What warship do you fear the most?

[banshee555]

Having come up against most hunter class destroyers and frigates i have to say i fear the black swans the most.these guys never give up and they carry the most DCs,any more than 2 black swans then you can kiss your ass good bye.

Reguards

karl

[Morts]

i fear all of them:huh:

[baggygreen]

i would answer but im too afraid if i give away his identity he'll come and haunt me with those bloody awful pings!:o

[Eagle Eye]

I'm not affraid of the escorts. It's being suprised by an aircraft that scares me.

[Venatore]

Having come up against most hunter class destroyers and frigates i have to say i fear the black swans the most.these guys never give up and they carry the most DCs,any more than 2 black swans then you can kiss your ass good bye.

Reguards

karl

Karl,

The worst is the one your lookouts don't see :eek:

[Torplexed]

Those Tribal Class DDs have a nasty disposition. :eek: But then look at their names...HMS Cossack, HMS Gurkha, HMS Maori, HMS Zulu, HMS Sikh, etc.

If there was an HMS Oompa-Loompa I might have a better chance. :yep:

[Kpt. Kozloff]

Having come up against most hunter class destroyers and frigates i have to say i fear the black swans the most.these guys never give up and they carry the most DCs,any more than 2 black swans then you can kiss your ass good bye.

Reguards

karl

Those black swans are truly a pest of the high seas. Agreed on that one.
:arrgh!:

[HunterICX]

I dont fear the bigger size Destroyers,

but I crap in my pants when I see/hear a Flower Corvette,
most of my Uboats losses is because of those darn Corvettes!

[Mush Martin]

as a sub driver normally (River Class Frigate Type2)

as an Uberboot driver
tribals.

[Tiny]

Black swans, had 3 DD's over me some time ago, one was a black swan and he never gave up verdammt doch mal ... but I survived :stare:

[Linavitch]

The one that is above me!

[STEED]

Black Swans, more like the grim-reaper's. They carry on pounding you long after your average destroyer has given up. :arrgh!:

[Jimbuna]

Not so much the ship...but the weapon it carries...the hedgehog :arrgh!:

[Kpt. Kozloff]

Black Swans, more like the grim-reaper's. They carry on pounding you long after your average destroyer has given up. :arrgh!:

The Black Swans literally very appropriate name for them, they just stick their heads underwater to see you, that's why they never give up or lose you!
;)

[leeclose]

For me has to be those damm Black swans followed by Hunt then Tribals and aircraft.:up:

[Brag]

Black Swans from hell. I've run into one twice that is on fire, with its crew roasting at action stations and still hounding me. Eerie. :roll:

[leeclose]

Crewed by crazy people more as like:down:

[STEED]

A black swan can sniff you coming out of port and from there your fate is sealed. :dead:

[robbo180265]

The one that is above me!

That's the one that scares me the most:o

[leeclose]

A black swan can sniff you coming out of port and from there your fate is sealed. :dead:
That is very very very true mate:up:

[NealT]

I fear NOTHING!

I respect them ALL!
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[peterloo]

Having come up against most hunter class destroyers and frigates i have to say i fear the black swans the most.these guys never give up and they carry the most DCs,any more than 2 black swans then you can kiss your ass good bye.

Reguards

karl

Let me tell u, Hunter Class is nothing more than a piece of crap. Owing little amount of K-gun and DC rack, it can NEVER pose a threat.

I fear River & Black Swan DE most. Although they are slow, their armarment, and techology coperated proves a tough opponent

[XXi]

I won`t be original here. Black swan frigates are scarying me. Same with flower corvettes, too. Many DDs give up or run out of DCs and these nasty pests are still there, still pinging, still throwing DCS...

[Keelbuster]

Black Swan class are the worst. They can carry 10 DC launchers and a hedgehog plate. When they do a DC run it's like being in the center of a pre-registered 105 barrage. I fear the Black Swan.

:o

[leeclose]

Yup i ran up against a swan last night took me over an hour real time to get away from the bugger and it managed to nearly depth charge me to death was down to 36% hull:down:

[High Voltage]

As long as I can keep heading down, i don't worry about what's up there...;);)

[leeclose]

Yup mate run silent run deep and leave the skimmers guessing:up:

[azn_132]

Black Swans and Rivers are my worst enemy at 1943 below that tribals.

[leeclose]

I bet back in the day real Skippers must have thought they had the hounds of hell after them kinda scary just thinking about it......:yep:

[Mush Martin]

Not so much the ship...but the weapon it carries...the hedgehog :arrgh!:
Thats why I chose River FF over Black Swans

The rivers have less surface armament than the Swans

but they carry the same # of D/C's but with fewer launchers
so they can stay on top of you even longer with more slightly
smaller patterns plus they have the HH and their brains came
from the Black Swans.

Definately the Number one ASW Frigate in my book

they are astoundingly tough and tenacious opponents and
Occasionally seem to have Clairvoyance 2.0 installed.

I cant thank BBW enough for making them.

also the final of River with the corrected visual model will
be ready very soon. But I still play regularily against the
Beta version, as it is one of the great challenges in sh3
to survive four of them on top of you.

(Beta RiverFF type 2 available on my File Front.)
Take the Challenge Kaluens there are worse monsters
in the deeps than the swans.

MM

[romelus]

J class.

not in the traditional DC sense. twice now i've tried to dodge it coming down on my scope, twice i've been too late. i died both times. the second time its bow took my watch tower straight off and death was immediate (destroyed by collision). i was probably decapitated :oops:

i've played too much fps, and i sometimes enjoy strafing around ships just for a cheap thrill. i also forget that subs don't go from reverse to flank forward very quickly :88)

[leeclose]

J i've played too much fps, and i sometimes enjoy strafing around ships just for a cheap thrill. i also forget that subs don't go from reverse to flank forward very quickly :88)
Hehe srry that made me laugh a lot yup this is true and think all Kaleuns at some point or another forget this to the point they go damm no instance dive bugger there goes another boat.... All good fun and stop playing FPS u will go blind or is that something else....:hmm:

[TriskettheKid]

HMS Hood and Iowa-class BBs.

Those are the only two ships that I have yet to one-shot. I fear them because I value every one of my torpedoes, and both eat them up.

[leeclose]

yup and with good reason there scary ship i came across a convoy in one of the AM's today and slap dab in the middle was a revenge class. I literally kacked me pants there was deffinatly the smell of fear in the air after that.:up:

[XXi]

Just an hour ago I escaped two Black Swans & some DE. Had to go below 290m to be safe, they kept losing contact and picking it up very quickly. I didn`t count the amount of DCS thrown, but there were dozens of them.
Still, it seemed that they`ve made too much mess in the water so I could get away after 2hrs battle... not that bad I dare say.

[AVGWarhawk]

The warship I fear the most hmmmmmmmmmmm..............

The one over me dropping crap on my ride man!!!:o

[leeclose]

Any battle that you surviv and take home at least half your boat and some of your crew albeit in the boats freezer is a good:up:

[Crazy Ian]

*Looks worriedly to the skies*

I'm sure I just saw a Sunderland in the twilight....

[stabiz]

I always go "damn" inside when my scope passes over a Black Swan. They have a cool name and eat uboats.

I actually suspect they huddle together in Scapa and feast on old uboat-remains when we are not looking.


Black Swan for me, followed by everything that carries tins on the back, and planes way down the list. They DO get me sometimes, but you are safe when you dive, not so with the chaps in the machinegun-strapped Formula 1 death machines.

[leeclose]

Ive been cought unwares once with Elcos i was at the head to coem back and find they had turned my boat into a sponge wasnt to happy about that bloody thing came outa no where so dont under estimate the elco's:ping:

[GT182]

:hmm: Anything that can shoot back with guns, carries DCs and Hedgehogs. As said before, I respect them. But up close and personal, I get worried not scared. If your'e scared, you don't always use your head and think smart. ;) You have to try and out think them to survive. And these AI escorst have a mind of their own.

Enemy aircraft are another story. You have to be ready for them at all times, night and day with good lookouts. Once you see them they're pretty predictable and can be dealt with quickly if you have good guns crews. Be asleep at the wheel and you're toast.

[Wave Skipper]

MOst of the times when I have lost a prized crew (one I had built up and nursed) was when I was in thick rain and storm late at night. So many times in fact - I generally stay under in storms late at night. As I recall Donitz lost his three top aces all with in a short time of one another during the same storm.

[OuNiS]

I respect Every ASW vessel, but Black Swan Frigate or River make me mad.

[Biggles]

The sloop. Gastly thing, never underestimate small wooden ships.....:|\\

[Hakahura]

The one I have'nt seen :o

[leeclose]

As I recall Donitz lost his three top aces all with in a short time of one another during the same storm. He did apparently he cried wether its true or not ,but Donitz had a close relationship with all his skippers espesh his top ones must have been like loosing sons poor bugger.:down:

[Mush Martin]

As I recall Donitz lost his three top aces all with in a short time of one another during the same storm. He did apparently he cried wether its true or not ,but Donitz had a close relationship with all his skippers espesh his top ones must have been like loosing sons poor bugger.:down:

He did lose his son the very same way.

MM

[IRONxMortlock]

Black Swans :yep:
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[Spray]

Town class, thats right Town class. Why? Cause they always seem to ram me at 36 knots.

[Tobus]

Not the type, but the instances.

- the one I didn't see coming because I was calculating my next shot on a merchant

- the ones that gang up on me, with one keeping asdic contact and others taking their turns in pounding the sh*t out of me.

[Alyebard]

those dammed corvettes!:down:

[leeclose]

own class are buggers for ramming one gave me the ole ramming speed last night took both my scopes of the bugger:down:

[Rykaird]

As I recall Donitz lost his three top aces all with in a short time of one another during the same storm. He did apparently he cried wether its true or not ,but Donitz had a close relationship with all his skippers espesh his top ones must have been like loosing sons poor bugger.:down:

He did lose his son the very same way.

MM

You're right, he lost his youngest son in a U-Boat, and ultimately lost both of his children. From the excellent and concise article on Wikipedia:

"Both of Dönitz's sons died during World War II. His younger son, Peter, was a watch officer on U-954 and was killed on 19 May (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_19) 1943, when his boat was sunk in the North Atlantic with the loss of its entire crew. After this loss, the older brother, Klaus, was allowed to leave combat duty and began studying to be a naval doctor. Dönitz lost Klaus almost a year after Peter died, on 13 May (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_13) 1944 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1944). Klaus convinced his friends to let him go on the fast torpedo attack boat S-141 for a raid on HMS Selsey off the coast of England on his twenty-fourth birthday. The boat was destroyed and Klaus died, even though six others were rescued."

[IceGrog]

With any of them, if they are coming straight at me on their first pass, I fear none, BUT if I miss then I fear all of them

[Mush Martin]

With any of them, if they are coming straight at me on their first pass, I fear none, BUT if I miss then I fear all of them

Nice avatar rough night was it.:o

[leeclose]

I got to admit i hate spitfire they pilots are nutters:up:

[Corsair]

Definitely the one that's circling over my head at the moment since quite some time, can't shake him off (was assigned an AN 18 patrol and this is shallow water - can't dive deeper than 70m). As I play without external cam, I didn't have the time to identify her clearly when I started my crash dive... And the bad news is that my hydrophone operator just gave the info another one was coming our way, probably called by his buddy...:cry:
And it's a story from greed again... spotted a nice freighter but could not catch up submerged. Although it was a bright day I thought I could get away with a fast surface attack and slip away... no no !! As soon they saw me, they called the RAF and the Navy right away, planes were there in a minute or two and now the DDs that were probably on patrol not far away...

[leeclose]

A bad attack of murphys law also known as sods law:up:

[IceGrog]

With any of them, if they are coming straight at me on their first pass, I fear none, BUT if I miss then I fear all of them

Nice avatar rough night was it.:o

OH MY GOSH.................just like being blindsided by a destoyer
wam bam thank you mam:o

HUHHHHH.......one post and it's gone???????????????

[GT182]

those dammed corvettes!:down:

Ahhh, but you can out run them "if" you see them quick enough and on the surface. And you can sink them with your deckgun, "if" you're quick enough and have a good gun crew. Don't try it up close tho. Stay just outside their range.

check here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=105690

[leeclose]

Certainly an intresting point i may have to try that one:up:

[Dimitrius07]

Lets say that for me one destroyer is a problem, how big depends on the situation and weather - but when 2 or 3 destroyers on my a@s i am very very scary :ping: :ping: :dead:

[leeclose]

Yup 2 i can handle when theres 3 plus then i start wishing i had a nox engine and soem jet skis:yep:

[Penelope_Grey]

The warship I fear the most is the one that finds me! Period.

I also fear a warship that is capable of detecting me even though I have forced my boat down as deep as I dare.

[TriskettheKid]

I guess since my play style is to constantly raid harbors, my fear of DDs and the like has been considerably subdued. I ALWAYS preset my torps to fire in order to keep me ready as I enter the harbor. That preset is to have them run at the shallowest setting, impact pistons, and whatever their fastest speed is.

To be honest, the only time I've had a problem is when I DON'T preset my torps.

The trick I've found, and it works in GWX or vanilla, is to actually give myself away to the enemy. That way, if the seas are calm enough, and they are within a 270 degree arc of bow, I can nail them with impunity. That is because, for whatever reason, any vessel with ASW will charge towards my position, and ALWAYS in a straight line.
Then I just adjust depth, switch to magnetic piston, and fire.

It's shocking how simple it can be at times.

[Corsair]

I guess since my play style is to constantly raid harbors, my fear of DDs and the like has been considerably subdued. I ALWAYS preset my torps to fire in order to keep me ready as I enter the harbor. That preset is to have them run at the shallowest setting, impact pistons, and whatever their fastest speed is.

To be honest, the only time I've had a problem is when I DON'T preset my torps.

The trick I've found, and it works in GWX or vanilla, is to actually give myself away to the enemy. That way, if the seas are calm enough, and they are within a 270 degree arc of bow, I can nail them with impunity. That is because, for whatever reason, any vessel with ASW will charge towards my position, and ALWAYS in a straight line.
Then I just adjust depth, switch to magnetic piston, and fire.

It's shocking how simple it can be at times.

This is exactly why I don't raid harbours...:D

[Mush Martin]

With any of them, if they are coming straight at me on their first pass, I fear none, BUT if I miss then I fear all of them
Nice avatar rough night was it.:o
OH MY GOSH.................just like being blindsided by a destoyer
wam bam thank you mam:o

HUHHHHH.......one post and it's gone???????????????
It happens to us all:arrgh!:

[leeclose]

Harbour rading rocks and its true you need your eels pre set our your buggered mind you i never intentionally give myself away might try that one cheers for that piece of info.:hmm:

[Mooncatt]

well the Hunt class can be a right pain as well only a small DD but they seem to have some uber equipment/crew. i have encountered a few of em in the past even submerged, silent running and 2knts 1941ish and they still pick me up from a fair distance and they dont give up at all. i personally havent had any bother from flower class or black swans either, i have had 3 of em on me before and had no bother evading them. get down to at least 160m and the DC dont seem to ever reach me after that i just sneak away changing course slightly every 5mins or so.

[leeclose]

You must be the only person who dont fear the swans you got anti swan paint on or summit:hmm:

[Mooncatt]

hehehe no honestly never had a problem with em

[leeclose]

You lucky sod i must have a giant magnet or summit then:down:

[Mooncatt]

you having trouble with em when attacking convoys???

[leeclose]

Yup there a dang pain in the rear end:yep:

[Mooncatt]

ill pm ya with how i deal with em or i might get in bother for hijacking the thread hehehe

[leeclose]

No worrys mate ty for that:up:

[Spray]

The only thing you should fear is fear itself. Take the battle to them kaleun and don't let those deckswabbers pester you. They seem to always forget the reason why submarines were made was to detroy pests like thos ships. After you take out 5 or more of them in shallow water in a very small timespan you will find out. I dont know why the heck I was ever scared of these guys. Go Gunther Prien on them, just without the deckguns against DD's cause thats near certain death with big groups. IF you want to go surfaced gunther prien aim for their cannons they set off a nice little explosion and pretty much leave the small arms fired as its only mean of defence. I find this good for armed trawlers if I can get behind them I quickly surface fire 1-2 shells into the DC racks 1-2 in the control center then submerge again.

[Corsair]

They seem to always forget the reason why submarines were made was to detroy pests like thos ships.

Sorry to disagree, but the purpose of U boats was to sink merchant shipping to isolate UK from supplies. Sinking DDs wouldn't have changed anything to the course of the war.;)

"just without the deckguns against DD's cause thats near certain death with big groups."

Thats certain death even against one of them...:D

[leeclose]

I would agree with Corsair U boats in WW1 and 2 were created to sink merchants and try not to engage Combatants. Mind you there were a few brave kaleun's who took the war to the DD's and bigger but me i would rather sink a nice big fat juicy merchant:up:

[robbo180265]

I would agree with Corsair U boats in WW1 and 2 were created to sink merchants and try not to engage Combatants. Mind you there were a few brave kaleun's who took the war to the DD's and bigger but me i would rather sink a nice big fat juicy merchant:up:

Me too:up:

One question Spray, are you playing GWX? because if you are I'm impressed. Don't think I'd want to mess with those nasties at all:o

[Pevs86]

V&W Class :oops:

Never had any real problems with escorts, not yet (Aug, 1940 only)

I think it comes from Pre-GWX where the only numberous DD was the V&W.

Must keep an eye out for these swans of black... maybe carry a 12guage incase one flies over ;)

[Mooncatt]

ahhh now there is a DD i didnt think of metioning....yeah they can be a pain in the butt another worth mentioning is the C an D class.
mmmmmm i know why cant we just say the whole damn lot are a pain in the butt :lol:

[Iron Budokan]

I hate the Black Swans, too.

[Rykaird]

Hee hee - I've been shot up on the surface by torpedo boats of all things. Little buggers are everywhere in the Straits of Gibraltar. Was running out of air, and out of concern for the crew's nostrils (Bernard's socks get a bit funky after a while) I surfaced in absolutely miserable weather - zero visibility. Thought I would be safe, pop up just to get some air and back down again.

Torpedo boats can apparently see right through that stuff, though, and shot me up pretty good. They're like mosquitos - mostly pesky, but some have malaria.

Otherwise, for me, it isn't the type but the quantity. Four or more of any enemy warship packing depth charges and things get ugly in a hurry. One pings, but the rest listen - so no more gunning it on ping. Makes it hard to get away.

[leeclose]

Hah Elcos are litle buggers i got jumped by 3 today christ they made a mess of my boat crash dive dont crash quick enough:up:

[andy_311]

The six Black Swan's that I trying hunt me down for shooting up Lorient (Sept 44)

[leeclose]

The six Black Swan's that I trying hunt me down for shooting up Lorient (Sept 44)Well at least ur popular mate:rotfl:

[Jimbuna]

Come 44 you shoulda had enough of Lorient :hmm: :arrgh!:

[Crazy Ian]

I miss the days of Silent Hunter I where you could take on 2 destroyers at least with a deck gun and come out on top.. Bloody realism *shakes fist* :D

[leeclose]

I miss the days of Silent Hunter I where you could take on 2 destroyers at least with a deck gun and come out on top.. Bloody realism *shakes fist* :D LMAO good one mate:rotfl:

[pythos]

River class. I seem to lose most boats to those killers.

I don't have so much issues with the Black swan. But the River class seems to have a huge asdic arc, that is instantaneously on your boat almost imeadiately after dropping charges.

Was this boat designed by a time traveler who learned of River Tam, (if any here are browncoats you will imediatly know of whom I refer.) Because it definitely has her characteristics.

[jth]

The River class is the ship that probably sunk me most often. But overall, I hate planes, they killed me countless times and way more often than any ship :mad:

[Madox58]

Wait till you all see Mush's remodeled Riverclass!!
It sends shivers down my spine and I can spot it from
from miles away now!! :o

[Hylander_1314]

The one that's the closest. But once we're under, I wait for my chance to strike, after shaking them. One good hit and they will stay busy for hours while I leave the area in the direction of the convoy.

[Spray]

I would agree with Corsair U boats in WW1 and 2 were created to sink merchants and try not to engage Combatants. Mind you there were a few brave kaleun's who took the war to the DD's and bigger but me i would rather sink a nice big fat juicy merchant:up:
Me too:up:

One question Spray, are you playing GWX? because if you are I'm impressed. Don't think I'd want to mess with those nasties at all:o

Yeah im playing with GWX made it to 1943 in a IXB so far without dying :o at one point I had 2% hull intergrety left though... Anyway Ive sunk about 50 warships in 23 patrols and about 100 merchants.

What I meant was the submarine was made to take out the surface dwelling ships I didn't say it was made to take out DD's alone but I did say you should not fear them. Gee I think sometimes people intentionally misinterperet my posts at an attempt to make me look stupid or I just don't come across clearly.

[robbo180265]

Yeah im playing with GWX made it to 1943 in a IXB so far without dying :o at one point I had 2% hull intergrety left though... Anyway Ive sunk about 50 warships in 23 patrols and about 100 merchants.

What I meant was the submarine was made to take out the surface dwelling ships I didn't say it was made to take out DD's alone but I did say you should not fear them. Gee I think sometimes people intentionally misinterperet my posts at an attempt to make me look stupid or I just don't come across clearly.

No don't worry, I just wondered that's all. I just run for cover when I see GWX DD's they tend to be like dogs with a bone. I'm mighty impressed matey well done:up:

[Spray]

Yeah im playing with GWX made it to 1943 in a IXB so far without dying :o at one point I had 2% hull intergrety left though... Anyway Ive sunk about 50 warships in 23 patrols and about 100 merchants.

What I meant was the submarine was made to take out the surface dwelling ships I didn't say it was made to take out DD's alone but I did say you should not fear them. Gee I think sometimes people intentionally misinterperet my posts at an attempt to make me look stupid or I just don't come across clearly.
No don't worry, I just wondered that's all. I just run for cover when I see GWX DD's they tend to be like dogs with a bone. I'm mighty impressed matey well done:up:

Seriously its nothing I just take it to mental representations, never underestimate a DD true it is a dangerous enemy but you can easily destroy them all it takes is one torp and they're gone. Playing FPS normally has negative impacts for sub games and other games requiring patience but the way I view it. This is just a game when and if I die I would have lost nothing and gained lots of enjoyment from it. Its an all in attempt or nothing I will sink any ship that will benefeit the fatherland.

Normally I skip on small merchants etc but attack the escorts just for the sake of it. THen if its calm seas ill go Gunther Prien on their ass.

[hornetsting]

I don`t fear the destroyers but the hedgehogs.

[leeclose]

Depth charges scare the bejesus outa me and my crew and the cat:up:

[Jimbuna]

I don`t fear the destroyers but the hedgehogs.

:roll: :yep: