Is music dead?

[Camaero]

What do you all think, will there ever be anything like the Beatles, or Elvis again? Like the music or not, that stuff shook up the world. Will there ever be a band that rocks such a massive amount of people like that again?

With most of the new stuff I have heard lately, I think the future looks bleak!

[CCIP]

:roll:

Come ooooon, this is such an immature view!

Something as subjective as stylistic liking is just... yea.

I mean I used to have the same view a few years ago, but frankly as of lately 90% of my listening repertoire has been post-1990s. And noone can accuse me of having a narrow, poorly-developed or badly-informed set of music tastes.

I'll say this: MASS music has pretty much always been dead. Beneath it lies a dynamic and developing field of art that, with some patience and an open mind is absolutely incredible and more varied than even the finest "top-rated" hits could ever scratch.

[Camaero]

I realize that there must be tons of good songs out there coming out every day. Obviously every has different tastes as well.

But still, there was something about a select few groups that everyone seemed to like. Just look at the Beatles and the Stones for instance.

[CCIP]

Well I'll give in on one point: back in the late 60's, there was a period when popular (in the best sense of the word) music was ahead of business and broke pretty much out of control for a while. Unfortunately since then business has got it back under control or underground.

Though I'm far from a child of the 60's-70's, I was raised on that music and totally agree that that period of music was :rock:

But it was probably the only period in history when popular music really broached the surface and ruled the seas for a while so to speak.

[Torplexed]

Music may be alive but rock is pretty much dead. In my humble little opinion, the remains of rock has come down to a bunch of guys with mullet cuts playing their air guitars to old Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple riffs. Music continues to evolve tho.

[joea]

Music may be alive but rock is pretty much dead. In my humble little opinion, the remains of rock has come down to a bunch of guys with mullet cuts playing their air guitars to old Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple riffs. Music continues to evolve tho.

What is rock though?:know:

[ReallyDedPoet]

I don't think music will ever die, it is constantly changing. Bands\musicians today, different than in the past have to be that much better though to survive. Especially in the " American Idol " and " You Tube\ My Space " age, anybody can be a star, say for a few hours anyway.

Also, people have such short attention spans and they are so fickle that you can be easily forgotten and lost in this sea of mediocre talent.

[Boris]

I guess music might be dead for an individual... but music will never die. New generations will always be making it and listening to it.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

I have to agree that much of today's music is a soundalike of a soundalike. It all sounds the same to me, but then again I have a very unusual taste. I wouldnt be able to tell Muse from the Arctic Monkeys, but I can tell a Moog synthesiser over a Fairlight. :rotfl:

[STEED]

A lot of today's music is a mass of noise and the same tune repeating itself over and over again, it's bloody awful the music today. As a middle age fart I can say this and be :smug: about it. In fact very :smug: :smug: about it, as for you young folk in 10 or 20 years you will be like me.

PS: That scared the pants off you. :eek:

PPS: Give me classical music any day. :cool: :smug: :|\\

[The Munster]

Good Music withstands the test of time. I remember going to see Santana at the Royal Albert Hall in 1980. 27 years later, they are still going :D
A compere at a Glen Miller tribute Concert stated that his Music will always be around and enjoyed .. why ?, because it is good. Can't be put any simpler than that ?!

[JSLTIGER]

A lot of today's music is a mass of noise and the same tune repeating itself over and over again, it's bloody awful the music today. As a middle age fart I can say this and be :smug: about it. In fact very :smug: :smug: about it, as for you young folk in 10 or 20 years you will be like me.

PS: That scared the pants off you. :eek:

PPS: Give me classical music any day. :cool: :smug: :|\\

There are very few good pieces of music today...the vast majority of my iTunes library comes from 1950's-1980's. There are a few things that are more up to date, but these tend to be the exception rather than the rule, and I'm only 20, definitely not middle aged.

[The Noob]

My Opinion about music:

60's=Ok
70's=Not too bad
80's=Awsome
90's=Sucked

[Skybird]

The fault does not lie in music itself, but the total commercialization of it. The massive falls and drops in prices you have to pay for classical music have made master recordings being offered in every supermarket, and thus being used at every most profane opportunity. I may sound arrogant, but I say that quality should not be available to every Peter and Paul who is not competent to appreciate it, or is too dumb to see the difference between quality and Kitsch. Precious is what is not only good in itself, but also is rare. The special value of such music was sacrificed for the quick Dollar/Mark/Euro. Today it gets trivialized even more, by being abused and perverted by rappers, wannabe-famous-singers who can't sing at all, and noise makers of all kind. But let'S not forget, nevertheless, that low budget labels like Naxos also helped to give young talents a chance who would have had no chance at all to brake into the established monopoles and privileges of established musicians and singers. Not always means "cheap" the same like "evil".

In the popular music departement, on the other hand, the search for most lucrative marketing and fastest maximum profit led to modern music being composed in a way that it can easily transported into cell-phone jingles, is easy to be created, does not need knowledge and talent, not to mention carftsmanship. The mere omnipresent availability of music at most affordable prices led to the shrinking of music in diversity, quality, and ironically produces less and lesser income per publication, so that in the future even less oney is available to pay for quality compositions or recordings. The method that produces the most pürofit in the shortest time is what decides how music is being constructed today, and that is the reason why mainstream becomes less and lesser diverse and precious. This is true both for the classical field (my dad was playing in the German Symphony Orchstra, which is an international grade A orchestra which did a lot of recordings, and he can sing a song of this misery, really), and music in the field of pop/rock/"entertainment". My father also was angry, like many colleagues, at the incompetent proletarian audience in Berlin. They always applaud, and always shout Bravo, no matter if the performance was good or not so good on that evening. It does not matter, and Peter and Paul cannot differ betweena good and a bad concert anyway, but if Peter and Pauls sit in the berlin Philharmonie, than it mujst be sopmething special - just for them two, because they took the honour to go there, and so they shout and applaud no matter what was going, because the evening is special, not because of the musical performance - but because of Peter and Paul. This simply means that the possible good performances of the orchestra becomes unimportant, and appreciation is worth nothing anymore. It must not be deserved anymore. Many classical artists, socalled great names, are around who take maximum benefit of this bad habit, and the medias help them to establish this lack of standards as good as they can. Simply because of money. That has not much to do with arts anymore.

TV casting shows just help to increase the trend towards lacking style, quality, and help to sharp a uniform music indeed which is increasingly meaningless, useless, lacking "musicality" and individual competence of the "artist".

But there are always some exceptions from the rule, and they still keep appearing at times, although at an decreasing frequency. I find contemporary mainstream music and the typical radio "Gedudel" disgusting, I almost never run radio these days, on the other hand in recent years there were bands and artists like for example Dido, Kathie Melua or The Corrs, all of which hardly can be accused of lacking musicality and lacking musical craftsmanship. So while the general situation is rapidly detoriating, their nevertheless are exceptions to by found that are running against the trend.

[Torplexed]

Skybird...I see you haven't lost your gift for generating dense blocks of verbiosity. :cool: Now, if I can just bring myself and my short attention span to read it.

[STEED]

My Opinion about music:

60's=Ok
70's=Not too bad
80's=Awsome
90's=Sucked

Just when I got the Noob figured out he pops in and dose that. :damn:

Back to square one on the drawing board. :roll:

[ReallyDedPoet]

[/quote]
There are very few good pieces of music today...the vast majority of my iTunes library comes from 1950's-1980's. There are a few things that are more up to date, but these tend to be the exception rather than the rule, and I'm only 20, definitely not middle aged.[/quote]

There is just so many types of music today, and alot of it is just not that good, that the quality of music has to be much greater than what it once was just to be noticed.

[Camaero]

For me it's:
40s -Good
50s -Good
60s -Awesome
70s -Awesome
80s -Good
90s -ugh...
00s -!?!?!?!

:arrgh!:

[CCIP]

For me it's generally

40s - don't really get it (too distant for me)
50s - don't really get it
60s - starting to get awesome
70s - goes from awesome to suck
80s - awesome in limited amounts
90s - awesome mostly non-mainstream
00s - awesome mostly non-mainstream

[Gizzmoe]

I´m 36 now and most of the music I listen to is 15+ years old. The main reason why I don´t have many recent CD´s is because I´m simply not up-to-date, I don´t know what good bands are out there.

Some of the more recent things (less than 10 years old) I listen to:

Alanis Morissette
System Of A Down
Björk
Belle and Sebastian
Cake
Beck
Cypress Hill
Faithless
Fatboy Slim
Gorillaz
Jamiroquai
Portishead

No, music is most definitely not dead.

[The Munster]

Skybird...I see you haven't lost your gift for generating dense blocks of verbiosity. :cool: Now, if I can just bring myself and my short attention span to read it.


A typical Male attention span on one particular thing is 7 minutes .. so .. and no offence, Skybird .. I formulated that your 'article' would take longer than that [for me] to read; halfway thru and eyes would glaze over and I'd start thinking what breakfast cereal to have in the morning .. Porridge or Cornflakes :rotfl: !

[Sailor Steve]

27 years later, they are still going :D
27?? Try 38. I bought Santana's first album in 1969!

I put down that today's music stinks, but that's only because I'm an old fart, still stuck in the '60s.:dead:

One of the guys I still play with is a big fan of Counting Crows, Chili Peppers and Tod Snyder. I'm still a Beatles/Stones/Airplane guy.

[joea]

There's good music in every epoch, fantastic even. Also crud that is forgotten by "old farts" (good old days syndrome) that dominates every time.

[Sailor Steve]

There's good music in every epoch, fantastic even. Also crud that is forgotten by "old farts" (good old days syndrome) that dominates every time.
Oh, no, not me. Every time I someone holds up an example of how awful music is these days, I remember that my era had our "Brittneys" too.:dead: Even some of the stuff I liked is, in retrospect, pretty awful.

[Dan D]

One of my favourite songs is "Peggy sues" by Buddy Holly & The Crickets. "Oho", "ah", "eh", uhu".
Here we go with ze song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoPBvbjVC4U

[Camaero]

Bird bird bird, well the bird is the word!:doh:

[Skybird]

Hehe, one could say that the ruining of the classics market really pissed me. Not that I only listen to classical music, it makes for maybe 35-50% of the music I listen to over the week. But nowhere the ruining and/or abusing of the supportive business structures for music is more obvious than here. -

Some days ago I heared a wonderful piece by Prokofiev - being raped and mutilated by some hip hop a$$hole knowing sh!t about music, but thinking that rythmic orgasmic panting and a brutal beat could compensate for having no voice to sing with - nevertheless perverting existing arts and selling that as "music". :down: Zum Kotzen, kübelweise.

[Sulikate]

Music is not dead, at least to me. I'm a big System of a Down fan:arrgh!:

[SUBMAN1]

I can't vote on this thread for one reason - there is a ton of good music out there but the problem is, it has no marketing. The marketing managed music that is being shoved down your throat however all sucks. Its cookie cutter music - this made money before, so we will make something like it to sell a bunch more type music.

You can only find good music on the internet from which you can purchase those CD's. A good place to start is www.di.fm (http://www.di.fm)

You can find every gener of music at di - from new age to dance to trance to jazz to classical, whatever you want. You can then click the links and it will try and track down the CD for you.

-S

[The Noob]

Just when I got the Noob figured out he pops in and dose that. :damn:

Back to square one on the drawing board. :roll:
hehehehe :D

[StdDev]

Music appreciation is rather subjective!
I happen to like Del McCoury, although some think that his voice is a bit harsh ( he sounds a lot like Pat Butram from Green Acres), yet I find his music inspired! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW-w0KgE-8s&mode=related&search=

Bluegrass in general is not heavily marketed yet there is some awesome tallent in a lot of these songs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f_QySKfsgI&mode=related&search=
Yet there are a few BG songs that made it to the "mainstream" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdzThgveHwQ
and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrlqQ1_vZVE&mode=related&search=

Some of the early Bluegrass stuff (ie Bill Monroe stuff) the vocals are plain hard to listen to.. yet the talent exhibited in the instrument playing makes it all worth while.

The only music that I catagorically detest is RAP (actually spelled with a silent "C" in front)

So.. in answer to the poll question.. Yup.. there is still some good music commin out.. but that is highly subjective.

[ASWnut101]

I like:

1. Mudvayne
2. Godsmack
3. Two of Jimmy Hendrix's songs (Voodo Child and All Along the Watchtower)
4. Metallica
5. Static-X
6. This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23eZMdixAuk) song (Judith) by A Perfect Circle. It's actually a religious "nu-rock" group.

[Dan D]

I thought it was a rethorical question.

Johnny Cash would have turned 75 yesterday. He will be missed.

DJ Schmolli vs. Johnny Cash and his All Star Band ( Johnny Cash (voice), Beasty Boys (Bass "Sabotage"), Led Zepellin (drums),The Beatles (lead guitar), Ted Nugent (guitar):
-God's gonna cut you down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edjIaE096Lc

Johnny Cash -God's gonna cut you down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrZZ-MxIbeA