interest to them, have ever bothered to research it at all? :hmm:

I will second post from Foghladh_mhara...
I have read tons of books on the Pacific, I know which important role the US subs played in cripping Japanese merchant fleet. Somehow the games I played most in the PTO have been either flight sims (1942 Microprose, Pacific Fighters) or strategic games based on carrier ops (Carriers at War, Uncommon Valour) I even remember before computer gaming having spent lot of time on board games like the excellent Flattop from Avalon Hill or solo Tokyo Express from Victory Games.
But for some reason there is something special about the Atlantic U-boat war, trying to survive as long as possible against increasingly powerful foes I suppose.

leeclose

03-05-07, 04:27 PM

Every one loves the underdog even if he is the bad guy depending on whos view point you look at it from confusing or what.:hmm:

dean_acheson

03-05-07, 04:52 PM

\In all seriousness..
That and well, for me, The Gato is what got me into sub sims to begin with. Reading about it and such. ( Hmm, come to think of it, this is probably why ive sat my ass in type9 uboats and rarely type7. ) Honestly I only played Atlantic Uboats because there was simply no other sim available for the longest time (SH1 to me was a letdown after AOD). It took it awhile for atlantic german uboats to grow on me, and now i probably know more about uboats then i do gato's. Kinda wierd how that works out.

Same exact story on this end. Cut my teeth on Silent Service on Nintendo, and my first book was the lovely book on the Batfish that I picked up at the local library as really a little kid, 8 or 9.

Over the last few months, all I have been doing is reading about the Pacific War, and the fleet boats, it's like meeting an old friend. I like SH3, but SH4 will be a sim that I will be playing for years and years, I hope.

dean_acheson

03-05-07, 05:00 PM

Like a few peeps have said and i think i agree if your from europe the european war is more intresting to us something that we all have a close relationship with.
The Guys and gals from the States the pacific war with the japs was, what does it for them me im like both areas of conflict many varied and intresting sub stories from both theatres of conflict.:up:

To a point, this is true. However, my first real interest in WWII was air combat in the ETO. Having said that, I am really ready to play a subsim and not be a Nazi..... sometimes in SH3 I find myself sinking Allied tonnage and calling them 'the bad guys,' before I catch myself, and realize that, I am the bad guys.

You see a guy like Erich Topp, and think, what a naval hero! Certainly, he was; and it seems likely from my reading, that the Kriegsmarine was the least political of the German armed forces, but still, in the back of my head, playing a German submariner always leaves me with a bit of a funky taste. Much of this is dissapated by not playing in German, but still, there it is.

I don't mean any of this harshly, but it will be nice fighting for a country that has a republican form of government, against one that ain't.....

Just my personal feelings....

leeclose

03-05-07, 05:04 PM

Yup Dean i can uderstand how you feel but for me i'm an ex submariner and not all of em were rampant nazi's to me they were brothers of the sea as many ex and serving submariners will feel every Boat crew either allied or axis lost was a sad day even 60 plus years later i'm sure they are missed by there familes.:hmm:

Ducimus

03-05-07, 05:06 PM

I hereby change my vote - im too burnt out for another SH3 career game of any shape or form. Think its time i stripped it off my HD, put the disks away, and let it collect dust on a shelf for a little while. Conversly i htink im gonna dust off that ES4: Oblivion DVD :D

leeclose

03-05-07, 05:26 PM

U will be back and u know it one dark friday night it will jump of the shelf at ya.....:arrgh!:

Ducimus

03-05-07, 06:45 PM

U will be back and u know it one dark friday night it will jump of the shelf at ya.....:arrgh!:

With another sub sim on the horizon? I doubt it :smug:

Corsair

03-06-07, 06:48 AM

I think I would also become burned out if I played SH3 non stop for a long time.
But as I play other things (mainly flight sims) and leave my sub being refitted in port between patrols (usually 1 or 2 weeks) I am always happy to jump back on board. I have been playing this game since it came out with successive mods which constantly improved it. Good games are hard to kill specially when there is a modding community. I still have Falcon 4.0 and Operation Flashpoint running - both heavily modded...