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romelus
02-28-07, 03:57 PM
first, overview. i'm a noob playing my first sh3 game. after cursing my IIA for not having a deck gun and only 3 tubes for months, i finally saved enough to buy a VIIB

gleeful about my new ride and intent on finding some juicy targets, i headed toward an english port again (the one below scapa, can't remember name right now)

just before i entered the narrow channel leading to port, i ran into multiple merchant and military ships. i submerged to periscope depth, and started attacking a C3 cargo. maybe it's got titanium coating, but it took 3-4 hits to finally sink it. i also spent a long time submerged as there were always DDs circling about.

long story short, i now have 3 bow torps left, and 1 aft torp that i cannot reload because it's external. my battery is less than 20%, so i decide to sneak away so i can surface.

i move away from the c3 wreck, suddenly i see a sight that will scare any noob
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/romelus/sh3-bb1.jpg

oh crap, maybe that c3 contained churchill or something, but it looks like the entire royal navy is after me! i have low battery and they are moving FAST! i decide to take a peek to see what's coming, then dive
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/romelus/sh3-bb2.jpg

OMG! it's a battleship! i've never even seen a convoy or even a light cruiser before! it's a damn battle group heading out to sea! (btw the first ship is a c class DD)

panicking, i dive to 20 meters first. when the BB is near a good angle, i decide to go up to periscope depth and let loose my 3 torps, my low battery be damned. For the fatherland!

being the inexperienced punk captain i am, it takes much longer to ascend than i thought. by the time i could look through my periscope, i couldn't believe my eyes!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/romelus/sh3-bb3.jpg

my GAWD! 2 battleships! and the second one is right in front of me! :o the BB is moving fast at 21 knots, and i only have seconds to react :huh:

i save my game :|\\

time to get some help (trust me i tried before i came here, before i could finish checking the magnetic depth setting on my lagg ridden screen the BBs slipped away :88) )

what's the best option given the very limited time i have? i have 3 torps loaded, the angle is not ideal but not the worst either. there's no way i can chase them. i'm chugging along in silent mode and the battle group is moving at 21 knots

also, am i going to live after i attack? my battery is very low... what should i do? :hmm:

romelus
02-28-07, 04:06 PM
oh btw, it's dark and visual is bad. i know aiming at the turrents are good if i want to cause a magazine explosion but i can't see the turrents in darkness. i probably have to fire at the midsection. should i use magnetic fuse (takes time to set) or just use impact? the wind is 7 knots. are 3 torps enough to sink a BB?

digitizedsoul
02-28-07, 04:15 PM
You need to do a rapid snapshot.... start with your fastest torp's, make SURE they are set to fast speed to reduce the chance of that 21knot target maneuvering around them, and fire.

Spread all three along the length of the ship if you can, try using the arrow as a centerline indicator. You don't know if he will zig, zag, or just stay straight so account for all three.

danurve
02-28-07, 04:17 PM
Well, if your over 21 I suggest to start drinking heavily.

Ok, ok, you say you have at least 1 external, maybe two left over?
Try a triple .5 spread shot aim forward of her bow as you might shooting at a fast DD. Mark her position on the map. If you hit luckily you can disable her while you sneek away. Your battery is less then 20% .. arrrrrr no cake for you. match her course from your position, go to MAX depth 2 knots. Stay there untill you have no choice but to surface. When you do try to be out of her ranges, while you recharde a tad reload your externals, track her down and finish her off with a better aob.

Gildor
02-28-07, 04:33 PM
If you fire at the battleship at that angle, make sure you do a magnetic shot. The travel of the torp under the hull will give a better chance of detonation.

A impact shot would prob just bounce off at that angle.

Der Schatten
02-28-07, 04:48 PM
"Be more agressive!":)
(Bad things always happen to me when I let my batteries get below 50%....but for a shot at that......I'd take it like the others stated, go deep and get out of the neighbor hood quietly,,,,,,comeback later with a reload and some battery juice.....20% will last longer than you think, but not much room for error.....ahhhhh, I'd love to have this problem! I'm in the middle of weeks of 15 metter wind, rain and no visibility.....sitting next to a wounded merchant who just will not sink, I have no torpedos left and only a few deck gun shells......sooner or later the wind will slow down and I can sink this bugger and go home!)

Geeze...............I love this game!

romelus
02-28-07, 04:55 PM
i'll try the salvo shot with all 3 bow fishes. i have only 1 aft external fish. i take it that once a ship is disabled but not sunk, it will stay there? i don't want to go away and come back to find that the BB has disappeared.

as for evading after the attack, i have less than 29 meters to dive as this is near a port. oh man i hope i can get away to recharge...

i have the save game if someone else wants to play with this scenario. vanilla 1.4

Pevs86
02-28-07, 05:17 PM
I say surface and shoot it out with them, it's the only chance you have :P

Failing suicide, I had a similar situation in the Med. and managed to hit one of the BBs prop shaft, fortunatly the escorts left it alone and I was able to sink it from a safe distance come nightfall.

Either way, best of luck and post results :)

romelus
02-28-07, 05:24 PM
1st try:

fired the full salvo at midsection of BB. all three hit. ship not immediately sunk. stupidly i watched the torpedo impact before diving. DDs pinged me (first time i heard these awful pinging sounds...). depth charge, i was hit. heavy flooding, critical flooding. then :dead:

2nd try:

fired the full salvo at estimated forward gun turrent. all torps passed underneath the BB! might be a freak wave but what the hell. quit game to write this

now going back for 3rd try

romelus
02-28-07, 07:15 PM
:-j i did it!!! :ping:

i take the salvo shot at the estimated forward turrent position

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/romelus/sh3-bb4.jpg

i dive immediately. first torp passes under the BB again :damn: but 2nd and 3rd torps hit, and the BB is destroyed right away :rock: :rock: :rock: must be a magazine explosion

now the hard part, getting away

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/romelus/sh3-bb5.jpg

instead of trying to turn like i did the first time. i go straight ahead at 31 meters. only 2 meters under the keel. lots of pinging attempts and my stealth meter flashed red several times, but the depth charge never came :up: i slither away at 3 knots

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/romelus/sh3-bb6.jpg

finally i surface and high tail it out of there. sank a merchant with my leftover aft torp before returning to base

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/romelus/sh3-bb7.jpg

woohooo! my best haul so far! thanks for the help matey:arrgh!:

robbo180265
02-28-07, 07:30 PM
Brilliant read and well done matey, the drinks are on you:up:

GT182
02-28-07, 07:30 PM
Romelus, congrats on sinking a battleship. They are scarce to see, but seeing 2 at once and nailing one is great. You did good and to make it home too. :up:

IRONxMortlock
02-28-07, 08:28 PM
Nice work! :up:

Pretty balsy attack though. I didn't realise you were in such shallow water.:o With only 20% battery remaining I probably would have cursed my luck and let that one go.

Once you get the hang of the game I recommend you install GWX. It really does turn a good game into a great game. I also found that when I switched to playing DiD (dead is dead) I got a lot more out of the game. This means no reloading a saved game when something doesn't work out or you die. This helps no end in immersing you in the game world.

Have fun!
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Brag
02-28-07, 09:27 PM
Good shooting --you buy the drinks :D

ReallyDedPoet
02-28-07, 09:49 PM
Nice read there Romelus:up::up: Pics to.

nikbear
03-01-07, 02:28 AM
What a result,you jammy bugger:up:

Crosseye76
03-01-07, 03:24 AM
Very well done ! Congrats !! :up:

CptGrayWolf
03-01-07, 03:37 AM
Yes congrats but...is that the Stealth-O-Meter I see in your screenshots!? :nope:
Gotta get rid of that!

AndyW
03-01-07, 05:27 AM
1st try:

fired the full salvo at midsection of BB. all three hit. ship not immediately sunk. stupidly i watched the torpedo impact before diving. DDs pinged me (first time i heard these awful pinging sounds...). depth charge, i was hit. heavy flooding, critical flooding. then :dead:


Being a firm believer in the "Dead-if-Dead" paradigma in simplaying, I say congrats Herr Kaleun, a post mortem Ritterkreuz to you and a extra pension to your widow at home. A lousy IIB versus a BB was definately worth the sacrify for the fatherland. :up:

Cheers,
AndyW

mariuszj1939
03-01-07, 05:59 AM
good screenshots

I met foll. task force ystd evening (16 July 1941 - near Scapa Flow)
two Nelsons and three Fiji's + 3 DD's

four torpedos impacts - the same time
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/2595/2nelson4inpacthh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

one of them sunk - bunker ammu hit
second needed one more stern torpedo

STEED
03-01-07, 09:14 AM
Stock SH3 is a piece of cake try GWX. :dead: :arrgh!: ;)


Anyway Well done.

Spray
03-01-07, 09:15 AM
Ok this can be taken two ways extreme good luck or really really bad luck but ive made it up to September 1941 and haven't met one BB or TF yet. Im using the GWX mod are there any dates I should look out for where there will be lcongregations of these lumbering beasts.

danurve
03-01-07, 09:57 AM
While I have racked up good tonnage and found clever ways to axe a few DD's I have yet to encounter a task force, much less even a battleship. I'd settle for a honkin cruiser or two in a convoy. My last convoy had three armed troop transports, but they were centered so I took out two C2's and a merchant instead. When I do find a taskforce I'll probably crap myself.
Then again U-Boats were all about sinking cargo ships.

messenger3
03-01-07, 02:01 PM
Ok this can be taken two ways extreme good luck or really really bad luck but ive made it up to September 1941 and haven't met one BB or TF yet. Im using the GWX mod are there any dates I should look out for where there will be lcongregations of these lumbering beasts.

:-? Well i have GWX 1.2 and VIIC,84% realism,shame me iam using WO for the math,:lol: .i use commander for lunching the game,it gives me date like may 1940 but in the game i had april 40 so a bit of bug here but now to your question,i guess its bit too late for u but the invasion of Norway is really cool,i went close there and on the way there were at least 5 task forces, i met 2 Nelsons but had only one torp loaded so i shot it 2000 meters from the ship,aiming for ammo bunker,hit but not good enough,they jetted away, leaving 3 dds on my ass.When i escaped in 200 m deep and was heading to Narwik to help my guys i came across huge task force with Carrier in it...:o + cruiser and 6 dd,they were going fast so i had to risk it to get into possition on time,surfaced and went 16 kt,then dived to periscope depth and continue full on,got about 1000-850 meters from the beast and fired all my torps 4,set on impact,4m, and shot one by one because the bastard usually avoid very fast and change speed and direction...bad luck for me only one hit,even it went into the fuel tank the bastard went on with no slowing only badly tilted,i escaped in deep waters again to meet him again on my way to homebase with my last torp i managed to shoot at him again,he had no visible damage from last encouter no tilt,i guess they fixed it,i hit it but they all disappeared in darkness,i got home with 3 dead sailors from surprised air raid on us.....:nope:
For your question read GWX manual there are scripted war operations usually with many action and ships....

IceGrog
03-01-07, 03:06 PM
I’m a little envious.
To get a battleship in a career, now you can take a rest and reap the awards.

romelus
03-01-07, 04:47 PM
wow sounds like i was lucky (or unlucky, per my widow) to run into these BBs. i will progress into more realistic simming, like no reloads. this is my first career, and my first time playing any sub sim, so i'm using this career for learning. haven't even encountered a real convoy yet, except the one in the tutorial :oops:

i would like to use GWX after this career but my comp is extremely laggy with even vanilla. sometimes it takes half a second to move the cursor. as you can guess, when this happens it takes eons to flip through identification manual and set torpedo options. i've been told that GWX is even more demanding on the system, so i might need to wait for a new puter before being able to play it. :damn:

danurve
03-01-07, 06:24 PM
..

i would like to use GWX after this career but my comp is extremely laggy with even vanilla. sometimes it takes half a second to move the cursor. as you can guess, when this happens it takes eons to flip through identification manual and set torpedo options. i've been told that GWX is even more demanding on the system, so i might need to wait for a new puter before being able to play it. :damn:

Try disabling the event cam if you haven't already.
I don't miss it at all. When I was testing out different mods getting rid of that helped out alot.

romelus
03-01-07, 10:39 PM
Try disabling the event cam if you haven't already.
I don't miss it at all. When I was testing out different mods getting rid of that helped out alot.

the thing is, it doesn't turn laggy when the event cam comes on. it is randomly laggy even without any event. rough seas makes it worse. i think it has something to do with water transparency

i'll try a patrol without the event cam. see if it helps

NipplesTheCat
03-02-07, 12:39 AM
What are your system specs?

romelus
03-02-07, 02:33 AM
What are your system specs?

athlon xp1800, 1.5 gb ram, geforce ti4200 64 mb

both processor and video card are weak :dead:

Spray
03-02-07, 11:42 AM
I think ive still got the 1942 attacks on the Tirpitz to go... Ill see what I can do about the D-Day landings even through all the heavy escorts.