what's wrong with this ship?

[Kpt. Kozloff]

There i was, sailing west off Scapa when i got a contact. The weather was great so i thought "i'll shell it" and i had plenty of those. I got closer to get a better shot and started shooting. After seven/eight rounds my gunners stopped. Ship was still afloat but lost as a contact!!! I torpedoed it and it sunk but didn't appear in the log and there was no "She's going down" or hurray's.
O.k., so i need a liitle bit of explanation. Maybe i don't know something i should about this weird ship's behaviour?
Mind that i wasn't saving the game or anything like that... and Bernard definitely stayed in the Barracks.;)

See that that yellow DG icon is missing...
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2564/sh3img2322007191535468db6.png (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/)
Thanks for the replies.

[AJ!]

Theres only one logical explanation for this....... its a ghost ship :rotfl:

[Rykaird]

Theres only one logical explanation for this....... its a ghost ship :rotfl:

The whale factory ship SS Leviathan, traveling in convoy in the Irish Sea, was attacked by the notorious U-Boat wolfpack in November, 1939. Their sister ship, SS Connover, torpedoed and on fire, was sinking quickly into the icy seas. To save their own cowardly lives, the captain and crew of Leviathan refused to take on the stricken crew of the Connover and sailed directly past the drowning, dying men.

Clinging to a floating piece of the wreckage, mortally wounded, his blood and life draining slowly into the uncaring seas, the captain of the Connover, with his last breath, cursed the Leviathan and her crew to sail the Irish Sea for an eternity of cold, and darkness, and misery.

The SS Leviathan never returned to port.

[Kpt. Kozloff]

Theres only one logical explanation for this....... its a ghost ship :rotfl:

The whale factory ship SS Leviathan, traveling in convoy in the Irish Sea, was attacked by the notorious U-Boat wolfpack in November, 1939. Their sister ship, SS Connover, torpedoed and on fire, was sinking quickly into the icy seas. To save their own cowardly lives, the captain and crew of Leviathan refused to take on the stricken crew of the Connover and sailed directly past the drowning, dying men.

Clinging to a floating piece of the wreckage, mortally wounded, his blood and life draining slowly into the uncaring seas, the captain of the Connover, with his last breath, cursed the Leviathan and her crew to sail the Irish Sea for an eternity of cold, and darkness, and misery.

The SS Leviathan never returned to port.

Nice story, good read:up: , not the answer i hoped for.:cry: :damn:

[EmeAzul]

Kpt. Kozloff, this happened to me with this same ship (Proteus Collier) on the East coast of England (close to Hull) in June/July 1940. I was stalking it for a long time, waiting for it to get a bit closer (she was going at only 4 knots), when at about 3,500 M she was blown out of the water. The only explanation I could come up with was that the Luftwaffe attacked it, because I heard detonations going off and she was immediately on fire in 3 different places. If it was the Luftwaffe, they were certainly accurate with their bombs. This of course upset me, since that was a fair amount of tonnage (10,800 the way I set it up) that could have been mine. Cheers EmeAzul

[Kpt. Kozloff]

Kpt. Kozloff, this happened to me with this same ship (Proteus Collier) on the East coast of England (close to Hull) in June/July 1940. I was stalking it for a long time, waiting for it to get a bit closer (she was going at only 4 knots), when at about 3,500 M she was blown out of the water. The only explanation I could come up with was that the Luftwaffe attacked it, because I heard detonations going off and she was immediately on fire in 3 different places. If it was the Luftwaffe, they were certainly accurate with their bombs. This of course upset me, since that was a fair amount of tonnage (10,800 the way I set it up) that could have been mine. Cheers EmeAzul

Thanks for the reply but i'm sure it wasn't Luftwaffe. Other U-boat neither, 'cause immediately after sending her a fish i went to external view to check her hull damage. Wanted to make sure... only one big hole from my torp. :damn:

[AG124]

Kpt. Kozloff, this happened to me with this same ship (Proteus Collier)

Actually, the ship in the first post is a Converted Whale Factory Ship, not a Proteus Collier.:know: I built both of those ships, although I have never heard of any sinking problems with the factory ship before.

[Gildor]

Mines?

[High Voltage]

Mines?
No, not "Yours", Popeye...OURS...

;)

[Kpt. Kozloff]

Mines?
No, not "Yours", Popeye...OURS...

;)


There were no mysterious explosions and i haven't seen any mines either.
Ohhh... this is getting hopeless... :damn: :damn: :damn:

[Gezoes]

Hmm... maybe a DD that fired on you... hit the freigther... etc...

Can't be the weather...

How far away were you... maybe the game's spawning engine is to blame...

[Kpt. Kozloff]

Hmm... maybe a DD that fired on you... hit the freigther... etc...

Can't be the weather...

How far away were you... maybe the game's spawning engine is to blame...

It's got to be... I can't seem to find anything else either.

Thank's for the replies mateys.

[Foghladh_mhara]

Theres only one logical explanation for this....... its a ghost ship :rotfl:

The whale factory ship SS Leviathan, traveling in convoy in the Irish Sea, was attacked by the notorious U-Boat wolfpack in November, 1939. Their sister ship, SS Connover, torpedoed and on fire, was sinking quickly into the icy seas. To save their own cowardly lives, the captain and crew of Leviathan refused to take on the stricken crew of the Connover and sailed directly past the drowning, dying men.

Clinging to a floating piece of the wreckage, mortally wounded, his blood and life draining slowly into the uncaring seas, the captain of the Connover, with his last breath, cursed the Leviathan and her crew to sail the Irish Sea for an eternity of cold, and darkness, and misery.

The SS Leviathan never returned to port.
Heres a thought, maybe she sank?

[Morts]

Theres only one logical explanation for this....... its a ghost ship :rotfl:

The whale factory ship SS Leviathan, traveling in convoy in the Irish Sea, was attacked by the notorious U-Boat wolfpack in November, 1939. Their sister ship, SS Connover, torpedoed and on fire, was sinking quickly into the icy seas. To save their own cowardly lives, the captain and crew of Leviathan refused to take on the stricken crew of the Connover and sailed directly past the drowning, dying men.

Clinging to a floating piece of the wreckage, mortally wounded, his blood and life draining slowly into the uncaring seas, the captain of the Connover, with his last breath, cursed the Leviathan and her crew to sail the Irish Sea for an eternity of cold, and darkness, and misery.

The SS Leviathan never returned to port.
Heres a thought, maybe she sank?

:o :o oh god you have got to be the new sherlock holmes
nice observation!!
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
i couldn stop myself :rotfl:

[EmeAzul]

AG124, sorry for the mis-identification of your Converted Whale Factory. However, in my case it was definitely the Proteus Collier. And I also remembered an important fact that I left out of my original story (brain leakage, I guess). After hearing the detonations and seeing the fires via the periscope, I went to the NavMap quickly and saw a single blue-colored plane icon in the immediate area of the stricken ship (I use the stock colored icons for planes and ships, Blue for friend, Red for Enemy and Green for Neutral). The plane was gone fairly soon thereafter before I had a chance to further identify it. So in my particular example it must have been the Luftwaffe that attacked the ship.

By the way, when I've had chances in ealier patrols to torpedo the Collier, the explosions and breakup of the ship have been pretty spectacular. Of course, this is before the GWX Damage Model is applied, so I'm hoping we don't lose all of the great fireworks once it is DM'd by the GWX team. Thanks for all your great work in developing new Merchants for the game. The new Naval units are interesting and beautiful in the Museum, but I never see them in the game, whereas I come accross your terrific Merchant ships all the time. Cheers EmeAzul

[AG124]

By the way, when I've had chances in ealier patrols to torpedo the Collier, the explosions and breakup of the ship have been pretty spectacular. Of course, this is before the GWX Damage Model is applied, so I'm hoping we don't lose all of the great fireworks once it is DM'd by the GWX team.

I don't know how Von Helsching would zone this ship if we ever added it to GWX, but I imagine she would sink in interesting ways. However, I doubt she would explode quite as much then, as a collier shouldn't be carrying an explosive cargo very often.:o

BTW - When I released this ship, I gave her the wrong tonnage - the ~19,000 is the full displacement, because I didn't have the gross register tonnage with me at the time. However, I have since found it - it should actually be a little over 10,000 GRT instead. Although I don't think anyone will be rushing to lower it...:cool:

The plane was gone fairly soon thereafter before I had a chance to further identify it. So in my particular example it must have been the Luftwaffe that attacked the ship.

Yes, that sounds likely. But I am still concerned over the 'ghost' factory ship, as I don't know what happened there. But it seems to be a one-time error for now.

Thanks for all your great work in developing new Merchants for the game. The new Naval units are interesting and beautiful in the Museum, but I never see them in the game, whereas I come accross your terrific Merchant ships all the time.

Thank you.:sunny: Actually, I built two of the new capital ships with Ref myself - the Brooklyn class CL and the Condottieri V class CL (I kitbashed the models, and Ref made some new 3d additions, UV Mapped them, and armed them). There are a few Brooklyns in the campaign, but there aren't too many US capital ships anyway. You should see some Condottieris (and some of Ref's new Zara class CA) in the Med though. I guess you will eventually.:cool:

[Kpt. Kozloff]

Yes, that sounds likely. But I am still concerned over the 'ghost' factory ship, as I don't know what happened there. But it seems to be a one-time error for now.


AG124,
I recon it was the game's spawning engine... well that's the most likely of explanations for now.

P.s. Great job on the ship models. :up:

[Mush Martin]

Kpt. Kozloff, this happened to me with this same ship (Proteus Collier)
Actually, the ship in the first post is a Converted Whale Factory Ship, not a Proteus Collier.:know: I built both of those ships, although I have never heard of any sinking problems with the factory ship before.

Both Quite Lovely by the way:up:

[Deep6]

Maybe the sailors scuttled the ship? :smug: Everything else has been guessed.