Japanese Hunting License

[hyperion2206]

Look what I've found:o:

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/3820/wwiihuntingpu4.jpg


And we've been discussing if the term "Jap" should be used.:rotfl:

[Boris]

:o That's some harsh attitudes back then.

[Drokkon]

He was in the marines and had passed his markmanship on his weapon. He sure wasn't going deer hunting in the west pacific. In times of war they dehumanize the enemy.

[flintlock]

And we've been discussing if the term "Jap" should be used.
Harsh perhaps when taken out of context. Though keep in mind we're no longer at war with the Japanese.

[hyperion2206]

And we've been discussing if the term "Jap" should be used. Harsh perhaps when taken out of context. Though keep in mind we're no longer at war with the Japanese.

Really? Since when?:p

[flintlock]

When the term gets flung around yet again, I though it might be prudent to remind some people.

[hyperion2206]

When the term gets flung around yeat again, I though it might be prudent to remind some people.

This smiley":rotfl:" indicated that I was making fun of that dreadful discussion. But I admit that it is hard to know if somebody's making fun if you don't see and hear him.

[Safe-Keeper]

Though keep in mind we're no longer at war with the Japanese.American CEOs beg to differ;).

[hyperion2206]

The difference between '45 and Now:p:

1945- We called the enemy things like "Krauts" and "Japs" because we didn't like them.
Now- We call the enemy things like "opposing forces" and "aggressors" so we won't offend them

taken from that site: http://www.strategypage.com/humor/articles/thennow.asp

[Captain_Jack]

The difference between '45 and Now:p:

1945- We called the enemy things like "Krauts" and "Japs" because we didn't like them.
Now- We call the enemy things like "opposing forces" and "aggressors" so we won't offend them

taken from that site: http://www.strategypage.com/humor/articles/thennow.asp

Yes...lets not offend the enemy...or hurt public opinion...

[Ducimus]

Look what I've found:o:

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/3820/wwiihuntingpu4.jpg


And we've been discussing if the term "Jap" should be used.:rotfl:

LOL that's awesome. I see good/awesome humor goes waaay back in history and tradition. I myself got a similar certificate from the service, but in an entirely different context.


The difference between '45 and Now:p:

1945- We called the enemy things like "Krauts" and "Japs" because we didn't like them.
Now- We call the enemy things like "opposing forces" and "aggressors" so we won't offend them

taken from that site: http://www.strategypage.com/humor/articles/thennow.asp


Oh thats a load of garbage. Opposing forces or aggressors is used often in terms of an excercise - where somebody plays the badguy so the people in training.. you know.. have some training. Last i was in, colorful language iwas very much the norm, and deragtory terms were in no short supply :88)

[THE_MASK]

Well the japanese have there whaling license.

[Captain_Jack]

The Japanese would have their "Commit as many War Crimes as Possible" License

[THE_MASK]

The Japanese would have their "Commit as many War Crimes as Possible" License

I agree but both sides commited war crimes .

[hyperion2206]

The Japanese would have their "Commit as many War Crimes as Possible" License
I agree but both sides commited war crimes .
Not such a discussion again!:p:arrgh!: Perhaps it was a mistake to post that image.:dead:

[THE_MASK]

The Japanese would have their "Commit as many War Crimes as Possible" License
I agree but both sides commited war crimes .
Not such a discussion again!:p:arrgh!: Perhaps it was a mistake to post that image.:dead:

:yep:

[Captain_Jack]

The Japanese would have their "Commit as many War Crimes as Possible" License

I agree but both sides commited war crimes .


Yes, but there is no comparison to the widespread crimes committed by the Japanese Military.

A good book on the subject is The knights of Bushido

[hyperion2206]

Oh Oh, this is going to get ugly. *runs for cover *:p:lol::rotfl:

[Morts]

this is gonna be very ugly

EVERYONE.....TAKE COVER:rotfl:

[HEMISENT]

Now Now children, let's take extra special care not to offend anyone. The enemy, as misguided as they may be are still people with feelings and the need for a little hug now and then. How about some group therapy for the poor souls.

OH GEEZ gimme a break. The political correctness Nazi's are everywhere as I recently learned at W*W. Let's not offend anyone even tho they'd be only most happy to slaughter us on a wholesale basis.

Just my two cents guys.

Semper Fi!

[Ducimus]

Problem is, everyone has a poltical agenda. :roll: So the japs played head hockey with their swords against american pow's and played doctor with some experiemets that make auswich look tame by comparison. Theres always somebody who's going to point that out to make us feel warm and fuzzy about the american side of things. Then theres always going to be somebody who's doing the instyle thing of "hate all that is american", and quick to point out that they think we're no better.

Its all a bunch of poltical bull****. People, ... just shut up and play the damn game already! (err when its released that is :roll:) Or don't play Sh4 and stay in sh3. either way, Just play the damn game and stop digging for something that justfiies your personal opinions for those pocket agendas.

My 2 cents.

[THE_MASK]

The simple solution to this is that when SH4 comes out , multiplayer will be fun .

[Captain_Jack]

. :roll: So the japs played head hockey with their swords against american pow's

:huh:

[Iron Budokan]

Sadly, dehumanization doesn't take place only during war....

[Ducimus]

hey, i tell it like it is.. its like my trademark :D

edit:
. :roll: So the japs played head hockey with their swords against american pow's

:huh:

It's true. I think it was the batan death march if i remember correctly. From accounts ive read, some of Japanese officers thought it was a great opportunity to bush up on their sword stroke.

[Aimbot]

The Japanese would have their "Commit as many War Crimes as Possible" License
I agree but both sides commited war crimes .

Yes, but there is no comparison to the widespread crimes committed by the Japanese Military.

A good book on the subject is The knights of Bushido
Well, we did manage to kill more than half their population. Our incindiary bombs were so nasty that the Japanese thought the nuclear bombs weren't that impresive. That seems pretty harsh to me. And if you want to talk about how the Japanese treated American POWs, well, the largest POW camp in Japan was at... Nagasaki. Oops.




It's true. I think it was the batan death march if i remember correctly. From accounts ive read, some of Japanese officers thought it was a great opportunity to bush up on their sword stroke.
It was common for a Japanese soldier to execute prisoners. In fact, at one point in Manchuria it was part of the training regimen. Hell, In Chichi Jima there was cannibalism practiced. Cultural differences. The Japanese military taught that surrender was the worst a soldier could suffer, and that those who lowered themselves to it were deserving of ridicule and death. This even applied to civilians and capture. On Saipan hundreds of Japanese civilians committed mass suicide by jumping off a cliff out of fear of rape and brutalization by shocked American soldiers. My Grandfather was a medic stationed in Korea and when he was treating Japanese POWs (after learning some rudimentary Japanese) he was told constantly that they were shocked to be treated so well. The Japanese people thought war was about death. I guess they never got the note that in "civilized" war you can only kill in certain situations, and only if you win the war.

Japan had Manchuria, America had Japan, France had France, Churchill ordered Dresden, Germany had nearly as many atrocities as Russia. The only major Nation in the war that didn't commit some nasty war crimes was Italy, and it probably had more to do with ineptitude than anything else.

The venom behind the term "Jap" is gone. Our countries have been on good terms for too long for it to mean what it once did. I didn't even know it was derogatory until I started posting at the Ubi forums.

[Morts]

the largest POW camp in Japan was at... Nagasaki. Oops.



:o i dont think "Oops" covers it:o

[zaza]

Every time I read this kind of issue,
I feel impatient of my bad english skill.
I can't tell in enlgish what I thinking.....:nope:




Nows days almost Japanese dosen't know the war.
And most young people dosen't matter what was happen about
60 years ago.
Even Dec 8th, most TV dose not saying Perl harbor day.
And war survivors dose not want say what was happen.
I think ,they thought it was shame.

I don't know what was happen at war time,
because I born after the war.I can't judge them.
Some people did real bad thing, some others had to do even they know
it was bad thing at that time.
I think same thing about POW.

I also think it could be say the same thing about every nations fought the war.


I am so sorry about my bad english....

[THE_MASK]

Very good english:yep:

[Drokkon]

Zaza

It's dangerous to forget the past. It also should not be used to throw into peoples faces on what their country did in the past. It should be used so the types of people who encouraged this behavior never get power again. In the United States we nearly let it happen after WWII with witch hunters like Joe McCarthy. We finally seen through his antics, but not before he had bullied and ruined many careers of people who feared him.

To forget history is to repeat it.

[Morts]

To forget history is to repeat it.
and i dont think we want to do that :up:

[Immacolata]

And we've been discussing if the term "Jap" should be used. Harsh perhaps when taken out of context. Though keep in mind we're no longer at war with the Japanese.

Really? Since when?:p

One born every minute. Idiot, that is.

Zaza, you just ran into typical board cockiness. Some people have parochial minds and they believe its just them and their two board buddies that read their bigotist replies. They do not realize that the internet is a public place where everyone from everywhere has acces to.

[hyperion2206]

And we've been discussing if the term "Jap" should be used. Harsh perhaps when taken out of context. Though keep in mind we're no longer at war with the Japanese.
Really? Since when?:p
One born every minute. Idiot, that is.

Zaza, you just ran into typical board cockiness. Some people have parochial minds and they believe its just them and their two board buddies that read their bigotist replies. They do not realize that the internet is a public place where everyone from everywhere has acces to.

Just to make it perfectly clear: Did you just call either flintlock or me an idiot?

[Hartmann]

it becomes a non sense of topic and political thread far away of the Sh4 interest :hmm:
war is terrible and every country did Atrocities about this.

perhaps could be better close this discussion :nope:

[flintlock]

I also think it could be say the same thing about every nations fought the war. Absolutely correct.

I can appreciate how frustrating it is to try an articulate passionate and emotional feelings in a language that is not your native tongue. That said, your English is quite good, zaza -- kudos!

[Aimbot]

Every time I read this kind of issue,
I feel impatient of my bad english skill.
I can't tell in enlgish what I thinking.....:nope:




Nows days almost Japanese dosen't know the war.
And most young people dosen't matter what was happen about
60 years ago.
Even Dec 8th, most TV dose not saying Perl harbor day.
And war survivors dose not want say what was happen.
I think ,they thought it was shame.

I don't know what was happen at war time,
because I born after the war.I can't judge them.
Some people did real bad thing, some others had to do even they know
it was bad thing at that time.
I think same thing about POW.

I also think it could be say the same thing about every nations fought the war.


I am so sorry about my bad english.... I'm taking Japanese, And I wish I could write in Japanese as well as you do in English. Kanji is evil.

When I told my Grandfather I was taking Japanese he instantly said: "Banjo wa doko desu ka"

Honestly I'm amazed that Japan and America have relations a good as we do now. I desperately want to visit Japan, particularly for the history. I wouldn't say no to the food either. :p

[Takeda Shingen]

it becomes a non sense of topic and political thread far away of the Sh4 interest :hmm:
war is terrible and every country did Atrocities about this.

perhaps could be better close this discussion :nope:

Sounds good to me. This thread has wandered too far, and for too long. Time for the seacocks to open.